october 04 - nearly 10 months!

[biglips]

haaaa - thats better!!

last nite, we had my DP's cousin at our house with his wife and 2 kids... there were 1.5 yrs old and 4.5 yrs old (i thought she was 6!! as she takes after her Dad who is 6.5).. anyway got to know them and had a lovely evening.. i went upstairs to get babas bodysuit ready for bed as she was worned out playing with them two.. i came back downstairs and my baba let out an almighty scream (everyone was in the living room with baba), what had happened was the 1.5 yrs old bit babas hand and baba just stood there in her playpen in shock and suddenly WWWWAAAAAAAIIIIILLLLLLLL (awww poor thing!)

ive gotta go as baba is tired and need to put in bed for her nap (cant you hear her?!)

All these walking babies and baby geog is so proud of having worked out how to crawl to the TV and pull out all the videos, if he follows his sisters example he'll be taking his first steps in about 8 months time!
Not sure about all these dad stories, mine has just retired at the end of last term from a very stressful job being head of 3 schools, I fear he could be heading the same way as some of the others.

Geogteach...my Dad never had a very stressful job but he was a bit of a stressy person,quick to lose his temper and always blowing things out of proportion. He was told by the doctors that his condition had a lot to do with genes but I still believe a lot of it was down to do his lifestyle. He smoked was overweight and had a sedentary job for years. I am a great believer that external circumstances can greatly affect a persons predisposition to a certain illness. Yes I think my Dads condition was hereditary but I also think that the way he led his life excerbarated it. Does that make sense?

Geogteach - didn't mean to worry you - my dad's is definately hereditory (sp?). He is having more tests next week to see if there is anymore they can do as preventative work now.

Having just bought dd her first shoes from clarks - I wish she was still only crawling !! £25!!

Hi guys,

Wow walking! thats a great achievement!

Had our development app. yesterday, all was ok still none the wiser about why ds has all these probs thought it was due to the urine infection but consultant says no. He is being referred to london eye hospital to have an electro diagnostics test to determine if/what he can see which i am hoping will be soon as it is soo hard to tell what these lo's can/t see.

Also have sorted out my tax credits and have been given a back dated payment for ds recieving dla, got about 500 quid!!!!

Getting further with all the wedding plans, have found the dress and paid a deposit for it, booked the car and paid deposit, only loads more to do!!!

Ds hasnt done anymore rolling, little monkey!!! Gives me a taste of how he could roll and wont do it again!!!!! Always the way!

Cant believe 10 months has gone already!

jbad - ooh! sounds like that everything is going really well atm... ive gotta sort out my tax credits for this year this weekend (boo!) as ive had it ssoooo long (oops!)

anyone thought of the MMR jab yet?? if so, are you gonna go ahead with it with baba?

biglips.. I try not to think about it but really must make a decision soon. Both my other two had MMR with no ill effects but after all the publicity we just don't know what to do. Chimpy will definately be immunised but we are considering single jabs. sometimes I don't want to be a parent!

biglips - am wondering about MMR at moment versus single vaccines. JABS, the pressure group, will send you a list of clinics/GPS who do single vaccines. A colleague at work is having single vaccines thru St John and Elizabeth Hospital in London. Costs around 400 I think and there are gaps between vaccines which leaves a child vulnerable. My best friend has a son with autism (now 15) and while he does not think MMR is linked in his son's case, he does not rule it out as a possible trigger for autism in a small number of other cases and following the "precautionary principle" he is supportive of single jabs for my dd.

Here's the link to the Elizabeth and St John MMR clinic:

www.e-med.co.uk/separate_MMR_vaccinations.html

www.jabs.org.uk - is the web address for Jabs.

(Please other Mnetters - don't want to get into an argument about MMR; it's such a personal choice. It's just wise to have all the literature you can get. There's loads pro MMR on the web too of course)

thanks Mommie.... BTW are you new on here or changed ya name? as never heard you before

Hi all - haven´t been around for ages, so it´s great to catch up with how you´re all doing.

Ds is doing fine - still commando crawling and no teeth yet. He can stand up and walk his hands along the table - unfortunately his feet stay rooted to the spot and at some point gravity takes over and down he goes.

Ds will be getting the MMR, but probably not until he´s about 18 months. This is partly because he hasn´t finished the course of 5 in 1 injections and partly because he seems to have a permanent chest infection.

Bellie - glad to hear your dad is on the mend.

Enjoy the weekend!

Speaking of walking and standing>>>
Alfiepog is walking along furniture with one arm supporting him and picking stuff off the ground, but he doesn't seem very confident about standing unsupported.
It's like he can crawl really fast and get around so well, there is no incentive to stand up. I can't think of anything he could access any better by standing.He is going to be 10 months in the next couple of weeks
Do babies that are pulling themself up and holding on to things take a while to get the confidence to stand alone? What makes them want to do it? Can you encourage them?
Also, when do babies talk on average?
Maybe it's a boy thing, he was so desperate to crawl and was developmentally pretty young to crawl,but on the other hand he doesn't say any words that I can be sure about, he only waves very occasionally, he can't clap his hands. Do you think girls are quicker at the social stuff?
He is obsessed with wheels as well, when we go to a play area, he starts rolling all the buggies around by pushing the wheels (and of course he licks them)
The MMR, probably will do it at the upper end of the age limit: 15 months. That way I can read more about autism and see if anything looks suspicious in his behaviour before the innoculation - it's more likely with him being boy. If there is nothing to worry about in his behaviour and he is developing normally (for a boy) I will probably just go ahead with it.
I 99% think the MMR is unrelated to autism - I just don't think the evidence is there, but that 1% is nagging me.

Bellie - glad to hear your dad is on the mend, must have been an awful shock for you.
Not been on here for ages as nothing much to report. Babymole has 10 teeth now. He's holding on to the furniture and walking round, pulling all the dvds out and generally causing chaos. DH finally got round to putting a gate between the livingroom and diningroom so stop him going in the kitchen. Babymole is not impressed. He just sits at the bars wailing. He's 1 in just under 5 wks, where has the year gone? DD1 got back from Cyprus on Thursday, is really brown, it was nearly 100 degrees every day and generally had a great time. We're off to Lanzarote in 7 wks, can't wait altho a bit concerned at having Babymole on my knee for 4 and a bit hrs. Was really sad yesterday and booked next years holiday to Tenerife.

Biglips, not thought too much about mmr jab. I think he will probably have it tho as the others have and without wanting to start a heated mmr debate I think the risks of not being vacinated are much worse, I have a friend who's nearly blind due to a nasty case of measles when she was little.

Jbadgirl - glad you had a good experience with WFTC! We've just renewed ours and instead of putting all the changes thru in 1 go they've done them all separately and I keep having to clamber over a pile of award notices everytime the postman comes.

Hope everyone's ok.

I am a bit worried as I have a 10 month old (22.10.04) who is barely crawling (a commando style shuffle!) let alone walking ! Should I be worried? Any advice to start him off as seems to prefer rolling to get across the room. He is lovely and chatty and smiley mind you. (mama, dada, etc)

hiya Luggs - i wouldnt worry about the crawling bit as not all babies crawl but they can just start walking straight away without ever crawling as hes comfortable doing the bum shuffle, as same to DD's half sister who never crawled but got up one day walking.

i know what you mean KathH about our babas will be 1 (gulp!) ...

my baba is a serial copycat talker as she is calling my DP his real name so from now on ive gotta start calling him "Da da".. she started to say "boo" to me which is funny

Yeah baba holds onto everything when she wants to walk and we are trying to encourage her to walk but still no luck.. i thought with them "thunder thighs" of hers she should dancing by now !!

welcome Luggs btw

kath - thats why i havent started up a thread of teh MMR just incase it blow out of proportion!

Luggs - mine start clapping when we all went to a circus and she was gawping at everyone when they were clapping, got home and she started to clap, so we do alot of singing (more like howling!!) with clapping our hands, and i hold both her hands when walking, i let go on purpose to do at least one step by herself but no its on the floor straight away

biglips - am newish to mumsnet. discovered it about three months ago. found this thread which is great for tracking progress for my dd who is 10 months but not yet crawling. have given up worrying as apparently genetically we were all late starters. don't move around much now, dp and myself. he's slumped watching cricket, i am on laptop and dd is singing to Old King Cole cassette. Happy Days, as Phil Tufnell would say.

Hi to Luggs and Mommie (are you from America??)
Those babies just love to do make us worry don't they. Mine is an action baby - like babymole he sits and wails if you try to curtail his adventures. But he doesn't say anything apart from goigoigoi grrrrrr dadababa etc... I can't even tell if he says dada to his dad or to the door or to the potplant (pretty random). My mum reckons little boys do ONE thing and a time, they get it right and then do another ONE thing. So if your lo is chatting Luggs - he is way ahead of mine in that area, obviously you just can't have it all.
Of course little girls can do lots (as WE all know ) at the same time.
One of my friends reckons her baby parent group observed that 'in general' the smaller babies got moving faster than the bigger babies - less weight to carry?
My friend has a 26lb 8 month old girl, who can't roll yet, the HV reckons she's too heavy.

hooray!!! baba gone to bed at last for a nap as she had been up since 9am and not slept a wink AAALLLLLL day! so now ive got time to myself (DP got a tummy ache atm as he was in agony this afternoon but since i gave him some peppermint tea, hes ok now so poss could've of been wind trapped inside him or constipation (but hes been on the loo))... oh well so ive missed my archery today (grrr!) and gotta wait till next week

Hello to everyone, thanks for comments and I feel better - I'm a bit paronoid as baby didn't sit up until late (7.5 months. Had a nightmare as was booked in for 8 month review a couple of weeks early. At review baby wouldn't do anything (including passing the cube/ bearing weight) and health vistor was horrified and suggested something could be wrong with hips/legs as he has uneven creases on back of his legs...Turns out all was ok (he just had chubby legs) but still worry from time to time (sad)

luggs - mine didnt start sitting up till she was 8 months old and suddenly it was one thing after the other (she had only ever rolled once!)..

just gave my baba a fright of her life as ive been pamering myself tonite as shaved my hairy legs and sprayed false tan on them, plucked my eyebrows, plaited my hair so i have it wavy tmrw and also last of all ive put a thick mud mask on my face... baba was trying to arrange her face whether to laugh or cry!!

Luggs - babymole crawled at about 6 months but only sat up at about 9 months so I'm sure you have nothing to worry about. I have 2dd and 2ds and they've all done things at different ages and in different order!

That's a thing. Alfie didn't sit up until the end of 8 months (or at least he refused to before that), but he started crawling backwards at 6 months. And he rolled one way only and didn't really do that very often at all.
He didn't stick out his tongue until 6 months. He still doesn't copy what I do (that looks rubbish mummy)
They are all soo different I would say it's a bit early to worry.
We were lucky and put Alfie's 8 month check off until he was 9 months (passed everything then), but I don't know if he would have before that.