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November 09 - solids and crawling underway but sleepless nights still here to stay!!

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scarlotti · 27/05/2010 20:44

New and shiny thread

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MissInterpret · 26/07/2010 12:50

happy birthday Fruit!

Fruitpastels · 26/07/2010 13:38

Thank you Miss I don't want to get any older. I like being in my 30's!

We have major teething since yesterday. It's so hard to watch them go through this. I'm hoping the first tooth is imminent.

helips · 26/07/2010 15:06

Glad to hear I'm not the only one suffering from a bit of a belly! missinterpret I am so with you when you say NEVER ask a women if they are expecting! I went to Pilates the other week and a women I talk to there said 'wow, you are expecting again!" My reply 'erm, no, just still fat from the last one' her response 'no, I've seen you since then and you looked ok then' WTF!!!

Turtle hope things get sorted with your H soon, however you want things to go. And thanks for saying our tummy's will go when we finish breastfeeding. I was still breastfeeding ds when I got pregnant with Millie so gives me some hope that one day my body might go back to normal!

Can't remember who asked about my Cycling but I had my ds on the back of the bike, Dh had Millie as otherwise I'd be far too nervous!

Happy birthday dear fruit! Are you doing anything nice to celebrate?

Not planning on having anymore babies, although never say never! I do remember after having ds being really broody for another around this time, It's those pesky hormones! I love babies so I think I will always want more but have to draw the line somewhere and I have two healthy children and one of each so might as well stop here. Also, I really don't think I can go through labour again, it's all too fresh in my mind still!

Right, must go to bed now...but before I go, can anyone advise me on what to do about my ds' behaviour? He is hitting/pushing other children and a mum in the playground had a go at me when I tried to apologise. I really need to make friends but no one will want to make friends with me if I can't sort this out, help! (btw, he knows it's unkind, I think he is doing it because he is excitable, not out of spite!)

Fruitpastels · 26/07/2010 16:24

Helips How old is your DS? Do you think the move has unsettled him?

I'm going for dinner with a few friends this evening. DH is looking after the DS'. I've not been out of an evening in ages and I'm looking forward to it

C is napping loads today. The teething is really taking it out of him.

skorpion · 26/07/2010 19:49

Happy Birthday Fruit! Enjoy your evening out.

Scarlotti sorry to hear things are not well at home. Hope you'll turn a corner soon.

My belly needs to go too, but I also want another baby soon so am torn between wanting to lose weight and thinking why bother with all the hard work and have to do it all again. Obviously, the darn sweet tooth last pregnancy left me with does not help...

Can I boast about how smart my little Lucy is? (thanks MissI, it is good help) I started playing peek-a-boo with her a few days ago and today she started grabbbing things - a muslin, a book - and hiding behind them and then peeking out all on her own! Makes her giggle like mad - great fun

MissInterpret · 26/07/2010 20:27

helips, sorry to hear about probs in the playground with DS. It must all be v weird for him in a new place. I can't remember how old he is, but can you have a sensitive chat with him about what you've just said i.e. it's important to make a good impression with new people so he can make lots of new friends. Maybe talk about what he would want in a friend or someone at school - this one or old one - who he really liked and what made them so great. Willing to bet it won't be hitting! Perhaps also talk about other ways he could express his excitement if that is the prob. Sorry if all seems a bit too old for him. And the woman who had a go at you is way out of order I must say! I'm sure no one else will have a problem with you...they will probably have experienced the same thing - moving there and making new friends.

It was me on about cycling too. My new bike arrived today! It was a bday pressie from DH and my M & D. I've never had a lovely brand new superdooper bike before . Can't wait to get on it with Rosa. Have to wait til DH is back from London though to put on all the fandangos.

skorpion - what a very clever little girl you have! R likes peekaboo too and pulls off the cloth herself but not got as far as hiding herself. (impressed emoticon)

DontWorryBaby · 26/07/2010 22:18

fruit Happy Birthday! And only symptoms are tiredness and the odd flutter of wind in my tum! But I wasn't sick whilst pregnant with Ethan until I arrived at the hospital and vomited all over the floor. DP didn't get a sick bowl quickly enough. I would just be happier with my monthly "you're not pregnant" notification!

Skorpion very clever Lucy! I was impressed with Ethan blowing raspberries in turn like a conversation.

helips How awful of another mum to have a go. Obv the move will be unsettling for the kids, and I thought most children went through a phase of hitting/nipping etc? You did the right thing, just a shame the other mum hasn't behaved well!

scarlotti · 26/07/2010 22:24

helips I'd echo MissI and her thoughts, I also think Fruit might be right with it being some sort of reaction to the move. Maybe you and he could devise an excitement dance?! He could do that instead maybe?!

skorpion hooray for peekaboo, clever girl. Ioan likes it but hasn't started doing it himself yet. He loves to sit and clap his hands though - he did it for the photographer earlier!!

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SirBoobAlot · 26/07/2010 22:27

Quick dash past to say I have a walking baby

Its amazing what all these babies within a couple of weeks of age are doing differently!

scarlotti · 26/07/2010 22:32

I can indeed confirm that Bryn is walking - he did a fine job of wandering around the tables at Costa earlier (with poor SirB bent double providing supportive fingers!)
Ioan sat in his buggy and watched!

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longwayaway · 26/07/2010 23:02

Major catching-up needed, have been busy with DH's uncle and aunt visiting from Denmark.

skorpion I am so sorry to hear about your dad. I hope you're getting some quiet time, or whatever you need. Maeve has done some of that peek-a-boo'ing herself, it just about knocked me over when I saw her do it! Very clever girls we have

scarlotti sorry to hear that things aren't right at home - hope they improve soon x

turtle please don't get my hopes up! I'm with BBL - I'm stuck with this tummy forever, I know it... Hope your soon-to-be-ex pulls his head out of his arse so you can close the book on him and start a fresh new chapter.

DWB You have to post photos of Ethan in his kilt! That sounds too cute for words

Pav M loves her reflection, too! It's adorable.

Happy birthday, Fruit! Enjoy your night out!

MissI Enjoy the new bike!

SirBoob !!! My LO can't even crawl yet - good on Bryn!

A few of my friends are pregnant now and that pretty much cures me of any desire to have a second one at the moment - it's summer and it's hot and they're miserable!

Second tooth coming through and M is waking up again at night, despite our lovely new arrangement with her in her own room. Sigh. Besides that it seems our new neighborhood is particularly, er, lively. We were woken up last night by some drunkard wobbling by, yelling at ghosts. DH shouted at him to move on and fortunately he did, but really - we have enough trouble sleeping, thanks

ursigurke · 27/07/2010 09:12

Wow, our babies develop so quickly!
Congratulations on the walking sirboob. Paula is cruising a bit along furniture but doesn't like the idea of walking forward holding on to my hands. But I guess there is plenty of time to do that. In the meantime, she has a couple of bookshelves to empty
skorpion, wow, Lucie is already grabing things to hide behind! That's so clever.
Paula doesn't do that, not even the usual muslin square but she hides behind a corner. When I say "where is Paula?" she turns her head around, I have to say "there is Paula" and she turns the head back. Sometimes she does it too quickly for me to say the whole thing!

After another night of waking up several times and not being able to sleep alone in the cot I came to the conclusion that Paula has two personalities.
She can be really independent whenever we are out. In the park she just crawls away from the picnic rug without even turning. Usually it's because she saw some children playing with a ball. I usually have to run and catch her. And when we go to any activity for babies, like singing nursery rhymes, she leaves me as well, crawls through the crowd to sit in front and be able to watch everyone. So really independent, no need for mummy at all.
But at home, where we have an open plan kitchen, dining, living area, it is a problem when I turn around the corner. And it is an even bigger problem when she wakes up at night, alone in her cot. Sometimes it is impossible to put her back when she wakes up the first time around 9pm (sometimes I'm lucky) and I have to go to bed.
I wouldn't mind having her in bed with me but not when I have to go to bed earlier than I wanted and I also feel that it is getting dangerous as she can actually crawl with her grobag on! And the main reason why I want her to be able to sleep in the cot is that we won't have such a large bed when we go on holiday in september.
Sorry for such a long rant but I really don't know how to tackle this problem.
I think I shouldn't put her in sleeping, so I bf, and put her in when she is not 100% asleep to make sure she realised the change of scenery. But if she is too awake she just sits up and plays with her sheep. (especially if I make the mistake to give it to her for comfort)
Maybe I should try letting her fall asleep in the cot for her morning nap. I guess, at this time of the day, it would be a bit easier for me. But then I think that apparently separation anxiety is a big thing at the moment so maybe I should wait a couple of weeks or even month until the worst is over
Ok, need to run, morning nap is already over!

MissInterpret · 27/07/2010 11:19

Hi ursi, I know what you mean with two personalities. R seems quite confident at babygroup things and outside but completely freaks out at home if I even move away from her! e.g. my pushchair faces forward so she can't see me on a walk and is fine, even if I stop pushing, whereas at home if she's say in her highchair and I move into the kitchen, metres away, she cries!

On nighttimes, we have been putting her down half awake and she just giggles and plays and stands up (and falls over...) and then gets cross when we leave. However as had friend over on Sunday eve I naughtily put her down fast asleep. She slept brilliantly, much less wakeful. Tried it again last night, accidentally as I had also fallen asleep while feeding her and she slept well again.

I get the thinking that if they fall asleep themselves they are able to settle themselves when wake up and it seemed to be working for a while...BUT with the separation anxiety it was making bedtimes a nightmare so...might stick with what am doing for a while and see how we go.

longway sympathies with the nighttime waking. We live in quite a studenty area and sleep at the front, have found this a prob at times too...

Oh and well done Bryn!

SirBoobAlot · 27/07/2010 11:44

Oh he's not crawling Much to my mothers disgust But he is wanting to walk none stop, bless him!!

Longway and Skorpion what clever littles girls

MissI I think its finding the balance between self-settling and preserving your own sanity, isn't it? Plenty of years to get them to self settle

Fruit I hope you had a good day

Laugs ohh I know what you mean I would like another one (a long long long way down the line, though!) - I keep finding myself looking at pregnant bellies and tiny baby clothes wistfully. It must be an evolutionary thing that's built in, but thankfully our antenatal and early postnatal threads are here to remind me how much of a nightmare it all was

I am currently trying to diet a bit, though am very cautious about doing so because of previous problems with food. But I got so depressed trying some clothes on in the Next sale the other day when the size 18 wouldn't go over my arse I've decided I need to do something But then again a Peacocks 14 and an Evans 16 are fitting currently so I have no idea...

skorpion · 27/07/2010 11:58

I found the same: I can leave Lucy with DH, grandma, my sister and she's fine until I come into her field of vision again and then suddenly it's like she remembers that it's me she wants after all. But when it's just the two of us at home she does not allow me to be awasy from her.

I must admit that I got her into the bad routine of falling asleep on me at night, sometimes for daytime naps as well... I know it's a rod for my back but am not tackling it just yet. She just moved into her own bedroom after we came back from Poland so I just want her to get used to the new surroundings first.

I also am guilty of thinking this time when I cuddle her to sleep is running away fast and it's so precious... Just hope I'm not rearing a monster child that won't sleep on her own. I make sure I give her lots of time to play on her own during the day and don't hover over her in the hope of compensating.

Longway I can sympathise with the noise problem, horrible.

MissI yey for the new bike! We got given a child seat for one of ours, but have to wait for the next year to use it, as it is for bigger babes.

SirB wow, a walking baby!! Well done Bryn!

Thank you again for all your kind words.

helips · 27/07/2010 12:57

Thanks everyone for your words of encouragement! Ds is 3 next month so still only little and yes I definitely think the move has unsettled him. He keeps asking where his friends are, I must remember that he is so young and needs time to adjust, although he has been a little sod today and at times I have found it hard to remember he is just my lost little boy. Oh well, tomorrow is another day and right now I am enjoying my evening with wine and Tim Tams!

Fruit hope you enjoyed your evening with your friends, sounds lovely!

Skorpion what a clever little girl you have! She sounds too cute!

missintepret I will take your advice and have a little chat with ds about his friends from home, hopefully that will do the trick. Enjoy your new bike!

Don'tworrybaby ooh, time to take a test maybe? I wonder if you will be the first to be pregnant again on this thread....how would you feel if you are?

sirboob congrats on Bryn's walking!

ursi this is a prime time for seperation anxiety for the babies, it will pass, it will pass, it will pass!

Laugs · 27/07/2010 14:22

DWB I didn't know you were ttc - how exciting! I think I will be properly jealous if you are . Don't go abandoning us for some Due in March 2011 thread!

Aren't all these babies so clever! We have separation anxiety here but no walking, crawling etc yet. James also finds it hard/ impossible to go back to sleep on his own in the night. He feeds at least twice, sometimes 5/6 times! Zzzzz.... They tell you all this stuff about 'feeding on demand' but then when you want to stop them feeding so frequently, the advice all seems to totally contradict what you were told to begin with. I still feed on demand, don't know what else to do.

MissInterpret · 27/07/2010 14:33

5-6 times in a night, poor laugs

I'm not worried about putting her to sleep asleep (IYSWIM!) it's just that for a we while she was going down awake and settling herself, which was amazing. It seems to have changed due to the separation angst thing. Good reminder skorp that we must cherish the cuddling time! Just put Roo down for her nap (in pushchair) and we always have a story first. it was lovely to have a cuddle with her without actually feeding. She's very independent usually and not one for soppy hugs on the whole!

scarlotti · 27/07/2010 17:06

Laugs hope you get some sleep soon.

My day started at 5am for a feed, then he went to sleep but DS1 came up at 5:20 as he'd woken! He got sent back to bed, but came up again at 6:15 and woke Ioan so that was us all up, yawn. Work day today too, typically.
Am sure that DS1 will also now be in a right mood when I pick him up as he'll be overtired!!

Sigh. Must buy better blackout blinds for DS1's room.

Little bits of separation anxiety here although him being at the CM helps as he's used to being away from me. We now get a bit of crying at bedtime though, but I find he stops in a minute or two if I just leave him be.

Right, that's my 5 mins sit down time - the nursery run calls!

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ursigurke · 27/07/2010 21:09

MissInterpret, interesting that Rosa seems to sleep even better when you put her in asleep. I had tried to put her in awake a couple of months ago (it worked quite well for a while) and I thought that she would definitely not sleep better, rather wake up more often. So I feel quite reassured by your comment.
Laugs, Paula wakes several times too but I only feed her about once around 3am. If she wakes again at 5, I put the nipple in again, she usually doesn't seem to drink though. I've just decided at some point to reduce the night feeds and in my case it didn't mean she would wake more often and I'm sure she doesn't need more. Most of the time she goes back to sleep easily just by holding and rocking her. I'm hoping she might eventually sleep longer (I thiink, she does already)

Oh, and another thing how clever Paula is: Whenever I catch her doing something she is not supposed to do (pushing buttons on the DVD player,..) and say (in my strict voice) Paula!, she lookes at me, smiles innocently and says something in her cutest babyvoice, sometimes accompanied by a nice waving)! And today, I saw that she was actually looking at me BEFORE pushing the buttons of the washing machine! Isn't she clever

skorpion · 27/07/2010 22:13

Ursi what a clever monkey!!

Laugs sympathies on such frequent waking. How is James's daytime eating? Would increasing that help at all? You're doing blw, aren't you? The book does say that it takes longer for them to move on to solids. Could you stuff him with a banana or something in the evening? I must say Lucy's not changed her night feed yet, but she'd been down to just the one for months now. Or do you think it could perhaps be a comfort thing for him rather than hunger?

I'm just trying to guess here. Honestly, sometimes I wish they could just say: 'Look mama, this or that is wrong, get on with it so I can get some sleep woman!' Hope you have a good night tonight.

DontWorryBaby · 27/07/2010 22:44

Laugs I'm not ttc and helips I'm 99% sure I'm not! I just would prefer to have a period so I could be 100% sure. Every little bubble of wind (charming) reminds me of those early movements and i thought I wouldve had a period by now. Have decided if I don't have a period by mid august I'll test cos I have my friends wedding on 14th and wouldn't want to have a drink if I was...

DontWorryBaby · 27/07/2010 22:47

ursi I love that story! Little rascal.

DontWorryBaby · 27/07/2010 22:50

While you mention banana, skorpion, DP was at his mum's today and DMIL told him that too much banana can be bad for babies. Ethan can't eat yoghurt or cheese so fruit is our main choice for a snack and he prob eats a small banana most days. Is this something I should cut down?

Also, Ethan had an upset tum for a few days and this has resulted in major nappy rash, but it doesn't seem to bother him surprisingly! Anyway, aforementioned MIL put germoleme on his bum. Oh the stench!! green with disgust!!

MissInterpret · 27/07/2010 22:55

Oh no, I hope not! We eat TONS of bananas here - at least half a day with weetabix or porridge for breakfast, maybe more in a pudding too. It's just so easy. Another one I've found really easy actually is a plum - chop in half and scoop out like avocado. mash with mascarpone cheese. Mmmmmm....one for baby, one for Mummy. maybe that's where this tummy is coming from