Nov 09 and we're feeling fine, feeding, burping, not enough sleeping - that's us!

[BeckyBendyLegs]

Just thought I'd better create a new thread.

Raggie how about a trip to Burford?

Oh shit, i think i have flu. I have the horrid horrid horrid beginings, which started about 2 hours ago and is developing quickly (which is why i think it is the flu). My skin is starting to crawl a little, my muscles are aching, in that cold tender way, my scalp skin is sore to touch. Bugger. Or it could be that for the firs time in weeks/months, i have an evening all to myself where both the children were asleep, DH is out and i could go 'ahhhhh', like a sort of body relaxing thing...not likely though is it? ]hmm] DD did go to sleep straight awaay tonight though, for the first time in a long long time, we had cuddles with Reuben and she held him while i read stories to them both, no crying, no yelling it was lovely.

scarlotti, DH is out tonight. Friend's engagement party, we went this afternoon, for those with children, and he stayed on while i came back with the children at about 6"30pm. He is still there, i got a text to say he is having a blast and it sounds racous! And you know, i am not at all jelous. I know he will be horrendous tomorrow, and he is on the sofa. I made it up all cosy, just to give him the hint if he gets any ideas! He has been out twice already, although not stupidly drunk last time, accepted i would not be nurse for him. This time, it is his best friend, i suspect he will be blind drunk. (grr). Hope your DH has made it up to you somehow, or has promised to tomorrow when he is fit to. You need some help. My friend who is now engaged, her dh is going away skiiing in a couple of weeks, she has a 4month old, first baby. He has been away abroad from, Oct to christmas eve, and most of the summer while she was pg, and for the first month of his child's life. But he needs a 'break' 'She does not realise i am on officially on holiday' he says then once i have spoken to him, i tend to apprecaite Dh more!

Off to rest my weary bones and hope its just tiredness. I will catch up more tomorrow. xx

Evening all

I went on a date last night with DP, it was lovely! Ethan scoffed two bottles of ebm, I'd left two bottles of 5oz but he polished them off in under ten mins. How do you judge how much a 7wk old baby will take?! Will up them to 6oz in the future.

Ethan is great at the moment. He has really started smiling over the past few days and 'talking', it's lovely!

Future MIL told us today to move Ethan into his cot in his own room now as he'll start to misbehave when he realises we're sleeping in the room. Didn't know how to handle it at all and I'm a bit annoyed at myself as I just said nothing. I have no intention of moving him out of his cradle in our room until he either outgrows it or reaches about 6 months. I would prefer her to suggest or ask us what we are planning rather than telling us what to do. DP thought I came across as being hostile which I have to admit I was but the way she approached it I felt didn't give me the opportunity to explain our plans and of course DP didn't speak up!! I'll have to think of a way to deal with this if it happens again. Any advice ladies? I know parenting is a divisive subject and everyone has an opinion but I've been open to suggestions and asked advice of most ppl, including MIL, just don't take kindly to being told what to do with my own child. Hmmmph!

Wow! that is great going! Reben only managed 2oz! I think its because he does not like it cold and is a lazy drinker! Well done that boy! I am glad your night out is good!

was good, not 'is' [doh]

Sorry pav it took me so long to write my post (one handed on iPhone while feeding) that I missed your's. I really hope it's not flu and you're feeling better in the morning xx

Pav We've been warming ethan's bottles in hot water. I know you can't microwave breastmilk but I'm sure this is ok.

PS the two bottles were 3 hours apart roughly, not 10 in one go! Is that still a lot? As fawlty towers' Manuel said, I know nothing!

Found the funniest thread ever...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics/263007-funniest-bit-of-childbirth

Morning! Sorry claire i went to sleep! I think 10oz sounds normal for a 3 hour period, a good amount but not excessive. We have not tried Reuben on a bottle exclusively for a feed yet, so he might take more. We warm EBM too put it goes cold, so he only manages 2oz before it goes too cold! I am not sure how many times we can heat milk up?

Strange virus thing i have/had. Not the flu. I went to bed with the most serious painful aches, had a fever which shot to 102, and tossed and turned in bed, every inch hurting. Then gradually, the fever went down, and by this morning it is back to normal, and am left with a funny taste in my mouth, and my muscles feel tight and sore, like i have run a marathon! Its a sort of post fever pain i guess. Very strange. I have a sore neck and headache, but think a shower will probably sort that out.

On a positive though - Reuben slept for 5.5 hours! YEY! and he did not have a stupidly large feed last night either. And he went back to sleep after he woke from his epic sleep and feed, until DD woke him to tell him she had a dream about a space rocket which had a baby seat in it and she took him with her ! (it was the first dream she has remembered, she was pleased as punch that she went in a rocket!), i could not tell her off for waking him after that! But then he went back to sleep and has been asleep most of the morning!

Sorry I lost you all... Just bookmarking again

Pav oh no, hope it's not flu, you poor thing.

Well, DH was sent to supermarket yesterday and came back saying he'd learnt his lesson as he had felt faint walking around the shop good.
He's gone back to bed this morning too as DS1 woke him up at 6:30. Little does he know that he'll have to make up for it later now shifting some furniture around for me

claire I pump 5oz for the 10pm feed at night and he only just about makes it through that one some nights, others he takes about 4oz. I warm the bottle in a tub of hot water too. They can take more from a bottle than bf as it's easier to get it out so they don't tire out as easily drinking. Will be interesting to see if Ethan slept longer after having such a full tummy!

Ioan has started fussing about whilst feeding in the day, feeds now only last about 7 mins and he's trying to look around everywhere. I know my milk comes out fast, but am sure he's not getting enough now. He woke twice last night too, rather than his usual once, which is making me wonder if he's not getting his milk quota in the day.
Anyone got any advice or is the same thing happening in your house?

pav x-posts, good that it's just a 24 hour bug and great on the sleep! Your DD sounds very cute.

Ioan is very chatty in the mornings, it's so sweet. He wakes around 8 and has 2 hours of real alertness, smiling and coo-ing away

Help!

How long did the 6 week growth spurt last for you?

I've had the worst night ever. From 2pm yesterday James was feeding every hour until around 10pm when he stepped it up a notch and just fed non-stop until about 3am. He was just coming off one side, totally unsatisfied and going straight on to the next - it was awful and I was crying from the pain!

Anyway, DH finally got him to sleep about 3.30 and then he slept until 7am. So does that mean the spurt is over, or should I expect the same again tonight?

Oh, and I'm starting to worry that I have enough milk, but that's just the classic mistake people make around now, isn't it? (He was 6 weeks on Friday)

I have been eating oats like they're going out of fashion, so I hope that's not just an old wives' tale.

Weston, same problem here. We haven't tried for a while to give her the bottle but today I expressed a little bit and she took only 10ml although she was really hungry. It's so annoying. I'm not sure if I can do the suggested house leaving though.
We had a couple of nights with 5 or 6 hours breaks but since thursday we are not only back to 3 hours maximum but also difficult evenings AND early mornings.
scarlotti, I do understand that my husband wants to go out sometimes, I'd like that too but as you, I really think he should be able to control himself to be able to support me the next morning.
Yesterday we had a (stupid) couple over for coffee and cake at 2pm. My husband then opens a bottle of wine, so they didn't feel like they should leave at some point and in the end he even suggested to order some pizza. They stayed until 10pm! I was sooo annoyed and my husband doesn't understand why I am cross with him! (He knew I don't like them so why starting to drink wine with them?) After a hard week I was really hoping to get some rest on the weekend and not having to entertain people I even don't like while not having enough time for Paula.

Pav, glad to hear that it has only been a 24hours thing.

BBL, you really have a great mum and husband! I am sure with their help you will get out of PND quickly.

Laugs I had about 3 days worth, sorry. He did have a mammoth sleep day the day after that though and then settled down well and went a little longer at night. Hang in there.
Oats do work, not an old wives tale, and after the growth spurt you'll have lots more again.

Ursi exactly, they just don't think!

Thanks Scarlotti. I searched on here and found people who'd had 2 week growth spurts, so I will cling to 3 days! He is asleep at the moment, so tried expressing but only got a tiny bit. I know I need to keep him on the breast to stimulate supply, but if I can get even one feed of EBM then that would be a huge relief.

Sorry to be all me, me, me.

Ursi do you think you could put back Paula's bedtime a bit until after DH finishes work? Or would that just make life harder for you?

BBL Nice to see you and I'm really glad your mum is there to help out.

Laugs tbh I only did the expressing thing once he hit 8 weeks and I felt I was happy with how feeding was going. After the growth spurt I didn't have any more cluster feeding so could do a bedtime then.
Don't worry about stimulating your supply more, he's doing a great job of that as it is I used to give a dummy for a bit to break up the evening and give my poor nips a rest and it didn't harm my supply.
Now I am feeding around every 2-3 hours in the day though, but he drains a side in about 10 mins so it's not too restrictive, and as long as he doesn't miss a feed he only wakes once between 10 and 7. He's 10 weeks today.

I probably would have done the same and waited until BF was more established, but didn't feel like I had a choice back in the bad old days of thrush hell! Now I feel like I should carry on expressing a bit to make the most of it. He's actually been feeding completely normally today, but I'm trying to mentally prepare myself for tonight as last night was such a shock. DH has taken DD out this afternoon so I've been catching up on sleep, reading the papers online and eating oat-based products

Ioan sounds like he's doing brilliantly!

Laugs, since about a week I've started to bring her to bed earlier, so on certain days, my husband really only came home in the middle of the process but we have in fact just decided to give up. It is just not her natural time at the moment and the time before is just hard for me as she doesn't fall asleep properly. So I guess, bringing her to bed later might probably be better for everybody.

Well, last night didn't exactly go to plan! Millie really wasn't interested in her bottle, although she managed to drink 1oz which is better than nothing. However, the pils said she was really happy and content the whole time we were out so maybe she just wasn't hungry. I fed her before we left and we were only out 3.5 hours so maybe that was the case, although if boob is available she normally feeds more in the evening. I fed her when I got home and she had a long feed then fell straight to sleep! Oh well, I will try again and hopefully she will take more next time. The annoying thing was that 7oz of my milk were wasted and had to be tipped down the sink!

pav hope you are feeling better now and it wasn't flu but just some 24 hour thing. Hope dh is letting you rest now.

bbl Glad your mum and dh are looking after you and hope that you manage to get some sleep soon.

ursi Millie seems to be at her most alert in the evenings, have also given up trying to get her to go to bed earlier, they will do it when they are good and ready!

Does anyone else have a man that manages to sleep through all the night cries?

Erika DH sleeps through most noise that the baby makes at night. But the other morning I was trying to wake DH for work and he had ear plugs in!! I don't mind him not being disturbed as he was doing the last feed of the night whilst I got some sleep.

Talking of sleep.. I actually got some last night, for a change We have gone back to formula top up using a different bottle, and it seems to have worked (no wind pains). I went to bed at 10pm and baby woke at 4am for a quick feed and back to sleep until 6am. I hope this is the start of things to come, but I could do without such an early start. But I'm not complaining!!

Pav Glad you feel better.

Ursi We do a bedtime routine, but baby stays downstairs with us. He won't settle upstairs until the last feed.

Helips Glad you had a good night and Millie was a happy baby whilst you were gone. Did you miss being with her whilst you were out?

Laugs you are doing brilliantly

Scarlotti Hope you got your DH working hard this afternoon!

Laugs I think Anya is having a growth spurt too-except a delayed one. She is almost 9 weeks old but didn't seem to have a 6 week growth spurt. Is that normal?

She has been feeding every 1 and a half -2 hours, which is frequent for her. Last night was AWFUL. She cried constantly from about 6 o clock until 11. I was pulling my hair out, pacing the floor with her, trying different positions. Do they get little growing pains when going throught a growth spurt?

DH really doesn't cope well with crying children so he basically handed Anya over me to "sort her out". Very helpful

pav & scarlotti do you both give bottle feeds of ebm before LO's bedtime? Is that as they can drink it easier so drink more & sleep longer?

Hope you're feeling better pav.

On the subject of DP/DH's... My house is a tip, I'm behind on washing & ironing, we haven't done the supermarket shopping after agreeing last week to shop every Sunday for the week ahead... I probably would cope better without him. He is very lazy and it rubs off on me when he is around. I get more done when he is at work. Isn't that ridiculous? I'm glad tomorrow is Monday!