May 09 - The Sleepless Babies Club, All Dubious Fashions Welcome

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Ladies.

Morning all

R and I are ill. It's flu without the snot. Sore throat and aching body. I spent most yesterday in bed and feel slighty better today. DH is working today so I have to be up and on duty.

Muddled sorry to hear you have been feeling blue. Have you spoken to anyone about it?

Weaning I gave the DCs spaghetti and meatballs last week and they loved eating the spaghetti. Also they LOVED llare's Goulash so did DH and I. Saying that DD (2.2)is so fussy now and when we had roast lamb yesterday she only had brocolli and cheese sauce. She had a tiny piece of lamb at the end but nothing else. Brocoli is her favourite food in the world. R ate everything and loved it.

Ses How is Megan? I still chuckle at poogate

Hi to everyone else.

Morning all.

Well, DD1 seems much brighter today. She was sick three more times in the night (but very quietly, neatly and with no fuss at all, bless her) but she's eaten a slice of toast this morning. I've cancelled all social stuff for the day as I've got no idea if she's got anything contagious. The rest of us aren't ill, and we haven't been in contact with anyone since Thursday so no idea what she's got.

The big problem we have now is getting all the washing dry, the machine has been on twice overnight and it's chucking it down here, and the airer is already full!

MOrning everyone. Thank you so much for all your helpful advice re. weaning. I think being first baby I am probably normal being a little over anxious!! It is great to get advice and reassurance from all you old hands/experts!
I can't believe how many bugs are going round. I looked at my tonsils this morning and they are all pussy - tmi!! And M is still coughing and so snotty. His sleep is getting so disturbed poor thing. I am hoping he is napping now and not chatting to bunny in his cot.
flippin I hope your dd is better today, poor her and febes sounds like we have the same thing. M and I both had temps yesterday of around 39, pretty high I think, but def improved today. I am going to take us both off to my mum's when M wakes up so we can be looked after!
daizy I am sorry you have been feeling down. When we were having all the probs with M's allergies and he was losing weight and not eating or drinking anything I got really down and my GP said I had situational depression, if there is such a thing. Just talking to her was amazing and getting her understanding. Since we have new milk and M seems to have improved so much it has definitely lifted, but still have my moments.
spangle hope H is better today.
fi glad you had a good refreshing night, I am looking forward to one of those
And hello everyone else. Hope you have lovely days, probably won't be on again until tonight as will be out at my mum's. BUt thank you for welcoming me back!

looby dh & i got frisky sat night & tbh i think we've only managed one other time since G arrived even though i had a cs it's still a bit uncomfortable at first but i was like this after ds so i know it's just lack of action in that department and when we've got the urge regularly it'll sort itself out! sorta puts me off at first though.

flippin glad dd is brighter this am.. how about slinging the sheets over your doors (just wipe the tops down first or you'll get tram lines of dust on them).

febes oh no try and take it easy and hope you're both feeling better soon.

HtheH take it easy at your mums & had another thought... for a delicious rice pudding how about making a thai version using coconut milk & coconut cream to make it? it's one recipe i've always meant to try but not got round to.

M and I are both snotty and sneezy today hope she gets better by the end of the week as she's having her SF jab

Got a meeting later with mums docs to talk about sending her home again with care my dad is in denial about her dementia I think, he seems to think that if we show her photo's etc she will get better. Don't know how he's going to cope when/if she goes home just hope we manage to get enough help.

Morning all,

flippin spangle HTH febes Hope you and/or your lo's are feeling better soon. Take it easy today

flippin I tend to dry our sheets by hanging them over the banister of the landing. They can hang open quite nicely that way. Otherwise there's always the chairs near the radiator option. We haven't got a dryer either and if I do more than 2 loads a day and it's not good outdoor drying weather, then I'm in trouble too.

HtH You can always count of fi for delicious recipes

spangle Your comment about H having a red rash around his mouth everytime he has dairy has made me think. C seems to have that too. It's only when I saw your comment that I made the connection. Hmm, maybe she's got a slight dairy intolerance too. Might explain her dislike of fromage frais, but on the other hand she loves philadelphia . I think I'll keep a close eye on it and see what happens.

I was a teeny weeny bit with DH this a.m. He pressed snooze on his alarm clock 4x and then snored between the alarm going of waking me and C quite early. After a broken night (which I now know was caused by DH having a bad night and disturbing us both) I really could have done without that. Don't know when I'll have a decent night's sleep ever again.

Today is a quiet day. Mostly putting some stuff on eBay and adapting the search for an ap to include more nationalities (i.e. rewriting our family profile in English). It's really annoying how this time around we're struggling to find someone. I think it might be the extra child, you know

Just want to test the biscuit. [bbiscuit]

Nope, still not working.

Hi all, thanks for the concern about H. He seems a bit better today, no vomiting for over 12 hours and has kept his night-time and morning feeds down, so I'm not panicking about dehydration. I think I'll give his rhythm time class a miss though in case it's anything contagious/infectious. There is another mum I'm friendly with and H loves grabbing hold of her DS and 'kissing' him (bit his finger the other day ) and I don't want H passing on his germs.

flippin glad your DD is better this morning. We are having the same problem with laundry. I was a bit behind anyway, but yesterday H was producing dirty laundry faster than I could get it washed and dried. May have to think about getting a drier if/when this machine packs up.

Febes and HtheH hope you and babies are feeling better soon.

muddled sorry you've been feeling down. I bet lack of sleep is a big factor. H is a dreadful sleeper too.

Grr there's a lorry delivering a skip outside and it's woken H from his nap.

Belgina I feel like that too re sleep.

I was a bit cross with DH this morning too. He was looking after H while I got dressed and letting him play in a corner of the room where there are a few hazards (of course this is H's favourite place to play!) - fine, but he was sitting back in a chair rather than being on hand to stop H falling on something sharp/grabbing things he shouldn't. Even worse, when I looked in on him a few minutes later DH had his eyes closed, dozing in the chair.

Lots more grrrs at DHs out there!

looby - it all sounds really hard for you. have a hug.

I've managed to get the washing spread out around the house - luckily after the first time DD was sick I put towels on the bed, on top of the sheets, so each time I only had to change the towel, iyswim - haven't got enough sheets otherwise! And the bonus is that it's quicker to change the bed and towels take up a bit less space than sheets.

A is fast asleep, she was fighting her nap all morning, and of course when I had a shower (with DD1 so it took ages) she howled tthe whole time.

flippin- hope DD1 is feeling better. With S being sick over himself, me, our superking bed 4 times I had loads to wash too, and I somehow managed to do 7 washing loads over the weekend. I have 2 landings, so use the bannisters for sheets and towels, then have a traditional airer on the kitchen ceiling like this and a great airer like this, and two radiator airers. I also ended up with clothes on hangers everywhere too! Now i just need to put everything away.

S is currently playing with a long modelling balloon from one of DDs parties this weekend. I am just waiting for the tears if it bursts... He also had a major paddy when I took his favourite toy (my laptop cable) away.

I am having a dilemma. S last had diarhea (sp) yesterday around 4pm (no dirty nappies yet today). Officially he shouldn't return to nursery for 48 hours after any sickness/diarhea, so shouldn't really go tomorrow. He hasn't been sick since 7pm Sat. I would love to take the day off tomorrow to be with him, but as I have only been back at work a week I don't want to get labelled as the new mum who doesn't come in when her DC has a bit of a bug. What would you do?

That's a difficult one pula TBH In the same situation in the past I have sent my dc back to school. When I was doing my training my absense used to be scrutinised closely and a sick dc wasn't a good enough reason apparently

spangle I think DH's don't always see danger where us mums do. The amount of times DH allows the dcs to do things that I consider dangerous is amazing. Usually I picture broken necks/arms/legs as soon as they ask me to do xyz. He also put C on a rocking horse before xmas sometime without holding on to her and then rocked the horse . My heart stopped.

Dd1's toy lizard (don't ask) was lying about on the floor and as I'm typing C was reaching and reaching to try and get it and she's now done it! She didn't quite crawl, but did a good belly wriggle/stretch . C's also loving the dolmio ads on telly, whenever they come on she watches the telly and grins!

Right, time to carry on with the eBay work.

Hi all.

pula take him and not mention it!! Naughty perhaps but he could be well on the mend now. Obviously if he is poorly between now and tomorrow, that would not be the advice I would give, but if he's ok between now and then, I think I would take him in.

muddled sorry to see you are feeling down. I hope you feel better now. DO you think its tiredness related?

spangle febes flip HtheHand anyone else who has poorly little ones, hope they are better. And didn't Jennster have another bout of poorliness again in her house recently?

So, Dh got back from "the Damage" last night in suprisingly good shape but that was prob down to no beer yesterday. I think Saturday turned into an all dayer in the end. I couldn't do it anymore. Anyway I got a new pot of Clarins moisturiser too. I actually enjoyed having the DCs to myself! I did shout at DS1 on sat eve after he was bouncing around the sofa and fell on me, banging both our heads and knocking over the lamp (breaking it) and my specs (bending them). Then I felt awful for shouting so we had a cuddle watched some tv and he fell asleep snuggled up to me.

Oh god. look at the time. Got to go to the shops to get stuff for doing a cake to take into DS1s school for a coffee and cake thing tomorrow. I've not made a cake for ages. Wish me luck!!

pula it will be over 36h by the time he goes to nursery tomorrow so I would send him, provided, as you say, he isn't sick in the meantime. If it was me I would be thinking about 'saving' the days off work for when there wasn't an option IYSWIM.

BTW, do your DHs ever take days off to look after sick DCs? Just thinking about people I know in RL and it always seems to be the mums that take time off. I can't think of times when any of the dads at my place stayed off to look after DCs. . I intend for it to be a split between me & DH. In practice it'll be him who picks up H if he needs taking home during the day since I'll be in Manchester (or Birmingham, London, Leeds etc) but I think it will end up being me who takes a whole day off.

H has been sick once more today and just had one of those explosive poos where you just don't have enough hands to contain the mess - esp with a willy grabber - so he has had a dunk in the bath. More laundry

Good luck with the cake Headless. What type are you making?

hi all. just caught up reading whilst dd1&2 are in front of thetelly and H is asleep. can't manage to namecheck everyone but hope you're all well.

poorly babies, hope they're all feeling better. H has a nasty cold and has been miserable because of it but I think she's turned a corner.

Febes, hope you're feeling better soon. muddled, sorry you're down and hope you feel better as well.

belg, where do you find time for ebay?

i've got loads to sell but haven't found the time. have been doing the diswasher/laundry exchanging of loads (our tumble dryer broke so we're hanging things as well and far behind in washing), trying to salvage food in the fridge that is near/out of date so did a bit of cooking today. but that's all i got done and am sitting here now in the disaster that is our kitchen following lunch: banana peel, cheerios, peas scattered around and under the table, cake crumbs on top of the table, dirty dishes on the worktop... etc.

so why am I on MN? just needed a break.

oh darn, Mummy Quiet Time cut short... don't my DDs like telly ? got one sat on my lap now and the older one whingeing. this post may be cut abruptly (thank goodness, you say).

ladyH, I know you said you enjoyed having the dc's to yourself but my patience is now wearing thin. i feel like a censored script where someone bleeps out the swear words: DD1, what made you think that was a ffff (swallows word)good idea to empty the f(gulp) nail varnish into the tub? you little....

Thanks for the advice headless and belgina. In the past I have usually only waited 24hours if I am sure the DCs are over any bugs as 48 hours seems a bit excessive. He has since done a dirty nappy, which wasn't liquid but wasn't solid either. I think he is on the mend, but is a bit out of sorts today so I'm wondering if it might be teeth next (and he has a cold too so might be that). I might take the morning off and take him for the afternoon if he still seems cranky tomorrow. I know with DS1 i used to take him to nursery even when he didn't seem himself- many a time i have had a phone call (once when i just got into work ) to say to collect him as he has developed a rash/temperature/sickness.

Gosh lots of x-posts.

spangle- if its the odd day, i tend to take time off, but if it's a protracted illness, then DH will take time off too or work from home.

dandy- i know i whinge about my DH too from time to time, but he is very good really (i forget about all the nice things he does ). He does all the cooking, makes me cups of tea in bed in the morning and so on.

Better go get DD from school.

pula, xposted you. just back from dirty nappy fest. Hi!

i, too, am guilty of sending DD to nursery less than 48 hrs after v loose nappy. but , she seemed v well within herself at the time...

wow at your DH pula all the cooking, tea in bed

just back from meeting about my mother arrived there with my dad and as soon as mum saw him she left the room. Thought we were making progress but my mum got quite angry/upset and said she didn't want to go home to him. So after meeting with the doctor, nurses and social worker we are looking into putting her into residential care embarrased myself by crying in the meeting .

looby Sending you hugs. Must be so hard from you. If it's any consolation, once it's all sorted everyone will be happier again. The situation with my own GM was sorted last week and she's now been in a care/residential home for a week and my mum says she's thriving and very happy now. She was withering away in hospital and is blooming now, so maybe it's for the best. It must be upsetting for your dad to hear her say that sort of things though. But of course it's the dementia speaking and not your mum, IYKWIM.

Oh looby I am so sorry. What an awful thing to have to deal with especially as it is your mother. We are going through a similar thing with my granny at the moment. But there is no husband to worry about and being my grandmother I think maybe a bit easier. She is finding it very hard though in her more lucid moments, but oblivious the rest of the time. She was in hospital and now is back home with a full time carer. Social Services used to go in twice a day, but she was still hospitalised with dehydration and malnutrition etc. It wasn''t enough so we now pay £70 a day for a carer! It is unbelievably expensive, but luckily she can afford it. She refuses to leave her house and go into a home. She is now so happy and looks healthy and blooming, loving her great grandson and seems to want to live now, when before I am sure she was slowly trying to starve herself to death. Now she is happy and being looked after on her terms she has totally transformed.

Dandy I didn't know you were an author. What an exciting opportunity, even if a bit of hard work to adapt it. I write children's books (picture books), although haven't for a while! I used to be a teacher, so my advice on sick children is different to the rest of you! pula as a mum then I would say take him in as long as he hasn't been sick in the meantime, as a teacher I would say NO NO NO!! There was nothing worse than having a child brought back too early and either them passing it on to other children (especially weak, ill children - I had a little girl in my class with leukaemia once), pooing everywhere and you having to clean it up or worst of all and most selfishly giving the bug to the teacher!!! BUt you will know what is best and totally understand the difficulty with work etc. But keep quiet and make sure noone knows he has been ill!

Oh god, better go, M just choked on rice cake and has brought up water and mushy rice all over the sitting room floor!! Anyone else find that water makes their little ones burpy and sicky?!

HtheH - water definitely makes O burpy. I think it's because he's not v good at tipping his cup so often gulps in air.

Looby - I really feel for you. Wish I could wave a magic wand but sending you a blatant big hug.

Will try and get back on later to catch up on everyone else. O had a mega sleep this afternoon (due to a bad night last night) and so only just about to do bedtime now.