April 2009 - Episode 10 - Christmas time!! we can all drink wine, while children gurgle nursery rhymes, with logs in their nappies, and pee by the tree fun will be had by baby and me!!

[SantasNutts]

here we go then Merry Christmas One and all!! xxxxx

Hello everyone!

Welcome back Bebe.
Sorry about the sickness, everyone. We are just coming out the other side of a nasty and worrying week of V having bronchiolitis. Big sympathies to all of you suffering with similar - and allergies, too.

Wriggly, do you have a cute toy lamb that your dd can tuck under her arm as a shepherd? And wellies and a raincoat... that is what shepherds wear in real life, tho the nativity tradition is tea towels on heads and shapeless shift thingies, I think...

Boff, surely it is unrealistic in this day and age to attempt to replicate the traditional ease and privilege of being a middle class man with as widely as would be required for any kind of fairness - this kind of life was traditionally available to relatively few and propped up with unpaid or badly paid labour by women and the working class. Also, how do you know the non-working women near you are boring? They a. might be interesting even if they don't have 8 degrees, b. might be better educated than you think given that, as you point out, there are few incentives to stay in a high powered job when you have children.

AA I do remember several of the stories of your H's boss. He sounds like a complete cock. What a shame that proper adults have to be at the mercy of people like him. I suppose as a small mercy (and not to take away from the shitty time you're having) at least he's away a lot because he has to be and not because he wants to

fudge

just came back from school in tears

phoenix told me that her 3 best friends told her yesterday that they were fed up of her and didnt want to be her friends anymore

i told her that all the other girls liked her and that she had lots of other friends besides these 3 and that she could play with someone else for a while

this morning she ran up to 2 of the 3 best friends as usual went to give them a hug, got pushed away and told to go away botrh girls turned their backs and started hugging eachother and laughing. it was horrible and awkward for me god knows how phoenix felt

i cuddled p until the teacher came, and told her not to worry and just to stay away from them for a while. i have never seen my baby so dejected

how can 5 year olds be such nasty bitches.

and i cant do a damn thing about it

they did something similar at the start of this year.

nasty nasty nasty, i so wanted to bring her home

No Zulu fudge fingers!

WeWillLeadYouIntoSmutationAndDeliverYouFromCleanThoughtsTiggaxx

fudge.
I want to be on here all day catching up and getting the low down... but I must be super efficient today so that I can get things ready for when my sickly dh is back home (so we can relax this weekend).

P.s. I'm going into the attic. If you do not hear from me by tomorrow evening assume the ladder has fallen down and I'm stuck up there... Of course I'm sure you all hear my little elf screaming WAY before then...Super sonic vocal capacity lately!

Bugger. Should have know better than to say fugde on here. Be careful bebe!

Nutty, little girls can be so horrible. They'll probably be her best friends again next week. Poor wee P

FUDGE dammit

fudge fingers

Auld - I feel your pain on the cabin fever. I know you are working hard but can you take a few minutes off for some scheduled skype chats with mates? You could have a drink and a gossip as if you had met in a bar or cafe... although it is not the same as real life being with rriends it might be nice. Sorry if I am just being trite.

Nutty - OUCH I feel your pain. Poor little girl. Big hugs to her from me. 5 seems very young for all that, when I was at school (a million years ago) I don't remember much of that sort of thing till secondary school. Still, she has you to look after her and you are a force to be reckoned with!

Oh Nutty

Little girls are horrors. They really are. She will get through it but it must be heart breaking for you having to leave her there.

Did the teacher have anything to say about it?

Auld - sending evil curses to your DH's boss (boils on his nose etc).

Zulu - fudge definitely.

And thanks for all the nativity ideas. DD is wrapped in the blue shawl at the moment. Will play around with some other things and see what we come up with. Sadly we left her cuddly lamb toys at the ILs so shepherd ideas are out. Unless I dress S up as a sheep.... he he he

Wriggly - i think regarding sleep t is teelting she was ok last night went through but i think its just the occasional bad week or so. oooh costume could you make a star out of cardboard and cover it in glitter with some tights underneath?

Bebe Welcome Back

WFH your christmas name is fab as are everyone elses

Suprise- oh no for a poorly-ness hope everyone gets better soon

Yikes Tiggs!! that is a quick wedding!!

Auld ((hugs))

Auld - i know exactly how you feel re not being able to go anywhere after a certain time etc, it makes it harder knowing that your other half is around just not available to you thought in your case ((hugs)) xxx

Hey Ginger where have you been and what have you been up to lady? yikes poor v, hope shes alot better now x

Zulu - choc coconut squares for me please !!

i couldnt get to the teacher cos nasty one and nasty 2 were holding her hands, the thing is nasty 1 was having a crying fit yesterday and phoenix hugged her and told her she would look after her and took her into class only to be told later that day that she was no longer to be her friend!! sucks. it lasted a month last time and they only have until next friday in school then they break up for christmas, i know p will brood over christmas if its not sorted by then.

seriously these girls are like teenagers already 5 is the new 15 or so it seems

Nutty please tell Bogeys if the girls are being horrible to my little P, then she has to ignore them and she can be friends with me and all my family and friends and we will have a fabulous time over Christmas in Dippy's art box and they will be really jealous!

Can you have a word with the parents or can I come down to the school and slap have a word with the girls??? I don't know how to deal with it, I am already upset enough about them doing it to little P, goodness knows what I will be like with K, although K is my child so he'll probably just whack them and then get expelled!

When does she finish school?

Nutts, do they ever do it to other girls in the group? I know P would be an easy target as she doesn't have a nasty bone in her body but are they always picking on her?

she finishes today at 10 past 3, i'm going to have a word with the teacher then, but she breaks up on the 18th. and nope not that i've seen, just her, this is the second time and i'ts really blatant, i would have noticed if it was either of the others. i dont think they pick on her all the time but they seem to pick and choose when they want to be friends with her iyswim and are nasty about it. i know she can be a bit bossy and stubborn when she wants to do something but not to the point where she should be ostrasized for it. thing is shes really attached to them both.

at least i know shes loyal lol i just wish it wasnt to them right now

Oh Nutty poor P... I remember what it's like, was in a group of three friends and the other 2 frequently ganged together to exclude me from things. Not nice at all. Why not talk to their parents, if you know them well? In the meantime does P have other friends, maybe outside school, that she could have a play date with to take her mind off things?

Ginger so sorry to hear about bronchiolitis, that must have been scary, is V okay now?

Surprise, D&V oh no, and on the day of her Christening as well Hope you're all getting over it now.

Auld get well wishes to your DS1 too, and sounds like your evenings are lonely, thank god for mumsnet Nasty evil boss.

I just KNOW that DD1 will be the target of girly nastiness in the years to come as well... I am already sad for her

Nutts there are 2 things Sam isn't allowed to be, a bully and a drummer!

BloodyHateBully'sTiggaxx

Tigga i keep reading your name as Effytigga and keep thinking you're in a bad mood... obviously my reading and writing skills are low from jetlaggy lack of sleep (or so i'll pretend)

still not been up there (attic) yet... should have gone up while Meg was napping, but I didn't want to move her (the hatch is in her room and I don't like to open it when she's in there and I cannot cover things up so that the fiber glass particles don't float down on her.)

I remember when my mom had the talk with me about other girls being mean...I think it's one we all have to have at some point with our girls...though at 5, that's harsh!

A drummer Tigga? What's wrong with drummers?

Yeah I want K to be a drummer!

Why ARE girls like that?

I've got all my xmas presents for everyone! Now all I need to do is start wrapping!

Nothing wrong with drummers so long as you have soundproofed garage.

What IS it with babies and fireplaces!!!