Nov 09 and we're feeling fine, feeding, burping, not enough sleeping - that's us!

[BeckyBendyLegs]

Just thought I'd better create a new thread.

Raggie how about a trip to Burford?

skorpion we did formula top ups at the start so don't worry. The trick is to always put her to the boob at every feed even if it's just for a few minutes so she suckles to stimulate your supply.Expressing also stimulates so that's good, but it's about half the strength of message that baby sends.
Expressing bears no relation to the amount of milk baby gets out. The more you do it, the more you will produce.

Do try and persevere. With DS1 this happened to me and I just moved to formula as I didn't know there were other options. I took it hard and had an issue with it for years.
The NCT bf line are brilliant 0300 300 0771.

Increasing supply: lots of feeding, drink plenty and eat oatmeal.

Keyboard is playing up so back later

Trikken x-posts, on your behalf

Found you all! Haven't been on over Christmas at all so hope you all had a lovely time (sorry for those of you who had issues with parents, inlaws etc). We had a good time, although lack of sleep has made it a bit hard work for dh and I. DD1 has got so many new things that we have had to have a mass clear out of her old things and am trying to find somewhere to store them for when Leah is older!! Leah also came out of it well with lots of new cuddles and fabric books etc! We got her a travel baby gym that has been really good and she will go under it for good chunks of time. Have to remember to turn her over for tummy time as have a habit of forgetting! Best present she got was a seahorse that plays gentle music and has a light as it helps settle her. Used it last night and she settled in her moses basket better than she has in a while.

Best present for me was a Pandora bracelet from DH and a couple of lie ins the last couple of days!! We've all come down with cold and flu like symptoms so just getting up has been hard work, especially after not sleeping well at all.

No worse present really as got what I asked for from everyone else!

Skorpion I am having to give top ups to Leah all the time. I can't produce enough for her but I still have a supply which I feed her from she is still getting the goodness from it.

southernbelle we have the seahorse here too, dd loves it so much it needs new batteries already.

Hi all!

Hope everyone has had a good christmas. Dh got me tickets to see Muse next year at Wembley, I am so excited! Definately my best present! Not sure what my worst is, probably too much chocolate as Im desperate to get rid of my tummy now!

Crikey, me and Dh still haven't attempted sex yet and Millie is 8 weeks old! Think I might have to send dh to the shops to get some K Y jelly first, sorry is that tmi?

Erika don't worry about feeding when Bryn gets his teeth. Firstly, even if the gums feel bumpy it doesn't necessarily mean the teeth are going to come through straight away. Also, the first two teeth to come through are the bottom two and they are covered by the tongue when feeding. I really worried about feeding ds with teeth but ended up breatfeeding him for 20 months! By that stage he had most of his teeth and as each tooth came through he would adjust his latch slightly and I never felt uncomfortable.

Hope everyone else is ok and sleeping better, I am so tired and seem to have forgotten what has been said but hope everyone is ok. Right, the kids are sleeping so think I will too!

Think we're going through a growth spurt here. DS is 8 weeks old and since yesterday has gone back to feeding every 2 hours. I'm sure they have spurts at 2 months - anyone experiencing this?

Fruit yep, back to every two hours here too and he's 7 weeks old now.

Thank you all so much for your support. Today's been a better day - things always look much worse in the middle of the night, don't they? I've been pumping 50 - 60ml at a time and Lucy's been taking 50ml top up, too. And she's been napping, which is so unlike her.

fruit, meant to say I'm definitely carrying on with the unusual sweet-tooth from pregnancy. Still have an xmas pud to go through, can't wait.

Scarlotti At least I know I'm not on my own. I feel like I'm all over the place atm. I'm so tired from the sleepless nights that we've had since he was born. The nights were getting better, with a 3 hr feed routine, we're now back to the midnight/2/4/6am feeds and its exhausting me. DH is off work this week and i intend to use him for DS1 as much as poss!

Skorpion Glad today feels better on the feeding front. Life feels so much better when they sleep nicely for you. I'm now rading the Roses tin At this rate my new jeans won't fit me for much longer!!

hello there, happy christmas and happy new year to all!

hope ye are all doing well, had a good xmas, ended up in pub for afternoon as mil was poorly which i greatly enjoyed! all pubs shut in ireland xmas day so was quite a novely

just spend 100 hours packing to go to ireland for a few days and of course nothing is for me! i have nooo clothes, despite 3 wardrobes full, hate the inbetweeney wardrobe stage, must think about consuming less than 3,000 calories a day in january..

seahorse sounds interesting, any links to it?

DD2 still continues to be placid, think has to just lie there and smile in fear as hyperactive DD1 charges around her...

though do want to try to sort out putting her down at 7pm for nite rather than 11/12

right all is quite in the house best take advantage and catch up on some quality reality tv..

Hi everyone!

Just sent my family packing after a nearly two week visit. They weren't staying with us, thank goodness, but they were still exhausting. What little routine we'd worked out in the first three weeks is totally gone. LO got so much attention while they were here, she refuses to sleep in her basket anymore. Feels like we're starting over.

I hope she's just going through a growth spurt and the fussiness is related to that, but in the meantime I've been letting her sleep in our bed for an hour after I feed her and then putting her down, when she's well and truly out.

On the plus side, she's smiling so much now, and she so clearly recognizes her dad - he can settle her like no one else. I joke that her best friends these days are (in order) Boob, Dad, Mom

Hi all,

skorpion glad things have improved today. I know what you mean, I can't remember the last time I encountered something so stressful as breastfeeding. There is such a selection of things to worry about! I was fraught in the night thinking we'd lost our ability to latch, particularly on the right boob, but seems a bit better this afternoon. Good for you for expressing so much and for sticking with it. You're doing a great job.

My mother has just been scolding me for eating too much chocolate. It used to give me diahrea (sp?) when I breastfed off her and Ma is convinced the same thing is happening to Bean. Either the chocolate or the blue cheeses I've been eating. COME ON! Months of no cheese and all this hard work and I can't eat the two foods of the gods?! NOT ON. I refuse to believe it just yet...

I put on my pre-prego jeans today and they fit. Yeehaw.

I should be napping now after last nights sleeplessness, but I just want to do something for me... That means Mumsnet, followed by expressing. Sweet.

I'm sitting here with a boy attached to my chest breathing cute little sleep breaths on my chest. I love this time of day for that reason. It gets to about 6.30pm and DH says to me 'Toby's cranky, is it time to 'sling up'?' He won't settle anywhere else in the evening except in the sling. Doesn't it amaze you that they need so much sleep? He wakes at 7-7.30am but by 8.30am needs to sleep again, and just sleeps then more or less all the time until 5.30pm and then niggles and needs one more sleep in the sling before he wakes for a bath and feed and then big long sleep (hopefully) at night. It is really just sleep, sleep, sleep!

sassmonkey - eat chocolate and cheese if you want to! Yum!!!

Yeah on the jeans. I can wear my pre-preg clothes too now but do have a definite bulge. I would like to loose another 3/4 stone ideally. I'm 1/2 stone heavier than pre-pregnancy at the moment.

Trikken just what you don't need on Christmas day

Southern Bryn got a seahorse too A family friend got it for him and he loves it.
Here's the link, weston. Helips thanks for that

Sass wouldn't worry about it. Am going to try caffine free / dairy free if Bryn's colic gets any worse, I think So have some chocolate for me!!!

Am back from DPs. Have just found an infection in Bryn's right big toe - puss and blood under the nail, whole toe is red and swollen, explains why he's only been happy naked / having his nappy changed; the romper suits must be pushing against it when he stretchs. Doctors tomorrow, me thinks...

Have only been back a few hours and my mother is driving me up the frigging wall already. Had a go at me for picking Bryn up - he was crying because he was in pain, wasn't going to just leave him. Also compared the fact that my brother got an XBox 360 for Christmas (on top of the PS2 and Wii he already has) to the fact that she bought me two second hand Moses baskets throughout the year. Oh, and also, because she decided to buy it, she's asked me for money to buy the food shopping. That just seems frigging illogical to me. Surely if you can't afford to do it..?! I don't mind being given less than my brother for Christmas for goodness sakes, but its the 3 games consoles, 2 Moses baskets at under £3.50 each that has irked me...

Sorry, rant over - I forgot how peaceful it was at DPs

Right - need a fancy dress costume for New Years Eve, and theme has changed to childhood heroes. Have NO idea. Suggestions..?

Hi everyone

We had a nice xmas but am glad it's over and we can try to get back to some sort of routine. We decided that we would travel to see parents etc, rather than they come to us, in the hope that we could leave whenever we wanted etc... this didn't quite work and turned out to be quite exhausting. I've also had some weird fever /nausea /thing going on. I've also been incredibly clumsy. Me and DH had the.. ' You can't be, can you?' but it seems to be a tummy bug so we both breathed a sigh of relief!

One thing I noticed with family this xmas is that everyone wanted to feed Isaac (as am bottle feeding) but this opened up a whole can of worms. 'He won't drink that much, will he?' er yes. 'He's not even hungry' err yes he is, he's trying to eat your jumper. 'but you just fed him' that's what babies do, they eat all the bloody time!

It's good to be home!

Erika sorry to hear Bryn's not well, hope his toe gets sorted. Try not to get too stressed about your Mum.

skorpion great news on the topups. Ioan was on about 50ml a time when we were doing them. Once my milk stabilised and he got more efficient with feeding we stopped them and we've not looked back. Won't take you long so hang in there

Fruit we tend to be 2 hourly during the day, then since 5pm it's been hourly, but then he does settle at about 10:30 and sleep for a block of 4 hours which breaks the cycle. I have to say I give a dummy at points in the evening just to give my nips a rest and eat!

I'm back in pre-prego clothes but was a bit overweight when I started so still want to lose more. I have 2lb to go before being pre preg weight, but have a squidgy muffin top which will need to be gotten rid of! Was doing well on the chocolate front until Christmas came and Santa put chocolate oranges in my stocking

Right, off to bed now

Oh my god lemontop imagine if you were! Although it occurs to me Isaac must be 3 months now, so possibly you feel a bit more normal.

DH has brought up the S word tonight. Do you think he has been reading mumsnet and realised he's missing out?

Ooh I love fancy dress, Erika, I'll help you think of something! Who were your childhood heroes? Joseph and his technicoloured dreamcoat? (was that the song you played once?) Or are you going with Bryn?

Sass tell your mum the nice women online said you must not give up chocolate! Does he actually seem unwell or just have runny poo, because it is supposed to be runny at the moment. Oh and does he have a name now, or is it a secret?

Morning all. Don't hate me but Toby has now done two nights in a row only waking once. Last night it was 3.45am. So I feel a bit more human today and starting to get better from lurgy too.

Lemontop that is so funny you thought you might be pregnant. Didn't that happen to Jamie Oliver's wife? She got pregnant with the second one when the first was just 3 months old? My mum was pregnant with my sister when my brother was 3 months old too. I simply cannot imagine! No wonder they then left it five years before they had me.

DH has indicated that he wants to do the S word on New Year's Eve. He mentioned champagne and an early night. Gosh it's been so long I'm sure I've forgotten how to do it.

I'm still struggling to focus on anything at the moment I don't know about anyone else. I can't read a book, can't do anything much for myself, I'm sure it'll get easier soon.

Dreading next week - school starts and DH back at work.

BBL That's great news about the sleeping I was trying to remember when DS1 went almost through the night, he was born in the same month as DS2, I think it was Easter time and thats when he went into his nursery. He was formula fed so I can't use it as a guidance, at the rate we're going I can't forsee a full nights sleep happening for a very long time! Mind you, we went 4 hrs last night, but cluster fed around 5am until it was time to get up. Now he's asleep after an hour of being awake - what a good life!

I can't focus on anything either. I seem to be better this time around though. With DS1 I didn't read a newspaper for months and had no idea what was going on in the world.

What are everyones plan for NYE? We were invited to a friends house but have decided to stay home with a good film. Erica What childhood programmes did you enjoy? I'm a bit older than you, so I was thinking Wonder Women, Princess Leia, Strawberry Shortcake, Carebears, Raggy dolls - hope that helps..

Sass to give up chocolate would be torture for me!

The programmes I watched as a child show my age: Trumpton, Chorlton and the Wheelies, Playschool, Play Away, Take Hart, Bagpuss, Bod, the Flumps.

I knew a girl that fell pg again when her baby was just 2 months old and DD has a friend who's sister is in the same year at school as her, they're 11 months apart.

Sass poo sounds fine to me, mustard yellow with bits in is normal, even a green tinge to it is also normal. If it's only green then that's too much foremilk but the curd bits come from hindmilk so nothing to worry about. It is very runny at this age, almost like water. Ioan did one when I was changing his nappy and it came out like runny foam! Think shaving foam, but mustard colour!!

BBL great news on Toby's sleeping most nights we have a wake up at 3:30 then another at 6:30/7 and it makes the world of difference. I too struggle to focus on anything other than feeding/changing/nappies. I picked up a book the other week, read a few pages whilst in funplex with the DS' but haven't managed to pick it up since Am hoping it changes soon as am starting to miss some me time.

Fruit great on the 4 hour stint although not so great from 5am.
NYE - we were toying with the idea of driving to my Mum's but she's 5 hours away and there are now severe weather warnings for snow so think we'll stay here. Part of me wants to see her as it's Christmas, but the other part of me likes being at home as our routine (what there is of one!) works here and we both get a modicum of sleep. We'd all be squashed in at Mum's and the amount of things I'd have to remember to take..!! If he was a little older we'd go.

I imagine we'll just stay home and chill, and probably be in bed long before midnight!!

BBL I used to watch the same programmes too

scarlotti I know what you mean about wanting to stay at home for NYE. We are heading off to see friends in Poole for a few days but part of me would love to stay at home to just watch a film and have a glass of wine and an early night! The thought of staying up past midnight, yuck! Oh how times have changed!

Well, last night Millie slept from midnight to 7.30am this morning! Ds slept in until 8am so I feel great today! Dh is out on the razz tonight so bet the dc's play me up as I'll be on my own to deal with them both. Love the way dh gets another night out whereas I haven't been out for months. Sigh, not fair!

Erika I have been trying to think what you could go as but my brain is mushy! Could you go as a recent character and say it is Bryn's childhood hero! Sorry to hear your mum is driving you up the wall. Doesn't seem fair that you and your brother get treated so differently, when can you escape back to dp's?

Btw, the thought of getting pregnant again now is terrifying! Maybe there is something to be said for not having sex yet