November 09 babies are growing up quick, and mummy's getting used to getting covered in sick!

[PreggoK8]

Hope this has worked...

artbox, not toy bpx!

anyone getting joint pain?? think remember from first time when hormones start leaving your body and readjusts it hurts, anyone else??

morning

weston I have pains in my hips, didn't realise it was hormonal. Thought it might still be a bit of carpal tunnel as my hands still hurt a little in the mornings, although that's now easing.

Brood 45 mins is a baby sleep cycle. Sounds to me like your trip away has unsettled him to where he can't get back over to the next cycle by himself. My advice, fwiw, would be to put him up to bed and come out of the room. Go back in then either when you hear the first snuffles on the monitor (that's what we did) or a few minutes before he's due to rouse, and then put dummy back in/pat and shush/whatever works for him to get him back to sleep. If you catch him before he properly wakes he'll go back off, although you might have to do whatever it is for a few mins. You 'should' find that 3 or 4 nights of this sorts the problem out.
Trouble with staying in the room is that he will know you're there and will then want you to be with him. They're crafty little blighters when they want to be they can sniff a mum's weakness from miles away and will always choose the be near to mum option.
I have a similar thing here. Ioan will sleep wonderfully in his hammock until his first feed. We've now fallen into a pattern of me taking him into bed around 5am to feed and now he thinks that's the norm. Once the night feeds settle down again to a pattern I can cope with better (i.e. first one at 5am) then I'll work on him going back to his own bed.

Got to sleep from 10:45 - 4:45 last night and I feel so much better for it. Am hoping this might mean we've broken the back of the 12-16 week hell spurt and just maybe this might be back to the way things were. [touches everything wooden in sight]

Oh, and I've worked out where the scratches on my hand are coming from - turns out Ioan does a grabby hand thing while he's feeding and if my hand is in the way it gets scratched!

Pav hope you manage to catch up on sleep soon, it's so draining isn't it. My sympathies.

Hope you're ok SirBoob. Come and talk to us if you want to. If it helps, I think most mums feel like they are screwing up some of the time. Success is screwing up less than usual! Sadly, I think guilt and feelings of incompetence often come with the (otherwise lovely) territory. I try to remember I'm doing the best I can and that others are probably nowhere near as perfect as I imagine.

Wah... I am so tired. James has been sleeping really well at night, but DD not so. She has a cold and asthma and coughs approximately every 2.5 seconds. She's sleeping in our bed, so there is no escape! And she's been off nursery for the past 2 days, so no escape there either. The product of James sleeping well at night is not sleeping during the day, which would be fine except for DD....Feel like I am on 24 hour watch. I have a friend coming to stay tonight. I wonder if she'll be happy to go to bed at 8pm?

Ooh that man on One Born, what a div! At least our irritating DHs pale in comparison.

Oh, and Pav, Ioan's blocked nose seems to kick in around 5am too and he then struggles to sleep from that point unless he's propped up on pillows. Must be the time in the morning where it's all collected in their throats and causes them troubles? We've been awake on and off since then too

I give up. Just lost my big long post twice.
General gist was Anya's not sleeping well and waking alot more frequently. I am going out and supposed to be staying over at sisters on sat night but am worried how dh will cope on his own.

wook hope you're not too tender down there!

Going off in a huff now .

brood thanks for sharing about the running, if you happen to stumble across the article I would be interested in reading it, I desperately need to start doing some exercise!

boobalot hope you are ok and get something positive from your therapy session.

pav hope you get to have some rest later...

Still no heating here but on a positive note Millie slept from 8pm to 6.15am then quick boob and back to sleep till 8.30am!

Good luck to the swimming babies! I find that if I dry Millie and wrap her in a towel she doesn't cry whilst I get dressed, I think all the other babies act as a distraction too!

oh, and brood I'd be interested in seeing the running programme

Laugs x-posts Sorry to hear you're having troubles on the sleep front too, hope your DD feels better soon.

SirBoob echo what Laugs has said, come and vent here. Meant to say that in my last post but yours had fallen back a page when I was typing and so also fallen out of my brain!

Oh, on swimming, I meant to say if you have a local sure start centre, they run swimming courses for babies. The best bit is that they help you get them dried and dressed afterwards and hold the baby while you're getting dressed!

sirboob Hope you're doing ok.

brood I'd be interested in the running program as well and some motivation if anyone has some spare?

I am so fed up with DP. I'm finding evenings hard work, as I'm sure we all are, as I'm tired and the baby is tired and I feel like there is loads of housework not yet done but need sleep. Last night I said to DP "I'm exhausted, I could do with a few hours' break from the baby"... His response: "I'm tired too".

He works. I know this is 'work' but it is time away from the family. He also plays rugby which takes up 3hrs two nights a week for training and a game every Saturday which can be 5-6 hours if at home, up to 10 if away. I pointed out that he wasn't too tired to play rugby, he said "that's hardly a break, is it?"

It turned into a big argument last night when I had quite reasonably asked for him to help me have some time away from Ethan. I don't know how to get through to him. Shouting doesn't work and being reasonable doesn't work either. Any advice?

The annoying thing is, even if someone did take the baby for a couple of hours, I can't see me doing anything other than sleep or housework in that time.

DWB I know how you feel. How about just telling him you are having some time off - don't turn it into an argument or even a question, just say it nicely, in the way he'd say he's off to a rugby game. "I need some time out so I'm going to have a break on Sunday". It's easier if you can actually leave the house though!

Actually I think people with proper hobbies get away with more. Like, he obviously thinks he has to go to rugby. If you started running or something and said that you were going out for a 20 min run each evening, I bet he'd understand it more than if you wanted to go for a 20 min bath.

DH and I have been doing the competitive tiredness thing and the other day agreed we can both be tired, it doesn't have to be a competition. (I am more tired though, he doesn't know he's born! )

Laugs There would be no competition if he would only accept that I am the most tired!

Good idea, I'm just going to make plans, hopefully involving cake, and leave him to it.

DWB I make vital appointments that must be kept DP still made a face (and I BET the kids end up at his parents) when I told him I was going out with friends on Saturday, but he can hardly moan as he usually gets at least an hour in the pub EVERY NIGHT!

He keeps saying that he wants to take them to playgroup every Friday morning. Playgroup starts at 10.30 and he is still in bed...

I will catch up later but have had a dreadful night as my 13yr old woke me at 3am saying he didn't feel too good. He had a temp of 40 and was shivering uncontrollably. He has a sore throat and a cough and then proceeded to be sick. It was all I could do not to go into a blind panic. Have got the temp down now and he has had breakfast so fingers crossed it's just a virus. He's not slept though.

Funny how even if the baby sleeps (12pm-8.30am) you still get woken by the big one (not that I'd have it any other way).

Off to play mum and mop some brows will catch up with you all as soon as I can.

Ninja Hope your DS is ok, horrible when they get sick when they're older as then it's serious as it's stopped them from doing normal stuff.

DWB you're not alone. We also have the 'who's the most tired' competition although he is much better this time around and just not saying he's tired. Playing rugby might not be a physical break but it sure is a mental one so might be worth pointing that out! I agree that you need to state you're having time off - if you want to sleep, get him to take the dc's out of the house, otherwise tell him you'll be back at x and then run out that door! even a coffee and cake with a mag in a cafe can work wonders on how you feel.

ninja your poor ds, hope he feels better soon.

Meant to ask scarlotti in my last post, what do you do now your ds doesn't nap? Do you have quiet time? and for how long?

DWB at your dh, hope you get to have some time off soon...

helips we did some quiet time when he first dropped his nap, but he didn't do that for long. An idea is to maybe have a story or jigsaws etc. for say about half an hour to an hour when they'd usually nap. You'll also find that for the first little while, they will get very tired and cranky about an hour or so before bed. As they get used to staying awake all day it gets easier. I feed ds a lot to keep his blood sugar up which helps with moods and crankiness!!

starting potty training tomorrow morning....wish me luck..

Does anyone else feel like no-one in the world has ever been so tired?? And I know I'm getting more sleep than some of you so that can't be true! I'm particularly thinking of maman as James is 12 weeks today - this is when you went back to work I think and I am on my knees, just thinking how hard it must have been for you and how well you've done not to complain! A good moan is one of my few pleasures these days...

Laugs I'm feeling the tiredness this week. We are 16 weeks here and sleep patterns have changed and we're back to waking up through the night and getting up at 5am every morning Plus DH is away and I'm dealing with both boys. Ahh well we'll get there in the end!

Joint pain My knees are very stiff. First thing in the morning I can't walk down the stairs very well. When I'm holding the baby I have to take each step with both feet - if that makes sense. They are clicking each time I bend down too. With that and hair loss I'm not doing too well! Maybe one of you know, are we able to take supplements when bf? I was thinking cod liver oil??

weston good luck - how old? have you been out and bought new pants together? Worked wonders for us!

Laugs, Fruit am with you on the tiredness. I think the cumulative effect kicks in big time around 3 months as they're also much more alert in the day and so need more of your attention. Have to say, my 30 min catnap yesterday made the world of difference so am going to aim to do that most days if I can. Didn't manage today though.

Fruit we're the same here, although last night I did manage to sleep from 11 - 5. he was more alert from 5 than I'd have liked though. He's had less time napping today so will be interesting to see what happens tonight. Am counting down the days to 19 weeks as the HV said that's the earliest to start weaning, but agreed that as he's 16lb he probably needs it soon
Hang in there with DH being away, you're doing a great job

yes knees that feel like breaking seems to be accompanied by hair loss..reckon must be hormonal thing...

she is 3 next thursday...def time for it as trying to change her on a baby change table is quite a mission...

weston she should breeze it then. DS1 was 2.9 when we did it and it took 2 days. First day he had quite a lot of accidents, 2nd day about 3 and from then on none! I think when they're older they can understand what to do more and know what feeling they're looking for that signals they want to go, plus they can hold it better.

Well we didn't make it to swimming in the end as my friend cancelled on me and I didn't dare go alone. Will hopefully go next week or might see if DH wants to come on Sunday.

I joined Isaac for his nap this afternoon so am feeling very refreshed. I know I'll probably never be able to do this again with future babies so am taking full advantage. I've just been looking at all the cute pics on FB.I've stuck a couple of recent ones of the little fella on there.

For people who feel like running there's the couch to 5k running plan where you can download mp3s that have a different pace for when you run and when you walk. I've been considering it myself.

www.c25k.com/