October 08 - Ooh fancy that!

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We filled up a thread without even noticing!

Primary school outcome for dd today . They say that the emails will be sent out by 6pm (though may take longer to get through to us).

A lot of people in my generation do talk about it a little. Especially if we know we're all democrats or something... but for example, my dad would never ever say how he voted. He said it was personal and not something that you talk about. but was happy to talk about politics... by which you could most certainly infer which way he would vote!

I would feel very rude tbh to ask someone "how are you voting?" I'd talk politics, and you could infer from people but I know a lot of people think it's a personal/private decision, voting. But again, this is my experience from my part of america and the circles in which I have been... not of all of the USA at all. I can't generalize.

But we don't have a KKK party/NF that is just I thought it was illegal, actually.

I can't talk politics with my dad. He is so republican/tight wing... it's just toooo hard. I think part of the problem is the bipartisan system... it's nicer here.

Sorry that was all badly worded
oh and right wing, not tight... but.... that shoe fits...

Happy 30th Pistachio

I am ed that the bnp have been gaining nearly 2000 votes in the three seats that have declared so far.
Do they know what the bnp mean for women?

Never mind.

Sad as my little kitten got run over this morning.
I have turned into a blubby mess. I will have to go to netmums soon.
Or vote green

Bugger off! I'm not fluffy, just agree with the Greens on the whole.

One the BNP candidates was a woman FFS! What a twat!

I am sorry about your poor kitty cat. How are the dds?

Move to Brighton Pavillion. Could be the first ever green MP.
Just joking. I would vote green except I dont agree with most of the policies and they dont seem to have a credible economic strategy!
The same with LD.

DD2 was very upset but her first response was to say how upset G will be. Bless her.
DD1 is away until tomorrow late afternoon. I feel shite, how horrible for her to come home from fab hol with her friends to find out her fav kitten is dead.

What are you doing up? I thought I would be the only saddo up at this time

I'm also shocked that bnp even got votes. So odd that people like that exist all around us.

I understand about lib dem/labour needing their seats in parliament... but why wouldn't they join up just to keep the tories out? I think I've been brainwashed by the 2 party system...

star i have never asked my parents outright who they vote for, although i have got a good idea. Also i don't discuss politics with most of my friends as i know that a lot of them don't hold the same views as me and i just don't want to get into a heated debate with them as its just not worth the aggravation. There are certain points i feel very strongly on and i am the type of person who would get upset by it.

as ronshar said... you only start a conversation on politics or religion if you are happy to have a bit of a scrap! luckily me and DH have very similar beliefs...

Because they'd have to pick one of them to be prime minister, and because they have different policies which would have to be compromised. But it might happen.
And IMO it's totally wrong that labour get first shot at forming a coalition when they have so many fewer seats than conservatives - just makes no sense at all.

When does it end? When are final results in?

also, the way its looking at the moment, if lib/lab join up they still wouldn't have a majority

it could take up to 10 days or so (until the queens speech) but i'm sure it would be quicker

i mean the negotiating.... not sure about the count as some don't start counting til this morning.

Final results will be in once they've all finished counting, but only 38 seats left to announce.

wait, they can negotiate votes after they are in? What?

No, they negotiate coalition details once the votes are in.

no, they can negotiate coalitions with other parties

So, after all votes are in... lib dems can negoatiate to form a coalition with labour on the votes already in... that is just weird. Tell me more how that works (if you have time). Sorry, I feel really out of my element. DH knows the ins and outs of the system very well but I hate asking him/bringing it up because he just drones ON AND ON AND ON... and gets into history...

well under normal circumstance one party will get a majority of the seats (at least 326) and form a government. But this time, none of that parties looks likely to acheive this, so they get the opportunity to form coalitions with other parties. The conservatives could form a minority government on their own i think because they have the most seats (but not a 'majority') but the concern there is that they won't have enough support in the house and the situation would be unstable... they would struggle to get votes through etc.

As it stands, for this to happen, the encumbent prime minister (GB) has to resign... so even though he has so much less of the vote he still has the right to try to form a government by negotiating a ooalition.

however, lab + Lib seats combined still don't acheive a majority... Con + Lib would but i personally can't see the conservatives agreeing to electoral reform. Then you bring in the scottish, welsh and NI parties and deals with them will involve agreeing not to make cuts in those regions... so not great for england.

sorry about the random typos... doesn't help with the clarity!

here you go Star