DEC 08 - Welcome to the house of ill - We're riding a poonami

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This was the only thing I could remember some saying should be the next title!

I'm annoyed and irritated for silly reasons and I am going to list them in an attempt to feel less annoyed. Please feel free to skip. I don't remember profound irritation as a symptom of early pregnancy. I have it in spades with this one.

1. I am hungry and want supper and have to wait for DP who won't be back for at least another half an hour

1. I really want chip shop chips drenched in vinegar and battered fish (I don't even eat fish) but won't eat any of that because of the calorie content

1. I am bricking it about the course a week on Monday

1. I am bored of feeling tired and a bit sick

1. The house stuff is moving really slowly

1. My writing is going really slowly

1. I can't be bothered to join in with either of the October threads though I did half heartedly try but now given up (there are two separate ones, it's daft) and wondering if I should join the September one anyway as that is when the child will be delivered even though official due date early Oct

1. My hair is a right mess

Er....that's it Hope you are all having less irritating evenings.

Please someone come and shake me vigorously. I have gone off coffee. I don't think that helps. And I have got heartburn already when I am sure that I didn't get it last time until really late on. I felt quite normal last time for ages. This pregnancy is going to be looooonnnng. Still 4 weeks to the 12 week scan!

LadyT....my advice....

1. Eat fish and chips, its not everyday right??(I am drooling at the thought now)
2. Do not worry about the course. You are fab and you will be fab and do very well!
3. Don't join the Oct threads we are better stay here in our warm bussom
4. Bet your hair is not as bad as mine
5. Err..thats it, I'm sure I haven't made you feel any better, but hopefully DP will be home soon and you can eat which might ease the sickness a bit

X Posts...forgot to shake you

Thanks so much DD There isn't a chippy for miles and DP is on a big diet as well so I might have to wait until I go to Mum's tomorrow (i am there until Monday).

I would eat a snack but I have already had carrots and cheese and there is nothing else I want anyway. Ha! Not even a glass of wine. Just don't fancy it (just as well really). Sigh....

Where is WG? She hasn't been on for yonks.

Oh, and that reminds me, Daisy, re: holidays for your DH - I do endless competitions in Take a Break magazine. It is a horrible mag with horrible stories but it is full of competitions and we keep doing them in the vain hope we are going to win lots of trips. It all started because DP was work avoiding on a train and picked up a copy someone had left and now we keep buying it all the time. But HE actually reads the stories - a lot of them are crime related and he loves to get on his high horse about the inaccuracies and bias. The puzzles melt your brain but as they have about £35k worth of prizes in every issue, they are worth doing. I am wasting my life I could have written tons of novels and plays and scripts if it wasn't for my obsession with trying to win holidays.

Ha ha that is so funny. You know my MIL always bought Take A Break...I'm going to start buying it!!

Cheer up our LadyT. That is funny about Take a Break.

You know what, if you are craving chips, I would normally suggest having them, but I know how much you are really trying to watch your weight. But maybe you need some more carbs? I know carbs are the enemy and all but you are pregnant, I think you should go a bit easy on yourslef? It is not surprising you are grumpy if you are denying yourself food when early pregnant (I would not have survived)

Why are there two oct threads? I think you should stay here. I haven't got time for an antenatal thread. Anyway I don't want to talk endlessly about scans and heartburn this time round. I am obviously being boring, but I can't be bothered!

Got a quote from the plumber yet? (guessing the answer is no....). We are thinking of moving....well we're just starting to get house valued etc. Bah, gonna be a right hassle but will be fun to look for new houses!

kayz sorry you are feeling down too. You will feel seriously better when the weather gets a bit better (surely March must be better??). Running is a good idea for weight loss and feeling a bit more alive. Sympathies on the fat thing.....losing weight is boring and shit, but you will get there if you don't give up. Half a stone this year is good going!

Hello ladies I should be in bed as have a rotten cold and just feel uurrrgh. I'm loving having my friend here but having so many kids about is draining and now I have this sodding cold. I cannot breathe through my nose at all. DH has made me a hot toddy bless him with a lemsip as we didn't have any lemons. I'm sipping it now, unfortunately it has aspartame in it which doesn't go well with Scotch.

My friends DS & DD where better today no hitting but her DS opened the front door and let DS2 out apart from danger of the nearby main road he had no socks or jacket on. I was quite upset but my friend kind of brushed it off, and made out it wasn't really her DS's fault because he had just left the door ajar and DS2 had opened it himself! She has admitted though that her DS does seem to have some behavioural ishoos. He is a lovely thing I just hate to see my boys treated badly that's all. I'm going to be a nightmare MIL.

Kayz sorry your feeling low. You mentioned sometime ago that you wanted to do History, is that still on the cards.

Lady I think your amazing, that course sounds quite stressful. It's difficult for you when you already have to prove your place in the course but I for one believe in your abilities and look forward to hearing how well you get on.

Syb, I've never met you but in my mind you are simply divine looking so your hair is of course exquisite! Did you get my phone number a few posts back?

Daisy well done getting to 5 kms, my training for the macmillian run is not going at all well, someones sickness seems to always get in the way. But good on you bet you feel good for it. Also with all this insanity going on around you a run to clear your head can keep you sane.

Sorry I can't remember anyone elses post very bad of me, but I need to go and curl up with my boys. Thankfully DH is home tomorrow so will have a little lie in to make me better.

Thanks Summer. I am fine - only suffering from feebleness and a low annoyance threshold. If ever DP misbehaves I have always got his T a B habit to reveal to the wider public His endless tut tutting and outraged exclamations about the tawdry details therein are almost as entertaining as the thought of winning holidays. And the top tips have made us weep with laughter (eg, cover a used kitchen roll cardboard tube in glitzy paper and use it as a repository for "all your wristwatches".) It only costs about 70p. Actually, DP is on the phone to a plumber right now. We are so desperate this guy lives 100 miles away. Another one turned the job down this morning and we have got a partial quote from another fella.

I need to take more exercise, I have been slack the last couple of days, I feel like a bit fat flump. I do eat carbs, I just try to keep them to a minimum...but as you know, for some reason they take the edge of this sickliness.

Oct threads - someone started one in the Pregnancy section and then there is one in the Ante-Natal section, and never the twain shall meet I don't like the vibe much on either of them so I think I will stay away. I too find the endless examination of every last twinge and laying it on thick about every minor symptom just too tiring (says the woman who has just done that herself - ha!) Exciting about the house hunt though - do you fancy a bit more space, a different area?

X-posted with you, Veg. I think you are v tolerant of the other kids. Sorry you are still feeling rough - that cold is dragging on. Thanks for the encouragement about the course. I must be brave. Trouble is, I have realised I feel incredibly 'out of the zone' and for this I will need to be super in the zone. Hope you manage to have a good sleep. Right, should drag my self-pitying bones off to bed! Maybe I can summon up the energy for a spot of T a B

Oooooooooooooooh, spooky, I have just texted you Veg then I read your post! Let me have your address and a plethora of goodies from the big smoke will wing its way to you and your menfolk. If there is anything you are craving, let me know and I'll gladly pop it in for you.

Now Lady T, you gorgeous girlie you, if you are having writer's anxiety, think how much we have all enjoyed your posts over the last 2 years. I have chuckled and been moved by many posts of yours and have relayed them to my dear husband, himself a humble tabloid hack wordsmith, who has also been impressed. So nae worries pet. Eat the chips. Baby needs food. At least your hair doesn't make you look like a sixties lesbian. I bet DH will start singing "Downtown" to me when I get in (we've been here on the hairstyle before) and I have to remind him of the difference between petula and dusty. Chin up, lovely, we are all roooting for you.

Summer, I think it is fab that you are sticking around and letting us enjoy your preg with you. I hate being preg as I feel rubbish but love tiny babies and the excitement of it all and so am thrilled to have preg lady updates.

Hope you are OK, WG, and others who are MIA. Am trying to avoid bidding on silly things on Ebay, while reading a mag and listening to Mozart on youtube. Am making a mental list of things to put on my waterproof Ipod for swimming and am disproportionately excited. Plus all children have been asleep since 7. Hope they are not ill or brewing something.

You have a waterproof iPod sybs? Tell me more. Can you swim with it? I'm a big fan of Dusty myself. Am sure haircut looks great. I'm finally having mine done tomorrow. Day off, no kids but have a cold and the friend I was planning to meet has a bug too and has cried off .

Ladyt and Summer: I think it's nice of you to stay with us! I'm very happy to hear about pg minutiae, esp as unlikely to have another. Summer: have you had any further thoughts on the poss vbac?

Veggie: sorry you're still feeling bad. Good for your DH providing whisky in time of need. We have cracked open the sloe gin we made last year and it tastes like it should be good for colds... Will try this eve!

Love the take a break stories, all our bad habits are coming out now. Am waiting for veggie to confess to a liking for late-night kebabs. Any why are there no square brackets on this phone?

It may seem like Siberia out there but I have seen some feeble snowdrops. Spring is definitely on the way!

Have finally added some new photos of DS2 to fb. Guess which one I took! Even the new camera phone doesn't turn me into a whizz photographer.

Oh Lady - I hope you're feeling better this morning - things often look better in the light of day. What did you have for dinner in the end?

Ooh, a waterproof ipod sounds amazing - I find swimming so dull, would love to be able to listen to my ipod as well!

I don't yet read TAB, but am deeply in love with heat magazine. Although recently it is becoming a bit tabloidy and judgemental, so less keen than I used to be. Although it's not like it was ever quality!!!

Veggie - are you feeling any better? I would be so much less patient than you have been - it's really tough when you don't want to offend a friend, but nor do you want your own children to be hurt.

Right, I've got a bit of a rant - feel free to ignore this and not read it, but just want to get it off my chest:

Our nannyshare family stepped a bit over the mark last night and James had a bit of a go at the mother (we'll call her Beryl for the purposes of this story!)!! All quite exciting - he and she arrived at their house at the same time last night and DD had a red patch on her face and the same two spots near her mouth, which were a bit redder than normal, as they always are at the end of the day. When Beryl walked in, saw her and said "Oh my GOD, what's wrong with her, Barbara (not her daughter's real name) get away from her", then started quizzing the nanny on what was wrong with Whizz, had she eaten a full meal, what was her mood like, did she have a temperature etc. My DH was standing there, absolutely overwhelmed by this extraordinary display of a) paranoia and b) lack of any awareness that he was actually in the room while she was ranting on to the nanny. Whizz was clearly absolutely fine, but a bit upset by the tone of voice of Beryl. DH just said "For God's sake, Beryl, I am sick and tired of my daughter being under a f*cking microscope, I'm sure she's absolutely fine".

I think he'd just reached the end of his patience as this ridiculous worrying has reached a point of no return. I have spent more time in the doctor's surgery or hospital because of their worrying than I ever would have done if it wasn't for them! I think we've bent over backwards to keep them happy - just yesterday morning at the doctors and they'd said she didn't have chickenpox! So well done, DH - HURRAH! He then rang her later to apologise for his tone, but said that they've really got to calm down as Whizz is fine.

I rang them this morning and said she's fine and we're bringing her round and said I actually can't take her to the doctor any more as I can't take the time off work to do it and if I keep on turning up, they'll report me to social services!!! Honestly, it's driving us potty. Whizz does have a few scratches on her face and neck - but they're not serious and I am NOT going back to doctor for it again!

Just all seems a little ridiculous. The father apologised to me this morning for being paranoid parents and I didn't deny it but sort of laughed and said not to worry, although I think they know how we really feel now!

I do understand people worry about their children, of course - as do I. But I think you have to have limits on it, or it gets ridiculous; you can't wrap them in cotton wool in case she might contract something possibly one day! Sorry, rant over.

Just extraordinary. And am feeling v proud of DH for having a word with them, knowing how stressed I've been about it!

PS James is DH - oops, didn't mean to name him!

Good for your dh beans. Why are they doing a nannyshare if they don't want their precious baby to be exposed to other people's potential germs? I would have thought it one of the advantages to shared childcare.

It's a bit weird, isn't it? Never mind! Only just under 3 months to go!

Beans - they'll soon get over it if they have any more children - what are they going to do, banish their DD?

LadyT - sorry for your frustrations. You should cut yourself some slack if you can though. Pregancy is tough and second time round can be harder as you have one already. I am sure you will rise to the occasion when you get to the course - I've no doubt you will hold your own. In any case, if it wasn't a bit of a challenge, there wouldn't be any purpose in doing it?

Veggie - a houseful of kids is not easy, especially when you are not feeling great. Do hope you feel better soon.

Beryl! I am most amused you named DH when you'd tried so hard with the other names. Oh beans you are funny.

ladyT How about potato wedge type things done in the oven with a splash of olive oil. I always think they are not too bad health wise. Am I kidding myself?

On the writing front, I'm writing a report for our project at the moment and am finding it really hard going, however, I just went into my thesis to find a reference and was surprised to find it reads really well, all professional-like , so ladyT why not get out some of your previous writing and reassure yourself. You write beautifully on here and your MOS peice was excellent.

veggie Hope you feel better soon. Have you tried hot water inhalation? A few drops of olbas oil and it really does help get things moving.

Must work, here I am trying to motivate LadyT and not doing my own work . Byeee. Oh that reminds me DD said bye bye cat when we let the cat out this morning! Right, must go!

Well done your DH Beans. People like that drive me NUTS. As Effie says why do nannyshare if you are that precious. My SiL is like that - she has a childlock on every single kitchen cupboard door??

Hugs to you LadyT - I second what everyone else says about your fab writing skills. Hope you get well looked after my your Mummy.

II am going through a phase of really mmissing my Mum.My Dad is being completely useless. In the tube home from our meet up on Monday night I was sat opposite a lovely copuple in their ate sixties who had been to the theatre and I wished they were my Mum and Dad. How sad is that!?

Sybs laughing at your Dusty hair (but sure you look fab!!). In our house our nickname for her was Rusty Springboard. Am considering an MN name change as hate Turniphead. Maybe that could be the one??

Hugs to you Veg - hope you get well soon. It can be so stressful having kids to stay when they have very different parenting styles/boundaries.

effie the pictures are fab!

kayz hope you are feeling more chipper today also.

Hello.

LadyT hope you are feeling better today. You are a great writer. Your article was brilliant and I'm sure the course will be fine.

Go Mr Beans(so tempted to call him Mr Bean) children get ill. It's an unfortunate fact of life. So they should either put up with it or just have their own nanny.

Veggie I wish I had your restrain. I think I would have gone mad if someone had let D out of the house and we live in a cul de sac with about 10 houses.

About the history thing. I applied for the course but they wouldn't accept me as I don't have the time apparently. Due to working and having the boys. They said to try again when all the kids are at school. So in about 5 years then!!!

Feeling a bit better today. I'm very scared as I'm not sure I'm in love with DH anymore. It's terrifying and not quite sure what to do. We can't afford to go to relate or anything like that. I love him very much but not in love with him iyswim?

There are some threads at the minute about how to fall back in love with someone so going to read them and hope they help me.

Gosh sorry. I don't mean to go on but I feel like I can offload here.

Ooh, LadyT - got a brilliant recipe that's nearly as nice as fish & chips (although not quite as gratifyingly greasy!) sweet potato chips - it's delicious. Then to make up for the fish, you can get cod loin, roll it in seasoned flour, then fry it for about 4 mins on each side in sunflower oil. When it's done, pop it on a warmed plate, then add butter to the frying pan, and allow it to cook for a few mins til it turns gold. Then take it off the heat and add some chopped parsley and the juice of about half a lemon. Oh my gosh, it's absolutely delicious! And it's a (bit) healthier fish and chips. I have it with spinach as well, which makes me feel good!

Oh wow, Kayz - you poor love. That is a big old admission to make to yourself and I have to say, I admire you for your honesty. I'm sorry I cross-posted with you, I hope you're ok.

I don't really have many words of advice as am not a marriage counsellor, but I would say that I think a lot of marriages/relationships go in highs and lows and I think it's completely natural to fall out of love with your partner. But I also think it's natural to fall back in love with them again - you just need to give yourself some time - it might be weeks and it might be months, but it can happen.

I also think that because you have children, there is so much emphasis on other things, that we rarely have time for eachother. The fact that you love him very much is such a positive one and something that you can build on. My one piece of advice would be to just keep that in mind and give it time - concentrate on what it is you love about him now - and what you first fell in love with him for - and maybe try to recapture that. See if a friend or your Mum or someone will have the boys for a day and a night and go away somewhere for a bit. It doesn't have to be somewhere expensive, but a little B&B round the corner, where you can go somewhere for some dinner and a night away from the house might just be a step towards remembering the early days and why you fell in love. Try to get some romance back.

I am really sorry if I'm speaking total tosh - but I hope I'm not. Thinking of you massively.

xxxx

Gosh so difficult to keep up!

Lady - I did chuckle at your list of what was annoying you. I'm tempted to make a list myself. Actually I think I will later. We've had more crap news from our flat in that the roof is leaking and there is also a gas leak to the building - perfect, more money we haven't got, so been putting out fires left and right thismorning trying to stall on bills etc. But anyway, I can't help you with the fish and chips but you made me hungry! Might be able to sort out a great hairdresser for you if you can get over to me as my friend does my hair and is quite reasonable (unless you hate my hair then I'd advise not)
I know what you mean about the Ante natal threads. I am finding that a lot of them are 1st time pregnancies and it's hard work trawling through all the first time symptoms, worries, concerns, etc so i'm finding myself lurking over there more than posting and might go to a meet up if they have one but otherwise I'm not sure it's worth keeping up with all the first timer talk! I'm also on the cusp as dc2 will be born on the last working day of July if they ok that so might swap and lurk on the July thread once I have the consultant meeting. Love your photo on Face book - she is beautiful - can't half tell she is your dd!
Speaking of entering competitions. I've become addicted to gmtv and all those morning show competitions to win 25K and a holiday etc. I'm convinced I'm one of only a few entering and i'm not sure what I'm more about - the fact that I enter them or the fact that I obviously watch too much morning housewifey type tv, and that coupled with my obsession with reality tv crap doesn't make me appear too intelligent

Kayz you are feeling down about dh etc. Not sure what I can advise there. Is there fighting or just general drifting apart stuff going on?

Sybil, gee I laughed at your post. When can we have a photo of your sixties lesbian look I bet its not bad at all but you really do make me laugh!

Beans good on your dh - beryl sounds a bit over the top! I hope you get her sorted out soon and all is well

Turnip thanks for your input on my cranky baby after nap thread. Yesterday was a proper grumpoff and I put it down to multipl ethings things in the end and now i'm so confused that I don't know what his problem might be! he went down for his usual afternoon nap and then woke up grumpy and didn't snap out of it at all I did have 2 friends over with babies of the same age roughly and I'm not sure if he was just overwhelmed or what as he settled when everyone left

He is very shy / quiet by nature and I'm really hoping this isn't because he doesn't interact with any other kids by going to a nursery or anything? I am trying to see friends with babies etc but I think I need to get out to some group activites more. I think I will look into it as I've been really slack lately being pregnant and all, and blaming that, however I'm feeling fine now albeit fat, so I've got no excuse. I really think though, that he'd be like that regardless of if he went to nursery as he def has dh's reserved type personality. The other two babies were taking his toys off him so he'd just go and get another one, then they'd take that and he'd just cry and want me to pick him up all afternoon. He was really sad but would never snatch the toy back

My back is fine thanks all who asked. dh has now fitted the gate to the bottom which was previously not being used, so now we have a top and bottom gate and he can only go up when supervised therefore no need to run up and get him back every 5 seconds and risk slipping over since i'm always doing ten things at once!

back at work tomorrow (eek) but only 2 days then 5 off
I'm determined to put a few photos up on FB as I've been slack in that department too so will make an effort!!

Right I've probably x posted with loads as this has taken so long! Hello Veggie hope you are feeling better over in your house?