Jan 2010 babies and mothers....come here to hibernate!

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New thread for us Jan 2010 mums. Will hopefully get busier as more of our little ones arrive!

Arrivals List
1st Dec - Missmarjoribanks - boy Thomas William Francis (33+4)
10th Dec - ClaireDB - girl Mira - 5lb 11.5oz (36+5)
11th Dec - Alibobins - boy Jacob, 6lbs 1oz (37weeks)
14th Dec - londonlottie - twin girls Juliet 6lb 1 and Eve 5lb 6 (35+5)
15 Dec - Whensmydayoff - girl Olivia - 6lb (36+6)
22 Dec - Liskey - girl Ellie - 5.5lbs
24 Dec - timmette/shinybaubles - boy Oliver - 7lb
25 Dec - Fakeplastictrees - boy Luke Edward
29 Dec - CantThinkofFunnyName - girl Olivia Iris - 6lbs 2 1/2oz
30 Dec - Liny - Nottinghamsire - girl Elise
1 Jan - TheMinnieBauble - boy Freddie - Weight TBC
2 Jan - nomorebboze - girl Megan - 5lbs 12oz
5 Jan - Fraochsmum - girl, name TBC - 6LBS 2oz
5 Jan - FlightofFancy - boy Edward - 6lb 14oz (37+3)
6 Jan - salvadory - girl Imogen
7 Jan - MistletoeKisses - boy Nicolas - 6lb 8oz
10 Jan- crumpette- boy 'babycrumpette'- 8lb 15 oz

Crumpette - I really feel for you, what crap for you to have as well as a new baby. I would never say lightly to anyone about breaking up, but that sort of behaviour is going to be so detrimental to you
I would take full advantage of baby sleeping for such a long time!! If he is gaining weight well and not waking up, I would say he doesn't need any more. I know some people (feeding themselves) whose children have slept through since about 3/4 weeks. I would be delighted!
CTOFN - nice to see you back x

LL poo explosions ... I don't think they are related to Infacol, well I don't give my DS infacol and he still has them (he is bf). Today the explosion was so strong it didn't just go halfway up his back, it practically reached his neck! So I think maybe it is just baby related.

alibobins I am sorry to hear that Jacob isn't very well, it's good that you are getting the hospital's attention and hopefully things will clear up quickly. It is hard to see them poorly when they are so small.

Shiney it must have been scary to see half blood and half poop. I understand what you mean about the labeling but at least if they have identified the problem then they can rectify it. Try not to google.

flyingma well done on your feeding, it sounds like you are getting there. A two hour break is fantastic! I ran to the supermarket last night too when I put Sam down ... I went pretending we needed milk ... but really it was just to get chocolate

Thanks crumpette you are right about googling. My advice is don't wake to feed especially if his weight is good. Oliver only takes 30mls between 10.30 and 7 am and we will be dropping that in the next few days. He is also quite chubby at 5 kilos. Sorry to hear about your partners behaviour.

Will take eveyones advice and stop googling now having made myself cry at the stuff I have been reading .

londonlottie - how are you getting on? As everyone else has said i dont know how you do it with 2, that really would be like groundhog day for me. On the plus side though you will get double the love and smiles and giggles, thats what gets me through with DS. If all else fails i could do with a holiday so me and DS could come over and help?! If you want some Aptamil sending over let me know.

shiny - how are you and how is DS getting on now his new milk is here?

jardins - i didnt know about the crossing over of arms etc to promote let down. You should see me trying to coordinate my arms and baby right now

alibobins - A good rant always makes me feel better so we're always here to listen. If you don't want to then maybe try a nice BIG piece of cake, great to make ou feel better but not so great for getting back your pre pregnancy shape [jelly belly emoticon]

crumpette - your OH sounds like such a pleasure. Hats off to you though for coping with a baby and him. How are you doing at getting in touch with your old friends?

We had our 6 week check yesterday with the dr from hell. I'd stopped taking my anti-depressants as they were making me sleepy and as we're co sleeping i didnt want to risk it. I've got an appt on Monday with the mother and baby psychiatric unit to help me figure things out but the witch of a dr told me to keep taking my pills til then. I also said i wanted help with bfeeding to make sure DS is getting enough and for me to understand when hes full so i can try putting him down sleepy rather than nursing him to sleep but she just told me to ask all of it on monday as though i was massively inconveniencing her.

I love DS to bits but its at the point where if i give him to people he only wants me and secretly inside its nice because i love that he loves his mummy so much i need him to get used to having some time away from me so that i can cook dinner or maybe just have a wee in peace?!

He's also being really fussy at night and the only thing that settles him is my boob in his mouth so i can now sleep but stay still. When he does eventually let go he uses my boob as a pillow, it feels like my boob is a hostage!!

Sorry to anyone i missed off, i hope everyones having a good day x

lol Newbeginning1 I didn't mean you should cross your arms at the same time as feeding! I should have made myself clearer.

Afternoon everyone!

So many posts this morning. TBH - I dont think the weather is helping the way anyone is feeling. It is minus temps here today (despite the sun shining) and simply isnt get out weather. With DS1, i took two walks a day and it always made me feel heaps better.

CTFN - great to hear from you! I have been driving for a week and a half now! . Doc and car insurance cleared me.

Flyingma - hope you get the pump and expressing sorted! Let us know how you get on!

Ali - so that you stayed away from the thread. You wont bring it down. Poor you and little jacob. Please let us know how you get on.

Shiny - I echo what others have said, please don't google! There is so much misinformation on the internet. Keep us all updated with progress/ news.

Crumpette - OMG about your partner! This is getting beyond a joke! What is the matter with him???
Re. the nightfeeds, I would absolutely let your LO sleep and become the envy of all of us on the thread here! If yours is one of the few to naturally drop nightfeeds, then that is great! Getting them to drop them is exhausting - I remember well from DS1!

Saz - at 2 weeks post csection, I was feeling delicate still. Started feeling back to normal about 3 1/2 weeks after OP.

Fraoch - I second your comment about public bfeeding. DS had a good feed as I was registering his birth this morning. Registrar didnt bat an eyelid. bet she is used to it!

Newbeginning - your dr really sounds very unsupportive. What a shame - GP's really should be the main support for you. How are you feeling being off your AD's? Are you feeling ok? I know a lot of docs get nervous about the impact of patients coming off them (have a good friend who has had a long history of depression..and have heard about all her toing and froing with the docs)

Lottie - Hope you are doing ok.

This post may be really old by the the time I post as started writing it hours ago!

shiny, ali, lottie, crumpette - hugs to you all. Hope things with LOs & ar*eholes improve soon for you. What a stressfull time you are having.
Not much to report here. Just busy trying to keep up with my 3 little monkeys. Half term next week, and inset day tomorrow, so no need to rush in the morning.
Going up to see my family for the weekend. Only my parents have made the trip down to see DD so I'm looking forward to showing her off.

london not sure how you do it if bf but with formula I just stated reducing the amount fom 150mls at 2.30 am, he now has about 30 mls he still wakes at the same time 7 ish, I am guessing we will drop the 30mls this weekend.

Lottie - well I did what the baby whisperer recommended, and that was to try and resettle the baby without a feed.
It is easier if someone other than the mother does it as I am sure that the baby can smell mummys milk. You can try using a dummy to help. The basis being that after a point, the baby waking for a feed is out of habit / wanting cuddles rather than an actual need for food. The idea is then that the baby will stop waking.
DS1 didnt stop waking , so we then did 'wake to sleep'. And this sounds absolutely insane - but you go and wake the baby an hour before their normal waking time. The idea this time being that it disrupts the baby's body clock and they wake later than normal. These techniques eventually worked and DS1 dropped the 1am feed, we then worked on dropping the 4am feed with similar tactics.

Last time I started trying these techniques at 9 weeks, may start sooner this time.

IME - it requires a will of steel and support from your partner. Because at times it took nearly an hour to resettle DS1 without feeding and I could have easily fed and resttled DS1 in half the time. But the idea is that once they realise they arent going to get their way, they will put up less of a struggle. Some babies may be easier than others, but it wasnt easy with DS1 (although was totally worth it to start getting sleep). I honestly dont think he would have dropped feeds of his own volition.

Hope the post makes sense, right am off to get things ready for bathtime/ bedtime.

lottie Don't worry about the mastisis - in the beginning I started off with a blocked duct and taking the "BF shouldn't be painful. It is the latch not the BF" advice I kept take DS off and wound up with a defunct right boob (near enough fully blocked up) on Day 4.

It took several days of very hard compressions, hot flannels and that lot during feeding but my LO managed to unblock all the ducts. No mastisis. I found I had to compress the lumps quite hard for a while during feeding to get the last one out tho the textbook advice is "firm but not so much it hurts".

shiny Really sucks about the allergy. Just breaks your heart to see them in pain!

ali my dear you should be on here for help and support... not that we have all the solutions but a problem shared and all that.

saz 18 times?! Amazing that you can keep up... or do I just have the world's slowest feeder/ let-down? WD boobies

Fraochsmum LOL @ Cara it is amazing how much we think they need and how much they actually take sometimes.

sock Have a great time showing off this weekend... small pleasures for our efforts raising the little tikes!

On recommendation have ordered the Lactaline today... also being at my wit's end with crying infant helped galvanise me into doing something re getting rid of formula. Pray this machine expressing goes well for me.

DS fell asleep this morning mid-burp, on his tummy, across my lap. I gave in by putting him on his front and for the first time in weeks (been sleeping in his rocker), he settled for a good 1.5-2 hour sleep FLAT in his cot without fussing. Naturally I was draped over the edge of his cot for the duration in case anything untoward were to happen. He's now being held with pressure to his tummy - on recommendation by the HV - so that he gets some sleep, having not been able to all day. Poor dear.

Not sure whether to consider this front sleeping this more carefully as DH would NOT be happy with me for having done it in light of all the SIDS paraphernalia that has come our way. Will need to sleep on this one.

ps lottie, my lump was big and hard too, not pea-sized

I have a question. Do any of you find it quite painful when your LO latches on and starts guzzling? Angélique has quite amazing sucking powers and I find it very uncomfortable for a minute or two when she first 'attacks' my left breast which, incidentally, produces enough milk but less than my more prolific right side, and is the one where I get the hard lump similar to Londonlottie and Crumpette.

I hope you are all having a peaceful morning.

Hi Jardins, I get that too on my left side (the one with the lump and which produces a bit less milk than my right). Hurts for about 2 mins when ''fang'' latches on then is fine while he feeds. Really weird, not pleasant at all but his latch seems fine so I have no idea why it happens!

Hi all, Tobin seems to have an inate ability to sense when I've finished reading everyone's posts then he screams, leaving me no time to post...ergo am expecting to have to dash any second!

Ali you are not going to bring the thread down by talking, but you will worry us if you don't and you need to!

jardins I get the agonising first few seconds of latch, I count down from 5, very slowly, just to remind myself that it doesn't last long.

flyingma why not get one of those monitors that have a breathing mat, angelcare or something...that way you can put LO on tummy and not worry about SIDS.

crumpette plaese don't top posting your moans about Dp.

I still feel like everything is getting a bit too much for me everyone around me has always said how well I cope so I feel I have too.

Shiny what does your ds think of the milk when ds1 had it he took a while to wean him on to it we had to do it slowly but I don't blame himit is well and truly vile. Once he got used to it he did really well on it x x

alibobins well he has had 4 bottles of it now and it does smell a bit like eggs, at first he would only drink 60 mls compared to the 180 mls he was drinking previously, but now he is at 150. And I have a new baby now no more grunting or screaming and no bloody diapers since we changed it. It's like a miracle milk. .
Thanks everyone for the good wishes. I am so glad to have this new milk it has made a huge difference. He also slept from 10 until 7 am.
Just have to sort out ds1 now.

Hello everyone - just wanted to pop on here to say that I am reading all posts - but actually, have nothing of interest to say/report!

All is going well here but days getting increasingly busier as now I'm driving and out and about, kids on half term and Olivia has started to attention seek a little so all in all, less time for MN ...

Hello again everyone. Would like to canvass some thoughts on prams/travel systems from you all. What do you have, how are you finding it etc, pros and cons etc?

I was given a travel system by a friend so didn't see the need to look around - but tbh, it's a bit of a faff. I would ideally like something cheap , that folds easily, isn't too heavy to lift into boot, that has a nice high handle and comfortable for trekking around on my power walking, that is suitable from birth, that easily fits a car seat on to it and the car seat should have a base unit so I don't have to keep fiddling with the 3 point harness which I'm doing at the moment.

Ideas/thoughts?

I have a Mama and Papas Skate. It's great. But I don't think any travel system is light. It does all the things you want. I had the Quinny Buzz with ds1 and hated it. As soon as Oliver is old enough about 6 months I will get a Maclaren.

Hi all - i having a real ball with isaiah he is totally entertaining - smiles and coos and watching and looking around, he is getting bored now so need to get him toys for entertainment!
he has a real thirst after his 4/4.1.2hrs and yes Jardins & Crumpette - i also hurt for 2 secs when he latches on and its my right boob!
Shiney- glad its working so quickly!
Ali - I hope you dont ever feel the need to refrain from venting and letting your true feelings out, we have all been through alot as a support thread and i hope it doesnt stop! our journey began and so it shall go on as long as we all need it!
CTOFN- i have a "stokke" carrycot and buggy i have not used it yet not had chance but as weather improves i dont see why not!im using my lovely baby carrier that looks like a bag! i feel like a kangeroo!!!!

shiny - im glad that the miracle milk has worked, it must be a weight off your mind.

crumpette - i'm so like you in that i've learnt to sleep without moving my boobs in case DS realises. I cant wait to get my boobs and bed back and be able to sleep on my front without my boobs hurting and be able to spread my legs like a starfish and wrap up in my duvet - bliss!!!

flyingma - let me know how you get on with the lactaline, i want to get one but i want to know its good first before i part with my cash.

CTOFN - i have the bugaboo frog which is good for the walks and to put the car seat on but isnt that compact or lightweight.

alibobins -

DS has been the grumpiest boy ever today which was great as I took him into work today and as its the head office of a big company everyone is very professional. DS managed to disrupt everyone and make them all coo over him but instead of him loving it ad showing off his smile he kept crying and crying and crying - good times.