June 2008-keeping little hands off mummy's creme eggs

[poppy34]

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No potty training planned here til next Spring - good to hear so many of you trained around 3-ish cos that's our plan.

Back to bed - was up from 2 til 5am and fit to drop .

Yeah I think the longer we hold off on potty training the easier it will be. My sister's DD has just turned 3 and still hasn't really got it (or pretends that she hasn't!). So my sis has wasted about a year stressing about whether she needs the toilet and then doing numerous clothes changes a day . My older sis had all hers trained by 2 and I think that put a bit of pressure on to do it when she wasn't ready.

ktpie, good to hear from you. Interesting you are using terries, I was using them for a long while but once the DTs started rolling around during nappy changes I found it too difficult to keep them still while getting the nappy on properly. How sweet that J waters your garden and H laughed

T is getting very weird with his OCD . If I carry him from, say, the car into the house, he insists on going back out of the house and retracing the steps he would have taken had he walked in. And when he comes down the stairs, he goes down a few steps so he can close the gate at the top, then goes back up to the top step so he can walk down each one. Peculiar child!

Mine have toilet trained just as I'm beginning to think there is a problem . They weren't dry at night for ages and ages.

Eddie Sorry about your crappy night. How is your running going? I'm going to the leaky lady clinic this week so very excited that they are going to sort me out so I can run. I live 5 minutes from the beach and there's a lovely promenade to run along. I walk there a lot, but would love to run. You all wanted to know about my mangy pelvic floor didn't you . I have to measure my pee (more ) and can either die of embarrassment or get excessively interested in it.

Deb good luck with the offer.

Ktpie hello . That's v sweet about your boys.

I forgot this morning that DD1's class is having a school photo taken. We were late for school, her shoes are in dire need of a polish and her hair is all over the place as it needs cutting. Just the image to record for posterity...Feeling like a very crap mother at the moment.

I'm sure you'll look back on the photo and laugh Rolf, it will be lovely I am sure. They don't show the shoes do they?! I am terrible with polishing shoes, the DTs look like right states sometimes. If I dress them in the morning and their clothes have got a bit small, I don't bother changing them. . It's hard enough dressing the two of them without dressing them twice! They are cute enough to carry it off anyway

I wanted to ask advice on transferring from cot to bed. Obviously we need to put the DTs in beds cos we need one of the cots for the new baby, but I was going to wait as long as possible, but I wonder whether I could do it now. They are waking quite early atm (6.30am) and although we don't get them up, they scream and shout at each other and T jumps up and down in the cot and makes an awful banging noise. So I wondered whether we should put them in beds then at least they can get up in the morning and play. We have a gate on the door and we'd make the room safe. Or is this just asking for trouble cos atm at least when they go to bed even though they don't go straight to sleep at least they are confined to their cots. What do you think?

Neenz it may surprise you to hear that I left it as long as possible to put mine into beds . I'd be very reluctant to lose the cot-as-cage advantage. The baby will be in a moses basket until Christmas or so, I assume? So you've got quite a bit of time.

I wasn't thinking of using a moses basket. We never had them for the twins cos of the cost, we had a three-sided cot that goes right up to the edge of the bed and they both slept in that at first. T sleeps in it atm (with the fourth side on!). So I was hoping to use that for the new baby cos I want to co-sleep/feed in bed during the night. I could get another cot for T, or maybe borrow a moses basket from somewhere. I do think you are right about the cots as cages thing!

I think that as it would be easy to borrow a cot or moses basket, unless T and E really seem ready for a bed it would be easier to keep them in their cots. We have a rocking crib like this that you're welcome to use if you like.

Poppy- are you around, I have a favour to ask ?

Aw, thank Rolf. My sister has a crib just like that and she will probably be finished with it by the time my baby comes so I should be able to borrow hers. Thanks for the offer though. How long did yours stay in cots then?

I've borrowed a swinging crib like that from a friend, H was in the moses basket for about 2 weeks before he grew out of it and I'm hoping the crib will do until J is out of the cot. I have it next to the bed and bring him into the bed for feeds but then put him back. I like the idea of cosleeping but DH is such a heavy sleeper I'm scared he would roll onto him.

J can be a bit OCD too, he got very upset earlier as he was meant to be helping me hang out the washing but he's always helped me put it away before not hang it out. Usually I give him the things as I take them off the line and he puts them in the bag so he got really upset that I was taking them out of the bag and putting them on the line.

Eddie (love the name by the way) hope you got some sleep.

Rolf that has reminded me to do some pelvic floor exercises

I meant to say before about the sewing chat (from ages ago) I got this book the other week, it's great if you like her stuff and has all the things you need to make the bag on the front, material, buttons etc so seemed like pretty good value to me, I've not tried making anything yet, but may drag the sewing machine out this evening if I get chance.

ktpie I got that too - my sister sent it to me as a present!

Just marking my place. Been travelling by car for 6 hours and am knackered!

I'm keen to put S in his bed but only cos I want to decorate his room . My head says to leave it as long as poss though. ATM he's spending more of his nights in bed with us which I really need to tackle soon.

Got to go meet a colleague for dinner!

DS1 went into a bed at 2 and a half as we needed the cot for dd, but he fell out quite a bit and I wish we had left him longer. DD had the sides off her cotbed until she was 3 and half and then we only bought her a bed because i was pg. Unfortunately that baby wasn't to be but she was delighted to be in a big girl's bed.

Our house misery is ongoing. they have now decided they want to buy a house that every other soul on the market wants too. Bevuase it is so popular it is going to sealed bids and they have to get theirs in by midday tomorrow. God knows when we will hear how they got on but it seems unlikely they will be successful given the number of people also bidding.

We can't look for something else as there really in nothing else on the market. This is partly why we ended up buying this house (which is far too expensive) in the first place.

My life is a place of woes at the moment - I hate uncertainty and this is killing me.

Sybil . I would hate that sort of stress.

I'll need your address if I'm going to send you the slow cooker book

Biscuits and ktpie - what other projects are in there? I'm currently drooling over this book which is a bit more unique I think but I'm so swayed by the free material

i love the stuff in this one but the instructions are overly complicated. I've just free-sewed and cut (no measuring, no templates) one of the quilts that had about 10 pattern pieces....

sybil hugs - the whole stress of moving is crap at the best of times and it sounds like this is pretty far from the best of times.... I hope it works out in the end, especially if the middle is stressful...

hiya deb did you get my message? hi to everyone else -full of cold and tired so off to bed early.

am putting off bed thing as long as possible as e such a minx when left roaming free and the idea of being allowed to do all sorts if out of a bed (AH your recent story re the blind cord reminded me that there are some in her room -its fine when she is only in there with someone or cant get out of her cot.. not so good when can get out from bed and we may not be there). Plus she is so accident prone when tired so I am a bit nervous about allowing her to get out of bed - we have a harry potter type bump after falling into coffee table earlier -she kept pointing and saying "hurt" after -the saddest thing was she wouldn't have fallen if she wasnt trying to dash to the window to wave goodbye to the nanny.. am hoping that she wont be too upset when nanny goes as she does love her but that is next weeks problem.

And re mose baskets etc neenz I would add to what rolf, ktpie have said - edie was only in hers for a shortwhile so it is up there in the if I had my time again , I wouldn't bother list.

sybil - am sorry about house stress , its horrid isn't it? my sis trying to buy for first time and not getting very far ...

sybil, that sounds so hard - you poor thing. I hate the stress of the move, we are entering the final stages now and hoping to exchange next Friday, but IMO this is the hardest part cos you have spent so much money and yet so much can still go wrong .

Rolf, I'm still power walking at the moment - thank you for asking . My pelvis is still very unstable and I'm doing lots of core work at the gym to try and tighten things up as I'm quite anxious not to do anything that's going to make it worse. What are they suggesting re "leaky" stuff if you don't mind me asking? I don't think my pelvic floor is great and may seek a referral .

I'm keeping A & M in baby prison their cots for as long as possible - as with potty training, I don't see any rush. They have years ahead of them to sleep in a proper bed and I'm sure they won't suffer from a longer stay in their cots. Where as I will suffer from sleep deprivation if I release them!

Eddie I have my first hospital appointment in a few days. They've given me homework - a hideous online questionnaire, and a "bladder diary" which entails measuring all liquid in and out (and prompted T to pretend she was peeing into a pot this evening!). I'm hoping some physio will sort it out. Anything more invasive will give me the vapours and make me cry. I think it's actually been a bit better since I stopped bfeeding, and I've found that pilates has helped.

See your GP if you have a problem. It's so upsetting and demoralising, but after answering this questionnaire I've realised how mild my problems are. It covered things I didn't know could go wrong!

Thanks Rolf, think I will mention it to my GP. I don't think things are right tbh, but perhaps not as bad as I think. I get alot of pain during my period, and other stuff which I won't bore you all with .

I have a smear test tomorrow which I'm dreading as it's the first time anyone's messed around with me since M was born!

I have other stuff too .

Hello! I keep thinking I've posted becuase I've been keeping up, but actually I haven't. This is a quick one before bed becuase I had a v. bad night last night and it doesn't bode well for tonight (Iestyn's suffering a bit with a cold - I gave him Calpol, but he's not sleeping quietly at the moment.)

Sybil major sympathies for you because I'm a control freak someone who doesn't deal well with uncertainty and that would be just so awful. But it still could work out! (That's the kind of thing I can't accept when people tell it to me! ) I really hope it does.

Funny about moses baskets - I didn't get one for Iestyn, and wish I had! I looked at Rolf's link and now I want to have another baby to put in a little crib like that! Also Rolf glad you did bring up the pelvic floor thing (love the phrase leaky lady - I'm assuming the NHS don't call it that? ) I've been considering getting one of those toning machines (oo er!) because my pelvic floor isn't what it should be - I think they carpeted it over when they stitched me up. It's basically my fault for not doing those stupid dull exercises, but also I did have a second degree tear (I mean how?! The baby was 6lb - he should have slipped out when I sneezed!! Perhaps not funny under the circumstances...nature is so ironic sometimes...) and I swear when the man did the 'manual removal' of the placenta he must have made matters worse really. (Both hands, up to the elbow...surely that would make a tear bigger, like putting your fist in a torn paper bag and rummaging??) Anyhow, I'm kind of avoiding the issue and I'll deal with it when I've completed my family. (Lovely phrase!)

Actually nobody needed to know that. Sorry.

I did a bit of sewing today as well! Some bunting. To be completed later this week. But I'm missing patchwork now and must do a bit one of these days.

Bed. Hello everyone else and back tomorrow.

Hi Poppy- yes thanks, they have booked in a Novotel . It has taken from 9 am-11 pm today to book their trip home, they set off tomorrow at 12 midday, arrive in Paris at 10.30 pm and managed to get eurostar for Thursday night, getting back in the UK and then back home in the early hours of Fri! The total cost of all this is about £900 which the insurance will not cover and now the airports have reopened - AARHGH

Morning all. Good to see the thread back to it's usual chatty self.

Hope You get your leak fixed Rolf! I really wish I'd done more pelvic floor exercises. I really should make more of an effort now but I still forget to do them. Mind you, I also had a tear and my stitches had to be taken out leaving me to heal au naturel, so all the pelvic floor exercises in the world wouldn't have compensated for that!

How frustrating for your guests Deb. I feel really sorry for people who'll incur considerable expense because of the ash cloud - particularly people who really can't afford it. Mind you I feel less sorry for friends who keep telling me via fb how they're stranded in NY etc.

Had more to say but must get up. Have a slight wine head but otherwise a great night's sleep cos I'm in a hotel. As much as I miss S I didn't him waking me up!

I'm doing my pelvic floors as we speak . Actually since I got pg again I have had more trouble with leakage when I sneeze which was never a problem before. So every time I sneeze it reminds me to do the exercises which I am thinking is quite a good thing really. My mum is obsessed with pf exercises - two of her sisters had prolapses and my mum says 'they used to laugh at me for doing my PFs!'

I feel very sorry for people who are stranded abroad. I don't like plane travel and fly very rarely, and it's easy to think 'ha, it's your own fault for polluting the world', but there have been some really sad circs - a couple I know took their first holiday without their autistic son as a 10th wedding anniversary present to themselves, and have been stuck in Turkey desperate to get back to him . Yesterday they started the first of seven train rides to get home. I hope it makes people think twice about air travel in the future though, that would be great.