Dec 08 Ladies - Maybe this thread they'll ALL sleep through the night at the same time!

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Apologies for rubbish title, couldn't think of anything - mind is totally riddled by hormones...!

Kiwi, I had no idea it was him, I listen to the Footie Weekly podcast twice a week. DP will be well impressed when I tell him . I'd keep that bottle of vino in DDs room for luck.

Oh and Rubs everyone told me I was having a boy with T by the shape of my tummy before i even knew. Random old ladies in bus shelters and all! And if the timing thing is right (we did the deed so infrequently I can pretty much remember that it must have been around ovulation time) so another mark for a boy.
In some ways I would like a girl so I know what it's like IYSWIM, but it's all a bit irrelevant now anyway! Tis done.

Can you tell I'm having a seriously lax worky day today?

Kiwi I just told DP about your DH and he said "shame it's not Baz"

V grateful for the book recommendation, Kiwi - will definitely get hold of that. We are desperate, tbh, as yoghurts, bananas, raisins and even to a large extent, grapes, have all got the thumbs down now and as they were what she would eat, they used to be her staples. I suppose she got bored of them. We are now down to blueberries, crisps of varying different sorts, and small amounts of toast and chocolate, plus formula. It's dire. But hey! BER-ILLIANT news about your DD! Crossing EVERYTHING the pattern continues. Sorry to be disloyal but I am going to put the WC opening ceremony on in a mo, whilst I work. However, your DH's blog is great and I will be recommending it to football-lovin' friends (who will probably all be reading it already!)

That's such a burn from your DD, Invis My DD peers at me when I have no clothes on and is fascinated by my rather generous cleavage but no criticism yet (I know it's just a matter of time...)

Rubes, oh what a shame about today. I ought to work anyway However, am in London town on Mon 21 and Tuesday 22, though have a consultant appt at 2.30 on the Mon which kinda cuts into the day. I think you may be on your hols then, though. Veggie, I am in Brussels on Saturday 7th August (thought it was the week after) but I will have DD. I have no idea howw far that is from you in terms of trains, but just putting it out there.

I am dubious about the whole Shettles method now, as we did the need either on ovulation or just after, so guaranteed boy

I meant did the DEED, obviously. Whether need comes into it or not is up for debate.

Spot That's hilarious, I may go and tell Baz now. He was, incidentally, was the first of DH's friends I ever met. It's a wonder I didn't run screaming from the party ...

Invis Glad you liked yesterday's piece!

LadyT on the admittedly somewhat implausible grounds that O's tastebuds are also similar to my nieces, the one thing my sister could always persuade her to eat was mini cocktail sausages ...

Kiwi what great news!! I hope you have it cracked and I agree leave the bottle of wine in there for luck. Good luck for tonight.

LadyT sorry the eating is still terrible. My DS is having another crap phase, he has eaten nothing but yoghurt reliably for a few days, oh and biscuits and ice-cream. He asks for banana but then throws it on the floor and nibbles at bread. I think it's teeth though as he ate a few mouthfuls of something yesterday quite happily and then suddenly SCREAMED the house down, and he is so so dribbly and is constantly stuffing his hands in his mouth. I have my fingers crossed that she will improve slowly like my DS has.

Oh and I definitely did the deed about a week before ovulation (I was ill the whole week my dates say I conceived so I am sure) so perhaps I am having a girl!

Kiwi, you aren't even clackered and you have a full bottle of wine in the house?

Lady I actually think Shettles is inaccurate for you as your dp clearly has freakishly strong swimmers of both sexes

Girl for Summer I reckon! Not sure about Spot - unless you are all SURE about ovulation time and testing it etc.

lady - yes I'll still be away those days but we'll sort something out after the hol for sure.

I think the theory behind the Shettles method is as girl sperm are stronger than boy sperm they live longer than boy sperm. Therefore if you do it around the time of ovulation you are giving the boy sperm a fighting chance. However, if you do it much earlier than ovulation say 7 days many of the boy sperm will have died off so there will be a higher number of girl swimmers about so statistically you have a higher chance of having a girl at this stage and less chance of a boy than the day of ovulation. Does that make sense?

Kate I liked your little email in about replica footballs for the world cup in your DHs page. It is a bit of a shame about how all replica balls are made compared to what they are sold for. Everyone goes on about the fashion industry but the industry in replica sporting equipment hasn't been asked to look at it's sources like the fashion industry. Probably cos all the boys would get upset, or not care.

We are listening to opening ceremony on BBC but no images as cannot seem to find a channel showing it here which is bizarre. We get every possible sports channel here so no idea why they aren't showing it. Anyhoo I'm sure they will have the game this afternoon. I never thought I would ever live in a more football mad country than England, but the Dutch def to not hold back. Every street, window, shop front is covered in orange. It's brilliant. I hope they get a long way through.

kiwi - that is fab fab news. and madam was like your dd until about 2 months ago. every time she had barely woken up she would scream as though her life depended on it. now, i would say 4 mornings a week she will wake and chat with her toys for a bit. it is a joy. oh, and even now that she is a much better sleeper (7.30-7), she almost always has a scream at 5ish, then goes back to sleep. this morning i was like a somnambulist jack in a box thinking i should go in, not go in, go in, not go in. but if i don't go in she almost always goes back to sleep.

rubs - i had people tell me "you're definitely carrying high, so it's a boy". i also had people say to me "you're definitely carrying high, so it's a girl". honestly. and i think we did it at ovulation and she was a girl. who the f* knows???

Oh and Kiwi, I'm a little nervous and excited about your night tonight. I guess even if it's all bad tonight you know from what people have said here that it's just going to get better. Are you going to your in laws this weekend.

DS2 is quite bright this afternoon which is nice, I'm feeling a bit sleepy. DH is good and ensures I get enough sleep if he is home. But he does have an ulterior motive as he feels if I'm well rested he has more chance of going for gold.

It's on ITV, Veggie

Please someone kick me up the arse and tell me to do some work, I've done sweet FA today and this is Not Good.

SPOT! DO SOME WORK!

(oh the irony as I'm here with a Q!) all this business about when you conceived - I reckon I OV'd a couple of days after one of our ahemincidents, I get a kind of stabby pain. So does that mean girl or boy?

but I'm still here!
From what I understand it probably gives you an even chance, whereas if you'd had your ahemincident a few days earlier it would be more likely to be another DD?

Spot you shameless slacker, DO SOME WORK! [aims kick]

Veggie Yes I'm off to the in-laws tomorrow - just for one night. On the plus side, lots of help with DD, meals cooked for me and much more chilled out than being alone at home. On the negative side, I obviously can't let her howl for hours at their house, but I'm hoping that as that will be night 4 of the training, the worst that will happen [touch wood] will be that she will just wake up early, and in that case I'll just have to deal with a 5.30am start and hope that one morning doesn't cause her to revert.

The other thing though is that on Sunday night I was planning to come back to London at DD's bedtime. I'm sure she will sleep in the car though the transition back to cot might be a bit disruptive? It's just otherwise I get there around lunchtime on Saturday and leave when she naps on Sunday which is less than 24 hours... Do you think it's a bad idea? I was planning to put her in PJs, do the whole bedtime routine, then put her in car and start driving. She's a good in-car sleeper, it's just the transition I'm worried about...

WG That's the dream! (the happy wakings, not the howlings at 5am). Hey I was thinking of you yesterday, there was a reunion at our school last night for my year. I gave it a miss... couldn't quite face it.

JJ I've just spotted on Facebook that you are friends with a girl I went to school with. Two degrees of separation ....

Spot we don't get ITV here.

Spot I have just asked DH if he knows your DH and he has become very excited. In fact he hasn't shut up about it, he loves your DH & James Richardson. He's not that impressed with Baz as he doesn't like some of his comments. I've only just realised that he is always going on about the Guardian podcasts. Bless him they are his special little thing each week. I've just told him that it was you that we sent the flowers to and now he is getting even more excited because he has sent S.I.'s wife flowers. He keeps going on about 3 degrees of separation. I can understand his excitement, DH loves listening to and talking to friends about football and as he has no close friends here he has no one to talk to about it. I think he uses your DH et al as his football 'friends'. I have been chatting to some friends and think I may have found him some little friends as some of the DHs are English.

Oops I meant Kiwi your DH not Spots DP.

Aw Veggie that's nice! I once went to meet a mate and her new boyfriend in the pub. I explained where I worked, and he said "ooo do you know S.I?" "err, yes, I'm married to him" I said - and he was totally starstruck. I find it very amusing that he has a cult following When he mentioned in passing on the podcast about DD loving Metallica, some random listener sent us three Metallica babygrows for her.

Oh that's so sweet. He's settled down but still every few minutes he keeps pipping up with, 'i can't believe my wife knows S.I.'s wife'. I think he is suddenly a bit sad that we no longer live in London as I think he feels if we did by now he & S.I. would be old friends. I really need to find him some football friends. He is now going on about the fact that I had said your DH was going to Africa for the WC (prior to him knowing who he was) and how he felt sorry for you, I think that somehow makes him feel closer to him. Little did he know who he was feeling sorry for. For the record Spot he was also very concerned that you were going to be left pregnant and looking after Mr T alone for a month.

Yay SA goal!!! Haha the boys are trying to do the dance.

I love your DH veg and I would be happy to chat with him about the podcast any time as I am a regular listener with a worrying crush on Baz (and indeed Rafael) that needs to be slapped out of me. How are DS2 and those poor gnashers now?

Just picked up T from nursery and he hasn't had a nap all day . They said he just wasn't tired (and I know he woke late after his crap night) but it still feels a bit like they've not really made the effort and now he'll have a super late bedtime (crashed out now).

I've now also spotted the flaw in my ghostwriting career - my ego! For e.g we've got a launch party for the book planned in July and there will be loads of great and good there and it'll be my friend getting all the plaudits (which she should as without her there wouldn't be a book) but I realise that it'll now be "the book - written by My Friend" and I don't get a look in. I guess years of bylines have spoiled me and I'm being a bit precious but still. Hmmph.

Spot a crush on Baz is highly worrying indeed ;)

Spot surely you can be a bit diva-ish and demand they only serve bowls of blue M&Ms to you and that non of the waiting staff at the launch look you in the eye, or something. You are 'the talent' after all. Or maybe you can be content to know that you have made a contribution to the world by helping people make babies. As one who has given hope to the hopeless myself over the years I can assure you the rewards are immeasurable. >veggie adds a little more starch to her nurses cap & ankle length uniform<

Spot DS2 has gone 3 days now without a proper daytime nap. He fell asleep on my lap for 40 mins this morning but that's it. DH is away for the first half of next week so I might use the quiet at home to try to re-establish a set nap time. I really would like to draw him out til after lunch but the problem I'm having is if I wait to long he doesn't want to go down. His preference seems to be 11.30 which is fine except when I have to pick DS1 up from school and he won't sleep in the pushchair. I need to get the attachment for the bike trailor as he may sleep in that when I ridevto school to get DS1.

His teeth have been on & off all day, and he has been a proper Jekyll & hyde. I managed to get some pulsitilla drops into him at dinner which helped but he won't eat much of his meals he seems content with soft fruits (he ate half a mango in about 5 secs for lunch) and anything cold like yogurt or cold veggie hot dogs. I think I might go out and get him some little ice lollies I saw at the dodgily named 'natuur winkel' tomorrow.

Lady I think Brussels is only a couple of hours by train so I'll see about coming down I would have both boys as it'll be school holidays but that would be fine wouldn't it. We could do lunch and then I could take the boys to a museum.

It's indonesian night tonight. DH & I have become quite sad and only ever get our takeaway from the same place. As soon as he walks through the door they start serving it up.

Spot you should come over with your DH sometime you can talk to DH about football and we can take the boys to the beach. Although you do have a perfectly good beach near you. Have you started doing work for the women you wanted to work with yet?

Are you trying to marry me off again, Veggie? .
That would be great to come and see you guys, thing is when DP goes to Amsterdam it's 24 hour a day work and I wouldn't get a look in, he has to socialise with work in the eve too so it wouldn't be a barrel of laughs - I'd be stuck in a hotel room trying to read in the bathroom! How far away are you from Amst? Maybe me n T could come and share some of that yummy Indonesian takeaway with you....

Hope the teeth make an appearance soon and you don't have too hideous a night.

Oh, and I am doing the work for that woman (though by my prolific posting today, "doing the work" is a relative concept). Thing is she's paying me a project fee so I can justify to myself that I can just do it whenever but I am way too slack and need to sort myself out.

Fifteen mins til the France game. I only recognise about 5 names of the squad though.