Oct 08 - Chair climbing, spider greeting, potty training? NOOOOOO, they're still babies! <wibble>

[50ftQueenie]

10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz
9th Oct (Due 17th Oct) - 50ftQueenie - Girl - Martha - 7lbs 10oz - Elective c-sec
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz
16th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz
28th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - RachieW - Boy - Jack - 7lbs 4oz
31st Oct (Due 20th Oct) - KnickersOnMaHead - Boy - Samuel Paul - 9lbs 11oz
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz

Hope this is ok ladies.

I agree with you that people shouldn't be terrified of it. I wish I hadn't been... but at the same time, I think there needs to be a balance. Like you said - it does hurt a LOT and know what to expect, but that it doesn't have to be horrible.
You're right - the media does it's bit to frighten. I just also don't like the women who paint this rosy picture and then as soon as childless person leaves the room, admit how much it hurt!

I was absolutely terrified.
But, I also thought one of two things would happen.
It would be like the labour stories on TV (horrifyingly painful and awful) or it would be like the rosy women's stories - "it doesn't really hurt, I could barely feel anything at all"
When I felt the first round of contractions I did not think it was possible to have the lovely experience. I also had other issues... but people need to hear a balance.
Pistachio I think you're going to be great at helping women prepare for it.

I really do believe that a positive mental attitude helps a lot in labour though star, so maybe those women didn't want to spoil that for the ones that hadn't had children yet.

So much for thinking that the zoo would wear them out enough and give them enough fresh air to ensure a good night's sleep for everyone .

True, but then you have to know that they are going to see the horrifying stories on tv as well. So it won't be an experience at one of those poles. It can be happy medium. Painful but cheerful iyswim. I had other issues obviously but I think they should know it's going to push your pain threshold. I had a friend who read all about hypnobirthing and was convinced that she could give birth without feeling an ounce of pain. She was totally blissful about it all pregnancy. Positive attitude about birth, excited to give birth, got a pool for home...etc. She ended up in hospital with an epidural and she was scared because despite using all of the techniques she had learned, it still bloody hurt like hell and she figured she must be doing something wrong.

Sorry for the not so sleepy night, csws

Completely agree re the positive mental attitude bit. I watched the latest episode of one born every minute last night and was quite shocked by the young girl who seemed to be going into panic overdrive - it seemed like she was sabotaging herself by reacting the way she did. (I know its easy to say when you are just watching!) I thought the midwives dealt with her pretty well, because it was stressing me out just watching her!

drops went in ok last night... when i say ok i mean there was much struggling and crying... but i followed it up quickly with a trip to the kitchen for raisins, which seems to help. Its getting better very quickly thankfully!

Raisins are a fav here, too! I don't like how they stick to their teeth, but Q just loves them.
Glad the conjunctivitis is clearing up quickly. It must be so hard to see them suffering with it

Arrrrrgghhh sleep times are horrible here again. Ds has taken to insisting on dh putting him down rather than me, but even that often doesn't work. We've both tried just now (he def needs nap as was falling asleep in car just before lunch, but I wanted him to have lunch then nap at home) and he's been screaming for half an hour or more, and clings to us for dear life when we try to put him down .

Sounds like a lovely day, myjob!

csws that is awful when they cling to you for dear life when you try to lower them down, isn't it? Poor D. And as he's such a gentle soul anyway that would double the heartbreak.

Well I've just got back from dropping dd at her playdate (and having a cuppa with the mother) and found ds sleeping on a sleeping dh in the living room, so I guess he woke distraught half way through his nap again. Poor soul. And I'm abandoning him to go out tonight too .

Just marking - Half term, blurgh.

Poor Jenwa's dog died.

Oh Poor Jenwa. I hope she's doing OK.

Another believer in positive thinking here. I did a hypnobirthing course because the anti-natal courses at the hospital were full, and the NCT messed up getting me on a course. I think the stuff about it not being "pain" is a load of b***s frankly, but it really did help to keep me calm and focus, even during the pushing stage.

What a day. Playgroup this morning where I rashly decided to invite a few mums and babies over the afternoon for a play and a chat which was lovely but meant that I had a manic three quarters of an hour removing washing from various surfaces and vacuuming.
Dp came home and commented how lovely it is when I have friends over because the flat is tidy.

Now I'm trying to list a load of stuff on Ebay. Tedious.

Oh and Star. A while ago and you were saying that Clarks shoes were too expensive for you. Last week, my friend bought some nice shoes for her ds from Next that were only about £11. However, I just tried to find them on the website but couldn't, sorry.

I've found baby gap and gap kids shoes to be wide and cheaper Thanks so much for thinking of me when you heard that, though, aubergenie!

oh, I haven't been able to run this week because I now have shin splints. Is that what you call it here? Anyway, they are excruciating even at a fast walk a the moment. I think I need to just find a substitute exercise.
Any ideas? I don't like the cold. I don't want to have to go to the gym because I like to be home or out with Q when I do it if possible.

I hope Jenwa and family are doing ok. How awful.

We have an indoor swimming pool! But it's in what we laughably call the conservatory and therefore not very convenient. It is very annoying as we have had the plumber out before when a tiny bit of water appeared out there and he said it was nothing, just rain water. Nothing but rain water eh? Well, considering there hasn't been any rain since this morning, I'd better find out how my house is managing to make floods of water appear from nowhere as I am sure that I'd make a fortune!

Pool party at the 50fts
Something happened earlier when I went to post this and it posted on the wrong thread

Which bit do you call the conservatory 50ft ? Pool not great wherever it is though.

Poor jenwa.

There is no longer a pool is has mysteriously drained away to who-knows-where....! DH went out to look at and burst out laughing. He said "Do you think that massive hole in the top of the drainage pipe (from the bath) has anything to do with it?" How the hell has that happened?!

CSWS - Outside the back door (the one we use) there is an old original Edwardian conservatory (greenhouse type thing I think) but it is a death trap! If there is a strong breeze the whole thing feels ready to break. DH pushed one of the wooden frame bits (when drunk), it fell off and a huge shard of glass fell and embedded in his thumb joint! OUCH!

Hmm... the waters seem to have swept away my ability to write! Sorry about that ladies!

where is everyone lately?