May 2010: All the babies have arrived, welcome to the other side!

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Here we are ladies, a new Postnatal thread! I wonder if we'll fill this one up as fast with one-handed typing?!

newmomma, sorry i'm really away from you, brighton!
i'll take any help i can have with bf, even if it is just encouragement if you ever read me saying i'm about to give up. i go to 2 bf support groups,it seems that the problem is that my milk took to long to come, 10 days after birth!, and due to com plications we had toi give him bottles, he refused to latch until i have some milk, i got it through constant expressing, and by that timne he was 4+ weeks old, at that age is always a problem, also this is a very hungry baby and i can't keep up with supply, doesn't help that he misses that full up feeling of the formula bottle, so now, i put him to the breast as much as i can (hurts like hell), express as much as i can, better breast milk in a bottle than no breast milk, and keep going, if one day exclusive bf happens for us, cool, if not, we are doing our best,...
but do keep telling me to keep going, i need to hear it
ups!! me post

Newmomma - God I feel for you, we went through it to (screaming every day from about 7 til 10) and I actually think Matilda was hungry - have you tried feeding her more? Sorry really obvious I know but I was so stuck on the '3-hourly feeds' thing that it didn't occur to me for ages.

It WILL pass. Hang in there.

newmomma i think if you express some onto a sterile spoon, add the drops and give it to baby pre-feed it works

alle i'm the same. very close to giving up Keep going alle!!

newmomma this is their site

newmomma, mn has a find a mum in your area service, might be helpful?

anangel, don't give up, you've come so far... if i can do it you can do it, we'll support each other

Just remembered you can cup feed a newborn and syringe feed, get a 5ml syringe from the chemists and squirt the colief in.

Jacob asleep in sling but only have one hand as the latest is he loves sleeping in the sling but hates his head covered so caanot bear being cosied in with his head supported so he has his floppy sleepy head out with my hand holding it - babies!

Newmomma - so for you. Have you tried white noise? The hoover? Hairdryer? It works with my LO, but if it doesn't help your baby, it at least gives some relief from the screaming while you are trying other things.

Hello all. Sorry have not posted for AGES! Have been keeping up to date by reading messages, but have been just too tired to contemplate posting. Anyway, things seem to be pretty settled here. Julia has gone to bed in her cot by 6.30 every night since coming home from hospital and has slept really well. She was up once a night at the start but last night went 6.30 - 6.30 without a peep or a feed (she's 7weeks). She is still a very sleepy baby in the day too.Seems to like cuddles much more than dd1 ever did.
Was so determined not to get hung up on routine so much this time but Julia seems to thrive on it and it's what she put herself into.
Having said all that positive stuff I am having many downs emotionally. Cos she's such a good baby I feel even worse for feeling low.
Am trying to get out a bit this time as was virtual recluse with dd1. Don't have any family/friends nearby so not easy but trying to do something each day. Tomorrow's won't be fun as Julia has BCG (we live in high risk area) and then she has 8 week jabs on Friday.
Some of you may remember my dad was given a few months to live (cancer) just before Christmas. He's been undergoing chemo for the last 4 months. On Monday he had a ct scan which revealed the tumours in his liver and stomach have both gone and the one in his pelvis has halved. think he may be in with a fighting chance again. This is his fourth fight against cancer.
Hope everyone has good night tonight. Sorry for ME post.

Newmomma- Sorry to hear your feeling down. You must be exhausted. Lucy has times where shes really grumpy and spends most her awake time usettled/crying/grumping and its hard work so i feel for you if its constant.
Could it be reflux? My friends little was constantly crying and upset and now with reflux medicine ( no idea what) hes a different child.
Hope you can get through to that helpline again.

Angel- Woo hoo!! glad its fixed! Would be a nightmare for me as we dont have family near who could help and the only launderette locally burnt down a while ago!

SK- dont feel bad.. Im sure the girls wont remember in years to come and will enjoy themselves whatever they do. Im sure they enjoy the paddling pool in the garden just as much There are times when i feel stretched and thats only with 2, so hats off to you!

Alle01- We arent too far from you in Crawley

Lucy is now sparko after doing the baby massage on her that i learnt with DD. I still have lots of lovely oils left so shes smelling lovely
Poor thing is very sweaty tonight though as its so muggy here.

I signed DD1 up to Baby Ballet classes today She is going to LOVE it! She already thinks shes a ballerina and does "spinning" and "pointy toes"! Cant wait to buy her a cute little leotard and tutu

X posted with Alex- Julia sounds like a fab sleeper!!
Great news about your Dad too

rachel LMAO at your pumping advice.

Just quick post as having bit of nightmare day.

Sam been awake solidly since 9am this morning except few wee 5 min cat naps. Keeps waking up. Been crying/feeding/poos all day. Think may be wind, but hard to burp and then still cries once he burps. Poor wee mite.

newmomma Really, really feel for you. This is just one day for me and v v v hard to keep calm and not weepy. You are amazing to be coping so well and still sound sane. Hope you get some sleep tonight.

Newmomma - Just wanted to say I'm thinking about you. Wish I had some good advice, my DD1 had awful colic and we used colief, but also the only thing that would truly send her off to sleep was car journies - I (fondly) remember my Dh driving round the block several times at 3 in the morning.

alle - Keep going!!! It is one of my biggest regrets ever that I have now failed 4 times to feed my children myself, you do sound like you're doing a great job.

Carikube - I have a 10 year old nephew and when he is not on some sort of electrical equipment he really loves playing with my DCs, especially the little ones! It's amazing how much he regresses, it's almost like he's been given permission to rediscover the child in him! In my opinion they grow up far too soon, and love having the opportunity to actually play!
We have just started using fleece liners this week (junior joy) and they are brilliant! They keep Tom much drier and the nappies looking like new. Hope you like them. Think I might go to Ikea when I need some new ones and cut up one of their £2.99 fleece throws - they are meant to be really good.

Angel - So happy for you about your washer!!!! Good luck with all the piled up stuff.

homebirth - ay Virginia's weight gain.

Pigley - I totally understand your dislike of your Dh's commute. My Dh works one day a week in london and we live in Halifax! I dread it every week. Well done on going back to swimming! I'm totally with you on time going too fast, it's a shame you can't press pause every now and again.

Sassles - I really feel for you. We live in the same town as my in laws, thank God, as I don't think I could cope with them staying. Hope it goes okay.

Hollyoaks - Hope grace is okay and the cream helping. For piles I swear by xyloproct. It is full of strong local anaesthetic, a big percentage, unlike over the counter ones, and actually gave me some relief

Molly - Hope you find some nice nursing bras, and that you're feeling a bit better.

Rachel - Hope you manage to get some earplugs

I would so love to meet everyone! - I'm quite new to using the internet to talk to actual people, so it's strange to feel like I know you all, but don't know you know you - IYKWIM. Would be so lovely to actually meet some of you Wonder if we would ever be able to find a central meeting spot??

Grrrr

clearly I'm grumpy today. Mega annoyed with dh this am. This evening it's dd1 - giving me all this sob story about me having no quality time with her. I am trying so hard. I've watched movies with her and tried to get her from school when possible when Molly not feeding. Everything I do is ignored and it's all about what I haven't done. I know she's only little at 9 but I'm not robust enough emotionally to cope with the onslaught especially as I am considering her. Trouble is I am pulled in all directions with work, the kids and dh but i totally put her needs before mine.

quick post..as I have only just walked in from work..so Im dead on my feet..DD went to DMS and I collected her on the way home..they had a nice bonding session which went a bit tits up (excuse the pun) when DD refused the expressed milk in a bottle and bawled for the breast..DM looked a bit stressed when I arrived!..as DD was desperately trying to latch onto her..

Newmomma..this is easier said than done..but please dont dispair..I promise you I have been in your shoes and Im not emarrassed to admit that on many occasion I Fantasied about walking out of the house and leaving DS1..he cried from the mpment he was born until he was 4 months old..from 4 months onwards he was a miserable baby..then he turned a year and became a gorgeous placid, happy child..and still is a happy go lucky young man now (hes 16)..The only time he didnt cry was when he was feeding..

if you have tried everything..and DD doesnt appear to have anything "wrong"..you could try the following

Sling

Cranial massage

and if possibility of colic..turn her onto her tummy over your lap..that really works for some babies...also try massage her tummy through her cloths

if all else fails..when she is crying..put her in her pram/moses basket/cot..ensure she is safe..and walk away, close the door..go and make yourself a cup of tea or something..she will not come to any harm

so sorry that you are having a miserable time..theres nothing more distressing than a new babies repetitive crying over and over again..you feel so helpless

Ok - feel better for the rant and a few deep breaths.

Sorry it's so tough newmomma. Reflux is deffo a possibility to discuss with hv. Keep trying to remember this will pass. Every stage does and for every child there are easier and harder bits. Ds was a nightmare toddler bur is much easier now than perfect toddler dd1. (must follow own advice)

Alexw - don't beat yourself up about down days. No mum of a new baby needs an excuse for being low and maybe the fact that julia is giving you time to think about your dad is part of what's making it harder. Even though the news is good don't underestimate how hard this is on you all.

Pigley - baby ballet sounds so cute.

Sassles - sorry it's been a bad day. Is there a full moon as Molly having a "challenging" day too.

Kateyjane - I'm a long way from you all but hope we can meet up some time. It's a weird thing making friends online but i think it's great.

Carikube - re 10 yr old. Whatever games console of choice always a start. I have loads of games ds never uses any more for various consoles. Can I help by donating a game or two. Otherwise just playing as has already been said and if with wee ones he'll enjoy bossing them around if at all like ds.

Love to all. I'm going to get dh to find me some chocolate as Molls not even slightly settled so it's going to be a long night.

Hi All

Need to have mega catch up - apologies in advance if I miss anyone.

Carikube - sorry to hear about your cousin, that must be tough on you all. I have no experience of 10 year old boys, but all boys like building stuff in my experience, so maybe try some big lego (so your DD doesn't eat them!) or some construction kit/blocks? Otherwise, playing football or other sport outside always a winner.

SK - you are doing a good job, your DDs will not miss what they have never had and you will be able to take them swimming later on. Sorry to hear about your friend, awful news.

Whoever it was had a baby who hadn't done a poo for 6 days - we had the same thing with DD an took her to out of hours GP - he said completely normal. Was given glycerine suppossitries (sp?) and told to cut in half and give half at a time. Results were instantaneous. DD now doing normal poos in her own time and with no effort. However GP did say that if not normal to go several days without poo or if baby distressed then best to get it checked out.

Raquel - sorry to hear about your DS's heel prick test, I think you coped remarkably well, I would have gone into blind panic. Hope it all works out OK.

ML - wow at the WAGS party. Was the house fab (or chav?!)

Kateyjane - I am in York so fairly close to you I think?

Newmomma - there is nothing wrong in wanting to have a break from a tough time. How much help have you got around you? Could you feed DD and then just go out for half an hour walk or coffee on your own and leave her with someone else? I have no advice to add, except to say that DS used to cry a lot when he was newborn and we discovered that he was hungry - I was BFing and thinking that he must have had enough after an hour of suckling, started him on bottles out of desperation, he guzzled one down and slept for 4 hours solid and crying went overnight. Hope you find something that works soon.

Alex - good news about your Dad, you are allowed to feel down, new mum are only perky all the time in TV programmes!

Sassles/Molly - hope you have better days tomorrow.

Have been LMAO at everyone's DH stories - mine is hopeless, can't remember information for one minute to the next. He says he has a medical problem with his short term memory . He manages to do things like pick up his sunglasses but not his packed lunch even though I put his sunglasses ON TOP OF his packed lunch. I have also "trained" him or rather nagged him to put his dirty socks and pants away - so far we have got to the point where he will pick them up off the floor but he puts them NEXT TO the laundry basket in the bathroom not in it - how hard is it to move two paces to the left, lift the lid and place the items in the basket??!! But on the plus side he does make dinner on nights when I am feeding DD so he can redeem himself.

We have sold our house this weekend hurrah!! Now just have to decide which house to buy - there are two in the running. House One is a lovely house, all done up, but next to major A road. House Two is same house but no extension for 5th bedroom, needs complete redecoration but in estate position with big corner garden. Same price. Needless to say DH loves House One and I love House Two - I foresee many debates ahead....!

morning all
could it be that all our babies slept through the night, not a post today... this feels weird

Morning alle. Dd just gone down for nap. Slept 6.30pm-7.10am last night with a quick feed at 4 but straight back to sleep.

Hope everyone else had good night.

Dd got BCG at 10 this morning

10 till 6am after an expressed 3.5oz bottle

Just marking my place, will attempt to catch up at some point this morning.

Alex - great news about your dad

10.30 to 4.45 then back down until 8.30....

Tomlin I think that there are many medical conditions that only men suffer - my DH swears its a medical condition that means that he has difficulty getting out of bed in the morning He told me today how tired he was as he was up with DD1 at 6.30 - given that when DD1 woke up, he brought her in to our bed for a bit so I was awake with her having also been up for the night feed, I was a bit short on sympathy!!

newmomma I'm in Southampton so if you wanted to meet half way at some stage or even if you wanted me to come over and sit with DD whilst you get out of the house for half an hour or something we can do that. This week is a bit difficult as my parents and my cousin's son arrive tonight and are staying for the weekend but next week should be doable.

newmomma my dd was like that and it was reflux, gaviscon (prescirbed by gp) helped a little. Know it doesnt help now but she improved at 12 weeks and was really good by 16 weeks. It was awful though andI cried most days so I know your pain

Alex is colicky in evenings from 6-30pm but nothing like dd1 was, she cried all day and never slept.

alex had horrendous night last night waking hourly, except for 4am. Seemed hungry most of wakngs whether prevous feed was bf or ff. was awful and dh in hospital after minor op so was all alone. Managed to sleep 11-1130 and 3-5 very tired. Previously he was waking 2 and 5 ish.

know 6 week growth spurt but hourly seems ridicoulous?

Hello everybody! This wont be much of a post (no change there then) as it seems all I can do is very occasionally read posts....

My DS HAS a NAME! It's Rory. Hurrah, now all we have to do is register him and a police visit will be averted

newmomma I really feel for you. Although Rory is very restless and needs almost constant feeding between 1730 and 2200 he doesnt fuss too much at other times. DD3 (many moons ago) did though and bizarelly would only settle when I stood underneath a spot light. Could never work out why, but it just did.

Hope all of you are doing well.

One of these days I will have the time to post properly.....

virginia also woke every hour, wanted to feed for 2-3 mins before dropping off again and then took 15 minutes of grizzling before sleeping, previous nights had been 11, 1 then4 which was great. last night horrible, i had to keep prodding dh as he was snoring, he just turned over and continued snoring, which made me cry. i know he didnt mean it, i spent my pregnancy prodding him to roll over so its only what i trained him to do, but i just wanted someone else to comfort her occasionally, i was so tired i was scared to pick her up in case i dropped her and was worried about keeping her in our bed in case dh rolled on her not knowing she was there.
anyway, this morning, cos i am so tired , i am really upset, and to make it worse i cant get what should have been (about the planned home birth) out of my head, and i am crying all over again at the disastrous birth and scbu experience, i dont feel guilty anymore, but definately grieving, i keep seeing things around the house that i was to use in labour (oils,lights etc) and part of me is still expecting it to happen even though i know it cant as she is already born, i think i am going mad.
anyway to try to take my mind off it i have ironed every item of clothing i possess today...really must be mad.
oh also, my babasling arrived last night, is it really as complicated as the instructions make out or am i just really tired??
so sorry for me post. will try to get back later and catch up with everyones news.

glad to say i also had a good night 11-5 all in one go, yeah!!!
newm- my mum in law had a terrible time with my youngest brother il, he cried day and night like he was dieing for 2 whole years, she actually attempted to put a pillow on his face, luckily was stopped on time , turns up that what happens was that during the delivery, one of the midwives hold him by his little arm, clever, huh?, and probably dislocated a bone, and he was hurting until it cured, he was taken to every doctor and nothing could be done, i am not trying to depress you, just maybe if you could find the reason...

ande- congrats!!! great name, and no criminal record

home birth- i know how you feel, i also had a very difficult, long and painful birth with scare and c-sec threat, instead of my lovely painfree waterbirth, the thing that bothers me the most: in my very busy hospital the pool was free and would have been mine... but that's done now, look how beautiful your baby is, and don't blink or you'll miss it, they grow so fast, as my dh keep saying maybe next time...(he actually thinks i might put myself in this position again any time soon)

i can't remember who said it, dh complaining of tireness, mine does, even know somehow i wake up when it's his turn to wake on the night feeds, actually the other day at 6 am after other 4 times up in the night, i finally told him can you get up and prepare a bottle while i change oscar?, answer: no. he did got up but god i was crossed.