DEC 08 - Welcome to the house of ill - We're riding a poonami

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This was the only thing I could remember some saying should be the next title!

Daisy you are right to be peed off.

we should've all planned a get together and done something ourselves! dh is working and we are watching the £ so I will be instructing ahead of time not to do flowers etc. Might go for a cheeky afternoon pub 1 x unit for the preggo girl type drink - just to get out. Dh is working the morning though.
I have asked mil twice if anything is happening on Sunday and she has been really weird about it so not sure we will be going to hers which is strange perhaps she doesn't want to step on toes and presume now that I'm a mother too, but can't really work it out.

Anyway, must get sorted.

Mom, really looking forward to reading your piece but just wanted to dash on for now and say a couple of things (will catch up properly later)

• Katie, didn't mean to chuck any sort of spanner in the works - I mean, I have NO idea how much work the people who bought it may have done on it since 2006 - they may done have an absolute stack! Also if many more people are interested in it, obviously THAT has a bearing too (as does the fact that your parents want it so much. If it's their 'forever' house, as Kirstie is always saying, obviously the value of it will appreciate in time). I reckon they should see the other house anyway, and if you are at 610 and the vendors want 615, what about offering to split the difference at 612,500? A lot of pressure on you, though, must be tricky.

Daisy, I am not expecting a big fuss tomorrow either. DP is very haphazard about these things. Tbh, I would be thrilled with a card and a small bunch of daffs (which I adore), but I think I will be lucky! Cards are important to me, I wish he could get that right as it's not hard or expensive, but I think he does appreciate me really and I am sure your DH does, he's just in a bad place. (Also, some men are just not good at this stuff. Don't ask me why, but they aren't). Anyway, I think you are brilliant to have kept everything running the way you have over recent months and if ANYONE deserves a treat on Mothering Sunday, it's you, so, a really nice bunch of spring flowers, a box of spa treats and a spot of pink cheerfulness would be what I would send to you in an ideal world.

I have a card downstairs that MIL has sent for me, which is nice of her but a bit odd. Mind you, I bought her card and present because I knew DP wouldn't get it together and it would cause ructions

Oh, and before I dash off, as a random example of how weird men actually are, DP was telling me how he had a lift with someone else from chambers yesterday, a very nice youngish barrister, who apparently told DP what nice tits I'd got. DP thought he should pass this on. Er...right. I asked how this arose in conversation, or was it perhaps appropos of nothing. "Oh no," said DP, "we were originally talking about the tits of a wife of one of the solicitors we know." Fantastic Although I will take any compliments gladly these days.

Sorry about the eye Effie. I'm surprised DS2 hasn't broken my nose he has backwards head butted it so many times. One problem with cosleeping is bring nose butted in the middle of the night, quite a shock.

Spot goats milk is easier to digest than cows milk. A friend gave a good reason for it. Baby calves have 3 stomachs baby goats have 1 therefore baby goat milk must be easier to digest for humans too. However, have you tasted it?

Daisy didn't he do this last year?

Lady, how does that make you feel, I find it a bit yukky. I asked DH and he said that was a bit out of order by his standards. He said the comment about the other guys wife was ok, just, but that about you to DP is a bit disrespectful. And he's Aussie we have very low standards of decency.

Lady that made me laugh out lout, men are wierd creatures. DH seems to think that I spend alot of time comparing his manhood with my friends husbands .
We looked at the other house today and although lovely, just isn't right so have decided to do exactly what you mentioned Lady. I'm hoping to get some fixtures and fittings thrown in to.
I bought myself some daffodils for Mothers Day today and made myself a card from DD at Play and Stay earlier in the week, and DS couldn't wait to give me my card so that's my lot!

Ladyt that tale was so funny about your DP!

Yeah veggie he did do the same last year.

We have just had a huge row and in front of the DC's. He shouted at me for 'not buying myself some flowers'. Said that he will be at work all day tomorrow while I "sit on my arse doing f*ck all, all day". He's the one that works full time, he doesn't see the kids till he gets home blah blah blah. I just lost it, said some really nasty things to him. Aarrgghhhh!

Seriously he is getting feck all for Fathers Day.

Sorry about your barney Daisy, he must have known he was asking for it saying something like that. If he believes that is all we do he is disrespecting you and his own mum.

It isn't mothers day here yet, the Netherlands has the same mothering Sunday as Australia, 2nd weekend in May. No idea why my mum believed it was something to do with when crysanthemums come out, but doesn't sound right.

Aww, Veggie, I wasn't bothered, it just made me roll my eyes... That's to say, I think it's faintly sleazy but the lad who said it is usually very nice and it wouldn't cross DP's mind that it was anything other than great that someone else was admiring his girlfriend, hence his great keenness to pass on the compliment He simply wouldn't understand that I wouldn't be delighted, and nor (probably) would be the cheery bloke who said it, so no point in taking offence. You just have to marvel at some men's utter transparency and unawareness of boundaries

Mom, I though the piece was fab, really nicely written. Hope you get more!

Spot, the goat's milk sounds like a really good compromise. I haven't had goat's milk itself but obviously goat's cheese is yummy and I once had strawberry flavoured goat's milk ice cream, which was lovely.

Hope the baby Jams are on the mend.

Summer, I know what you mean about trusting what estate agents say. Some of them are really bullshitty, and what that one has said to you sounds a bit sus to me...but I could be wrong.

Oh Effie, your poor eye!

Got taken for lunch today. I think I will call that my Mother's Day treat and leave it at that

oh daisy so sorry. that sounds horrible Your dh really is beign selfish at the moment. I guess it's still early days with his grief, and that must have a huge impact on his thoughts and behaviour, but I hope he soon realsises that you are being so wounded in the process. Don't beat yourself up about saying nasty things to him - sounds like he deserves it. I think men see things very differently and are quite useless (apart from veggie's dh who is romantic and sensitive and thoughtful and can juggle a bit!) and we definitely go through patches where it's easier and patches where it's harder. I imagine you'll look back in a year and wonder where you got the strength to fight through this - but you will get through it. Was dh shouty before his mum died? Wish you and the dcs could come round to mine for dinner tomorrow.

X-posted with you, Daisy. Oh no, sorry about the row It sounds like he is just feeling really negative at the moment (obviously). Any hope of dobbing him in to his supportive mate whilst he is at work tomorrow, so he can have a quiet word? Cos...no one wants to buy their own flowers - and you really do deserve better treatment. I see that the whole idea of Mothering Sunday is hitting a raw nerve with him at the moment, but if he was like it last year...However, like I say, some men can't do this stuff, so, maybe you should buy yourself a little treat or do something nice with the DCs tomorrow. Will you see your own Mum? I know it's hard but try to push his negativity out of your mind for now. He's just being a twit. Your DCs would make it special for you if they could!

just want to say too that I'm thinking of those of you who've lost your mums. Tomorrow must be another of those days, like birthdays and anniversaries, which stirs so many emotions. Hope you're all ok.

Have put the boys to bed now. But had to tell you about DS2. He & I had a bath while DS1 & DH finished watching the Arsenal game. After his bath I dried him up then told him to run out and scare daddy & veggieboy. So off he went in the nudey and when he came around the couch to them, roared with his arms up, it was so cute. Then he was so excited he started running on the spot, he did it for ages, he looked so funny just running really fast on the spot. He's going to have rock hard thighs. He has also started saying woof woof when he sees a dog, which is nice but he still does not call me mama! Do you think it's because I'm always around so he doesn't need to call me. Anyway he is so terribly cute at the moment I could just eat him.

Veggie that is lovely. I agree the lack of mummy is frustrating but he will say it eventually. I suspect as you are never far he's not felt the need.

Daisy, am sorry that DH is being a pain again. Hope you have a lovely day anyway. Can you do a bit of online shopping for a treat? Agree that it's rubbish to have to buy your own present, but better that than no present. Hope you have a good day with the kids.

Am sitting at work in a suit waiting to go to teach drafting. I always panic about how long it will take me to drive here so get up super early and then arrive with nothing to do for 2 hours.

Am loving hearing everyone's stories - Summer's and Katie's house adventures, poor Effie's eye (ouch - hope you are OK), MOM's article, which I loved and of course dear Lady T's tits. I am probably a bit old fashioned but I would not really like anyone discussing my tits with DH and him repeating this to me. Thank God that they are not likely to (in terms of fab tits) and I am sure he'd not pass on anything negative. Mind you, I am wearing a proper bra today, not a comfy nursing one, so they do look ok as opposed to their normal way of looking rather sorry for themselves. I have had some of my nursing bras since Lucy was born - 5 years! You can imagine how tatty they are but SO comfortable.

Just wanted to say happy mother's day to you all and esp thinking of those who have lost their mums and for whom today may be a hard one. Take care. Back later.

Happy Mother's Day everyone

Happy mother's day everyone .

My days of surprise presents are over, DS1 came in yesterday from shopping with DH telling me all about the chocolates they had bought! He also brought a lovely bur slightly sinister card from nursery (it has a photo of him looking like something from the Shining).

Happy mothers day ladies nothing here will have to wait til may for my scary school moeder's dag card!

We are having a lazy day in front of the telly so far. DH has done his back so not much happening. Might take the boys into town to buy a few new clothes for myself. DS1 is actually helpful for buying clothes. He is very honest, but very sweet.

Happy Birthday Dec 08 Mums! I hope you are having lovely days.

DH has done well. I had two lovely hand made cards drawn by DD1 (one had the cutest drawing of me and her "being friends"). Plus I got a framed photo of the girls and a lie-in. Off to MiL's now for scarey gathering of DH's extended clan.

My phone rarely let's me post when our thread gets over about 700 posts so I am mainly lurking at the mo. Will do proper catch-up soon.

Happy Mothers Day everyone!

Thinking of those missing their own Mums today.

I am surprised that DH actually pulled something out of the bag today! He is in Edinburgh watching the rugby with mates (big mark against), but hid a present and called me this morning to tell me where it was. Very surprised! A facial and a set of Ren products (my fave).

LOVING the sun. Please can winter officially be over now?

Well, for all my whinging to you all yesterday, DP came up with a large bunch of flowers, a nice card and some handcream. Admittedly it was all purchased late morning today, but I am not going to hold that against him.

We had (one of) DD's godmothers round for lunch as her son is at university in Durham and she is all alone, and I think she really appreciated it.

We also took her round to show her the new house and there are lovely snowdrops in the garden and they looked so sweet.

A boring/technical question: does anyone have underfloor heating? We are thinking of having it in the kitchen as the tiles might be quite cold, but is it worth it?

Oh, and happy mothering Sunday to all, if I didn't already say so.

LadyT we have underfloor heating in the bathroom. It is electrical rather than hot water. I would say it is worth it, if you are having new tiles laid it is probably only an extra few hundred pounds as they just set the wires into the mortar before laying the tiles. It doesn't make the tiles warm, but it definitely takes the chill off. I would definitely do it again in both a kitchen and a bathroom. Tiles are really cold. Hot water underfloor heating is another story - properly warm and makes a real difference to the heat of the room, but much more complicated to lay.

Happy Mother's Day everyone! We had a lovely day, a lie in til 9.30 and then breakfast in bed with my eldest 2 snuggled up (L was back in bed for her nap). Finally got up having watched a movie with them all about 11.30 and went for a boozy lunch with friends and their two DC. DH was very hungover from last night - and certainly hadn't pulled any great presents out of the bag (and only school cards from DD1 and DS - so poor L was unrepresented).
Daisy - sorry Dh is being an a*se. As LadyT says - its not on to go and buys one's own flowers. That is NOT the point.
Happy Mother's Day to you all. I send you virtual spa days and Dermalogica proucts galore because we at least see what hard but lovely work it is being mothers.

LadyT - the electrical ufh is great for small areas like bathrooms (but even then can wrack up your utility bills). I love the "proper" water based system for kitchens but it is quite £££ to install (although v cost effective to run, better than normal rads) and you need somewhere to have the manifold (the bit of kit it runs off - about the size of a case of wine). FB me if you need recommendations of companies that intall, I specify quite a bit of ufh so could bore you forever.

Thank you, that is really helpful. We can't have the water based kind due to complexities of plumbing and also, because of the beams in the kitchen, electric ufh would probably 'lose' us another inch of height so really unsure as to whether it is worth bothering...We need to mull it over.

Lots of love to all.

Just a quicky. Happy Mothers Day -

Mom I haven't really kept up very well but what made you move back to the UK after only moving home for 15 months? Sorry if you have already mentioned that.

Lady, dh put underfloor heating in the bathroom of the flat - it was the electrical kind, but our tiles were very thick travertine and we didn't use the special insulating tiles that you can lay down first to make them heat up quicker - therefore it works well still however takes a while to heat up, therefore probably uses loads of electricity. We didn't use it all that much though, as it was warm enough but I'd definitely have it in our next place. I'm terrible with coldness!

LadyT we have water based UfH all throughout the downstairs. It is fab! We have an electric pad in the upstairs bathroom which is a bit rubbish takes ages to heat up. Can you get heaters fitted to the base of your kitchen units to blow out warm air.

Daisy sorry your DH is being a knob jockey. Go and buy something lovely online.

Lovely cards and gifts this morning. But the boys well DS1 is really poorly with the D&V bug. Just had to completely strip him down as he is so distressed by the poo he has held it in all day rather than go on the toilet and has exploded all over his bed and out his bedtime nappy

Sun what do you lecture in that means working on Sunday?

Happy end of Mothers Day everyone.

That should have read sybil not sun