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Jan 2010 babies and mothers....come here to hibernate!

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mistletoekisses · 11/01/2010 09:45

New thread for us Jan 2010 mums. Will hopefully get busier as more of our little ones arrive!

Arrivals List
1st Dec - Missmarjoribanks - boy Thomas William Francis (33+4)
10th Dec - ClaireDB - girl Mira - 5lb 11.5oz (36+5)
11th Dec - Alibobins - boy Jacob, 6lbs 1oz (37weeks)
14th Dec - londonlottie - twin girls Juliet 6lb 1 and Eve 5lb 6 (35+5)
15 Dec - Whensmydayoff - girl Olivia - 6lb (36+6)
22 Dec - Liskey - girl Ellie - 5.5lbs
24 Dec - timmette/shinybaubles - boy Oliver - 7lb
25 Dec - Fakeplastictrees - boy Luke Edward
29 Dec - CantThinkofFunnyName - girl Olivia Iris - 6lbs 2 1/2oz
30 Dec - Liny - Nottinghamsire - girl Elise
1 Jan - TheMinnieBauble - boy Freddie - Weight TBC
2 Jan - nomorebboze - girl Megan - 5lbs 12oz
5 Jan - Fraochsmum - girl, name TBC - 6LBS 2oz
5 Jan - FlightofFancy - boy Edward - 6lb 14oz (37+3)
6 Jan - salvadory - girl Imogen
7 Jan - MistletoeKisses - boy Nicolas - 6lb 8oz
10 Jan- crumpette- boy 'babycrumpette'- 8lb 15 oz

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
sockmonkey · 15/02/2010 09:56

Ali & CTOFN - cuuuuuuute!
DD is still very dinky little. Family all amazed at how tiny she is... but cute with it. She looks bigger on photos apparently (the camera does add 10 lbs )
DH back at work today...and it's deadline week so he will be putting in some long days. DSs are on half term, so will be a bit of a baptism of fire to see how I cope with 3 on my own.

somewhathorrified · 15/02/2010 11:08

morning all, does anyone know if you are supposed to change baby feeding times or do they do it on their own? and when is this supposed to happen? Tobin's only 4 weeks so probably to young to be thinking like this and we're pretty much keeping everything baby led atm, just wondering really.

ali keep opening up to your DH, he may seem disinterested but I'm sure that's just because he doesn't understand just how big a deal this is for you. Also do you have a childrens surestart centre near you? They are great places to get help and support or just to get out of the house, they're also free which is a bonus.

Oooh Tobin smiled at me for the first time today, I only asked if he was going to do a poo. It really is the cutest thing and instantly stopped me longing for my bed.

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crumpette · 15/02/2010 17:45

gosh I'm so glad this is anonymous, the things I post about !

mistletoekisses · 16/02/2010 07:54

Ali - am glad you have told your DH about how you are feeling. Has he said anything? Your pics are incredibly cute btw!!!!

sock - how is your week alone with the three going? This is my first week alone with both DS's also - is quite manic tbh!!

SWH - 4 weeks is far too early to think about spacing feeds. I try and start thinking about it sometime after the 6 week growth spurt, until then I feed on demand. All the books say that breastmilk supply is still being established until then.

Crumpette - gotta love bubs. everytime you think you have them sussed, they go changing on you. hope you are catching up on some zzz's right now. Re. the bleeding, please go get checked out by the GP. I had this with DS1 and they swabbed me straightaway to rule out any internal infection. (which can be treated quite easily). How is your DP being with you? Any improvement?

Think it'll be quiet this week with mummys entertaining their DC's over half term.

I have a question. Nico certainly doesnt have colic - no hours of screaming etc. But he does wake up because of wind. Has become more noticeable in the last few days. Now if it because of a growth spurt, then I know it'll right itself in a few days. But does anyone else's LO wake themselves with wind? If so, are you giving them anything to alleviate it? We had a disturbed night last night because of it...and I know he would sleep for longer if it wasnt for the wind.

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sockmonkey · 16/02/2010 08:42

DH has given me his cold. Urgh I feel rough.
He compalined that I hadn't done any cleaning yesterday... argh!!

I managed to do a load of washing, wash up & feed the boys, plus have tea ready for when he got back from work.
The boys like to get all their toys out, play with 'em for 10 mins then get something else out, leaving original stuff on floor. I am constantly tidying after them, and between that a DD who seems to want to be perminantly attatched to my boob, I just can't seem to get anything extra done (apart from MN)

Crumpette - my bleeding is so bizzare. It seems to slow then go crazy again. MK might have the right idea and you need to see doc.

alibobins · 16/02/2010 09:06

Morning
Well my first day alone with all 3 Dc's also got one of Dd's friends coming for the day.

Jacob is a little grump today he's been grumbling since 5 this morning maybe due another growth spurt.

crumpette I stopped bleeding when Jacob was around 4 weeks and had a normal period not long ago so agree with others about seeing your gp.

sock hope you feel better soon

london glad you got the girls to settle I think thats Jacob's problem as he would sleep all day if you let him x

jardins · 16/02/2010 09:54

Morning!!

Right, I have a 'verging on TMI' question for all those mums breastfeeding 100%. Do you find that you pee less? Basically I am startled how, after sailing through the last weeks of pregnancy and the first 10 days after birth with no constipation, I have become constipated and need to pee surprisingly little. I thought I was drinking enough fluids but obviously not. I have upped my water intake since yesterday but am amazed how much I need to drink. Any reassurance would be gratefully received .

Re: bleeding I agree with Sockmonkey: mine seems to disappear completely and then comes back for a day or two. I am almost 3 weeks after birth. I have to admit I was surprised how heavy it could get at times but then it tails off.

CantThinkofFunnyName · 16/02/2010 11:00

Olivia very unsettled again. Wondering about contacting GP... Basically she's started absolutely screaming the place down after an ounce of milk as though in terrible pain. I hear the milk hit her stomach, her stomach grumbles as though starving (but only when feeding), she starts taking the bottle as though her life depends on it and once milk hits her stomach, it is an instantaneous blood curdling scream. Breaking my heart. I keep trying to get her to take the rest of the bottle but then she only wants her dummy. I'm thinking that she is now associating milk with pain.

She's also possetting up quite a bit of her feeds, what little she is taking so I keep veering towards thinking this is some kind of sporadic reflux issue?

So yesterday she had a 4oz feed at 5.30 - no problem, then 2 oz at 8.30, 1oz at 11.30, 1oz at 14:30, 4oz at 16:30 (I persevered through the screaming and managed to get her to take the rest), 1oz at 19:30 and then I couldn't get ANYTHING down her until 03:30 this morning when she woke and downed 4oz without a problem. She also feed at 06:30 on 4oz no problem and then the screaming started on the next feed at 09:30.

What to do, what to do? Slightly befuddled brain.....

sockmonkey · 16/02/2010 11:00

jardins - yes I pee less. I really ought to drink more... It's just finding time! My DM always told me I should have a drink while I feed. I have got a little bit constipated too. I was really on the ball at first with making sure I drank plenty, but have lapsed back to hardly having anything to drink.
Will have to try harder!

jardins · 16/02/2010 11:13

Blimey Sockmonkey - I'm a little slow on the uptake: I've just realised our babies were born on the same day! I must be knackered! Thanks for your response by the way.

Anybody else?

Biccy · 16/02/2010 11:53

Good lord fibilou I am impressed! Although, have to admit I wouldn't mind myself if it weren't for: finding a moment long enough in amongst 2 children, sore peri (even with no stitches!), and erm, wanting to do quite a lot more pelvic floor exercises before letting DP anywhere near and putting him off totally!

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somewhathorrified · 16/02/2010 13:16

jardins I find I'm drinking ridiculous amounts and having no constipation and peeing normally. I always have a pint of water with me when I feed and quite often find myslef necking another pint as I pass the kitchen sink! I'd guess I'm having around 5 pints of water a day and about 8 cups of decaff coffee too...suprised I'm not constantly peeing, but I'm not.

Biccy · 16/02/2010 13:47

Sockmonkey, just read your post about your DH complaining you haven't done any cleaning! Just to reassure you that I haven't done any cleaning either - as you say between running around after another child or two, doing the washing, the shopping, the cooking, plus breastfeeding & nappy changing, there just isn't time for cleaning. My kitchen floor is terrible, just about managing to sweep and spot clean, but it could really do with a mop. Etc. He is surely expecting far too much - with your children to look after, if your house were getting cleaned to 'normal' standards, you'd be doing the wrong things. IMO. Anyway, doesn't the postnatal literature the NHS give you say no strenuous house work for 6 weeks? Well, that's hoovering and mopping out for a start...

Newbeginning1 · 16/02/2010 14:25

Hi everyone, we hope you're all ok.

Londonlottie - baby bootcamp sounds good, i need to get firmer with DS but hes so cute its hard.

CTOFN - has Olivia been any better with her milk? My sister had it with her LO when she was wanting to suck on something but wasnt happy with getting milk and the drs said it was colic so she used to give her LO a dummy.

Jardins - yep, i pee less too but im not sure if its just i dont pee that much or whether its just not that much in comparison to being heavily pregnant.

crumpette - good stuff with Tobin smiling. Jack had been backed up and finally did an explosive poo (all over his new cream trousers) just before we were due at the hospital and as soon as he did it he did a little laugh and a massive smile.

mistletoekisses - Jack has awful wind, not only with it being trapped but also the smell! I try with his awake time cycling his legs like hes on a bicycle to try and get as much wind out as possible when hes up and also on a night after his bath circling his tummy round his belly button in a clockwise direction which helps wind and constipation etc.

Jacks still unsettled but i think its because hes overtired. We were up yesterday and he had 2 really good 2 hour long naps because we were out and about but as soon as we got home he was having none of it and was restless and so is even worse today.

I've got some more pills to try and get me on an even keel and the dr was really nice and specialises in mum and baby. He tried giving Jack a dummy but agreed and said he doesnt want it he wants boob. I love how he gets it but my HV's dont and keep trying to get him to have one Ive been told to stop the co sleeping as its not helping me be in a good place but DS is not happy with it. I tried to get him to sleep without sucking on me last night and he got himself so worked up, does anyone have any words of wisdom?

Also, where are you uploading the pics to?

sockmonkey · 16/02/2010 14:49

Just had to post what a clever girl Naomi is. She managed to do a poo that completely missed her nappy and instead shot down her leg. Maybe I should put her in G&T??

mistletoekisses · 16/02/2010 14:51

Hi - well i got the answer from my GP re. Nico, he actually said that wind problems most commonly start occuring in babies when they are about 6 weeks old. I thought it was much sooner. And colic doesnt have to be 3 hours screaming. It can be the symptoms i was describing as a very mild form, so have started infacol today. Lets see if it helps.

lottie hope your day is ok. we will get through these first few months and look back with nastalgia...honest!!

sock - no cleaning? really? your DH needs a little reality check!

Ali - hope your day with 3 is going ok. Mine with 2 is a little frazzled. One grizzling with wind as I type. The other screaming blue murder downstairs as he is refusing to come up where I am feeding Nico. Ahhh, the joys!

jardin - guzzling water, hardly peeing! am in the same boat!

ctfn - i would defo get to your gp and see what they say. I went for something else, but am glad that I spoke to him about Nico's wind.

Hope everyone else ok. Screaming has had a slight lull and is now a very sorry sounding mummy! Now I have to stay up here until he comes up as otherwise he will think a screamin tantrum gets him his way!!!

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flyingma · 16/02/2010 15:30

Lactaline's arrived and seems to do the job. Does anyone else have one - have a quick question re the diaphram which their helpline were not much help with in resolving.

Suction in nice and gentle which like a previous poster said was necessary in light of the nipple confusion/ chewing/ soreness I am being subjected to. Only 2 comments would be that the Cycle (frequency of the suck) seems a bit low on the highest setting but then again, I am not sure if the rate of suck affects the rate of let down. I do however have the world's slowest let down but then again I guess it is a machine afterall. That said, I am now getting milk out and carpal-tunnel-ridden hands get a rest. Second comment - you should probably get or fashion your own hands free bra/ holder to go with it if you are intending to pump both sides at once. Thanks all and Lottie.

Was hoping to drop the number of formula bottles from 5/6 which is pretty much the guideline total number of feeds he should be getting but to no success... apart from having replaced 1 bottle with EBM but will work to get that up.

So a bit less stress now as I have more or less resigned myself to EBF since nipple confusion has set in well and truly. At it's worst, I am being sucked on as if I were a bottle and at it's best (this week so far) he sucks till he gets the start of a let down then stops so does not get the rest of the milk that should come. Can't think when the last time he did a real proper feed but I guess once the EBM supply is in, I can work on that.

Trying not to feel guilty when I give him formula instead but seriously I'd rather I be able to pump out some BM for him rather than torture us both and not get much BM in him and write my nipples off completely. But in a week and a half he has moved from 25th to 50th percentile so that surely is a good thing. To celebrate his first month, I've put some old photos up as well (he's still fast asleep from last feed to have photos taken)

Fraoch and somewhat, I feel your pain - you should see the spectular way Aidan comes off the latch when he's finally been worked hard enough.

sock That sounds like a lot to take on... best of luck hun!!

ali Jacob is adorable... Aidan does that thinker thing as well. But we can only see it on the odd day-off-mittens as he just mauls his face otherwise and I am terrified of cutting wee fingernails.

mk I was going to say that I had the same problems re wind waking him up. I don't mind it so much during the day but when it's the middle of the night and I had given in to a 4oz of milk in order to get some sleep and this wakes him, it's all really frustrating. I'm blaming all the wind on the formula tho I find the Infacol does work - the wind waking up thing last happened last night coz I'd dropped the Infacol thinking we were in the clear of the last of the powdered milk feeds.

alibobins · 16/02/2010 15:32

Today has gone suprisingly well Jacob has slept all day only waking for feeds we had a walk to the park and going swimming after tea x x

ctofn it might be worth seeing your gp Jacob has been on the gaviscon for 2 weeks now and it has made some difference but he is still sick x x

CantThinkofFunnyName · 16/02/2010 16:25

Thanks everyone. Appointment just made with the GP for tomorrow morning. First feed this morning was fine, but second feed back to taking tinsy amount and then screaming. Third feed managed to get 3oz down her, no screaming . All very odd indeed. But then an hour later we had quite a bit of the feed back up, looking all cottage cheesy, which I have read to be a bit of a classic sign of reflux. So ultra . Like Lottie, I presumed it was something you either had or didn't so I'm grabbing at straws here wondering if it's a sporadic thing. It's not like I'm breasfeeding and therefore my diet is affecting her feed - or she's getting a varied diet - its SMA Gold morning noon and night for her!

Sock and Mistletoe - how are you both coping at home alone?

Somewhat - Olivia has definitely started smiling the past week too. Isn't it absolutely lovely? Everything before I just put down to wind, which tbh, it so clearly was. Now, she smiles when we tickle her cheek, if she's in the mood and basically if she's happy, which atm is not very often with the digestive thing going on.
I've also been trying to do a routine with Olivia for the past few weeks following the Baby Whisperer's EASY technique which says to follow a 3 hourly feed plan in the day and then cross your fingers at night, feeding only when they wake for hunger. After Eat, it's Activity time(for newborns this can just be looking at your face, looking at the wall, a light etc) and then Sleep, at which point the "Y" comes in, which is time for You.

It's more of a fixed order of doing things than a schedule. However, it doesn't always work and when she has her "digestive episodes" it really goes to pot on the 3 hour slots!

Lottie - I'll report back tomorrow after GP as certainly sounds a similar set of circumstances with your girls. I've tried feeding her upright, she's on slow newborn teats, she has a dummy, I rub her back, rub her tummy, cycle her legs, put her on her tummy to settle her, do lots of ssshhiing and patting - you name it. And I have to say, she is gnorring away at her dummy too - comfort for the pain I think - very fidgety too.

Newbeginning - great that you got some support from the GP. Re the co-sleeping, I don't have words of wisdom other than using a dummy - which I can see you and GP have already tried (sorry). I'm sure others here though will have tried and tested various other things so hoping someone can give you useful advice. As for pictures, we are uploading to "My Mumsnet*, go to your profile and photos...

So half term, DSS (14) has arrived from Dublin and is already "bored"; had a friend over for the day with her two little ones (4 and 2) which was lovely, DD1's friend to play - who is a right rude little madam and driving me totally mad and DS went out about 4 hours ago to play tennis! Houseful in other words.

Right - better go prepare kids tea and something WeightWatchers compatible for me (only lost 2lb in 2 bloody weeks - harumph)!

Mama2b5 · 16/02/2010 20:52

Hi all mummuys- so havent posted net was down!
my hugs goes out to all mummys having issues with sleeping LO's, wind issues,colic,not settling, catnaps,not eating,eating too much, explosion poo nappies,lochia,Breast feeding issues,sore nipples, bottle feeding issues, dealing with other children as well as new baby!
Congrats - to Maygirl xxxx

Im trying to deal with all or some issues above the best way i can 1 day at a time!!!!
LO is nearly 4 weeks my gosh and i dont believe the time has flown past!
Also received the passports on monday just under a week!!! so happy, was told no injections for LO so just have to be real careful and take loads of bug spray!
I have also noticed that he has now improved on the 4hrs i was getting to 5hrs and so loving the time i get to do other household chores and washing!also made a few dinner taken over from DH,still bleeding although not heavy!lo giving me loads of smiles but more to his dad!

Mama2b5 · 16/02/2010 20:53

oh ps - im into my prep preg jeans so feeling like a yummy mummy again!!!! lol xxx

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