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AUG 08 - Toddzilla vs Mum-ra!

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cyteen · 13/01/2010 22:13

Once more with feeling

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TwilightSurfer · 31/01/2010 01:18

since my last post i gave a lecture on good behavior vs bad behavior which included a sermon on the fact that behavior is a choice. through your choices you can be happy or sad since good behavior is typically rewarded with smiles which make you happy and bad behavior is punished which make you sad.

for the first part of that i endured with screams and pushes and fingers in her ears and tongues sticking out and snooty back talk and just complete utter rudeness. once she realized that i was going to repeat: "good-rewarded, bad-punished" ad infinitum, she eased off the rude behavior a little bit.

we actually made it over the mountain that is "i'm not listening to you", through the valley that is "i'm not going to respond to anything you say", across the river that is "i know everything and you know nothing", and found a nice spot on the plateau of back and forth communication in a civil tone.

i pulled out my buddha power for all this. zen surrounded me like a bright glowing orb.

that's not to say i didn't loose my cool at the beginning of the incident when she tried to kick the shit out of her door once i closed it. i feel bad for reacting to that negatively but told her without hesitation that that kind of behavior makes me extremely angry.

i even went so far as to ask if she ever saw her father and i yelling at each other. she replied "no". that led me to ask her why she thought it was okay to yell at me or anyone else. i went on to ask do either of your parents fuss, whine, cry, or scream to get anything. again the response was "no".

where or where does all this come from? i'm loosing faith in the idea that "children are clay that parents mold" and beginning to believe "children have a preset mannerism that parents have to tweak, like braces on teeth, in order to help them become civilized individuals."

luckoftheirish · 31/01/2010 07:46

morning ...

got home at 1.30 from 70s night dd1 woke up and wouldn't go back to sleep, got to bed at 2 asleep for 2.30 and dd2 woke up at 6.25am!!! arghhhh..

have spent the last hour trying to download the feckin pic of me in my silly dress on here and it won't work.. will try facebook.. a million more will appear on fb throughout the day for those who are bored!!!!

the boots i wore killed me from the moment i put them on (did bring my slippers in my bag) but in true loti style i was a trooper and didn't take the feckers off once.. now can hardly walk,eyes red raw and struggling.. twas a great night!!!

GladioliBuckets · 31/01/2010 10:01

My DD has asked if the two of us can do the 5k Race for Life this summer. I don't know how to respond because a) I don't even have any trainers b) running is like chequebook balancing and bikini waxing to me - just don't get it and c) she is v similar and whines all the 15minute walk home from school, has never walked 5k in her life. Has made me think that perhaps a hike around the route to see what 5k is like, just the two of us, might be quite nice actually. Off to find the shoes with the lowest heel now...

TS Your hairdresser will say don't do it because of the regrowth and difficulty getting rid when you want to change (although would be extra £££ for him/her to rescue it). Unless you were thinking of getting a much shorter cut in the next year or so...?

oopsandbabycoconut · 31/01/2010 10:22

Just popping on to say we have made it back from the bush safe and well apart from a little sunburn pink skin and a few mossie bites on DH. We have had an amamzing time with no computers,blackberry, phones or contact with the outside world we didn't initiate! DH now watching telly, DD fast asleep after being dragged kicking and screaming from the beach (yet again) yelling 'water, walk um me a water' and 'buckeeeeeeet mine buckeeeet, sand in it' She has been an absolute dream and travelled well and we all survived a night in a 'motel' from the 1970's where they did some truely terrible things to the freshly caught fish we saw them haul off the boat. I have never been so pleased to get somewhere I could cook us a meal - everything in the last few days has been served with chips - pie with chips, fish with chips, chicken salad - with chips, this morning even DH's brekker came with chips! I HATE CHIPS (please remind me of this in 6 week when I am trying to persuade DH to buy fish and chips!)

Have tried to catch up but failing on account of no brain.

Miamla - Happy belated birthday.

Dizzy - loving your DD2

Sorry to hear about challenging older siblings.

Everyone else Hellooooooo

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alittlebitshy · 31/01/2010 10:24

I keep having the giggles about dizzy's dd2!!! That is a truly brilliant story!!! From the orders flung at the men to operation troos!!!! .

TwilightSurfer · 31/01/2010 12:15

Buckets I'm am totally with you on the foreignness that is 5K. I know since Reese's birth I've done one complete mile definitely once (because I was at the track), maybe more than once (hard to tell around the neighborhood), but THREE MILES. The desire was their briefly to accomplish the distance. Now I just want to finish the drywall repair madness that I started in my hall bath.

Sazzles it is true, DH & I don't fight or yell and very rarely (me more than him) raise our voices to each other. We did, I think, at some point in our relationship. Somewhere towards the beginning. But we were seven years married (eleven years together) when dd1 was born. As of 2010, those numbers are 13 years married and 17 years total together. That said, I honestly believed our calm, even temperedness, would be a positive model for child rearing. Instead we are reduced to her yells at us and occasionally our yelling responses. Grrrrrrrrrr!!!! Sorry your dd1 caused issues at breakfast. It's a daily thing here and I HATE IT!

Both girls' up and playing in their room. DH still snoring. I'm sitting her typing with a headache. Might try to snooze a bit more.

pertelote · 31/01/2010 12:47

TS sorry DD1 is giving you a hard time. I'm quite sure your relationship IS providing a good model for her and as she grows up she will instinctively choose to have similar relationships herself, including with you... eventually Tough meanwhile though, I know.

I have a rare moment's quiet here with DD napping and DH out at ANOTHER rehearsal. He did let me sleep in though which was very welcome - Friday night was awful (I see I was not alone in this...) and I went round yesterday in a complete haze. Knocked a lot of tins over in the corner shop when I went out for a paper, very . As soon as DD was in bed last night I went myself, so with the lie-in as well I have had eleven hours sleep and feel fairly human! Once DD wakes up I will take her to the park (grand opening of new playground!) and wear her out in hope of another good night tonight...

Oops so glad you're having fun! You'll be glad to know it's still very cold here...

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TwilightSurfer · 31/01/2010 14:27

Strawberry/Blueberry Pancakes all around. They were delish so I thought I would share. Honestly there's always too much batter.

Reese said she was done with her plate but once free from her booster seat she climbed into DD1's empty chair to finish her leftover pancakes. Same pancakes...

Would like to go to pilates this morning but will just wait till certain all the black ice is gone. I'm too necessary for any type of minor set back.

Back in bed now. Both of us on laptops with wriggling, giggling girls between us. There's a whole room full of toys next door.

TwilightSurfer · 31/01/2010 15:52

W1D1 C25K complete!
Translation: Week 1 Day 1 of the Couch to 5K program....I walked and sprinted for 25 minutes. Followed by 10 military push ups.

DH clean the girls room while I exercises. Sweet man!

TwilightSurfer · 31/01/2010 15:53

my editor just commented that i'm horrible. he needs to move along and quit reading over my shoulder.

TwilightSurfer · 31/01/2010 20:21

did my piss poor typing skills cause all to run away or are you all over on HotMamas?????

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TwilightSurfer · 31/01/2010 21:07

I'm just glad I found a few friends. Everyone appeared to suddenly have a life the one time of late that I was around to chat. Now Reese is up from her nap so I'm limited again.

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pertelote · 31/01/2010 21:53

I think VG that if I had actually had as much sleep as I had Friday night, back then in the newborn days, I'd have thought it was a fantastic night! I'm just out of the habit... but the reminder made me think why on earth I want to put myself through that again, though I will of course... (current plan is as per Buckets' advice to someone - Hots? - , cross my legs til xmas, but want to move house first so we'll see how long that takes...)

Sazz I don't think DD is teething. Don't know what it is, she goes down ok most nights as long as she doesn't nap later than 3pm, but if she wakes up she is guaranteed to be up for two hours and however dark and quiet I keep it she shouts and cries for 'light' and 'book', and 'cuddle' if she's in the cot or 'cot' if she's picked up...

Pancakes sound good. Must be Shrove Tuesday soonish mustn't it?

hotterpotter · 31/01/2010 22:26

Evening all

Yes it was me Pert that Buckets advised waiting until Christmas, sadly I am really knocking on now (will be 41 on Miamla's wedding day ) so can't really afford the delay

Had a lovely day, we were going to Tropical World in Leeds but some ace friends called in unexpectedly for a couple of hours, then my sister came round and played with the DC, who adore her, while I cooked up a storm in the kitchen. Date with DH after DC in bed and now I am watching the last Gavin & Stacey again while he lists stuff on ebay

pertelote · 31/01/2010 22:36

I won't ask you to wait and aim for another twinning then Hots! Sounds like a lovely day. DD also adores her aunt, and uncles, and I have just heard today that my DB is now dating his long-time friend and housemate! Very sweet, he deserves a relationship that works for a change so I hope this is it.

Ok bedtime. Night all.

hotterpotter · 31/01/2010 22:39

LOL Pert, that would be cool though

Night night.

poppysocks · 31/01/2010 23:04

Evening ladies.

May I say that the devil child thing has spread as far as our house too. Poor DD2 has five, yes five, teeth coming through and the brightest red cheeks. Also a runny nose, rattly cough and gunky eyes. Translation - grumpy as hell. No such excuse for DD1 but just whiney and tantrumy (just when I thought we were finally leaving that phase behind us) . Mucho sympathy coming your way TS, red and dizzy (although laced with a healthy dose of hee, hee, hee for your DD2 dizzy [wink)).

I'm mightily impressed by the educational sessions with DD pertelote. I always suspected I might be a competitive, coaching Mum. In reality, no chance. Laziness AND impatience . While I still place huge importance on teaching right/wrong, politeness and courtesy and kindness/empathy, that seems to be where it ends for me. DH and I have always agreed that the two things we want to give our girls are confidence and opportunity. At this stage hopefully just providing a happy home will be working towards the first of our aims at least.

Am sure I've missed loads, so many apols. Feeling pretty stressed about work - my most stressful time of year anyway but add new boss into the mix and I suspect I won't sleep much tonight. Should be up and running in 10 days though so I'd appreciate any crossed fingers you can share until then. Eek. Just hoping DD2's general snot-oozing doesn't cause the nursery to send her home....

Oh, and going nowhere remotely interesting. To my Mum's while the kitchen is done in March. Thank you for the vote of confidence dizzy (if not in Ryanair ). Yes, must meet up soon. Will be in touch offline.

TwilightSurfer · 01/02/2010 00:13

((((HUGS)))) Poppy, you've got a lot on your plate yet you sound so solid and calm. I'm very impressed.

HP I'm already on pins and needles waiting until your first possible test date.

VG & Pertelote I am wishing you both a deep deep restful sleep tonight.

Guess I could wish that for everyone really.

Until tomorrow....today.

springaporesling · 01/02/2010 02:48

I too am supposed to be doing a 5k but it is on Saturday - DH kindly signed me up last year sometime when I was full of good intentions drunk am slightly worried about this now but nevermind. It is through the zoo and nightsafari so no doubt I'll get bitten to death by all the mozzies!

Dizzy LoL at DD2.

Oops glad you had a good time in the bush

Poppy - you can have a few spare/share fingers from me we have a fair few teeth coming too and it is no fun and I only have one to worry about - that also goes for all you with older ones - not trying to put us off are you?!

Buckets is the job the MN one?

Have been a bit awol recently as DS not been on best form (teething, still recovering from chest infection got bad constipation from the ab's and not eating much and generally grumpy) plus I was studying and taking a STEP (Society of Trust & Estate Practitioner's) exam. I was thoroughly exhausted by Friday. This wasn't helped by DH going out on Thurdsday night and not getting in till 3.30am when he promptly woke DS up. He didn't really get out of bed till I got home from work at 1pm (DH that is). I then had a playdate with another MNetter which was lovely but I was just so tired so not sure we made the best impression as DS decided he wanted to go home after about an hour and kept saying bye bye, go and mome (home) plus dragging me by the hand to the door.

Anyway after all that we had a lovely weekend. DH took DS for his swimming class on Saturday morning so I got to have a rest and go to the gym. I went to the hairdressers and to have leg and bikini wax whilst DS was napping then DH took him to the zoo for the rest of the afternoon. They had a great time and I had a bit of a rest.

Yesterday we met some friends at the Children's Garden in the morning and had a picnic there. DS loved playing in the water area and was on great form- hopefully all better now. We then had a lazy afternoon and took DS for a swim together and DH cooked dinner for us.

Oh and DS has given up bfing. After all my worrying about having to go cold turkey when he had the chest infection he couldn't seem to suck properly and since then hasn't been bothered. The first couple of nights he just had one suck then turned away and now I don't even offer.

Wow that was long - hope you are all happily sleeping now....

luckoftheirish · 01/02/2010 07:42

MORNING ..

spring sounds like you had a lovely weekend in the end ..

poppy.. hope dd2 teeth comes thru quickly and work resolves itself soon.. brave hard working girl ...

lol dizzy at dd2 ...

hectic weekend for me.. ending up yesterday with a lunch out for sil b-day.. massive dd2 meltdown.. she screamed in the resturant for 2 hours.. generally ran amuk.. so dh and i at wits end due to little sleep the night before and slightly sore head... she then fell asleep at 4.45pm!!! it appears that she is dropping her only nap in the day again..

thought that maybe her for the night.. oh no.. 9pm awake thinking it was morning.. managed to get her back down by 10 but feeling it today!!!

sorry that was quite long and boring post by me

GladioliBuckets · 01/02/2010 08:10

Sounds like some busy weekends then .

I can confirm that DD will not be doing the 5k - we did an hour's walk over the common (where the race is) yesterday and she whinged and wailed and practically walked backwards for the last 15mins. However, I will deffo be doing it, the paths on the common have km markings which is helpful so I might have a try on my own next weekend. Will be looking for bargain trainers on Littlewoods site later.

SS Nope good guess but I can't do sales to save my life. Will know in a couple of weeks if I get it.

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