Nov 09 and we're feeling fine, feeding, burping, not enough sleeping - that's us!

[BeckyBendyLegs]

Just thought I'd better create a new thread.

Raggie how about a trip to Burford?

Hi all,

Sorry to hear about all the poorly babies, hope they feel better soon. It's not fair that they should get ill when they are so little.

Millie had her jabs yesterday. Poor thing cried her eyes out and I must admit to feeling quite tearful myself. She slept most of yesterday and then was very restless at bedtime. She seemed to have a lot of wind, could that be because of the jabs or just a normal baby thing?

I'm another one with a party animal for a baby! Millie is most awake in the evenings with us but I can't really complain as she normally then sleeps from about 11ish until morning. I seem to remember ds doing this too but at about 4 months he started needing to go to bed earlier. Scarlotti thanks for the advice about the earlier bedtime, I am going to start bathing Millie every night to get an evening routine and then put her to bed, even if it is only for a 45 min nap!

Sass re waiting to see how how you feel at 6 weeks, they normally have another growth spurt then so you might want to wait until 7 weeks!

Pav your post made me smile about Reubens chuckle and latching on, what a clever boy!

Erika I think your fears re cot death are completely normal, I often lean over to check Millie is still breathing and if I can't hear her I give her a prod! They just seem so vunerable don't they. Sorry the snow has kept you away from your dp, you must really miss him and sounds like you need to escape your mum! I bet he is really missing you and Bryn too, hope you can get to him soon.

many thanks scarlotti sounds like they are on the right timezone, tried it last nite but when she woke after her 45 mins we couldn't get her to go back so we just took her downstairs and then ended up having worse nite ever!! suppose will just keep trying!! re. the daytime sleeps do you proactively wake him up after these times and then how do u keep him awake?! in the morning what time do u get him up for the day?

really want her to take a decent bottle of formula at lease once a day to up her weight, any tips on getting a b/feed baby to take a bottle - she will take the mamm one if alseep or just woken up from big sleep but otherwise not a chance but of course will always feed from boob.

pavlov sounds like our babies have the same thing, its soo awful, reassuing its just viral but then there isn't really anything to fix it, lexi has had this cough now for over a week though she doesn't puke as much now; and its tough with this weather whether to know to just keep them cocooned inside but life must go on esp with another DD!

Erk, Pavlov, sounds as if the mucus is irritating his poor tummy. DS1 is still prone to throwing up when he has a cold.

Longway, we are moving to Virginia. DH will be over there for two weeks at the end of the month, househunting. I hope he picks somewhere nice - it's a bit nervewracking knowing that I won't get to see it in advance. On the bright side, the company's giving us a chunk of money to replace a lot of our stuff, so I intend to pack him off to IKEA with my orders in advance of us getting there. We'll probably be camped out for a bit until stuff gets organised, but provided we have travel cots for the boys and an air mattress for us, we should be ok.

Arthur is also up late in the evening. I did try cutting down the amount he slept during the day as Scarlotti has done, but this just made things worse for us - he was thoroughly overtired and miserable at night. It seems that for this baby, at least, the 'sleep begets sleep' thing holds true. So far, I'm just counting it as a win if I manage to get him asleep in his basket (not falling asleep on me) by 10 pm as it was midnight for a while... I'm hoping that we can keep working his bedtime back and back until it's at a more reasonable hour. Last night he went down at 9.30 pm, and didn't wake until 2 am.

Today, he is eating and eating and eating. I was worrying a bit that my supply was down until I remembered that they're supposed to have a colossal growth spurt and feeding binge at about the twelve-week mark... and he's twelve weeks tomorrow. I'm resigning myself to being an ambulatory milkbar this weekend.

funnily enough, i also puke when i have a sinus infection, guess it is hereditary!

lol pressed return too fast!

stpuid question. only ever expressed from one side at a time. can i mix the expressed milk from both sides in the same bottle?

am getting stressed today, ds wont stay dry at night or at nap times. so i want to put him back into pull ups at night but mum is making me feel really guilty about this. cannot cope with all the exta washing as well. she says its cos he wants to be the baby, even so i dont know what to do to get him to stop.

trikken its very common for them to regress, even gina ford says it!i was going to start potty training my DD who is 3 in march but they said to wait 3 months from arrival new baby and if already trained they regress, i would just go for pull ups for now till he gets more used to the new arrival, you have to make life as easy as possible for yourself at this time

yes tamlin i think maybe some of them need more sleep and sleep better for it, wonder what it is about evening being party time for them? if i am out shoping or she is swing she will just keep sleeping..do i just let her continue to sleep?? i want to go to bed at 9!

Very normal for toddlers to regress. Iwould put him in pullups, removes the stress for both you and DS for now. Give it a week or two and then ask him if he is ready to try again without.If he wets again, give it another week or so. DD has taken to wanting to be fed again, when she has been able to feed herself for a long time. And wants to be carried everywhere again now. I do not see the harm in going with it, let him be a 'baby' again in this respect for now, or else create a big fuss and drama which is not good for dry nappies anyway.

thanks weston and pav, i know mum is against me putting him back in them but is stressing us both out at the mo. she doesnt see what its like having him do this all the time.

some fights are just not worth having, imo, esp if you cannot 'win' right now.

you are right pav. thanks

Hi all so many posts don't know where to start. Just big hugs to all who are feeling low- things do get better and when you look back strangley you only remember the good bits

trikken i'm in the same boat my ds1 is 3.5 and has started having loads of accidents - it really stresses me out as i keep thinking what if the school kick him out (in France children have to be potty trained to go to school even at 3!)Hoping its only a blip and things get back to normal soon.

erika Yep Even though on ds2 i still poke him to make sure he's breathing!

I've started my physio for pelvic floor. Just when i thought i was at the end of all the embarrasing pregnancy/child birth stuff!!! God when will the humilation end!

And the worse of all D-16 till i start back to work. Cue hyper ventilating from me know idea how i'll get everying (anything) done

Phew been away for a day and so much to read! This might take 2 posts!

Ooh laugs I just read Prep by Curtis Sittenfield. Picked it up randomly at the library and really enjoyed it. On the cover it has a review - 'Sweet Valley High as written by George Elliot...which I thought was a brill way to describe it!

Re reusables Our LO seems to still be a bit small for ours (Lollipop Pop N Grows) so guiltily using/alternating with disposables.

wow venus great news on the baby training! I was going to ask how it's going as we have the same prob - put her in moses and she yells but will quite happily sleep like a dream if on/near me - however last night 11.30 til 3 then 6.30 then 10.30!! (Then we all snoozed til midday too! Haven't had a lie in like that in...years?!) On cloud nine....
Also because Grandad gave her this beautiful colourful wooden mobile for Christmas and just got set up - she LOVES it. She will lie happily foir ages grinning away. Brilliant as normally she needs LOTS of attention and bouncing etc just not to grizzle all the time. Thanks Grandad! Still, she never seems to do anything in a pattern/routine for more than 2/3 days so fully expecting a night of wakenings 1-2hrs tonight. longwayaway your news sounds promising on that front too however. Keeping fingers crossed. P.S. Love to see the score for 'Air that Booty Out'

tamlin we must sort out an oxfordshire meet up before March!

pav love reuben's cleverness!

erika and others - I also poke rosa to check for breathing especially when she's schmushed against me in the sling.

thinking of you bbl and hoping you're having a nap right now.

weston it sounds as though we're more organised than we actually are. The only rule I'm sticking to is that when he wakes up after his bedtime, I don't bring him out of the bedroom. It does mean the first few nights are a bit dull for me as I'm stuck in there but it seems to be paying off.
I go with the flow during the day and we get up when he wakes, or 8 ish at the latest. He has a feed somewhere around 7/7:30 so we get up after that. If he wakes before then, I treat it as a night time feed and settle him again after - generally by bringing him into bed with me!
As for daytime sleeping, I struggle to get him to sleep for longer than 45 mins unless we're out and he's moving! I would probably wake him if he'd racked up more than 6 hours sleep during the day as he tends to sleep for 13 hours at night so needs some awake time during the day. Probably I'd prefer he was awake from say 5pm unless he'd not slept much in the day.
Am really trying to be flexible as was so rigid with DS1 trying to follow a routine that I stressed myself out with it all. I do believe sleep begets sleep, but I also know if he's slept all day then he'll wake up in the night! As a rule at the moment he seems to be able to stay awake for about 2 hours max so if he gets irritable then I use that as a sign for me to get him off to sleep.

maman from what I remember with DS1, the actual act of going back to work was far less stressful than the worry and planning for the weeks beforehand.

erika perfectly normal behaviour

weston re bottle feeding, have you tried starting baby on your boob then move to the bottle once the feed gets going. Or, try DH/DP to give the feed as baby might be smelling milk on you.

Grrrrr. More ML pay headache. They do my skull in where i work. I so so want to tell them to go Do One.

I'm also guilty of prodding Isaac to see if he's still breathing. He seems to be getting the hang of going to bed at about 7.30pm yay! but I'm forever running up to check on him even though I can hear him breathing on the monitor. . I'm trying to pay attention to when he naps as I think this has a big effect on how he sleeps at night.

He's getting too big for his moses basket so am trying to decide if we should bring his cot into our room or put him into his own room as I don't sleep well at all with him in with us. Just think I'm a bit paranoid yet!

He's due for his second lot of jabs next week and is also having his bcg on Weds so routine may go to pot.

lemontop when you do move to the cot, put the moses basket in the cot for the first few nights and he'll get used to the cot from the security of his basket. We moved DS1 at about 3 months or so as he was keeping me awake with his murmerings during the night. I did used to have the monitor up full volume and it took a few weeks before that went down to the lowest as he was just as noisy through that as in our room!!

Am so looking forward to 7pm tonight. Am exhausted - DS1 has verbal diahorrea (sp?) and hasn't stopped all day. DS2 has had an off day today, not feeding well and not napping well (viscous circle) so I've had no break at all. Roll on when they both go to bed and I can breathe in peace!!

Oh and fleeces - where do people get them from please? Am looking to get one - do people use the buggy snuggles ones?
Thanks

just bookmarking, hopefully reading through tomorrow

Laugs yes please! have just finished Memory Keepers Daughter if any one else would like to read it?

Maybe we could do a book circular type thing and just keep posting them on?

Erika totally normal. I'm not as panicky about Alfred as I was abut ds1 (paranoid doesn't cover it) but I do keep a close eye on him.

Alfie has outgrown his moses basket at 5wks! We have ordered the matress for the cot and he will be in there by next weekend. He's outgrown all his 0-3mnths now too and is in 3-6.

Hope you are all well x

erika sounds like perfectly normal behaviour. I hardly ever dream about LO and when I do they're horrible dreams about her being ill or something

sass good book, isn't it? I'm still finding it hard to identify myself as a mother, it's so strange to have Lucy in my life, for every last day I have. And I find it weird that it is an unconditional thing for her - although it is for me. Do you ever ask your son why he's chosen you as a mum and how did he know that it was the right choice? I guess what I'm trying to say is Lucy's still such a mistery to me, she cannot really express her feelings and I'm just not sure that she definitely likes me. Although she doesn't behave as though she doesn't, I hasten to add. But I do love the whole learning about each other and the book describes this so well.

pavlov I express both sides at the same time, into one bottle, using the same pump. It didn't occur to me that I shouldn't...

raggie I would so be up for an oxford meet!

pav both sides go into the same bottle here too.

ninja we're up into the 3-6 months clothes although he's 2 months old so not as little as your little man.

Tonight has gone better than last night, just up twice to settle him and didn't have to pick him up, so really hoping he's getting the idea of the bedtime thing!
Still no luck on naps that cross a sleep cycle though. I don't understand how he can be like that in the daytime but sleep soundly at night? I thought if there were bad associations with sleep they happened day and night. Any ideas ladies?

Keeping fingers crossed the good sleep continues scarlotti. Similarly, we've had a sleeping bundle since just before seven and I know she's lightly woken and settled herself. It was a battle to get her to nod off though but she was so tired! She never wants to sleep during the day and lik eyour LO never does more than 45 mins (if that!) unless she's in her pushchair. Seems to be a common problem...

Afraid I don't have any solutions but I suppose we should be grateful for the long sleep now and we get an evening to ourselves, even if it means a tetchy day fighting sleep. I can deal with it a lot better when I'm fully awake, rather than half asleep through the night.

Do you wake him for a last feed? Rosa had one at 11 last night when she woke when we got home and slept like an angel til 3, then half 6. Hoping for a repeat prescription tonight so just about off to do that now.

skorpion once this snow has subsided, let's do it. Meantime we can think about places to go!