Dec 08 Ladies - Maybe this thread they'll ALL sleep through the night at the same time!

[Beans33]

Apologies for rubbish title, couldn't think of anything - mind is totally riddled by hormones...!

Fortunately, I don't think MIL was that interested, it was ages ago now that he did it. I was speechless at the time, sometimes he just doesn't think!!

I am not sure if I have ever had Braxton Hicks. Not even first time round. My bump goes a bit tight sometimes, but not ever really hard. I am definitely getting the massive movement now though!

Yeah I thought the movement was suppose to slow in the 3rd tri since there is less room but this little dd is trying to kick her way out already.
Bump here gets really hard and really painful when it does. I grit my teeth and push it back

I think it slows right at the end, I think now is the "I'm starting to run out of space so I'll do really big kicks and wriggles to get myself comfy" phase. Annoying!

Very......
But grateful there is some just the same.

Blimey. Dd howled for a little bit - not too long though I think - at 5am and IS STILL ASLEEP!!! I don't know what to do with myself..!

veggie isn't Crouch permanently playing at altitude ;) He is about 8 foot 9, it must be cold up there where his head is...

Had lovely chat w/ DH at 6am on his way to the thriller that is Algeria/Slovenia - 8 hours in a car today for that joy, poor man!

Wow Kiwi that's great! Well done you and her.

Pubis sounds all dignified and authoritative - I like it!

Kiwi, tremendous news..... see....? We'll have you convinced you want another clackerette in no time. Welcome to getting more sleep
ur dh will be so impressed when he returns.... make sure you are both on the same page with it too.

Yes Effie, I feel that Pubis has a certain class about it too How is your friend?

Crouch - isn't that that Abbey Clancy's fella? Bit ordinary isn't he. I like her accent

Who is Abbey Clancy?

Poor little DS2 woke at 5.50am got up played for a bit then realised he was still tired so went back to bed until 9am!

Brilliant news Kiwi! I am so pleased for you. Was your DH excited when you told him?

Effie - thinking of you and your friend. x

Pubis - I am intrigued as to how your DH refers to me by my occupation. Even I never know quite how to refer to my occupation. Does he just say "that girl who works in the House of X?".

I just googled bombastic and it doesn't mean what I thought it did! I was using it to suggest I had been pushy and over confident but apparantly it means pompous and verbous. Oh well, that will teach me not to try and use long words.

Back to Paris today. Feeling rather ropey so freaking out about travelling and having a lot of responsibility at work this week.

Just popping on to say bombastic definitely has overtones of what you thought, Avo, so I wouldn't say you used it incorrectly. NOT that I thought you were remotely so!

Kiwi - that is flipping ace about the sleeping. Still crossing my fingers for more.

Rubes, little kids laugh at anything. I am SURE it wasn't a comment from your DS on your appearance. I know who Abbie Clancy is! Did you watch that programme about the models a few years ago, that she was in? Veg, she's a Scouse fashion model who I think was involved in some 'drugs shame' or other (as the papers call it) a year or two ago - and gf of the lanky Crouch, of course.

Oh crikey, the football was annoying last night. I had a lovely time at the BBQ and party and DD adored playing with the big girls there. It was interesting that most of the ladies felt sorry for Green after his howler, and most of the blokes wanted his head on a pike. (I felt sorry for him AND I wanted his head on a pike).

Right, cricket this afternoon and work tonight. Have good days, all. Herring Day sounded jolly, Veg!

Oh, forgot to say to Effie that I am whitelighting your friend. Have great confidence in the old white light!

Hmm LadyT I mainly wanted his head on a pike and DH felt sorry for him. Don't know what that says about us. Apart from he is nicer and more grown up.

Effie am white lighting your friend. Veggie's idea of popping something in the post is a good one. That and texting. when I have struggled in the past I've found that it means a lot when someone offers no-strings support, so by that I mean just getting in touch and saying they're thinking of me but not expecting me to call back. When my DH's best friend was really struggling I used to send him old b&w films - lots of stupid ealing comedies or old film noir. Also saying I'm going to be here (in this park or whatever) do come if you feel like it but don't worry if not.

Good luck with your week in Paris Avo. Sounds pretty intense. I have a nightmarish week too - this gala dinner for the charity I'm a trustee of tomorrow where I basically didn't do half of the things I should have done to support it (and haven't had my legs waxed), and then a tricky conversation with my boss and then a job interview on weds. I have taken way way too much on and am struggling. But can't really see a way out of it.

Anyway. Meh. Much more importantly can you think of my DB - he and his wife had a MC a couple of weeks ago and she's back in hospital today with really terrible pains. .

Summer your friend sounds like a right charmer...I have one of those ("you look a lot older than you used to urbane").

Kiwi am so pleased it's working for you.

And hello poison (from pages back now) do come and talk to us.

Spot I hope you did get on with some work, although the fact that you didn't kept me entertained when I was lurking on the phone last week.

Rubes I only got BHs last time (not in first pg). Hope they've settled down.

Sybil I have been trying to think of things you could be. In fact I've been trying to think of things I could be too. Hope you're not too down about work. Is really hard being part time I think. Sod it. It's all really hard. I had some rather brilliant advice years ago - if you cut out jobs that appeal to you in the paper, not ones that you think you're necessarily qualified for but ones you'd like (DG of the BBC, Director of the National Gallery ) then by the time you've built up a pile of them they tell you something about what you want. Genuinely worked for me in previous life.

And very sorry I missed potential opportunity to meet up last Fri - would be very keen to meet up pretty much any Friday if it was in town.

Am so shattered am already in my PJs and am going to bed in a bit . Also in my utter plank-ness at the moment I thought it was father's day today so I had presents and breakfast in bed and lunch booked for today. So we did it anyway and DH is going off to play cricket next Sunday - probably a better father's day present anyway. Night all. Sorry I've probably missed people. Veggie your day sounded absolutely lovely. Really sounds like you and the boys are settling in.

Evening ladies. DH is on a plane to Jersey, the boys are in bed & I'm watching the Australia game. I've ordered pizza but I've eaten it too quickly and I'm all nervous because of the game so now I feel sick.

However aside from that we've had a nice day. We went to the beach for a bit in the morning then came home and did some gardening. Unfortunately our neighbours were doing some very noisey renovations so DS2 couldn't have a proper nap. He was losing it a bit by tonight and he & I had a bit of a shout at each other but he went off to sleep ok. I was also a bit grumpy with poor DS1 but I think he was ok by bedtime. I had originally told him he could watch the first half of this game (shit the Germs scored again), but as today wore on it was quite obvious he was too tired. He did get to watch the England game last night until he fell asleep. He was trying to get back in my good book by tonight so I let him stay up & watch a little cbeebies and he is allowed to sleep in with me tonight because daddy is away. He is pretty good with being allowed this when DH is away and then going back to his room normally.

I'm quite excited I've finally found someone who does group violin classes here for DS1. He has been at us for ages to learn, since before he was 3! We have held off because we thought he was too young but this lady has been recommended by a friend and apparently is great with young kids. She seems lovely and has asked us to come sit in on a class on weds. She is even fine for DS2 to come along because DH won't be around to look after him.

Kiwi I meant to say I'm really pleased the sleep thing is going so well. Well done to you. I'm not saying sleeping through the night is big bench mark some mums seem to think it is, but it's one of those things that is nice when it happens and helps a lot of other things seem easier. IYSWIM. It also shows it's not something that has to be forced on the baby as soon as possible after birth otherwise you'll never get them to sleep, sleep sorting out can be done later as well.

Oops accidentally posted then. I also meant to add that maybe we should all put some money towards Avo & WG's sleep people as we have all taken full advantage of their experiences.

DH just rang his flight from Gatwick was delayed so he got to watch the first half...poor thing.

Urbane both DH & I thought Green had made a dogs breakfast of that goal.

Urbane I'm sorry about your DB, I hope your SIL is ok.

Evening all. Veggie hope you aren't too disappointed at the way the football is going..! To be expected I think...

Urbane Also really sorry about your DB/ SIL news, really hope she's ok.

Hope I haven't cocked up the sleeping thing - i left my fabulous, wonderful in-laws at 7pm and DD took a while to sleep in the car. Got home about 20 minutes ago adn whipped her in the house but of course she didn't stay asleep. I did feed her but I hadn't fed her before putting her in the car, so I figured that was kind of ok..?? [crosses fingers]

FIL, incidentally, did not even vaguely complain about being woken by howling at 5am, only comment was "you were so quiet getting her up at 7am I didn't even wake up, aren't you great" - and DD obviously appreciated their fabulousnes too because she was utterly delightful with them and kept trying to say "Grandad!" all day today. They also took us out for lunch, took DD out for a walk this morning and generally were Gold Medal Grandparents. They rock.

Evening, Hope you all had a good weekend, your days sound lovely veggie. Wish we lived near the sea...

Sorry to hear about work and health problems. Dont have anything wise to say on that one, except that sometimes bad work things turn out to be the best in retrospect, for me anyway. I wanted to be an archaelogist, but could not get a job, so I ended up in science, which I love. However, I think the current economic climate makes things more stressful than they should be I hope you are OK, MOM, if you are lurking.

Kiwi I'm glad the sleep thing has got better, I feel so different for getting some decent sleep these days (DS2 has for some reason dropped his early wakings and is sleeping till after 7, which is amazing.

Yes, LadyT I am really chipper these days. A combination of counselling and CBT has helped me deal with the bereavemnts and anxiety and now I feel so much happier, and the driving has helped massively - getting more confident all the time and I feel so much more independent. Last year was a massive slog and I feel proud of myself for getting through it without too much fallout !

Beans I cant remember your due date but isnt it in the next 10 days ? If I dont have time to post (or you pop early) i wish you a quick and easy labour The first few days are a bit wierd (I will never ever forget the look on DS1s face when he saw me holding DS2 for the first time). But lovely though.

I've had a lovely weekend with the boys. Bought some comfy garden furniture, made some gingerbread (except without the ginger as I couldnt find it), went swimming, and finally made the boys a playhouse out of the garden furniture boxes so was able to get the creative sides working (DH made a doorhandle and a keyhole and DS1 and I painted pictures to stick inside

Anyway, I wish you all a good week !

Great news Kiwi - very happy with your progress
Gold medal grandparent here too. Mil came over with presents for ds, newborn nappy's, new toys, homemade dinner for ds, dinner for us, re potted some of our veggie plants, mowed the lawn, raked the lawn, took ds to the playground, cooked us dinner, fed ds, bathed ds, cleaned and left. She can come again mil of the year I think. The crown is hers.

Vaggie, can't even bare to look at the score. It's not ideal is it - but not surprising

Lady, are you ruffling feathers on the baby name threads again bloody twats some of them, aren't they!

Avo yeah that's pretty much how he refers to you. I think that was when I was asking all about the nations big event, and he was explaining it (in a rather complex way) then you explained it and I 'got it' so I told him as such - then I told him where you work

Hello Njan, what garden furniture did you buy? I had been looking at some for ages - waiting for some money to come in and now it's out of stock

Beans is due very soon.... where are you Beans?

Urbane, sorry to hear about your db

Veggie and Rubs, sorry about the game last night. At least it was the Germans wot beat ya though, they're looking to be a very strong team. (again).

Very envy of the great MILS but v glad for you, sounds like they're both coming up with the goods just when you need them!

NJAN, so nice to hear you sounding so up, I'm really pleased things are going well. Can I ask if you got the CBT and counselling through the doctor's or privately?

Urbane, sorry to hear about your hectic schedule, it does sound like you've taken a lot on. Is there anything you can take a step back from or rope in someone else to help with?

Feeling v sick this morning but I think t maybe be down to some suspiciously barbequed meats I had whilst camping. Was a really nice weekend and great to see my girlfriends again, and T had a ball at his world cup bbq in London. Apparently he even slept well in a strange place overnight (which he normally never does) but this feat was overshadowed somewhat by his father only making it to bed at 3am so not really getting the benefit when T woke at 6.30.

T has yet another cough/cold, his immune system better be gold plated by the end of all this.

Right, am going to be good today and not log on again until I've finished my work so will be sparing you the tedium of my attempts to motivate myself.

Thanks for the thoughts and advice re my friend - texts and post a very good idea. I will have a look at fillums - we saw an old Ealing comedy the other night with alec Guinness as father brown, very entertaining.

Urbane: I hope your SIL is ok.

Pubis and Kiwi: yay for lovely ILs. How did the night go, Kiwi?

Any news for us, Beans? I want to hear that you are putting your feet up and eating ice cream, not rushing about unpacking.

Oh and I heard from my colleague, she is keen to do z job share but needs to get childcare sorted. Fingers crossed we can work something out. I would be working either 2 or 3 days depending.

Has LadyT taken on the forces of the baby names threads again? You can't say that without posting a link

Please! Some numpties are slagging off Octavia again, and I find it very irritating. I shouldn't bite though. But it really isn't very interesting, I promise...Though someone did (incorrectly) try to pull me up on my grammar Back later!

Morning all! Effie not bad night - she shouted a bit at 4am or thereabouts, and again at 5.30 (that one was quite funny - three ear splitting yells then total silence..!) and up properly at 6.30am. I'm hoping that the early morning yells die down though because although they aren't very long and I don't need to do anything, I do find it veyr hard to get back to sleep after. Still, shouldn't be ungrateful..!

By the way I keep meaning to say that I've done all this with the blackout blinds down - totally normal curtains again. I decided that if I'm going to make her sleep then I'd like her to be able to do it anywhere, wihtout having to worry about blackout blinds and so on. So that's good.

Right, I have a blissful day off today - DD at nursery so I'm meeting a friend for coffee, another for lunch, then a spot of shopping. Hooray!