November 09 babies are growing up quick, and mummy's getting used to getting covered in sick!

[PreggoK8]

Hope this has worked...

Hobnob I'm really lucky that ds is at school and dh has flexible hours at work, that means I can do things like go for this run this morning. It will all end when I go back to work though

With the running, there is no way I could get out and do it in the evenings so I go at 7am, it's lovely at that time in the morning (a previously unknown time to me I have to say, even when I was working!) - quiet out,(ie no one around to laugh at me ) lots of birdsong, frost on the cars and a really fresh feeling in the air. Oddly enough, having done the run (I only do 15 mins) I then seem to have a lot more time to have breakfast, feed Hedy, get ds sorted for school etc. I feel a lot calmer and more controlled than when I was hanging around in bed.

As for interior design I am hopeless- everything in the house is cream and even if I look at a colour chart I still end up choosing between all the various shades of cream!!

Hi all,

Hope everyone is having fun at the meet-up.

hobnob I'm with you on the packing up clothes refusing to think Millie might be my last baby! Although, I have given all of ds' old baby clothes away.

Feeling rough today, have got Millies cold and gunky eyes, luckily the pils have ds today so it's just me and Millie who seems to be having a 3 hour nap, go Millie! Mind you, she was up every hour or so for feeding last night so probably catching up on her zzzz's, hope she sleeps tonight.

I'm off to Switzerland on Wednesday so hopefully I'll feel better by then, we are going to a friends wedding and I can't wait!

hobnob I'm here! Lovely pic of your girls on fb.

I hope the meet up is going well and I look forward to some pics on fb, hope someone remembered a camera!!

I'm having a frustrating day with baby sick. I actually went through 3 vests before I was able to dress Ethan without him being sick on the first layer!! Then I just got a bib on in time to collect the next delivery. Does everyone's bf babies have this? I'm already careful to avoid milk and ice cream, garlic bread and anything too spicy. It's starting to get really annoying now.

DWB I've been lucky with both DS' as they've never been sicky babies. Not sure what the answer is, sounds like it could be something your eating or drinking. Sorry I'm not much use

Hobnob I'm in denial.. I've packed some baby clothes, the bath, moses basket etc and put away in the loft. I very much doubt I'll get to use them again. I go through periods of really liking the idea of a 3rd baby, but then I think about having my freedom back, spending more quality with DH. If I were in my twenties then I would feel I have more time on my side.

We are going to need a new thread soon.. Any ideas for the name??

Just got back from a lovely lunch with DH and both DS'. It made a nice change

Helips Have a lovely time. Hope you feel better soon.

Just to say am loving the pictures of the Bristol get together

I agree sirboob

P.S. I can' stop smiling when I write your name.. Such a good name choice!!

Glad I can be of use Fruit

The pics are fab, looks like you all had a great time

We are not having a great time here. I don;t know whats up with Anya at the minute. Last night she cried for hours and hours and spent, well, the whole night in bed beside me, but even that didn't calm her much. And again tonight, she went to sleep at 7 and by half past she was squealing uncontrollably. ot hungry, temperature fine, don't know what is wrong but not sure I can cope with another night like last. She hasn't been any more hungry than usual, if anything she's taking less milk. Going to have her weighed tomorrow so will mention it to hv. Anybody else have this experience? She is 16 weeks today

I am in no denial whatsoever, I have kept big things like buggies, moses basket etc but everything is getting sold on ebay as she grows out of them. 2 is enough for us for those reasons you stated fruit- freedom and relationship with dh!

TOK I am also ebaying like crazy, house is full of junk as it is!
As for another, I feel like you Fruit
But don't be too as this is TMI: I asked dh last night when he was going to start pestering me for sex, since I now actually wouldn't mind being pestered for sex and if you don't get back on the horse, etc! He said (jokingly, but only half jokingly actually) 'after I've had the snip'!! I told him not to be so completely ridiculous and absurd and he said well we don't want any more children so it makes sense. And it's quite true, we have completed our family. But a teeny little voice somewhere says never say never. I think I'm being irresponsible though. I mean, I have no intention of using the pill or a coil or anything as I have spent years on the pill and hated it, and just don't like messing with the hormones... but we certainly can't afford another child and besides anything if it's going to be another big baby I don't think my body is up for it. plus, dh is knocking on and I am not sure it's fair to a child to have a very old dad. So maybe I should just let him have the snip. Just thinking aloud now..sorry!

But it's just that finality, no more babies with dh ... I wonder if we have really finished that journey....

Wook I kinda get what you mean. DP keeps saying he never wants to have any more children. And I really do (admittedly a long time in the future!). Its a stressful, tiring, exasperating experience being a mother, and I am loving every single minute of it I would hate to think I will never do this again, or be pregnant again - or have those amazing first seconds just after the birth... Will this really be my only baby? Not exactly the same, I know. But keeps coming back to me...

lovely photos . Did you call each other by your real names?

fruit I'm still losing handfuls of hair each day. It's getting to the stage where it's permanently greasy because there's not enough hair left to share it around...

My jeans have broken through at the knee . I HATE clothes shopping. Anyone know where I can get a decent pair of non-blingy chavvy jeans that aren't low rise (need them to withstand the downward pressure of my muffin top)?

Hey everyone, i survived the 'meeting with strangers from the 'net' which i heard the report on returning from lunch with brood ninja and scarlotti there were no hairy bikers, they were all proper real women with babies . They were all lovely lovely ladies, of course! and their babies were all just gorgeous, well behaved, no crying! I kept calling brood 'ninja' and ninja 'brood' I have no idea why I kept getting them mixed up, I knew who they were but kept getting them wrong! I asked ninja how the weaning was going, even though I knew it was brood who was weaning . I tried to call Scarlotti by her name but I found it weird and just kept referring to them by their MN names and I think that is why I got confused with the names, i was trying to remember too much! Scarlotti's little bigger boy was lovely and very shy! He did smile at me though, with some coaxing .

wook we are just waiting for dh's appointment for the snip. He had mentioned it before we got pregnant with Anya, saying after the next one thats it and I was gobsmacked and objected. However, our family does just feel complete now. It's tough going but I know there's light at the end of the tunnel and I just want to comfortably (financially) enjoy the dcs. Maybe if I'd had another boy I may have hankered for a girl buit who knows. Plus, I just keep telling myself my sisters will start having kids soon so I can enjoy all the good bits with them and hand them back when they start crying!

hobnob I too have a substantial muffin top but got a nice pair of jeans recently from Next. Worth a try! I must admit though, I am so sick of wearing the same things over and over. I refuse to buy any more clothes in a bigger size. I am hoping it will spur me on to get off my arse and get back into shape . It, as yet, has not happened .

Aw, lovely to hear news from the meet up. V jealous that I couldn't come, but looking forward to the London meet up already!

Had a nice day anyway, did a lovely long walk around Oxford, in the University Parks and river, with a yummy lunch in the middle with 3 other mummies and 5 babies altogether - yes, twins! So cute, a boy and a girl and their mummy said when they sleep in the cot together they get all twined up and cuddly. Bless. We had some twins on this thread didn't we? Can't remember who though. She is such an amazing mum, just calmly getting on with looking after the littlies.

hobnob I know what you mean about jeans - what is the deal with every pair having to have glitter/embroidery/other awful accompaniments on them..? I got a 'slouch' (their name) style pair from Primark instead of my mat jeans and am pleased to say they are now too big to wear without a belt But my skinny jeans are still a way away for me, sigh.

Maybe a few more walks punctuated by fewer lunches, hmm?

I'm glad I'm not alone with my thoughts for a 3rd child. Wook we can't afford another child, DH is also getting on a bit, and my body has taken a knock after this pregnancy. The idea of not reproducing again makes me feel sad. DH is happy with what we have and has made it clear he doesn't want anymore. But, he knows I'm keeping hold of baby stuff just incase! I'm also afraid of how I'll feel when my boys don't need me as much. I've put my career and life on hold to raise them. The world outside of children kind of scares me. On the flip side, talks with DH about going away for a romantic holiday when younger DS can be left with my parents, going to concerts, having nice meals, and having a SOCIAL LIFE BACK!! DC3 doesn't really fit in with all those things. The dreaded contraception talk needs to happen. I don't want to be on the pill or tamper with my body anymore. Hmmm I think DH will have to pay the GP a visit (not yet though ]

TOK forgot to say about DD. Could it be teeth, wind, reflux from something you ate? Hope you sleep tonight!

The poo explosion happened tonight. DH was going to offer to change the nappy until he opened it...

TOK,fp and wook you talk sense about #3, but I'm still so blissed out with this baby which is such a far cry from how I felt with #1 (who was an only child-type baby) that I can't imagine not feeling this way again. Coming from a family of 4 I'm a big fan of the sibling relationships in bigger families. We can't afford for me to work less than 4 days a week so it really doesn't make sense though. But I'm not thinking with my head at the moment. I want a brood!

Third babies - i sometimes think i would like another one. Not now, but maybe when these two are older, both at school maybe? But like you have all said too, we can't afford it either, not and be sure they all get good life experiences, certainly not now. We want to be able to go on holidays, and that is more affordable with two children than three for example. But who knows in the future. Right now, i am not planning another one, we shall keep the option open for now.

Reuben's hacking cough and grumbly chest was terrible in the night. I have an appt with the gp on thursday to discuss it, whether it could be an allergy or somesuch as he is perfectly fine with it, no other symptoms, other than it disturbing his sleep and sounding like darth vader, but last night worried me, as it is really thick and gurgly and he was a little upset, and I hardly slept. I really think he would sleep through better, and maybe only only wake once for a feed if he was not struggling to breath. I have propped his bed up, and turned him on his side, but scarlotti said Ioan slept better in bed with her, so i tried this, again, as it worked before and eventually he settled off and it all calmed down. Mostly in the day it is ok, it is present, but as a slight rumble in his chest, but yesterday it was much worse in the day too, but mostly it is worse at night. I have cut down milk, but not cut it out, and I have been hanging his sheets daily and hoovering daily for the last few days (apart from yesterday) in case it is dust/cats, as DH has a dust mite allergy (or that is his excuse not to change the hoover bag or go into the loft .

hobnob at the poo explosion! We have had a couple of these, the worst one was in company and the person (a relative) stood and watched me clean it up, while it went everywhere, i was so embarrassed

Reuben's hacking cough and grumbly chest was terrible in the night - should that be 'were'?

Pav poor Reuben, could it be a bit of a chest infection or have you had that checked out already? Does it affect his breathing? Here's hoping the gp can shed some light on it for you.

Well we had a better night last night...with Anya. DS on the other hand decided that we still did not deserve a good night's sleep and coughed until he was sick all over his bedcovers! Thankfully it was DH who went in first so he was lumbered with cleaning it up and I just supplied plenty of cuddles and kisses (once I'd washed him ) to the patient.

Anya is in great form this morning, babbling away. It's amazing how much a good night's sleep (only fed at 11 and 4 ) benefits them too!

Right off the try and get DH some liverpool tickets then getting ready to brave a trip to the baby clinic and into town. Hope you all had a good night. xxx

TOK he has had it on and off, mostly on since christmas. He had a cold then and had a rattly chest, GP said chest was fine (i went in 3 times in one week as it was really bad!) and then it improved and was almost gone, but never quite gone, and some days its almost ok with the odd cough and a bit of mucous, other days he brings up lots and coughs hard. At night it affects his breathing as he is so bunged up, rather than wheezing. But i don't think its a chest infection as he is absolutely fine in himself, a happy boy as always, and it doesn't seem to bother him, only at night, and he woke his normal time this morning, in a good mood (unlike me ). I am probably going to see GP this morning anyway and see what she says as its more gurgly than usual, but even while he gurgles, he is kicking his legs at baby tv (bad mummy!) and going 'ahooooo' just also sounds like a piglet!

Third babies: are wonderful but hard work! I don't think I'd quite realised how it would be with number three. But it is very, very, very rewarding if you want to go for it. I think three is a lovely number. I feel like a mother duck with her duckling sometimes!

We've just found out that DH's brother may have MS. I know nothing about MS except from watching The West Wing. I need to do some googling. He won't find out until he's had results of some scans but has a 50% chance that it is MS. Weird thing is DH's parents knew about this on Sunday when we went there for their Ruby Anniversay dinner and honestly gave nothing away and were all happy, happy all day. I don't get how people can be so good at keeping up appearances. I'm just not like that.

Hi all - just found this thread. Hope everyone is doing ok. All bit mad here, finding 3 kids really tough (alot to do with fact DS still isn't walking or talking much at 21 months so is a nightmare) and have endedup with some PND, seen HV but have appointment on thurs to see doc for some happy pills!! To top it all off Martha & I both have a stomach bug at the moment, poor thing really wasn't happy and then during the night had huge nappy explosions! Very of your meet up- looks like you have a great time. Better go - kids are trying to kill each other!

cross posts with you becky - think the jump from 2 to 3 is harder than the 1 to 2 smehow - i think it's jus cause you don't have as many hands as children and i feel pulled in all directions. But hoping in thelong run it'll be great.

Sorry to hear about you BIL x

Hey beepbeep, welcome back! As you probably know, once ds does start walking and talking you'll be wishing it the other way! Its good that you have recognised the PND and are getting help with it. I know that some of the ladies on here have experience and may be able to offer you some good advice!

BBL I'm sure DH's parents thought they were doing the right thing by keeping it under wraps, until they know more. I'm sure thats not how they were feeling inside. MS can come in varying degrees of severity and it really depends how advanced it is. In saying that, of course it is going to be tough on all of you and he will need alot of support which I'm sure you are all willing to provide. My aunt has MS and I think I remember someone else on the thread having a relative with MS too. Hope he's OK [hugs]