May 2010: All the babies have arrived, welcome to the other side!

[rachelfruitloop]

Here we are ladies, a new Postnatal thread! I wonder if we'll fill this one up as fast with one-handed typing?!

hi all,
bf or should i say breast pain improving quite a lot, today i dare not to ware breast pads, no tfor the leaking but for extra padding against cloths, and oscar now in the breast at least 3 times a day, in the morning we don't even top up with formula the first feed

house work, i might be a bit paranoid, we had visitors today and nobody mention the estate of the house, it must be that i know what i have not done, but plan with dh to reorganize our weekends so more can be done, for my peace of mind, he doesn't seem to worried, and thinks that going out for a family walk is far more important than a spotless bathroom

first, let us know how you are doing with op and everything, thinking of you

all those missing, i hope you can read and just not time to reply, and everyone is reasonably ok

those on hols, how wonderful, and please relate experiences flying with prams, bit terrified here...

dtd, not so much, but you can start with intimacy, if, finger crossed, your baby sleeps at any time, jump in bed to a good movie and cuddle, the rest will come, go as far as you dare (epitosomy here), and pigley, your dh hasn't gone off you, don't be silly...he is just giving space, might be afraid of hurting you...just patience and communication

what you do with a baby that sucks on his fingers, his toys, blankets, muslin squares, you name it but the dummy? help, please.

and i think i worte long enought, must be back to baby...

ML - my Gecko is parent-facing (can be either) and I do love it. Agree with Carikube as well, we moved Corin out of the Moses basket and into the cot and he dropped the night-time waking so now just has a dreamfeed at my bedtime (which I don't want to drop because I love it )

Wouldliketoknow - great news about BFing. About the sucking, with DD we gave her a bunny toy to suck on which is still her favourite toy now (we have lots of spares and he comes everywhere with us although she hasn't sucked on him since she was tiny). Corin just sucks his fingers and doesn't seem to like anything else so I'm just letting him get on with it for now.

DD has started climbing out of her buggy everywhere now so today was a bit of a nightmare. I think I need to start using the double buggy or the pram+buggyboard. I don't mind her walking except I walk everywhere and generally do all the shopping so I'm a bit scared of her going buggyless tbh. I think it's probably better than her climbing out all the time though.

just a quickie - dd1 is doing much better now thanks for the concern. We have another few days of laying low so that is probably going to be a further test!
The potty training is on a back burner but ds will not leave his nappies on and takes them off at every opportunity.

dd2 is still not sleeping very well. Will not sleep in the day, unless in sling and even then only for max of 45 mins. We are now co-sleeping in a bid for me and her to get some more sleep. This has worked a bit but there is no wonder dh and I are very distant.
He gets up with ds (early riser) and I see him briefly before he goes to work.

DD2 will not take a bottle - I have struggled to feed her and am using a supplementer during the day anyway. Does anyone have any advice about getting lo's to take bottles?

Feeling very fat today - nothing fits and I have no decent clothes I can get in to. In fact, I am feeling rather down all in all.

Hope everyone is doing ok - sorry for no personals.

Hi everyone

hormonalmum sending a big hug

Feeling a bit down here too today. Was up 3 times last night, only once to feed Harry and twice with DD who was crying for no apparent reason. She's been grotty but my already frayed temper was horrible today. DD scarcely left the 'naughty step' and I feel a horrible mummy for losing it so many times with her. My world really does revolve around sleep and now 12 weeks in to broken nights I feel like I'm on my knees and not enjoying my days with DC

Sorry for me post, needed to get it off my chest. Night all.

evening all!

just a quick post to bookmark.

hormonal try putting the bottle under you armpit so just the teat sticks out as it resembles breastfeeding more, also use the widest teats you can find or if possible ( more pricy) long teat bottles as these let the milk out more slowly.

will post again tomorrow have to go and hoover before i go to bed.

take care all

Sorry hormonal that you are feeling down. I don't have any advice re getting LO to take a bottle as DD2 hasn't had one yet (I'm still too proud about bf working this time round so I don't have any desire to introduce a bottle). No dtd going on round here either even though we are getting full night's sleep...

wouldlike I can understand you getting frustrated about the housework - I get fed up with DH being useless around the house (quite how it is so difficult to put dishes in the dishwasher etc, I don't know). However don't dismiss too quickly the fact that he is wanting to spend quality time as a family as at the end of the day is your LO going to remember a clean house, or happy times with his parents?

sorry x-post with millington hope you're feeling better too...

Hormonalmum - glad your DD1 is doing better. Sorry you're feeling so down About taking bottles - apparently it can help if your partner does it at first because he won't smell of milk?

Millington - must be really hard being so tired DD is being pretty difficult here and it's hard enough to deal with as it is, would be awful if I still wasn't sleeping.

Hi All, sorry its been a while, have been inundated with visitors.

WLTK at HV you should definately complain! Well done on Oscar's weight gain!

SK & sassles re meet up, don't want to exclude the southern girlies but id be up for trying to arrange a scottish meet up too, i'm near Inverness but can travel

pigley lol at Abigail learning to share

newmomma so sorry you are down, please use here to vent

hollyoaks Glad scans went well, not too sure what ro do about weight gain, if your worried definately speak to someone

Thats as far as i've gotten for now, wee man requiring attention!! Will finish rading later

carikube, dh is quite good around the house and i guess i really can't complain, he cooks dinner every night and feed and cleans the cat, does more at weekends, but he works a lot, i mean he leave the house at 7 am and sometimes doesn't get back until 8 or 9 pm, still helps to bath oscar and plays a little with him, on the weekends, we really want to get out for an afternoon, especially now is so sunny in the south east, and with a little baby a walk takes about four hours, with feeds and changes. i guess i have to learn to live with a not so perfect house... the problem is i am a bit of a prefectionist, i can take an untidy order but gets to a point when it distresses me, i need something done about it, my house is quite small (we need to move arghhhh) so it all gets quite messy really quick, i am coping by keeping clear the room i use the most (out of sight, out of mind approach), and when all gets too much i clean what bothers me the most and i do a list of things i want done in the weekend, there never is time to do it all, but...

sorry me post...i'll do personals to redeem myself...

bottles, i use tomme tipees close to nature, oscar likes them a lot more than avents, also he feeds in the same position as breast feeding, with the tit of the bottle where your nipple would be, and he has no problem at all switching one to other.

push chairs, we still using the pram mode, he is quite happy with it, but my push chair faces forward...

sibblings, no personal experience here, only nephews, they're cousins, 3 and 6, at the beggining 3 and months, the older didn't mind the other, it was when he grow up a bit and started taking his toys, or breaking his lego towers that he got really upset, his favourite sentencec was 'i know he is only little, you don't have to tell me, but i don't want him breaking what i did', said screamming during a tantrum, this is still going on, but they also love each other and complain when the other one isn't home, one is the house of the other while his mother work so they really are all day together. ask my dsis how she cope with that and she said that if they hit each other they go to different rooms, if not let them scream...

how you ladies notice that everyone is getting a bit blue, we must do something to pick ourself up

jabs today, lets see how he take it

Morning all,

Had Grace weighed this morning and she's put on 7oz this week making her 8lb 10oz. So, still on the lowest centile but moving in the right direction.

For anyone suffering with piles I can't recommend Anusol highly enough. It turns out I have a fissure/tear which is why I've been in so much pain going to the toilet. GP prescribed a cream at first which I can't remember the name of which can cause severe headaches and dizzyness and wasn't tested on bf mothers so I decided not to use it and went with the anusol. So far so good.

Millington/Hormonal - sorry your having a rough time, I would be exactly the same if I wasn't getting my sleep. Remember its just a faze and it to shall pass.

Den - nice to hear from you, cute pics on fb.

Molly - good to hear that your anxiety levels are remaining low.

only fed every 1 and half hours last night, best for days!

virginias cold is improving but she is still very unsettled, just wants hugs.

hence very quick post so as not to lose thread.

hope all is well as can be, special hugs to all this feeling blue right now, wish i could visit you all and bring cake.

Well done to grace and hollyoaks. Staying on her centile sounds v positive.
Glad Virginia is improving homebirthmummy.
Hi again den26. Love the fb pics.
Sending anti-blues vibes to all that need them.

....sneaks back on....

hollyoaks i second the anusol!!

exercise - i need to find the motivation! gonna have very toned legs from constantly rocking the pram while cooking, ironing, doing dishes....

Jabs - rian has second lot next week, dreading it

routine - vague one starting! bath every second night. finding dream feed at 11 helps to get sleep until 5ish - thats if i can wake him up for it!!

Feeding - being bit problematic. Rian started fussing at boobduring the day but feeds from me fine at night therefore giving formula. supply now down. offering him the boob every feed now he'll take a little from each side then fusses and have to give him formula as he gets in such a state

Have our first meeting with neurosurgeon on 13th August - all seems very real now

oops meant to say re toys - rian is 11 weeks this week and he is paying more attention to things. he loves his mobile and smiles and ga's at it. we have a seahorse which glows and plays music which he gets at bedtime and he likes to sit up in bouncy chair with its toys attached. find i can leave him in chair for longer now.

re monitors - we were given a lindam clarity as a present. i love being able to see him on it.

ML- We have this pram. Its similar to a Quinny, although the carrycot is bigger and the seat reclines better than the buzz. The seat is larger than the quinny too so DD fitted in it for much longer (still does at 2 where as my friends DD looks far too big for her buzz). My DD was rearfacing till about 18mths.

How did the cot go? I remeber feeling very jealous of everyone with DD, when they were all sleeping well and she didnt sleep through till 9mths.

Heffa- Weve done without a double buggy and just use a buggy board. DD likes it walk alongside the buggy and jumps on the board when she gets tired. We had a few weeks of her not wanting to hold my hand when crossing the road ect which was tricky but now shes fine and asks to hold my hand. We had a big chat about cars being dangerous and after a fab walk with her holding my hand i bought her a magazine, telling her why she got it which really worked.

Millington- Its very draining when you get days like that isnt it . If its not one its the other!!

Hormonal- Tommee Tippee bottles claim to be closest to breat feeding.

Wouldliketoknow- Just do the basics. DH has the right idea really, enjoy family time in the good weather whilst you can.. it wont last forever and you'll be stuck indoors. Plenty of time for housework then.

Hollyoaks- Well done on the weight gain. Reminds me to take Lucy along tomorrow.

Homebirth- Glad Virginias cold is improving

Den- Hope the meeting goes well. Thinking of you.

busy morning here. Rhyme time at the library with friends, borrowed some books then off to the park for a play. I swear that child has no fear!!
DD and Lucy are now both napping so im enjoying the little bit of peace

Sorry me again...once you start!...Just realised i missed a whole page!!

ML - thanks for thinking of us, just waiting for the meeting on 13th now.

Angel - I am so so sorry. I hope you are ok and as the others have said, please feel free to off load on here.

Racquel - hope george is ok and well done you for speaking up and being assertive

Cupcake - was it you who was asking about swim nappies? Rian is 13lb's and i used huggies. Check with your pool, i now our local pool stocks individual nappies of different sizes but money wise you'd be better buying a pack from a shop. Good for first try though.

Re arm bands - i know you can get baby floats not sure who would stock these though.

I have ordered a babasling from kiddiecare which should arrive tomorrow. Rian is killing my arms!!! Never used a sling before so should be interesting.

Sorry if i've missed anyone but i think i've hogged enough posts!!!

hey, where is everybody today...?
jabs went really well, first one he didn't even take notice, second one he cried, really stinks apparently, but only for a minute, went home, gave him a bottle, asleep since then, just waiting for him to wake up to put him to the breast again, 40 min this morning and then express 20ml more...

wltk so glad they went well, we are going tomorrow.

good luck, it isn't that bad i think i was quite apprehensive, no reason really...

Hello all, not posted for a week or two, had a long (wet) weekend away and somehow dont seem to have had as much internet time, still facebooking though

Alex is 11 weeks now and 15lbs 3oz, still breastfed except for 2 feeds. I am a bit concerned at his size as looks huge but HV not worried. Still feeding 2 or 3 hourly but have given in now and not stressing about it, instead just thinking it will get better when I wean him, probably at 4 months. I waited until 5.5 months with my DD but she was not this big/hungry.

He still wakes twice at night it used to always be 2 and 5am but now it can be anything, last night was midnight and 4am. Dh does whatever the second feed is.

Not much intimacy between me and DH but feel only a month or so from getting our lives back. Trying not to stress about anything after getting this poem from an ex colleague today ...

Mother, oh Mother, come shake out your cloth
Empty the dustpan, poison the moth,
Hang out the washing and butter the bread,
...Sew on a button and make up a bed.
Where is the mother whose house is so shocking?
She's up in the nursery, blissfully rocking.

Oh, I've grown shiftless as Little Boy Blue
(lullaby, rock-a-bye, Lullaby loo).
Dishes are waiting and bills are past due
(pat-a-cake, darling, and peek-peek-a-boo).
The shopping is not done and there's nothing for stew
And out in the yard there is a hullabaloo.
But I'm playing "Kanga" and this is my "Roo."
Look! Aren't his eyes the most wonderful hue?
(lullaby, rock-a-bye, lullaby loo).

The cleaning and scrubbing will wait till tomorrow,
For children grow up, as I've learned to my sorrow.
So quiet down cobwebs. Dust go to sleep.
I'm rocking my baby and babies don't keep.

Made me sob

me too, don't know why it brings tears to your eyes...

Den fingers crossed for the 13th..lovely new pics on facebook..your LO is super cute

Pigley Im afraid we chickened out of the cot last night but she is definitely going in it tonight..Like the mobi..looks like a nice pram..I love my luna mix but DD just looks so lost in it forward facing..and cant use the car seat all the time..any way have been to Liverpool today and bought Nemo's(another mumsnetter) Bebe confort Loola..its lovely as the seat is really padded amd and it faces forward..also..it will fit in our people carrier when all the seats are up which is a bonus

Olivia has her last lot of jabs in a week or two then thats it for a few months..time is going so quickly.

Evening all

Thanks all for your well wishes, much brighter day today with only one wake up last night and a lot more caffeine in my system today

wltk glad the jabs weren't too horendous. Harry has his second lot in the morning. And congrats on your amazing perseverence with the feeding, you're doing amazingly well.

pigley very envious of you getting both DDs to nap at the same time. DD1 is extremely reliable with her middle of the day nap but even though I put Harry down at the same time, exhausted and ready to snooze he only ever seems to last 20 mins or so. He then spends the next hour grouchy and crying on and off because he's still tired, only his feed at 2-2.30pm cheers him up. I rely on that time to actually get things done (and check mumsnet ) so it's a real pain in the pyjamas that he just won't stay asleep.

hbm4 I hope Virginia's cold is clearing. I really don't know how you're surviving on such disturbed sleep. Hope the jabs go well tomorrow too.

hollyoaks congrats on Grace's weight gain!

rachel how are you getting on with DS1? I'm lucky that Millie thinks her little brother is quite nice. I really lay it on thickly about how much DS loves his big sister, "look how he's smiling at you" etc. etc. Also the best way I've found to respond to her general bad behaviour is to ignore her completely until she's calmed down.

Love to all, hope everyone has peaceful nights. xx

Just quickly scan reading to catch up, am up for meeting up. I live near Nottingham and can meet up within reason centrally.

Am off to bed, its gone 9pm x