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March 2010- Group Therapy on the cheap

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ValiumtheConqueror · 08/06/2010 08:34

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BlueyDragon · 06/08/2010 22:16

Flip, wish I had come up with the vomit comet myself but it's used to describe the 'plane they use to train astronauts for zero G. Hmmm, sick floating around everywhere - at least at the moment it's only on Alex.

Siamese, I did baby signing with DD but never really found it useful because DD decided actually talking was better. I've seen some real successes with it but also seen cases where babies over rely on it and prefer it to talking. So I can't really help, although DD is not as quick physically as mentally (she didn't walk till she was 16 months) so she might have found it easier to talk than to make signs. I guess it depends on the child.

Sarah, what a shocker, at least Harry's ok.

Pixie, hope that keeping on trying compensates a bit for the period arriving.

Quiet weekend here, thankfully. Except for the Harley Owners Group rally down the road!

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sunshinesarahandco · 07/08/2010 08:59

hahahahha pixie thats funny, yes that was my mn nickname when i first joined this thread at 8 weeks pg!!!!OMG!!!! and for the record Rosie is currently free to a good home she is being a naughty little bug atm!!!! LOL

FlipFantasia · 07/08/2010 09:43

Pixie Grin at your dream and Sarah Grin at Rosie being free to a good home! Scary about Harry though - well done on acting fast. And I think laughing is better than crying - bet Harry was scared enough without seeing his mum collapse in tears!

Pixie pizza dough is about the best description of my tummy too! On the age gap, iirc Pacific said it's worth waiting 6 months post-birth but that there's no point waiting as long as a year. And fully agree on the period front.

IWCAS good news on the holiday front! And how nice of you to lend your sling to Melk Smile. Good news that your son's sleep is getting better too!

Bluey now that you mention it I had heard of the "real" vomit comet...but had obviously suppressed it (visions of vom floating through space [blurgh]Grin)

Siamese hope you feel better (and so does DD). Getting sick is horrible. Interesting about the signing - it's the sort of thing I'd love but would probably be rubbish at. Keep me posted about how it goes.

Heckle I think I'd go slightly bonkers with DH under my feet all day too (but I love weekends!) so it sounds like you're doing really well.

Bookwormdad hope life is swell in California.

Flisspaps I meant to say that you made the talk round up a couple of weeks ago too - I was very happy to see your name when I read the email! Hope your DH is ok and you have a good anniversary.

Manda well done on the lap top! Clever you - feel as smug as you like as it's such a cool thing to do Smile

Melk hope DD2's christening goes well.

Right, off to take a leaf out of BMI's book and go for a run [gulp].

laters lovely ladies

SmacsGonePotty · 07/08/2010 21:52

Just checking in quickly.
Having a lovely holiday, weather not been great until today which turned out lovely but still it's great catching up with family and friends.
siamese we are on Iona Smile
we had lobster (that my father caught) for lunch and crab for dinner I'm in heaven!
flip good for you for the weight loss
pixie sorry that your period turned up
sarah glad that harry is okay after his trauma
IWCAS I am excited about your family holiday to West Wales Smile
manda can you please fix my screen, it has a spider web effect across it since DD1 stood on it in April, I'm living with it right now but it's definitely getting worse!
dizzi glad you are enjoying the P&T. I have one but rarely use it as a double as DD1 usually wants to walk but it's handy if she is tired or I'm in a hurry. I had DD2 in the back seat for the first time yesterday and it worked fine. DD2 is wanting to see the world more now and is happy to lie down when tired but most of the time likes a good nosey.
Thanks to those you suggested slings for me on my other thread. I have hired a Yamo from slingjax and I'm goin gto purchase it as I am getting on really well with it. It's a structured carrier and is very padded so big baby G is fine in it.
I've held off on the food so far, feeding has calmed a little although we are still on the 2 boobs each feed. She is sitting better and taking more notice of us when we eat but I didn't think lobster was an ideal first finger food I put her in her highchair thinking I might let her taste a bit of banana if she could get it in her mouth herself but she screamed as soon as I put her in it so Granny Mac declared she was tired and should be put in her buggy instead so still no weaning for Baby G but I feel this week something may pass her lips!
I had lots more to say but it's all vanished out my head now.

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Arcadie · 08/08/2010 21:06

Back from camp with Broken Baby....... :(
No sleepies. Gnaws on everything. Wakes up a ridiculous amount over night. Sorry for not many posts but seem to have NO time anymore. Weaning? What'd'you think?? 4 months old now so I'm thinking maybe...

siamesecatwoman · 08/08/2010 21:13

super quick - bed time for me :(
IWCAS yes - she loves being upside down and spends ages head hanging off my knees, and has been known to like to be hung by her ankles Grin

in terms of weaning I think gagging is par for the course in the beginning but Im sure Smac our BLW old hand can help? The BLW book certainly suggests the gag reflects moves back the older they get. It also suggests that you can/ should stop weaning until 6 months, and it's not vital to carry on for every meal every day in the beginning.

Now DD and I are feeling a bit better (thanks for your thoughts guys - I felt very shitty ) we've carried on with finger food and today she sucked broccoli, carrot and roast potato with gusto. Not sure how much is going in but it certainly is something she enjoys doing and can do, so we'll be carrying on.

Smac Did you grow up on Iona? Do you know everyone then? It was very beautiful and remote.. I bet the internet and internet shopping revolutionised living on a scottish island..Both ways.. I always find the homemade hand sewn items I like on eBay are made by someone in Shetland.. Hope you are having a lovely time.

Anyway .. Yawn, stretch, snuggle under duvet .. Ive been up since 5.30 (car booting..shhh!)

PacificDogwood · 08/08/2010 21:39

Hello, ladies, I'm back from my folks tonight. Must go to bed now, but will be back, honest.

I missed you all and cannot wait to catch up.

Night-night for now.

Smile
Flisspaps · 08/08/2010 22:43

Flip Arsebiscuits about the Talk roundup - I've not had the emails for some reason for a couple of weeks - I'm GUTTED!! Can you remember what it was I was in for?

Sarah Glad Harry is OK, must have been so scary!

Pixie Fingers and toes and arms and legs crossed for you for this month!

PD Good to see you :)

Flisspaps · 08/08/2010 22:52

Actually I've managed to find the Talk roundup archive...Good old JT Grin

FlipFantasia · 08/08/2010 22:54

Just a flying visit from me

Waves at Pacific and everyone else. Am about to scuttle off to bed...

Fliss here's what the email said (couldn't find the round up on MN, which is odd, but it's late and I barely searched so am sure I'm missing something obvious!).

Talk Round-up
30 July 2010

Modern love was in the air as Jasonthunderpants wondered if it would be unreasonable "to update my Facebook status to married during the wedding service?" "After all," he reasoned, "this is a news-as-it-happens world and I am a fast-living, up-to-date kind of guy." "YANBU," said Flisspaps encouragingly, "could you request that your guests record proceedings on phones and upload them to FB and YouTube during the service as well?" SherbertDibDab suggested that it would be "rather romantic to stop the service and bring out matching iPhones" and confidently predicted "in 20 years' time this will be considered a traditional part of any wedding".

Seeker also thought it was a good idea, "because then you'd be able to tweet, or maybe even blog, your experiences of a busy casualty department as a team of doctors attempt to remove a four-inch ivory satin stiletto heel from your groin". Kaloki admitted to knowing "someone who changed her status on FB on the way from ceremony to reception", which Jason might have taken as a positive sign were it not for her addendum to the effect that "this was at a wedding where the dress code seemed to be hoodies and tracksuit bottoms". All was resolved, mercifully, when Jason returned to post a status update of his own: "I can't believe people think this is a good idea. I think IABU."

BlueyDragon · 09/08/2010 12:26

Hello Arcadie and Pacific, we missed you.

Iwcas, I think the advice for BLW is hang fire until they're physically ready ie can sit up. Shock at your family's reaction though, it's up to you and you're not harming him, from what I understand there's a difference between gagging and actually choking. IME there's always someone somewhere who thinks whatever one does in child rearing is wrong.

Arcadie, is he teething?

My dilemma of the week is bottle refusal. Having been mega chuffed with myself for bf and smugly assuming that because he'd taken bottles before (albeit without realising he'd had them - see ancient posts) I had the rug well and truly pulled out from under me when I had another go at the weekend and he just chewed it. Didn't make any difference if it was me or DH or different bottles. Big hairy round things. I will put up a thread in feeding but any suggestions from here would be most welcome. He is madly teething at the mo - tooth no 2 is now visible - and seems tricky to feed as a consequence, so maybe that's it. Got me really down yesterday as trying to get him to take the bottle was really stressful and I couldn't get the image of me welded to him by the boob out of my head. I know it won't happen but you know how you get into a stew. Or at least I do!

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angfirsttimer · 09/08/2010 21:40

Hi all,

Haven't got long to post, but have read everything I promise!
Just wanted to reply to Bluey cos I have the same problem with my DS. He was taking bottles now and again quite happily then just stopped about three weeks ago. I have been trying different bottles, teats and sippy cups and those tommy tippee things, I have eventually got him to take an oz or so of EBM from a MAM teat, but he generally just chews the teat. I think it must be to do with the whole 'exploring' with their mouths thing, I think he feeds from the boob differently than he did too.

Ooops crying baby - must go and investigate.

PacificDogwood · 09/08/2010 21:53

Evening, ladies, I am currently doing my homework aka reading the last 2 weeks on this thread .

So, just in brief and in no particular order, v well done on doula/BF peer support training, babies rolling, dinner parties, tandem feeding (major respect, ladies!), de-hairing, painless periods, potty training, teething, flashing boobs at delivery drivers or all couleurs Grin, weaning, swimming, going out, vasectomies, etc etc.

Pixie, how is your DD with her syringe driver now? What is/was she getting through it? Poor thing; how awful that her asthma is that bad. But well done for getting referred to GOSH. Hope she is an awful lot better by now.

Re 'handedness': Joe seems to be equally fond of chewing either of this hands, with lots of dribbles, and occasional sucking (still no soothing-to-sleep sucking though. And no preference to one side or the other. My other three are all very obvisously R handed, but there are lefties in DH's family, so we are surely 'due' somebody who is lefthanded, non? We'll wait and see Smile.

Re baby swimming: Joe enjoys a bath and does not seem to mind getting splashed too much, but I too balk at the idea of full on dunking him under water. And we have not been to the pool with him yet. Kind of hard to manage to go with the appropriate number of adults for all these under 8s/under 4s.
And PMSL at difference between Butlin's/local pool's weewee quality Grin - Manda, you loon!
I'm an ex-competitive swimmer (v v 'ex', unfit and weak) and am very keen for my kids to become competent swimmers, from a safety point of view mainly, but also because it is great fun and a good way to keep/become fit (If only I listened to my own advice...). DSs1 and 2 are still in Germany 'training' towards their first swimming qualification (the 'Seahorse' award: 25m swimming, jumping in from the side, and picking up a diving toy from 1.20m depth) and very serious they are about it too, aaaww .

Rindercella, I appreciate I am ridiculously late to this, but my condolences and sympathies on the loss of your father. It sounds like he was a lovely father and a much loved man. I do hope you and your mum (and of course the rest of the family) are getting on alright. Glad to hear your DH is getting on well. Good luck with house move. You have my admiration for coping with all that life is throwing at you these last few months and still sounding calm and together. Hat off!

Sleep, IWCAS and anybody else with ishoos: massive sympathies. I have finally caved in and have been doing CC for the last week or os. Joe is 5 months old tomorrow and averaged about 8-9 hours sleep in any 24 hour period (DS1 had been the same and is now a good sleeper although still does not need very much). Last week there was an evening where I had been trying to settle him from about 7.30pm and by 12.30am I was still at it Sad: he'd sleep for anything form 5-20min and wake up screaming again, being frantic, distressed and overtired of course. It was just hideous - all of this was still at my parents house in Germany of course. Anyway, I bit the bullet and it pains me to say much as he still does a fair bit of crying before he goes to sleep (now about 15min, at worst it was almost 1 1/2 hours with repeated patting/shooshing/picking up) he has been having much, much better nights ever since. He is now usually asleep by 8.30pm and usually wakes for 1 feed between 3 and 5am, settles v quickly after 20min feed and sleep until 6-7am. I can v happily live with that. Daytime naps however... Hmm - no joy there, I am afraid. I feel so sorry for him and me and have taken to humming TTSP to the tune of 'Row the boat' which seems to have become our lullaby.

Arcadie · 10/08/2010 10:22

Hey y'all. 8th wedding anniverary today. Fear a deed will be required. 4 1/2 months since. Bit nervous. Silly moo. Feels like this time 8 years ago, wondering what it'll be like!

BusyMissIzzy · 10/08/2010 12:23

Morning (well, afternoon by the time I post, probably) everyone. Back from Belgium, with sanity and routine (such as it is) miraculously intact! The drive was OK (was indeed the Eurotunnel Dizzi); took more like 6.5 hours once we factored in stops for feeding. Isobel grizzled a bit when she was hungry, and also when we were in the tunnel on the way home as it was really hot and airless, but mostly she slept or sat quietly in her car seat. While we were there, the in-laws spoiled her and gave me and DH a bit of a rest. I went running every morning, except yesterday as we had to set off for home. And DH and I had a meal out by ourselves one evening. All in all, a lovely break.

How's everyone doing? Seems quiet in here these days..

Happy anniversary Arcadie! It's 5 years for us on the 20th of this month too. Bless you, being nervous. I'm sure it'll be lovely :) I also wondered if the broken sleep and gnawing could mean teething, although goodness knows I am No Expert.

Pacific hope you slept well after your pear cider. And I hope you had a nice time in Germany, sleep problems notwithstanding. Sounds like the CC has helped though.

iwcas sorry to hear DS is poorly, hope he gets better soon.

Flip well done on the weightloss; how did the run go? My weight seems to have hit a plateau. Too many visitors/holidays and excuses for too much lovely food. I've set myself a goal for the MMMM though, hopefully that'll be incentive enough.

Pixie I think 14 months sounds like a nice age gap, but I still can't imagine having three under two Shock! At least you've got the older ones to help out with the littler ones as well though.

Sarah glad Harry's ok, you both must've been terrified. Well done on acting quickly.

Other news here is that I've stopped EBFing. I was combination feeding anyway, so now she's just on formula. I feel a bit sad about it, and in an ideal world I'd have BFed exclusively, but hey. She's happy and healthy, and I don't have to worry about sterilising the breast pump 3 times a day. I still have milk in my boobs though; will that go away eventually?

Sariska · 10/08/2010 13:59

Happy anniversary, Arcadie. And good luck for any "deed doing" that may be required!

Glad you had a good break, BMI. Your milk will indeed dry up but I'm not sure how long it will take. If you're a bit leaky, maybe you could wear breastpads for now.

How is your ds, ICWAS? I also resorted to calpol yesterday late afternoon after dd had spent practically the whole day crying and not sleeping. She had no temp so I am presuming teeth even though there's nothing to see or feel.

Glad that the CC is having some effect, Pacific. It is hard, though, isn't it! I resorted to it with my ds because, well, needs must sometimes.... Hoping dd won't require it, especially after the little charmer cried for 4 hours on the way back from my mother's at the weekend. We took two stops and the crying ceased the instant I lifted her out of her carseat. And it restarted the second she went back in. Needless to say it wasn't a pleasant trip.

No weaning here yet. DD is watching very intently when I eat and even seems to be mimicking chewing at times but, then, she is very interested in everything at the moment. And seeing as she still slumps right forward in her bumbo, usually resulting in her being sick, I don't think she's ready yet.

We're also going the doidy cup route - and I have a goal to aim for: a friend's surprise birthday party in Germany in mid-November, and I want to go without children!

MandaHugNKiss · 10/08/2010 15:17

bmi don't listen to sariska - you will have boobs of milk forever, now. Surely you knew this? It's on all the pamphlets re: breastfeeding, although often in tiny little print at the end much like a disclaimer.

Ok, ok, don't panic, I'm kidding Smile

Just try to avoid any stimulation of them at all (including, uh, play. Tell DH they're off limits) for the quickest 'dry up'.

Back later. James screaming so maybe he does want his 3pm sleep afterall when he seemed so awake and full of beans 20mins ago...

evitas · 10/08/2010 15:39

Hi everyone,

I'm sorry I've not posted much lately but I have my SIL and her children staying with us for some days and it has been hectic!

xxx

rebeccacad · 10/08/2010 16:08

hhh - every time I try to post phone rings, browser crashes and now doorbell. I WILL BE BACK.

DizziDoll · 10/08/2010 21:29

So I read recently that our little babes will start to recognise their own names round and about now. Since reading this little fact, I realise that one of the words I say most to DS is 'boer', which is the dutch word for 'burp' but also means 'farmer'. I think I am messing this kid up without realising it already. Oh well Grin.

We got back from centerparcs on Monday (I must have posted a confusing post earlier as DH is not away ... I will be going to Belgium with the kids on my own next week though). I really enjoyed the weekend and so did DD (2.5 years old). DH was not 100% convinced though.

Arcadie Happy wedding anniversary. It will be our first one next sunday. We have nothing planned so far...

Pacific Glad you had a nice holiday

sariska sounds like you had a nightmare car journey. Glad you survived it.

Yasper finally did a 6 hour stretch between feeds last night. I am hoping for a repeat tonight. Grin

Night night all

BlueyDragon · 11/08/2010 12:09

Iwcas, Alex is 5 months. He's starting nursery in October so I need to sort this one soon. Also feeding has gone a bit strange - he's started to get really frustrated when milk isn't there instantly, then has a bit of a feed, then makes out he's not hungry, changes his mind 20 minutes later but won't go back on the original side so I think he's just getting a whole lot of foremilk and nothing from the back. I'm trying not to get too wound up in it all... I may just go the sippy cup/doidy cup route - do you sterilise them or just wash them?

Thanks ang, this seems to be quite common.