Fab Feb 2009 bar: toddle on in, grab a pew: mummy's in need of a drink or two...

[dinkystinky]

New thread for us to natter on about our toddling terrors... complete with some virtual booze. Mine's a french martini....

poor you MOS sounds very difficult. He sounds like he is almost proviking you into leaving him . Does he not realise he is pushing you just that bit too far?

Sorry, not posted for ages again! Had so much planned for today, but both DCs up during the night throwing up so other than 4 sets of bedding and a variety of blankets and nightclothes to wash - and of course a big long nap for all of us - I'll be doing bugger all today!

I see the airlines are begging the authorities to fly again despite the ash - I have to say there is no way on earth I would fly atm through a ash cloud - do they not watch Air Crash Investigation? I live pretty close to all the ports / euro-trains and the motorways are VERY busy around here!

bollocks. I meant provoking

littlesez I didn't want to post this on your thread as I don't want to add to the ttirades of attacks, but I have just read a few posts just out of interest.
Now I don't want you to take what I am about to say the wrong way or anything, I count all of us fab febbers as great friends iyswim, but I just feel I need to say that I have had a similar experience as crapsuzette
There was alot of pressure put on me at mealtimes as a child, and being a very finiky eater, I had trouble eating meals.
My mum used to restrict the amount of crap and sweets we ate, and it resulted in me rebelling against it from a teen.
It has only been in this past year that I have made an effort to try to eat better and that is only to lead by example for my children.
I would quite happily eat a pack of bourbons for dinner.
I'm not saying that feeding Izzy a healthy diet is wrong, I think you are doing great in ensuring she has the best start, and obviously if something isn't good enough for you to eat (ie meats for whatever reasons) then it's not good enough for the children.

My parents always tell me if they could go back and do it all differently, they would. They would let me have more freedom with what I ate and that they now feel that restricting the more crappy food taught me that it must be better than the things that were freely available, and I agree.
Of course none of us want to have obsese children and we want our children to be happy and healthy and I don't for a second think Izzy is anything but those things.
What I am trying to say Ithink is that parenting is very difficult. Knowing what is best if very difficult. feeding is my main worry. Also, we don't know if the decisions we've made are right or wrong until it is too late.
I hope that makes sense. x

LMN sorry your DC are sick. Is there a bug going around?
Fingers crossed the last two nights H has not been sick (previous 14 nights he was puking in bed as he was coughing so much) He is still coughing a lot and keeping us up at night but think we are getting there. Day 2 of ABs and steriods so maybe they are working :-)

SM I'd kill to eat a packet of bourbons for dinner but probably not good for my diet. I was doing so well on my diet but the last week has been so stressful I've put on a few pounds
going to have a nice chicken salad for lunch I think and try to get back on track.

mos I seriously need to drop a bit of weight. I'm at that stage where I'm looking in the mirror and thinking what I'm seeing is just so disgusting and how dp still wants to have sex with something this foul is shocking!

SM I think that when I look at DH He had I had a pact to lose weight last summer. I lost a stone, he put on weight.
I did really well on the weight loss up until recently but back on it now.
Don't put yourself down though, if you want to lose weight, do it for you!
Seriously though, I found that losing just the 10lb made me feel so much better, less out of breath etc and my back pain was less.I'm doing weight watchers online and find it really good

SM thanks for your thoughts, I think I Know i need to relax a little and i probably will when she is a bit older. Just like my mum did with us.

I just find it weird the way my FIL who is obese, tries to question why I don't give her ribena FFS

I honestly have taken on board some of the things these mums have been saying including SM and dinky like seeking advice on non dairy diet for after izzy weans, oh and relxing a bit at parties.

littlesez... my mother sees milestones as 'what food (ie; chocolate and jellies) can they eat now' and is constantly trying to stuff the kids with food so i feel your pain with regard to other people trying to give Izzy rubbish.

That being said i was fairly PFB and neurotic with dd as a baby and tried to do everything right and only feed her healthily. With the boys I was far more ralaxed and let them have chocolate and biscuits much younger and gave them more freedom with food younger..... guess which two can see chocolate and take it or leave it and which one will make herself ill with sweets given the opportunity?

Littlesez The only reason I gave my ds1 squash is because he wouldn't drink water and I had to put things up his bum at 1o months, so it was a case of having to. I really hate that he won't drink water, but I am trying to get him used to it now.

I'm sure with ribena, it says on the bottle not suitable for children under 3 years doesn't it?

Try not to feel you have to explain yourself to anyone because you don't. All we have to do is to be able to know that we are doing the best we can and know how.
We also have to do what is best for each individual child. Izzy's needs will be different from Luke's and Luke's are different from Jacobs.
With regards to the parties, we were at one on saturday and both my boys went straight to the food table, Jacob ate nothing but cake, and Luke ate cheese sticks.
I'd have liked them to have a sandwich and some cucumber or something, but I feel a party is to be enjoyed and as long as they behave in an appropriate manner, I don't mind about much else, but that's mostly because I like to chat with everyone!

I'm taking jacob to the docs this afternoon because he keeps telling me his willy hurts, so figure better to get it checked than just assume he's doing it for attention.

Also, meant to say, I am amazed at how much Luke understands! He does everything I ask him to. I tell him to get his shoes, he gets his shoes and tries to put them on. he now helps to pack away the toys before bath time, and this morning he took a pack of wet wipes off the top of the toilet whilst I was in the bath, I said "Luke, can you put those back please" and he did! Wow.

Evening all. Mos that your DH is being such a prize idiot - I really thought he had realised after his last twuntish episode that relationships take work on both sides and need people to talk and be open and caring. Clearly not.

SM - if you want to lose weight for you, you can do it! Looking after 2 young kids is really hard work and its hard to take time to look after yourself - I know - but its worth it in the long run for you, your self esteem and your family. Hope J's willy is ok - DS1 had that and it was an infection in the foreskin. Cleared up v quickly with the cream though. I too am amazed at how much Danny understands. We went to legoland today (inset day for DS1's school so thought we'd go - turns out most of southern england had an inset day today so was packed to the rafters) and Danny was really taking everything in -including the puppet show we went to where he was laughing at all the right points and clapping and dancing to the music. Was brilliant. Needless to say both boys loved it there, DS1 had a full on tantrum that we were leaving and am shattered now...

LMN - sorry, meant to say sorry your DC are ill. Both of them ill at the same time is grim. Still at least weather was nice so it saved your house ending up looking like a chinese laundry with any luck. Will pop those zoo vouchers in the post to you this week - finally got round to buying some stamps today!

The doc had a look at Jacob's winky and said that the foreskin does look a bit tight.
She said there is no infection there and no infection in his urine but I'm to take him back wednesday for a follow up.

Luke, today, hit that stage of giving Jacob a taste of his own medicine. Luke kept pushing him, Jacob was not impressed and kept telling him off and Luke was cracking up!
This is where the fun and games are really going to begin.

Jacob still has a temp so he is in my bed again.

Dinky and SM - i am well impressed by your clever little chaps. MOS I hope H is feeling better now and you are able to find a way forward wrt DH.

Albert was delighted to see his CM this morning after two weeks off for Easter. He also can say "Daddy" beautifully, so I feel thoroughly sidelined! He isn't walking yet but making up for it in developing his vocabulary and communicating his needs It's incredible how much such little people understand.

Yup SM - the fun and games are definitely here to stay. Thankfully DS1 is quite gentle with Danny but does take things off him (say I give Danny a tin and spoon to play with DS1 wants to play with it) so Danny often mugs him for things too which he doesnt appreciate. I keep having to tell him that Danny learns from him so he has to treat Danny how he wants Danny to treat him

Pluto - wow, its great Albert is speaking so beautifully. I believe babies are either walkers or talkers - Danny is definitely a walker and more of a click, whistle squeak baby (though they are very expressive in his head obviously - always accompanied by a quizzical eyebrows or head nods or shakes or pointing) but very active. One of my friends who had a little girl when I had DS1 had the opposite - her DD wasnt walking at 14 months but was talking in virtually fully formed sentences at 15 months - it was amazing to see!

I'm pretty chilled about the lack of steps. DS1 walked at 11 months so we're enjoying the furious crawling this time. I'm sure he'll take his first steps at the most inconvenient time - probably when we're on holiday and can't do all the accompanying H&S as easily.

Although E is walking - just - he is obviously going to be a bit of a climber. He gets on anything within reach and piles up toys to get to the things he can't. I caught him piling up blankets and toys earlier with his leg up trying to get out of his cot . He is a long way off being able to, but .

He only says two words (in context)though "mamma" and "row row" (whiclst throwing himself backwards on your lap!

Everyone was short of sleep and patience here today, but touch wood, all seem ok tonight. Think DH might have cooked a dodgy burger on the BBQ

Hope Jacob is ok SM - are his ears clear?

Izzy is very physical and a real climber, she amazes me at soft play where she will climb up steps and go down the slide herself Its the cutest thing, she cannot get up the first step so gets to the bottom and says errr for a nudge up. Then bum shuffles into position at the top and woosh down on her own. She doesnt really say any words. She says dada and daddy, ba for bye and for hello she either says hi or o She has full blown conversations with herself though in a different language! It is so strange her cousin is completely different she didnt walk til 15 months but by that age she could say at least 30 words.

Had a night here. Ended up calling ambulance for Jacob.
I checked his temp at 9pm, was 38.2 so gave nurofen. He woke at 9:45 with temp of 40.1 so gave calpol and got a cold flannel on him. At 10:15 his temp was 40.3 and he was really flushed. I couldn't give him anything else so dialled 999 to be safe. Paramedic came, checked obs and said his breathing was fast and oxygen in blood a bit lower than shold be and because I couldn't give more meds she felt he should be checked over so my neighbour came round to sit with Luke.
We got to hospital, Jacob's full of beans, waited hour and hallf and by time was seen temp was normal.
The doc said his tonsils are huge.
Was back in bed around 2am.
Luke got up at 5:30

SM what a night! Poor you and poor Jacob hope you can find some time to take it easy today and i hope that Jacob is on the mend now. When Milo gets teeth he gets super high temps as well and the nurofen or calpol sometimes doesnt seem to bring it down - i remember saying to DH that i would take him to A&E but it came down just as we were going to go.

Littlesez, Milo isnt talking much either, he says 'hi' 'daddy' 'mama' and 'ball' but he talks to himself so much in gobbledegook and loves making lots of flatulent type noises too lol. My eldest DD was walking at 9 months and really saying alot by 12 months - its amazing the differences there is but i figure they just have their own pace for doing and saying. DH's dad said last night that Milo really should be talking now and that the girls were doing all of his talking for him - he bloody pisses me off as he is such a negative sod (always has been).

Sorry to hear about all of the poorly lo's on here - i really hope that everybody gets better soon.

SM... what a night I hope he's feeling better soon... tonsils are horrid, I had recurrant tosillitis for years and you do really get vey sick with it... poor lad.

We have the opposite problem with violance here... A beats up ds1 quite a lot. The poor child has scratch marks down the side of his face and was hit on the head repeatedly with a child's metal garden fork yesterday. A is quite aggressive when he's not getting his own way and poor ds1 rarely fights back but just sits there and looks sad while A whallops him and a bit He doesn't get cross at A though... still cuddles him and gives him toys [aww]

Hope all the sickly los are feeling better today and mos hope you're ok too

TITS Thanks. Jacob does get tonsilitis quite a bit, I wouldn't be suprised if they take them out in a few years if it continues.
He seems ok now, we've all had a nap and they are now both covered in yoghurt!

Your ds1 sounds lovely being able to put up with A's antics , you must be very proud that he is so good at regulating emotions and knows not to get angry

Oh SM - poor you and poor J. Have a lovely quite day at home today and let J have as much icecream as you can get in him - v good for temperature and tonsillitis pain (my sis used to get tonsillitis tonnes as a kid till she had them out - ice cream was the best medicine!)

Oh TITS, that's really good of your DS1 being so long suffering but really hard for you re trying to get A to not attack older kids (as you know one will bit/punch/kick/scratch back). Does he do it with his sister too or is it just his big brother? I have to admit I'm very firm with both boys on violence towards each other - no pushing, shoving, pulling hair, scratching - and give them both a good telling off when it does occur (Danny knows he's in trouble as he has a big wail and tantrum after being told off - but he does the hug and make up thing with his big brother I insist on after that).

I just wrote a whole post and my pc deleted it for no reason!

dinky... he's quite aggressive with everyone, he seems to get frustrated quickly when we don't understand what he wants and goes straight to violance. He's broken my nose and dp's glasses and hits us with toys alot. dd gets less of it becasue she's prone to hysterics and roughness too so he's wary of her... he pulled her hair a few times but ended up in tears himself and she's quite rough and bolshy in general so he doesn't play around her as much now sadly.

He's got an awful temper too, straight to hysterical tantrum on the floor if he doesn't get his way.

I'm very strict about violance too but yesterday for instance I saw him hitting ds1 with the fork and ran out and took the fork and said 'No A, No hitting' and gave ds1 a kiss and cuddle. A started his usual hysterical screaming while hanging off me but I just said 'No A, It wasn't nice to hit. Poor [ds1]' while still hugging both of them... at which point ds1 says 'Poor A crying, he can have my ball. Here A... a ball for you' He didn't exactly learn much from that then other than 'If i hit ds1 with a weapon he gives me a toy' !!!

Here, if ds1 hits or pushes, he has to go for a time out to calm down. I tell him to sit on the sofa for his time out and if he doesn't go on his own, I take him to my room and he can sit there on his own until he is calm and quiet.
Luke, only started yesterday but I suppose it has to be similar rules for everyone. I will sit him on the sofa, but will not shut him in my bedroom!

Luke also knows that's he doing something wrong from the big grin on his face.
He winds Jacob up too, so will have to try to work on that.
Jacob is now yelling "no push yay-up" at Luke

Oh Tulips, my friend's second son is like that - its really hard work and v wearing on the parents. He did grow out of it abit as he got older and could express what he wants more, but he's still pretty erm forceful. He is a really bright kid though so I suspect alot of it was frustration when he was younger. Doesnt make it any easier for you guys to deal with though...