November 09 babies are growing up quick, and mummy's getting used to getting covered in sick!

[PreggoK8]

Hope this has worked...

Venus I wish I had the magic beans that guaranteed this would continue. I suspect that the frequent feeding might have something to do with it, as well as the not going to bed until 11 or so . Which means that tonight is scuppered because she's just woken from one of those freak once-in-a-fortnight 3-hour naps . Usually it's daytime sleep that's for the weak here.

Anyone thinking of getting the MN baby guide?

hobnob what can they tell us that we don't already know?!

pav meant to say that I think that your idea about doing a doctorate sounds great. I really understand those feelings that you described so well. Bringing a new baby into the world is such a huge thing that it's bound to bring some darker thoughts and fears with it at times. What would/will your area of research be?

venus criminology/criminal justice studies of some kind.

Duh, of course!

I mean, Duh I'm an idiot. Oh, you know what I'm trying to say..

hobnob thanks for all the suggestions. I'm just about to do an online shop so I guess I'll just stick to things that I think don't contain milk. I don't think she has a milk allergy (no immediate reaction), but possibly an intolerance. It's definitely worth a try anyway. She hasn't had a full night's sleep for a couple of weeks so is exhausted. I wouldn't mind some sleep either.
Come to think of it James' poo is normally mucusy. I hope that doesn't mean anything?

easyeggs Yes, it's great news. She's fine - the pregnancy is going well and all on track. She hasn't come to see DS yet: I think it must be hard for her as we were pregnant at the same time. I just hope she'll feel better once this pregnancy has turned out successfully.

venus of course i get what you are saying! It is not obvious, it could be anything though couldn't it? drugs and alcohol/health or something social worky too. I really was not sure if I wanted to continue with criminology as I am so jaded in my field, but reading it all, and thinking about it, it reminds me of all that i do enjoy about my field, and i guess right now at least the operational work so to speak is not where i am at, its just too negative all the time (and not the best way to rehabilitate people/protect the public hence research to improve it). We shall see, any kind of study is a looong way off yet, just an idea for now.

Pav think it's a great idea to go back and study some more. My brother did a Criminology degree (he's now a probation officer) and it always sounded really interesting. I'd love to go and study something again, I loved Uni and love learning stuff! Maybe at some point I'll do an OU course. DD is just choosing her A level courses and I'm quite of the journey she's about to start!!

Went to visit my friend and her 2 week old son today it was such a lovely afternoon and he's so sweet. Her and her dh are so happy and content - it made me a bit too. They kept telling me how gorgeous Ioan is though so was chuffed to beans with that!!

scarlotti thats what i do! Well not qualified. I do the work, he does the responsibility! They have just changed how they do the recruitment and it will take a while if i chose that route, but i have a degree already, and i really don't want to work with sex offenders and murderers which is probably what i would do, at least for a while, and I really cannot do the bureaucracy and arsecovering that goes hand in hand with the job. It want to study, i have decided. You should study with your daughter - i did A'level English with my mum, it was at night school as it clashed with a day class and so we did it together, we had such fun! We either argued against each other about a point, or we ganged up against the lecturer .

Was it their first baby? It won't last you know that don't you, that blissful happiness...

BBL meant to say that I'm pleased you've found stuff that helps - you certainly sound much brighter than you did previously

Do anyone else's babies cluster feed in the evening still? Reuben feeds until 9:30pm, from about 6pm, just keeps going. I have tried at about 8pm to stop it, pat him, rock him, leave him, give him a dummy (he refuses it) and he wants boob. He does appear to actually be drinking rather than just suckling, even though my boobs feel empty. However, on some days when he has missed a few feeds due to falling asleep in the car, he is fine. He did that on saturday, fell asleep in the car in way home from a friend's at 7:45pm or so, and stayed asleep til i put him to bed at 9:30pm, quick dozey feed then slept til i can't remember, but a while. Any ideas? I might post a thread about it.

Laugs just seen the news - that's really fantastic!

Becky so pleased to hear you're feeling that bit better. You're doing so wonderfully.

You're all doing wonderfully, actually, I find you all utterly amazing and incredibly inspiring. Especially those of you with two+. I honestly don't know how you do it

Still a bit of a mess here. Can't quite make sense of my own thoughts, and am not sure if this is ME or BPD or PND. Or a combination thereof.

Pav my brother did a 2 year training thing after his degree to qualify. He enjoys it but there is a lot of bureaucracy which he doesn't enjoy!
Doubt DD would want me cramping her style!

My friends are really happy, and are one of a few couples I know that have a solid marriage. I get very where people have husbands that are supportive. Bitter ... who me?

Pav Ioan only stopped the cluster feeding when I established a bedtime. When he was with me in the evening he'd feed and doze. Not sure if it was just the right time for him or if the bedtime put paid to the late night snacking.

SirBoob sorry to hear you're still feeling rough. Feel free to vent or try to make sense of it on here if you want

Its a lot to do with this, and a lot to do with my own head. I would quite like to wake up tomorrow with a different brain, preferably one that doesn't have a few parts not working correctly!

And as for your friends, Scarlotti - DP and I know a couple like that. They literally are perfect in every way. Stunning, funny, intellegant, wealthy, popular. And are having a baby boy in May, who is bound to be exactly the same. Its very tempting to hate them, but you can't because they're just too nice!

SirBoob exactly! I have two sets of friends that fall into that category. Just make me wonder how they managed to make such good choices in their life partner - I obviously was at the back of the queue that day

All this talk of mucous has rung a bell here as Pearl has had a bunged up nose for ages- but no cold! I am the Diary Queen so think I will cut back and see if this help's at it has been affecting her sleep- poor lamb! I had actually bought some Pure Dairy Free Spread With Soya as it was on special offer and hadn't realised it was dairy free - taste rather nice!

London meet- Im getting a quite excited hehe is everyone who wants to come on facebook? Was thinking of making an event so we can keep track and help us to organise ourselves better- would this be helpful? I can get to london bridge on the bus not sure if that would be good for everyone? We could have a walk down the river or go to a cafe? Trying to think of central parks is difficult - Hyde Park not sure if that is really central or how I would get there? The only think I would say is we don't want to be stuck in a park with no where to go if it starts raining! So a park near a big cafe?

snort I bet in secret they're really full of faults though. I bet that He always leaves the toilet seat up and She only shaves her legs when visitors are coming...

Or maybe they are just creatures of another world and we should give up now...

Brood Thanks v v much for the running programme, I'm going to give it a whirl.

perfect couples hmm, I'm cynical. The perfectest couple I know still get on each other's nerves at times. Whenever I feel envious of anything that looks superficially enviable in anyone else's life I remember "Life's a video, not a snapshot" That said, some people seem better suited than others. As for unhelpful dhs, a quick view of One Born Every Minute is all I need to remind me how very unhelpful dhs can be

My attempt to be dairy free this afternoon onwards crushed by DH passing my pasta, smothered with a ton of cheese!

scarlotti its the 2 years training i don't want to do, as it means a pay cut for me, and then start back qualified at not much more than i am on now. Worked out it would take approximately 10 years to make back the money i lost! Not that it is all about the money, and I am doing on the job training which should see me qualified around the time i retire .

I have started a semblence of a routine now. He goes to bed at 9:30pm! I sort of thought the routine would fit around the feeding like it did with DD, but no! He went down at 9:20pm then woke, but could not possibly have been hungry! So i rocked the moses basket and 10 mins and softer la's later he was snoring! So I might try that with a bit more determination tomorrow at 9pm. Then bring it back gradually, at the same time taking him just before, for dim lights and quiet. I used to play calming music and read stories to DD, i might try this with him.

just been reading this: our original thread

Oh the memories!

Only just managed to scan through the past few pages so sorry if I've missed any big announcements, and sorry for this big post...

pav if you're still feeling like that and having a new direction isn't helping then I'd recommend talking to an HV.

I've had a few bad weeks recently - hence not being on here.

I was having a few days on and off where I felt a bit down and blamed raging hormones still but the down days got more frequent and ended up with me spending a whole Monday morning crying with tears rolling down my face and splashing Ben while he was feeding. I called my HV and burst into tears down the phone and she was great, checked I was at home and said don't go anywhere and she was knocking at the door within 25 mins. She talked through a lot of stuff and suggested keeping a diary, lots of fruit and veg and get as much sleep as poss for 1 week and then she'd visit again and we'd review whether to go for counselling / medication / other stuff. In the end I think doing some tlc for me and just saying to someone that I wasn't happy went a big way to making me feel better. Each time I see any of the HVs now they are lovely and check I'm doing OK and keep reminding me that they are there to support mums and that's why they get paid.

So to cut it short... even if you don't think it'll help it may be worth talking to hvs

Can't remember who said about moving LO into a cot, but Ben is now in his cot as he sleeps stretched out so although he's small (not even 10lb yet at 15 weeks!) he's too long for the moses basket. The down side is that the cot doesn't fit in our room so he's in his own room already but he seems fine in there so I think it's more strange for us.

Anyhoo, well done to anyone that's got this far and hopefully I'll be able to be here a bit more now.

ok. So you this dairy thing, i said it would be no problem? DH was heating up apple and blueberry crumble which I made earlier. He shouted from the kitchen about 10 minutes ago 'do you want custard?' 'No thanks' i shout back and then i hear him go 'oh well shit then' and he comes in passing me crumble, with custard and he says laughing 'you have less than you first did!' I had to eat it, i spend ages (well not too long) making it!

fairy thank you. I am keeping an eye on it. I do feel very up down up down up down, and this can be within hours or less. But waves of tiredness do so too. I really am not a great fan of my HV, she is not the most clued up. A nice lady but not sure she is the best person to guide me if i need it i think, she is quite 'conventional' and I had issues with her with DD when she made DH and I feel like utter failures as parents for not getting DD to take bottle to help her gain weight. BUT, i get on well with the female gp, and spent time talking through things with her when mum died, so would probably go directly to her tbh, and I will if I feel it will help. I am not good at talking to anyone though. I tried it when mum died and it did not work for me. What I need is a long long soak in a bubble bath, with some chilled music long enough to shave my legs etc before i get toys thrown in followed by a child clambering over me 'can i come in now mama?'! and without me worrying about the amount of water i am lying in and how much it costs! (we stupidly got a lovely deep long european style bath, fabulous, takes a stupid amount of water to fill it!

ladies, thank you for listening to the memememe posts today, i really appreciate it . Am off to bed and will do some listening from tomorrow x