7months later and still haven't cracked number 2's!!

[llynnnn]

we started potty training dd in january, she never has any wee accidents, but she still very rarely uses the potty/toilet for her poo's

he only way she will poo in the potty/toilet is if she has a totally nude bottom (no knickers or trousers). this is ok in the house as if I see the signs that she needs to go (she sits down and hides in the corner) i take them off her. everywhere else, or if i dont catch her in time she just uses the knickers like a nappy.

I can spend ALL day asking her if she needs to go and she always says no. we seem to have tried everything: ignoring the accidents, HUGE praise for doing it, sticker/choc rewards, special treats, getting cross with her etc etc but nothing seems to work.

Can anyone help me?? she will be 3 next week and is the only child in her nursery group that isnt potty trained, which the nursery staff kindly remind me off each week !!She totally understands what she should be doing and is very bright and articulate in every other area.

thanks in advance

one straight in the toilet. Yesssssss!!!

Fantastic news, Puppy!

Great news puppy, it is reasuring to see some of your dc are getting the idea. DD is still pooing in her nappies. I am going to try keeping her pant free in the house but very worried about her pooing in the house, luckily we have wooden floors!!!

Well, we've had a few poos in pants yesterday and the day before... so not all plain sailing I know!!! But she is trying so hard. Keeps getting caught up in playing a game with her big sis or dad and then before she knows it, she's pood in pants.

Ah well! Rome wasn't built in a day.

oh gawd Im so tired of cleaning up poo in everything but the loo. Im coming to join this very supportive thread.

I started a toilet training thread some 6 weeks ago and we had initial success with dd2 whos now just turned 3, she quite quickly became dry & took herself to the loo. She even took herself for poos too, but then she had a tummy upset and it all went pear shaped. She started saying she didn't want anyone to see her on the toilet and then it moved to going in her knickers

We've just spent 2 very frustrating weeks on holiday with friends and 2 other dc's, with many many wet gooey messes in swimming nappies.

We've done all much the same as others on this thread; sanctions for doing it in wrong places, treats for others who go in the toilet,(reverse psychology thing),staying quiet, reprimands, sticker charts for trying and doing them on the loo etc.

The biggest stress is that she needs to be clean for school nursery starting on the 15th and I just dont know how to tackle it. We've been telling her that if she continues like this she wont be able to go there, (where her sister currently is), as I dont think they will deal with the mess at all.

The strange thing is that she doesn't like weeing in nappies & asks to go when in them in the morning after waking, but quite happily poos in everything else!

Was just about to come on and post a similar thread and found this one.... good to know my dd isn't the only one. We too are about 3 weeks into potty training and having mostly success with pee - but no luck with pooh. DD will sit on potty for 20 mins or so sometimes while I read books, as she's told me a pooh is coming - but then she'll give up. She is just saving them up for when she has a nappy on which is only at her afternoon sleep and bedtime. Without fail, I have to go in to change her nappy just after we put her down. She must have some control if she's holding on to them... so any tips on getting them in the right place appreciated!!!!

Obviously I meant in my last post she keeps pooing in her pants, as there would not be much point otherwise!

Still no success, she waits untill DH and I leave the room or are dealing with DS or DD2 and then does a poo in her pants. She then claims she did it in the toilet and should get a sticker!!!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

It has been 3 weeks, she is back at playschool next week so fingers crossed they will know what to do.

I am SO glad there are other kids doing this! Having been potty training DS1 (2.10) for millennia a couple of months and NO poo in the toilet/potty at all, apart from by accident. I have been getting a bit cross, but that has just meant more weeing accidents as well . Fed up of poo. Fed up of pooey pants. He doesn't tell me he's done a poo, just goes off and hides somewhere!

I like DaddyJ's approach, so will be talking cheerfully and in great detail about pooing tomorrow . Wish us luck!

i was in the same boat - 7 mths into pt and almost no potty- poo.
today she pooed close enough to the potty for me to catch and reward..

she was a bit flustered but gladly accepted the dolly mixture.

tried 1) upped the fluids/ fibre
2) putting the poo from her knickers into the potty, then applauding
3) Going to the loo with her so she could see me do it.

good luck..i keep on reminding myself she will get it 100% eventually. hopefully next week - so tired of all the laundry generated (esp as have dropped night nappy cos she was just taking it off..ewwww)

realisitically, it's probably going to take longer than that...

hi all

i started this thread a while ago as dd just wasnt getting it and i was at my wits end!

but i can now report that SHE CAN DO IT!! it has clicked and (touchwood) she hasn't had any poo accidents for about 3 weeks now! its fantastic!!

I truly believe the thing that actually worked was ignoring it and not making any issue of it at all. beforehand i was constantly saying to her ' do you need a poo', 'remember to go to the toilet', 'poo goes on the toilet', 'no pooing in knickers' etc etc etc and then when she had an accident i would then ramble on saying how next time she must do it in the toilet etc etc!! and everyone that came round would tell her the exact same thing! she was getting it constantly and it was putting sooooo much pressure on her i think. I called the hv and she suggested not mentioning it at all, so i gave that a shot.

if i thought she was about to poo al i said was 'would you like to go to the toilet to poo' and if she said no i just left her (very very frustrating!!) when i was cleaning her up ALL i said was 'never mind we'll try again next time'

i know it sounds crazy and useless, but i believe it really did work. as soon as she had pooed we gave her so much praise and cuddles and now i feel (almost) 100% confident that she's not going to have an accident whereever we go.

i really feel for everyone going through this, i can honestly say that potty training is the most frustrating thing i've ever done!! cant wait until dd2 needs doing lol!!

Good luck!

Well here's my almost daily poo update.. One poo in the toilet yesterday, followed shortly after by a tiny bit in her pants... She is with childminder today, so fingers crossed...

Onwards and upwards!

I think I'll try your ignoring/chilling out method lynn, I'm boring MYSELF asking her about it all the time. Seems all I ever do is ask her if she needs a wee or poo. Time to see what happens left to her own devices...

lynnnn,

How long did it take from chilling out to getting results?

Hope we have some good news soon

Hello all

Another desperate mum here coming on to find out if anyone's in the same boat as us.... and lo and behold I find you all!

DD1 is 2 and a quarter. We started potty training at the end of June (on hols in a house with no carpets and a downstairs loo). We cracked wees straight away and I now can't remember the last time she had an accident. Poos on the other hand....

I see lots of others think their lo's can't manage to hold it in, but she definitely can (most of the time) because it's not that she has accidents, it's that she saves it for the nappy. Pretty much invariably, ten minutes after she goes down for her nap or to bed, a little face appears: "I'm done a poo". At nursery she just doesn't go at all.

We've had endless chats about it so she knows to shout "MUMMY I NEED A POO", she just never does (that's a lie - she did it once, we had fireworks and dancing girls). We've tried the bribery (she knows she can have a smoothie (favourite thing in the world) if she does a poo on the potty, but it's clearly not incentive enough), stickers worked with wees but clearly aren't exciting enough either.

She's watched mummy and daddy and knows that they do poos on the loo and the babies (DDs 2 and 3 (8 months)) do them in their nappies, and she says she's a big girl like Mummy. but then....

Basically I think she just doesn't want to. Llynnn - I've been ignoring it (you can't really do anything else because it's not as if she's doing anything wrong) and so she just keeps on doing it.

I've read everyone's posts and I realise that lots of people have been putting up with this for a lot longer than we have, but still, two months feels like a very long time!

Also, I don't get the whole "you mustn't make them think poo is disgusting" thing. I can be totally cool while wiping her bum or the floor or whatever, but then what do you do when she puts her hands in it - or tries to pick up one that some $^£&$)( dog owner has left outside the front door? You can't smile merrily and say "how lovely dear" then, or can you?

Sorry for the rant... I think I needed to vent!

Hi hrdc

If it's any hlp, DD1 was EXACTLY like yours (this was ten years ago btw!!) - she would poo, but only in a nappy. Never in pants though, so that was a bonus. It went on for a couple of months and then one day, we paid a visit to my mum's house and she was rooting through old toys and dressing up things and came across a very boring yellow potty.

She immediately did a poo in it!

No turning back from then on. We cracked it. And took the old potty home!!

yeah, i try to applaud the poo...but then i have to shush her hands away from it..

GNGNGNGN

so far today no poo...we're past the stage where it was possible to ignore, cos she points and says - 'Poo-Poo!' which i suppose i should be pleased about in terms of speech develpment!

Poo in pants, followed by poo in potty.

What a roller coaster we're on!!!

Have also realised, my little girl poos an AWFUL LOT!!!!

good Pppymonkey! I'd have been delighted with that.

today no poo at all. She is weeing with me out of the room though, which makes me think she's trying to poo as she doesn't normally have 'accidents'

arse.

today poo in bed - though i'll give her credit for not playing with it, and I'm sure she tried on the potty before bed time.

i have bought a box of all-bran. mere bran flakes aren't enough..

Ve hav Vays of Making you Poo!

hows it going everyone else?

I'm finding the posts from people whos dcs eventually cracked it comforting. No doubt you're all worrying about something else now!

right. Put DD to bed for nap time....how long before i smell poo?

I read her a story on the potty for 15 mins before hand to try to relax her into going, but no dice.

this is turnign into 'the bed poo diary'

This thread is the only thing keeping me sane. Knowing there are other pant pooers around and dd is not the only one helps. We had no accidents yesterday but that was because she did not do a poo but today two poo accidents and a wee accident, I took her out of napies 7 weeks ago!! and it is def getting worse.

Honest answer should I give up? she is 2 yrs 9 months so not very young.

The worse part is after all this I have to start with twin 2!!!!

ANY ADVICE PLEASE, I have tried ignoring it, praise when she wee's or tries to poo, getting very cross, flushing the poo down the toilet afterwards BUT NOTHING IS WORKING.

YIPEE! DD1 has done a massive poo on the potty!!! Our first poo anywhere apart from her pants in 4 weeks!!!!

We took dd2 out of nappies today which has not been very successful but obviously this spured dd1 on.

I am sure there be other poo accidents to come but it has given me a small amount of hope.

Totally sympathise with you ellagrace. I feel just like you at the mo. My ds3! is 3.6 years old and you would think being my third one I would have cracked it but no! He is a law to himself! Bless him. He is great with wee's but just not got poo business. Can't decided what he has a problem with but he goes and hides, even though he has just sat for 5 mins with me reading a story! Have tried everything - charts, bribes, staying calm but am now sick and tired of everything smelling of poo!

He is such a lovely intelligent boy but I just don't get it. My other two boys were nothing like this.
But I am determined not to give up and have taken on board all the above hints and tips.
As for your nursery ellagrace, don't worry too much it is their job. I used to work in a nursery and they should be doing what you ask them to, and working with you.

Thanks guys it is nice to know you are not the only one! Chin up everyone, we will get there one day!

It's reassuring to find you all - DD will be three next week and potty trained about six months ago. She hasn't had problems with wees. But poos are a different story...

Sometimes she'll tell us she needs one and she'll sit on the loo and do one, easy as that. But she seems to save most of the poos and does them in her nappy at night. Have tried bribery, making fuss, making no fuss, being very sad and so on. She's not scared of going on the loo, just seems like she can't be bothered.

Not sure what to try next but it's nice to know I'm not the only one!

As I suspected we still have a long way to go. DD1 has done two further poo's on the potty since the weekend but today we are back to using our pants and DD (they are twins) seems OK with the wee but is also using her pants to poo in.

Why did I ever remove the nappy!

Thanks for all the tips on here..... DD is finally and slowly getting the hang of poos I think.... a few misses still, but at least some are going in the potty now rather than none. The biggest things which seem to help have been ignoring it - thanks Llynn. If I hassle her she gets stressed and doesn't do it, and her watching me on the loo, and me making a big deal of showing her etc (the things you find yourself doing - she enjoyed listening for the 'plop'.... but then very firmly told me that I couldn't have a sticker). Potty in front of the telly after dinner and before bed seems quite a good one too..... good luck everyone else - thinking of you all!!!