October 2007 - these little piggies are growing up fast!

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Ok so a pretty boring thread title but thought we needed some distance from the last one!

Thanks for the welcome everyone :-). I am very impressed with the length of posts!

WWAJC - sorry to hear about things not working out with H. I love the name Anya by the way.

Dal - Are you just as excited and envious at all those babies on the March thread? How is Dylan dealing with the prospect of a rival? Fien has been ill a lot the last few weeks and wants to be near me all the time. I am almost looking forward to a few days in the hospital ... Although I will regret saying that if I end up with a C-section.

[Waves] to everyone else. I am looking forward to getting to know you all better.

Belgian - Hi! I have ds 1 -5.11 (Oliver), ds 2- 2.3 (henry) and ds 3 -7 months (Tobias)
This is a fab group and the ladie are wonderful

WWAJC - Must be very strange for you but I hope the feeling will pass soon and you and ANya can start on your new lives. Go out (have fun!!) and you'll soon start to smile again xx

NC - Strange from dp?? Mind games aren't fun and maybe a good chat will help cool the situation? I can totally understand your hestitance in the bedroom dept. I've never really got back to how it was pre children due to feeling that 'down there' looked like a car crash!

Inzi - take it slowly, your mum shouldn't have pushed for longer time really but I suppose she's just so excited why not go for lunch with dh and leave jane at your mum's? It doesn;t have to be an evening or overnight at first. You might love a bit of time with dh before lo arrives x

Dal - not long now!!! Your bump looks lovely and you look really well I still have bits and bobs for you, sorry did offer ages ago then completely went quiet. I'll have a sort and then list. A friend is using the crib so that'll be Henry, my friend's lo Cian then Toby and now another friend's lo. It's lovely it's been used so much, I'll have to etch in all the names underneath

Floria/LLL -how are the colds?
I don't have a cold just a really sore throat and my voice sounds awful. Toby has had one of his long sleeps so I need to go and wake him to give him some food.

Take care all
xx

WWAJC - sorry I sounded very dismissive in my post and I really didn't mean it like that at all! I meant that I hope it is soon that you start to smile again...

Morning ladies(well, it was morning when I thought about writing!)

WWaJC-Technically I am still a single mum so you're in good company. Hope you have a fab spa day. Me and my friend have booked to go to one in Blackpool on Sat afternoon, £50 for a scrub, a massage, a facial, lunch and use of the facilities, unfortunately it'll take nearly 3 hours to get there but hopefully it'll be soo worth it
How you feeling? Lot's of stuff? relieved, happy, sad?

Muppet-I had a sore throat, well kind of a lump at the back of my throat just for 24 hours, was weird. Hope yours clears up soon

hmm I thought it was mind games, it feels like he was playing mind games but he said not.

We had a long chat last night, well me crying and him saying he didn't want to upset me, that's why he didn't mention it so far and it's been like this for a year We've not even been together for 2 years yet. Anyway, I said hopefully it'll get better but it will probably be after June as I have assignments and exams, and then theres the gynae thing and the bum cells thing and well, the list goes on doesn't it, and he said there is always something and I'm always tired, which is true.
So, thinking back, I probably went off sex around the time that I found out about my Dads father being a paedophile, which is to be expected really I suppose, but also, I've always been tired after having dd1 so maybe it need's investigating..anyway, went to GP this morning and he's given me fluxetine to try for a few months and see how I go with them. Need to research them in a minute.

BM-Actually, I think I'll have to write your full name out in future, it's not very nice for me to shorten it to that! LOL@ looking forward to a few days in hospital, I wanted to stay in longer than I did with Shannon, but DD1 was so desperate for us to come home and so I had to get my act together and come home.

How's everyone else?
What are the details for Thurs then all everyone thaqt's going?

tut posted before I'd finished. I should be able to get to the destination between 10-10:30 so can work round other people. Will have to leave around 2pm though.

Muppet - I knew what you meant ! Hope your sore throat is better soon.

NC - that was a stupid thing for me to write about being a single mum - my only excuse being that half my brain's not working properly, it's not filtering stuff properly so things are coming out all wrong - been doing that since Friday! I should apologise to Eva too - I was hoping that everything would work out with you and your h when I wrote it.

And NC - sorry you and Rich are having a bad spell - what does fluxetine do?

I've had such a relaxing day - the spa treatments were a facial and a back/shoulder massage with hot stones - bliss! I'm sure I drifted off to sleep at one point.

WWaJC-I meant to put...cos we don't live together and he doesn't sleep very often so essentially I am a single mum, I didn't include Eva either as I was hoping things go well with DH, also meant to put a at the end so you knew I wasn't bothered! My brain never filters stuff properly.
Spa sounds fabulous, I can't wait for mine

Fluxetine-just googled and it's another name for prozac apparantly, will see how it goes, say's what of the side effects may be decreased appitite-here's hoping!

Also got Shannon prescription for abs as she seems to have a sinus infection.

Have just been in to have a word with dd1s teachers, neither seem to have noticed any social problems with her apart from she 'gets in your face' sometimes when shes excited, I felt silly mentioning it to them really but they where fine and said they would keep an eye on her and also try to encourage her more with physical activities as her weight has shot up again, she's classed as obese now

Ooh will also tell you before I forget, Shannon has done a couple of things that suprised me today. She saw something on TV and exclaimed 'oooooh a Space Rocket!' Don't know where she got that from and also said that we're going to play hide and seek and went and stood in a corner and started counting. I was very impressed, must be from nursery even though she hasn't been since the week before last, oh and she very concernedly(is that a word??) asked dd1 if she was okay after she threw herself off the couch
Does anyone else have older dcs that listen in on phone convos and comment throughout the call??? I've sent dd1 to bed for it as she'd already been warned once in the same converation

Right off to do Shannons bedtime and get organised for college.

ahah - found you.Strawberrylace's sister here

Just thought you might want to know - Strawberrylace is in hospital with pneumonia. don't know anymore at the mo as I got back from Switzerland last night to a text saying she had a high temp & felt crap, followed by a text this aft to say she was in hospital.

sure she will appreciate some get well soon thoughts.

Fx

Evening ladies

NC - Not sure what they said to my dada, they just quoted whatever law it was they'd broken, the police man didn't tell me specifically what that law was though something to do with harassment I think...

Sorry your having such a hard time with DD's stupid dad. He doesn't seem to act fairly at all . You're doing so well to be the bigger person/much more responsible parent. It must be hard when you just want to get her away from him

Lol at Shannons D D D D Bink

Re the bedroom problem, I totally understand. My sex drive/interest is very fragile at the best of times and has been up and down for all sorts of reasons. Depression/ tear after Dylan/ tiredness/ Stress/ Just not feeling like it etc etc. I think the best thing you can do is what you've done which is to talk about it.

I don't think the mind games and making you feel to blame or pressured help in any way

It sounds like it's been an issue for him for a while, have you ever sat down and discussed how often you'd both like 'it' in an idel world? You know, if you weren't tired, busy etc and could do it as often as you liked? We did this as I wanted to see how our idea of whats acceptable differed. What I mean is, he might think that anything less than3 times a week is a 'problem' where as you might be perfectly happy with once every 2 weeks for example. There's nothing wrong with either mind...

I find that if we're having a tough time or stressfull time or have just not been making much time for each other then that area suffers. I need to feel emotionally close to dh to be in the mood.

Hope the tablets the doctor prescribed help you somewhat. Don't be fobbed off if you think some counselling might help along side or if you think they aren't the right sollution for you though. Look after you!

Muppet - How is Tobias now? Rash gone down a bit?

I saw on fb you've fitted Henry's stairgate, is he used to it yet?

Your uni meet up sounds great, wow at all the kids!

Hope you enjoyed having your bro to stay despite the sleep deprivation. It's a bit like that when my bro stays, his daughter gets unsettled with her sleep and we have to have Dylan in our room so he keeps waking up to play too cause he can see us

Thanks for saying i'm looking well, I feel a little bit less exhausted now i've been on the iron a few days

No worries about the bits and bobs, I just figured you had enough on your plate with 3 boys to look after! If you manage to list what you've got that'd be great though.

Nice the crib has been well used, we have the moses basket Dylan had and will have that downstairs. The moses basket for upstairs is actually the one dh slept in as a baby!(possbly his bro's too) and we used it for Dylan last time. It's really nice as has a wiker (sp?) frame and you can sort of gently shake it backwards and forwards to settle the baby

Hope your sore throat feels better soon... have you tried gargling salt water? My gran swore by it

BabyBlue - Thanks for thee bump complitment I'm quite grateful it's just neat as i'm uncomfortable enough as it is. I'm guessing I probably will go overdue being 2 weeks late last time but hoping it's not quite till that extent!

How's Sofia now? Any better?

Inzi - I'm not surprised you changed your mind on the overnight stay, you had been very brave to just go for it after initially feeling so uneasy about it. Don't be hard on yourself, I would be exactly the same, i'm sure if you do a few afternoons etc you will start to feel a lot more at ease with the whole thing

WWAJC - Hope you're doing ok now h has moved out. Must be a mix of emotions and will probably take a while for you to settle in to your own unique routine. We're all here to support you x

Hope you enjoyed your spa day, sounds absolutely lovely

BelgianMummy - Yes! Very excited and at all the new babies, can't wait to hold mine! I swing between wanting it to happen now and thinking, actually we've got some thinkgs to do before the baby arrives so probably will be best if it's not jus yet!

I think Dylan is slowly getting used to the idea, he stokes my bump occasionally and says baby. We got a topsy and tim book called soemthing like 'the new baby' at the weekend and Dh has been reading it to him along side his other stories at bedtime. It's funny actually as the mum in it looks rather like me and the little boy looks like Dylan , dh changes the names when he reads it to Dylan and Miles and he seems to really enjoy it so hopefully that'll help.

We got him a present from the baby, a Thomas the tank backpack and a playmobile racing car with driver which he'll love

Strawberrylace - So so sorry to hear you're so ill in hospital. Hope you make a speedy recovery and feel better very soon. Pneumonia is what my fil has just had and he is now back home recovering well. Hope they look after you well in there and have you fighting fit asap. Get well soon x x x

Well, i've been a busy bee this afternoon... Dh got home and I took Dylan food shopping with me so he could get on and paint some more of the hall. We came back and I made tea, after tea I put on my hair dye and whilst that developed I did some painting in the hall whilst dh wathced Dylan. Now sat relaxing and watching 'home birth diaries' as he's fallen asleep next to me!

Off to eat a sherbet fountain now

Hi to anyone i've missed x

what an unfortunate typo, I meanr dad not dada!

OMG Bogwoppit!!!! Poor Strawberry! I hope the treatment kicks in very quickly and she gets out of hospital soon. Lots of 'get well' vibes winging their way as I type.

Hi everyone...sorry I've been awol again...just caught up and now off to bed

Thursday is definately me and WWAJC and you NC but is anyone else joining us? If not I'd suggest somewhere mid M62 rather than York... Alice are you still joining us so we can go to Yorks' Creepy Crawlies or somewhere else? Anyone else?

I'll get back on in the morning...night all

Hello everyone Will try to get in a decent post... but more than likely it will be cut short since my nerves are shot at the moment. Sofia is up in her cot screaming blue murder. I put her there after she would not stop hitting and fighting with her 10 year old brother! What a brat! I am at the end of my patience right now with all the screaming and bickering between the 3 older ones (Marco is currently being an angel although my supper was interrupted because he insists on crying every time I go to lift the fork to my mouth... a wonder I dont weigh 20lbs less than I do!!). Its almost 8pm... another hour and DH will be homw and they will all have gone to bed.

Its now 10pm and the baby has just gone to sleep. Sigh... Sofia screamed for one reason or another right til the bitter end. Its not even like I can put her down early. She will cry until her sister comes to bed (they share a room), often wanting to sleep in her bed as well.

So much for a productive post. Too knackered to think. Went out and helped DH shovel our driveway as well as that of our neighbours (we are getting about 10cm of snow... most we have had all winter). Going to make myself a hot chocolate and watch our womens' hockey team slaughter Finland

Night all... will try again in the morning

Almost forgot... have added some pics to my profile page... have a look

crikey, its gone busy again

Firstly - Strawberrylace Sorry to hear you are ill in hospital, hope you are on the road to recovery very soon xxxx

BabyBlue Lovely house, wow at the amount of snow you had last year, hope its not that bad for you this time round. All that shovelling is a killer

Hope Sofia is better behaved for you tonight

Dal Another mega post from you Glad you are feeling a little better on the iron tablets. My fingers are crossed for you that you don't go two weeks overdue

NC Hope you get stuff sorted with OH soon, but totally understand how you feel. My DH has a far greater sex drive than me and at the moment I just don't feel like it either, its usually once every two weeks at the moment, he is trying to be patient with me and doing very well at the moment but they do still make you feel guilty don't they! Which is the worst thing to do because I don't know about anyone else, it makes me not want it even more vicious circle.

Glad you have talked to the teachers, if only to set your own mind to rest, and good that they are going to try and encourage more exercise. Is it going to her dads that is also affecting her eating? Doesn't sound like there is anything positive about her seeing him at the moment. I hope you get this sorted soon. As I have said before you are doing a great job in difficult circumstances, I just don't know how you are managing college too!

Inzi You have made a step in the right direction regarding Jane, but as others have said try little steps first, let her go for a few hours in the day before rushing into an overnighter.

I however am farming the boys off to my MiL on Friday for the night so we can go out, again!! I would go nuts if I was stuck with them 24/7

Muppet - Hope you are feeling better, caught up with sleep and illness gone

WWAJC Glad you enjoyed your Spa day, you deserve it

Hope I haven't missed anything important from anyone else

well, I think Henry has decided he doesn;t need an afternoon nap anymore
he just gets straight out of bed and comes to gate and either chucks stuff out, rattles it or just shouts. He's getting better at bedtime and I only had to return him once last night. I don't think I can fight both battles as I'm worried any time I put him to bed he'll just get out. I'm thinking of trying a travel cot but not sure.

BB -love your photos! I'm glad our snow's gone, I'm not really a fan after a couple of days. It before it's just rainning here at mo...

LLL - I'm like that re knowing dh wants it more puts me off. and Dal, I agree with needing to feel close to dh before I fancy sex and at the mo I really feel that he's on another plannet. Yes, he's looing to move jobs but it feels like he thinks of nothing else and then it's 'hi hon, do you fancy it tonight?' just as I'm changing a nappy or mopping the floor. I want to say 'no, quite frankly I just want a sit down with a cup of tea!'

Feeling better today although throat is still sore. Ollie not good and school have suggested that he doesn't do fri afternoons. He was exhausted by 2 yesterday and she said she can tell when he's not great as he goes very pale. Deesn't bode well as this was the first day back after half term.

Need to go Toby is calling, back later..

Afternoon ladies, a rare occurance for me to be on here at this time, i'm usually having an afternoon nap with Dylan! Not too tired so have stayed up to wrap ebay parcels and MN

Floria - Hi! Hope you're doing ok

BabyBlue - Sounds like you had a bit of a frazzled day yesterday what with all the screaming and crying when you tried to eat! Hope you've regained some energy over night.

Wow at all the snow in your pics! Must be fun for the kids but not so much fun shoveling out of the way... We used to live up on a hill and it was a bit like that in winter there, had a great time in the snow as kids!

Your house is absolutely lovely by the way!!

LLL - Going anywhere nice on fri? Thanks for crossing your fingers for me

Muppet - Dylans afternoon nap is hanging by a thread too although he still needs to need it some days... I'm still putting him down for it but if we're out and about we kinda just go with it and see if he lasts till bed time. He definately goes to sleep a bit quicker at bedtime if he hasn't had a nap but he has a god sleep in the aft when I do put him down so it's 6 and 2 3's really...

I totally feel the same when dh is in the mood and i'm not, just feel like saying 'actually i'd really rather just read my book and have some chocolate' Of course feeling like a beached whale doesn't help at the moment so he's having to do without at the moment, poor thing, i'm trying to keep him ticking over with little treats now and then . I'm sure i'll be jumping on him soon to try and get this baby out though!

Sorry you've still got a sore throat, hope it's better soon.

Poor Ollie, must be worrying for you, hope he perks up and gets his energy back soon.

Dylan has his swine flu jab later today, dreading it cause I don't want to see him in pain . We had a tough time deciding on whether to have him done, especially as it's now saying on the news the pandemic is over . Anyway, we decided better to be safe than sorry so we're just gonna go for it, got him a little toy car to cheer him up after

Trying to decide whether to go paint some of the hal or sit here and read my book , currently reading 'toxic parents', very apt, really interesting...

I posted an epistle this morning...where did it go????

Inzi; I'm not at all surprised you got emotional about the idea of Jane being away for the night, you were very brave even contemplating it feeling the way you do...take it one step at a time for your sake if not for hers... by the time the new baby comes you will be fine about it I'm sure.

WWAJC; glad the spa day was so relaxing and hope this week is a good start to a new and exciting chapter in your life.

BB; Wow at the snow last year..double wow at your house!..have to admit I'm glad we didnt get as much as you and even more relieved it has gone now..we get it so rarely we are simply not equipped for it.

LLL; have a fab night on Fri.

Sounds like a lot of us are out of sync with our DP/DHs in the bedroom dept atm and totally agree with Muppet about needing to feel close before wanting to be physical. It is hard to find time to connect as a couple with a child/children taking up time and energy for us and work often taking over. Our biggest prob. is Dh is a 'morning' person iyswim and with Alex toddling into our room at 5 or 6 am without fail every morning that just isn't going to happen is it? NC I hope the two of you can work out a solution...getting it all out in the open and talking about it is a very good start. Perhaps some counselling about your feelings about your grandad might be useful?

Muppet. I'm so sorry Ollie is still so tired...poor love..it just isn't fair at his age when he should be overflowing with surplus energy. Alex is trying to drop his naps too, but I have never been one to enforce them anyway, I just let him nap on the sofa so bed time is bed time..not very organised but it works for us. I think you are probably very right to pick your battles.

right this one had better post ...or else!

Hello Ladies

Bogwoppit(great name!)- give our love to Strawberry! Poor thing. Any news? (if you're still around)

Dal-Glad you're feeling a bit better from the iron, remember when we where havinbg piggies and I was having 3 doses of liquid iron a day? eugh! Hope you're keeping your fibre up
How was dylans jab? I'm still not sure what to do about Shannons...

LLL-What fun and frolicks you up to over weekend then?
Yup, going to her dads sefinately effects dds eating as him and all his family are overweight, and feed her fatty, greasy, sugary food all the time and have no concept of portion side. They're gonig to kill her with kindness and spite iyswim

Inzi-LOL! I didn't think about PP, but yeah, it probably is from that. Shannon's started talking loads more lately, I did put it down to me giving her omega 3 liquid, but then I realised I'd mis-read it, it didn't say Ages 1-3 like I read, it said over 3 and I'd been giving her 10ml a day No adverse effects that I can see luckily.

BB-Wow, your house is lovely
Hope the dcs are behaving, lol at Sophia fighting with her older brother, My 2 DDs are always fighting now, If I was a bit of a mean mummy, I may find it slightly amusing seeing my 9 yo getting beat up my 2yo, but I'm not.

Muppet-Sorry poor Olly isn't feeling too good, it must be so worrying for you. I hope he improves really soon.

Re-sex. I've never been one for having a high sex drive and mostly would prefer to curl up with a good book or most especially, sleep! My interest tends to wane pretty quickly in relatioships, probably why I find myself single more often than not. If he's annoyed me, it can put me off for weeks, and I'm not really a touchy feely person. Anyway, we've had a chat and are going to see how it goes with these tablets, although one of the side effects is reduced libido can't be reduced much more lol.

FT-Doc did offer counselling but I think I'd really struggle for time at the moment, so again I'll see how I go with the tablets and maybe see about counselling after my exams, assignments etc.
I tried to text you earlier but for some reason I don't have your number. Alice isn't able to make it, so I text WWaJC and she's happy to change it mid way, so maybe that play centre at Castleford?

NC - fluxetine suppressing appetite sounds useful - might have to try some . Hope Shannon's abs kick in soon - sinus problems can be so painful. Good that dd1s teachers hadn't picked up any bad behaviour but that they'll keep an eye on things - did that put your mind at rest? How easy will it be to get her active? Are there things she enjoys? Anya does counting/hide and seek too - yes, Peppa Pig probably to blame for most things - she's picked up "deeeeelicious" from there too.

Bogwoppit - thanks for giving us the news on Strawberry. Sending lots of get well thoughts from here.

Dal - good that Dylan is getting used to new baby idea. The book and presents sound great. Hope Dylan's jab went ok - Anya was fine after hers, just really sleepy the day after.

BBlue - what a rough night - at least you've got one cooperative child! Hope you enjoyed the hot chocolate and the hockey.

Muppet - it's such a shame when you lose the afternoon nap isn't it? I used to get so much done in that hour. Glad you're feeling better. about Ollie - at least the school are being supportive and helpful.

About Thursday - NC, I did forward your text to FT and then the one that I sent to you I sent to her as well - she replied that Castleton makes sense - don't know if she sent that to you as well? FT - actually shall we car share? I found out yesterday, flicking through the new car booklet, that you can't put child seats in the middle back seat , so I've had to move Anya's to a normal seat anyway. I tried phenergan on her last night too and it doesn't send her hyper so I can give her some before we come back (although Castleton's quite a bit nearer than York so might not need to bother). Only thing is that the car seat is a b**r to get in - it takes ages to thread the seatbelt through this really tiny gap, but I'm sure I'll cope, even if the air turns blue for a while!

Anya had a ENT check-up today - saw the consultant rather than a registrar so we were honoured. Anya let him check her ears and even her mouth/tonsils and he was really happy - no glue ear or inflamation or anything, which is good news.

Off to do the ironing now .

WWaJC-That's good news about Anya's check up, Shannon giggled at the doc checking her chest and temp yesterday. Not heard from FT but I plan to get there around 10-10.30, dependent on traffic and roadworks, but am going to have sil with me so no worries if you're both a bit later than that or whatever. It'sthis one isn't it?
I'm not sure how easy it will be to get dd active, a combination of encouragement, bribary and nagging will probably be needed.

Sorry Ladies, I forgot to pass on Alices' best wishes to everone earlier, she sent her love to all via text

So I had a much better day today! Kids were behaved for the most part so very little aggravation was needed on my part! I took Sofia out for a ride in her sledge before nap. That and snowman making used up her energy nicely! We had a cup of hot chocolate when we came in, and she was off to bed. I am very fortunate, in that she still naps for between 2 and 3 hours per day. Without, she is a bear! My problem is, Marco doesn't sleep at the same time usually, so I never get a break to do chores (or have a nap myself).

Glad you all enjoyed my snow pics . Thank you for all the house compliments I love my home (even though it is getting rather crowded with all these DCs!!).

Dal- how are you feeling? Glad to hear the iron is helping things. LOL at chasing DH down for a shag to 'help things along'
Hope Dylan's jabs went ok... Sofia was a nightmare after hers. Our swine flu dose for under 3 year olds is in two parts, one month apart. She ended up with a fever of 104 degrees both times. She was actually hallucinating! Scared me nearly to death! Lasted for most of the night and then she was fine in the morning.

And speaking of sex - I am totally on board with the lack of drive thing. We have been going through a 'famine' here for quite some time. I was told that BF kills sex drive... but having 4 DCs keeping you up half the night and messing up the house so I have to kill myself cleaning it must surely be a factor as well DH calls me a camel... I can go long stretches without! LOL. He is lucky if he sees any action once a week! Myself, I would prefer a chocolate martini, and a good book! (Its a wonder we have so many kids )

Bogwoppit - Hope Strawberry is feeling better and is home soon.

LLL - I totally agree about farming off the DCs. I do it when possible, even if its just a couple of them at a time! Its good for them to be away from us, and I dont have to tell you how much we need it!! So what date have you got planned for the weekend??? I am looking forward to going to a bridal shower with my DD1 and leaving the rest with DH at home. She is at that age where she wants to do 'adult' things, so it will be nice.

WWAJC - Hope you are adjusting well to being single again. I found it ironically funny that you celebrated his leaving with a spa package that he bought you!! How fitting!!! Glad Anya had such a good check up.

NC - Feel badly for DD1. If everyone on his side is feeding her all this crap (pub food no doubt), no wonder the poor girl is gaining weight. And the fact that it is now on your shoulders to remedy that, is not nice. Is there any activity that the 2 of you can do together that you both enjoy? My DS1 and I run together. Its our time together with no one else around.

BMummy - How are you feeling?

to anyone I have missed

Morning
I have lost your mobile no. too NC
I fb'd you and WWAJC this morning, basically repeating what you have just said and asking what time you wanted to meet up..no need to reply on that then.WWajc..I'm happy to car share (note to self; clean car...quick!) We have a spare seat in Dhs car I can put in if you like to save the swearing..though quite understand if you would rather use your own

BB;sounds like you had a lovely time playing in the snow...As to Sophias reaction to the SF jab; how very frightening I'm so glad Alex just had a sore arm. Chocolate martini sounds lush!!!! I think I'd preferr one of those to sex too and I've never tasted one!!!The bridal shower with DD1 sounds like a lovely way to have mother and daughter time and you manage to run with DS1 too?It sounds like you do a marvelous job of splitting yourself equally between them all!!

Bogwoppit; any news on Strawberry yet?

Forgot to add; Dal I hope Dylan is ok after his jab and that you don't go too far overdue (though I must say your lovely neat bump is looking a bit high and comfortable to be imminent but what do I know?)

Love back to Alice (thanks for passing on the msg NC)... and very sorry we wont be seeing you tomorrow. I hope you can get a minute to come and chat with us soon.
We haven't heard from Crochet (hope you had a fab birthday yesterday) for a bit and we haven't heard from Chocstar/stefka for ages... I do hope you are both all alright and it is just rl that is keeping you from us (not boredom)