November 09 babies are growing up quick, and mummy's getting used to getting covered in sick!

[PreggoK8]

Hope this has worked...

tok thanks, didn't think of that, just used the spoon from calpol box - i do bf. She's fine, all is forgiven, I hope. Started to have gassy tummy recently, not sure what I'm eating to cause it.

Hope the potty training goes well. And enjoy that drink, though I completely get the wanting bed thing...

sleepless your hospital stay must've been awful, hope Charlotte improves now you know what the problem is x

Venus another tasty recipe, will definitely give it a whirl. Thanks

So much for babies turning their heads when they're sick. Ethan just had projectile vomit while lying on the sofa being dressed for bed after his bath. His head stayed in one position, vomit out his mouth landed straight in his face including pools in his eye sockets before I could pull him up. Sick everywhere including his eyelashes. Ended up washing his hair in the sink again. It would be funny if it hadn't smelt so awful! And the crazy boy just laughed when he had finished spluttering.

Skorpion echoing TOK the syringe is the thing, a little bit in the side of the mouth at a time.

Weaning I went and bought a bit of kit today as I had some Boots points. It's on 3 for 2 in there at the mo. Learning lessons from last time, I got...

• a wipeable cover for the table
• a top to toe waterproof bib

-disposable covers for the floor (not eco friendly but definitely floor friendly!)

• nothing that didn't have a lid, and no big bowl that didn't have a compartment under the lid for the spoon so as not to have to wrap up separate spoons
• spout cups with nice big curved handles on both sides.

I think I'm going to get one of those 'turn any chair into a high chair' thingies as well. Nothing worse than going somewhere with no high chairs/ high chair but no space for it/ filthy ecoli ridden high chair

What I am NOT going to use again is a stupid 'doidy cup'- was warned against evil spout cups by lentil weaver well meaning NCT person and told to get one of these instead. Cue spillages everywhere, confused spluttering, soaking WET baby But I am sure they work well for some people's babies....

excruciating boob chomping Having a lovely happy feed last night when... aaaarrrrggghhhh, two hard little gums clamped so hard on my nipple I thought it was actually going to be bitten off. Now it keeps happening. Teething?? It's agony- my boob looks like a

TOK enjoy your drink! I'm quite jealous, but off to get into my snuggly warm bed now...! Your potty training day sounds pretty successful. The first day I ever tried ds we had gone through every pair of pants he owned, and the sofa covers and the pushchair and every pair of trousers so that by about 3pm we had to get a nappy on. Utter disaster! It was hit and miss for a fair while, even with smarties as a reward!

wook I have read advice on bf while baby is teething when they start to chow down on your nipples. It says to keep an eye out for a look when baby is about to bite and to take them off before they bite. Perhaps you can shed some light on this "look"?

Lol Don'tWorryBaby I have seen it! It is a thoroughly menacing look, -hard to distinguish from the normal Scorpio 'flashy eye' (sorry Ninjacat old habit!)

But try getting an iron jawed Scorpion child to unlock from your nipple when they have got the idea in mind that they want to bite it off!! Still, maybe losing a finger would be better than losing a nipple!

Right, must sleep.

Wonder how you got on on your journey BBL? Hope tomorrow is lovely.

Thoroughly menacing... Easy to identify I hope! Maybe my Sagittarius baby will be kinder to mummy's nipples.

OK, I suspect none of you sensible ladies are up at this time of night but I had to get this off my chest before I go to bed.

So DH and I went out for that drink and were having a perfectly pleasant evening, chatting about the kids, as you do. Dh starts going on about how he misses our old, carefree life (yawn) and says he wishes he could go back and re wire me. Huh??? When I asked what he meant he said "so I could re wire you into not want kids". "oh come on, it wasn't just me who wanted kids was it?" Pause. Lonnng pause. "actually, if you hadn't wanted them I would never have brought it up" Okay, huge revelation. It took all my will not to start balling my eyes out in the pub. Am I making this bigger than it is? I now really feel like I tricked him into having kids, or maybe he tricked me because I never would have married someone who didn't want kids. I know he loves me and he loves the dcs, but that comment is going to stick with me for a long time. Maybe I am over reacting. Very confused but nothing I can do about it now anyway.

TOK could be one of those flippant remarks men make without thinking about what it actually means. Possibly what he meant was 'it's so nice to enjoy some time together, just the two of us' but just worded it badly. I'd have to delve further if I were you.

Either way, it's obviously the first time you've heard this opinion from him so if anyone has been 'tricked', it certainly isn't you. Perhaps he's just finding this young baby stage hard work, esp with another child to look after which I'd imagine demands more help from the dad than having just one baby, and finds himself thinking nostalgically about those babyfree days.

Hi all, thanks for all your messages. It really has been a traumatic few weeks but fingers crossed we'll be ok.
hobnob thanks for your advice re administering the med..I sort have have been doing the same thing. She deos posset it sometimes tho which is a pain. Also she seems to be in more distress but I too will wait and see how she goes after a week. Is Isla still on it and how long does she have to be on it?? Can't believe you're from Lisburn. My dh is from Killinchy so not too far away. We have friends in your area so we'd prob know lots of people in common!! I love the Ballynahinch road, its awesome to drive on it on a super super sunny day!! I ordered my wedding bouquet from Saintfield's florist.

laugs James the cat! awesome..now i can't stop singing it..

skorpion done that several times.. AS scarlotti says just tilt her head so it goes side.But when they are screaming its hard to to isn't it!??? I've choked C lots of times, then she vomits so its all fun and games then..

venus I'm going to make that TODAY sounds briliiant..Delia is really the dogs bs...nothing ever goes wrong when I make her recipes..

ITS THE WEEKEND!! tactical support is sleeping upstairs so better wake him up and start the day..

TOK I am so sorry you appear to have an insensitive partner. It is a flippant comment, made without any thought to how it might come across. I bet, if you had recorded it, and played it back to him in a few months, he would be horrified that he had said it. It sounds like one of those things you say in the middle of the night when knackered 'i hate breastfeeding' or 'you never give me any help' (which i am sure must hurt as DH does, but at 3am when he is snoring, i only remember the times he is on the x-box, or, well, snoring).

BUT, that does not stop what he said being extremely hurtful. And I do not think you are making more out of it than you should. I think you do need to broach it with him maybe immediately, as you don't want the pain to cause long term damage between you. Flippant comments are the worst as they sting so much, and can be so callous. DH is so good at them. I rarely say anything flippantly, even in anger (unless it is 3am) because I know, that once something is said, whether you mean it or you don't, it is out there and it cannot be taken back again. Even with an apology.

If you don't think he will take you seriously, or say you are making a big deal, could you write it down? Explain that you do know he loves you and the children, but that you feel as you explained in your post? And that you need reassurances that he does not regret the children.

If it is really true, what do you think you would do/say about it? Will it change things between you do you think?
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TOK sorry to hear your DH is being a bit of a jerk. Agree with Pav in that it needs broaching today so you can get it out in the open and dealt with. Just ask outright if he meant what he said, or is it just a comment meant to convey missing the pre-dc days. A lot of guys hanker for the supposed good old days I think, as then there were less demands on their time and they are lazy buggers less able now to do their own thing. Am sure he will concede he'd not be without them, but you do need to get across that if he mutters something like that again you'll hit him over the head with a frying pan

I am up with both DS', DD is at a friends, and DH is in bed. I was out last night with some friends - on his night out last week he also got a lie in. Needless to say I also did the night feeds
I think I'm being taken for a mug.

ursi will keep you up to date with developments on london meet up. Certainly will be avoiding rush hour as SirBoob and I will be heading up and back on the Brighton commuter line, and that's a nightmare with a pushchair during rush hour!

Going shopping today for material for DD's prom dress Have offered to make it for her and am now worried I'm not up to the task! Taking it to Mum's next week as she used to make my clothes so hoping we can get thje bulk of it done there!

Right, off for a shower

Morning ladies, Wow we've been busy the last few days on here. I'm popping in to say hello. I've not been on for a little while. Have been too tired to use my brain. It's taken me all week to get my energy levels back up as it was a tough few days when DH was away.

Weaning We started at 5 months (Easter time) with DS1. He was on formula and taking about 7 bottles a day and never seemed satisfied. It was a slow process, so I would say that we got to 6 months on just a bit of baby rice and a few veg/fruit purees. I can compare both the DS' as they were born 2 days apart. They seem to be very similar so far... I think DS2 will be nearer to 6 months when we start as he seems very content on breast milk and gaining weight well. I have lost count on how many bf's I do a day - anyone keeping count? I need to keep an eye on that. I also need to buy a good BLW book to get more of an idea of what i need to do - can anyone recommend?

London meet up Not sure if I can make it. I need to sort out childcare for DS1. Don't fancy dragging him up town and I can't trust him to behave lately

Apologies for the lack of input today. It takes a while to get back up to speed!

tok that must've been horrible to hear. I hope it was just a totally inappropriate throwaway comment.

sleepless hope you and little Charlotte are ok

I went to all three sessions of baby massage, which were lovely. BUT I seemed to have come away with some unfortunate side effects as I'm covered head to toe in red blotches, my skin is crazily itchy and I've got swollen fish lips like Leslie Ash. I can only assume I'm allergic to the sunflower seed oil we were using. Seems weird that it didn't show itself till the last day though. Ugh. Just as well I've arranged my first night out with my best mate since October tonight!

Hi all, I have been lurking a lot this week as never seem to have the time to post, but I do try to read what everyone is up to every day even if I don't comment!

sleepless sorry to hear about what you have been going through with little Charlotte, poor thing. Hopefully now she will start to feel better...

Tok agree with everyone else that your dh is probably just wistfully thinking of life pre kids, I do that all the time! Am sure it was a flippant remark not meant to upset you, these men just have a bad way of putting things sometimes. You should speak to him though to clear the air otherwise you will just brood on it and it will make you feel worse. From what you say I don't think you tricked him into having kids, and anyway, it takes two to make a baby, he knew what he was doing!

Millie has been waking in the night again for feeds but I'm wondering if it's because she is trying to increase my milk as she was poorly last week so may not have been having much then. Hopefully she'll start sleeping through again, I'm knackered! I'm going to hold off weaning until 6 months because I can't be arsed I don't think she'll be ready until then! Ds didn't really get into solids until he was about 8-9months old, he was a total milk monster! He is great with his food now so not going to stress too much this time round.

Looking forward to the London meetup. Is anyone planning on taking older kids? Not sure whether to bring ds or not...

Tok talk is cheap. Your dh is being insensitive but he can say that because he already has children. At worst he is being lazy and making you feel the children are your responsibility but if it's a one off that's unlikely to be the case. Probibly just opening his mouth without engaging his brain.

People do say stupid things. A friend of mine realised her marriage was over when on a lovely holiday just the two of them he looked over the beach as the sun set and said "If our children fell in the water from that jetty I don't think I would jump in and save them".

Morning! Thanks for the advice, I think staying calm is the key - got a bit shaken yesterday.

TOK I agree - a thing like that can't be left unexplored. It may be just dh not exsing what he meant well... Like pavlov said, it's so easy to say something hurtful without necessarily meaning it. I hope you can work it out with him. I think it is natural to miss pre-baby times - I know we both do here on occasion. It does not mean we would want things to be different now.

fruit this is the one mentioned on MN.

I think I meant to say 'expressing' there, TOK... Ninja that's a shocker! You don't need a clearer sign, do you?

Lucy's all smiles today. I love that mantra: they don't remember anything under 1 year old...

TOk I'm with everyone else. you poor thing, it must have been awful at the time. My DH has done a few things like that. I hope a chat will sort it all out. Its a remark that was prob not well thought out..you must tell him how you feel and be honest without getting too emotional and angry..

ninja your story is so awful..

Its hard work having kids and plays havoc on relationships if you let it..its normal to hark back to the old days. I do it everyday. But life is so much richer with the kids. I just want to start my relationship again with my DH. It just seems like work, kids, tv and sleep at the mo. Groundhog day with no time for us..its beginning to get to me but its normal i guess...right???

It's a long lonely old age without family

sleepless I feel the same. Sometimes I get scared that I'm forgetting how to be in a relationship with just DH. Like I've lost the old me that was part of a couple. We've not had any time for just the two of us since LO arrived and I do miss it. I'm constantly tired but can't switch off...

I love Lucy dearly and wouldn't change the fact that she's here for anything, and I agree that she brings so much into our lives even though she's only tiny and new. A friend of mine who had a baby in June said that she didn't remember the life without her son. I do remember the life before and miss the us-time.

I suppose now we just have to consciously work towards it and be patient. I like pavlov's idea of a date over dinner at home. Just need to get out of the mad circle of nothing being more important than sleep

Tok that was a pretty bad thing for your dh to say, and again agree that he probably didnt realise how bad it sounded when he said it, even though he shouldnt have said it in the first place. Do talk it through with your dh though, cos even though you may not want to it will forever be on your mind that he has said this, and he might realise what a shitty thing he has said to you.

Am actually going out on a 'date' with dh tonight, which is only going to the cinema to see Alice in Wonderland in 3d whilst mil has the children overnight. We havent been out in a while and this well may be my last saturday off as I will be starting work again soon. (though hopefully different department and finishing earlier). have dropped the children off already, and am already feeling lonely without them. dont know what to do with myself until we go out as usually have the baby cuddled up to me even when im on the comp. It is nice to have that couple time to as Jeremy kyle would put it "remember why you got together with eachother in the first place."

skorpion the key to a date at home is you have to pretend it is a new date. You need candles, music, soft lighting, nicely laid table, you know condiments in little pots with spoons, a nice bottle of wine/fruit juice/drink of your choice, telephone off. The food itself, that is not really important, but needs to be something that can be pre-cooked, or cooked quickly so you can just serve a starter, and then a main without going back to cook more. We do M&S as it is quick & involves no mess but you could easily do beans on toast! We like(d) to get dressed up a bit, DH has on one occasion bought me flowers, and he hold the chair out for me, pour my wine. We accepted with DD that I might need to nip out to feed, or that she might end up visiting her own restuarant, but general rule is that patron should not be present! It is lots of fun. We tried to go to Cafe Reubenio this week but it did not happen.

we do the date at home too pav, we usually buy the tesco's meal deal, which means just taking cardboard packaging off and shoving it in the oven. with a dreamy chocoate mousse trifle for pudding, so you can share with one spoon. mmmm

DH away again, so I'm going to catch up on here tonight! When I said my DS' were born 2 days apart , I meant their birthdays are 2 days apart!! Sleep deprivation!!