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essenceofSES · 01/12/2009 21:50

Hope that works!

Cocktail anyone?!

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essenceofSES · 09/12/2009 08:05

WOOHOO!!!
After our initial problems getting DS to sleep last night, he then slept til 4am!!!!! I then sat up in bed and fed him and he went back to sleep so I transferred him back into his cot at 4.45am and he slept til 7.30am!!!
Let's hope he can repeat it and go to sleep at proper bedtime!

Hope you're all ok and the poorlies are feeling better.

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runningdonkey · 09/12/2009 09:23

yeeeeeee haaaaa Ses lets hope it a sign of things to come. A is still improving as well, two feeds at midnight and 4am last night which is fab for us. Even better tho is that the last two nights I have put her down sleepy but awake and she has settled herself to sleep

momi hope you enjoy the choc cake. Am so pleased that you liked it Fi I'm going to make on next week to take into our work Christmas lunch, think I might try to make it look like a Christmas pud... on which note, how hilarious is that outfit I might have to buy it purely to see the look of horror on DH's face

Belg grrr at your GP. I would def get a second opinion.

ladyh stripey stairs sound great.

flip glad you can offload to your GP, it will all help. You' ve got to do what's best for you wrt feeding. If giving up bf will make you more then don't feel pressured into dropping feeds or owt.

Am so glad I don't do farmville as its exctly the kind of thing I get addicted to. Don't need another thing along with MN

Today's task is to finish wrapping some pressies, although am out this afternoon picking up a door bouncer from a friend who has a spare one as she also bought a jumperoo. Am thinking that A is going to love it as she loves bouncing on my lap at the moment - its brilliant arm exercise!

Have a good day all x

runningdonkey · 09/12/2009 09:35

Oh sorry, knew I'd forget somebody.

looby so sorry things are so tough with your mum. Coping with dementia is awful. We got great support here for DH's family when his grandad was diagnosed. I think they might now have online forums as well. Hope the meeting with SS goes ok and you get some help with her.

Febesisachristmascracker · 09/12/2009 09:35

Ses Wow what a great night. Well done O.
R woke at 1.30 last night and I finally fed him at 3.45. Then he woke again at 7. I really didn't want to as I have been stretching him longer and longer but he just wasn't playing the game last night.

Momino Our house is a constant construction site as well. DH is tiling the kitchen/dining room floor today so I won't beable to get in there and everything is stacked around the house so its difficult to walk around. I'm taking the DCs to soft play in an hour and then we will get a bite to eat somewhere to leave him to it.

Belgian I hate it when the GP doesn't seem to listen properly or gives advice like take painkillers. Not helpful. Is there another GP at the surgery you could see??

Fi I love the outfits. Hope your household is back to full health soon.

runningdonkey · 09/12/2009 10:21

Note to self, must stop MN'ing while A is asleep.

Anyone got any bright ideas for this

llareggub · 09/12/2009 13:19

Oooh ladyH I am very jealous of your stripy carpet. We wanted one but couldn't due to our bendy stairs.

Jael your trip sounded wonderful. I need to work on DH I think!

Looby sorry to hear about your mother. My grandfather had dementia and it is hard on everyone. In his case he became embarrassingly racist and we were forever explaining and apologising to medical staff.

flippineck I hope you get your counselling soon. Regarding modes of feeding, I think you need to go with your instinct and do what you feel is right for you.

ses great news on the sleeping. I hope G gets there soon.

No real news here. I am feeling very guilty about all I've said about my MIL. As you may remember, we had terrible problems last year. ANyway, she gave me £60 yesterday because "I know how expensive this time of year is" and it is very welcome indeed, given that DH is working very hard on his business and I'm now on no pay. Bless her.

flippineckitsnearlychristmas · 09/12/2009 13:34

Afternoon all.

ses- fab night! long may it continue...improve, even!

We had a dreadful night, but it was DD1, not A. She (DD1, not A) was ill, upset and grumpy all night, wouldn't settle anywhere, crying despite all the painkillers we could get into her etc. Managed - incredibly! - to get a GP appt this morning, poor thing has an ear and throat infection. I feel like sh*t though, I shouted at her in the night because I'd only just got A back to sleep, and was desperate myself. I wish I could apologise to her, but no point, not sure she she remembers or would understand, iyswim. So I bought her a magazine to make me feel better . Please tell me I'm not the only one.

Mominohoho · 09/12/2009 13:36

running, there were a few good ideas on that thread. I liked the vodka/russian hat one.

ses, excellent sleeping by O! may it carry on...

llare, very nice of your MIL . don't feel too guilty, relationships with MIL's are often strained as you know. Mine is very similar and then she does something really nice/helpful like yours did and I feel a bit guilty.

How is everyone today?

gotta cut this short as H is screaming in her cot. she's woken up a bit early from a nap, must be a full nappy or something wrong.

llareggub · 09/12/2009 13:38

flippineck, you are not the only one...

Febesisachristmascracker · 09/12/2009 14:06

Llaggub That's nice of your MIL. Mine drives me mental and I love her in equal doses too.

Running What a cool sounding party. I have a russian hat somewhere and I love vodka. Maybe I should gatecrash . What about a kilt and take whisky? Or a manhatten/ cosmopilitan cocktail and go as Carrie from SITC.

Flippin Believe me you are not the only one. I am not nice to my lovely DCs in the middle of the night when they are keeping me up. I always feel so guilty in the morning but sleep deprivation is the worst torture there is. I hope DD1 is better soon. Is she on antiBs?

I took the DCs to soft play this morning and we stayed there for lunch and they are both napping now so I'm pleased about that. DH has tiled half the floor already so we will have to go somewhere cheap and cheerful for dinner tonight as we can't get to the cooker or sink in the kitchen. I was meant to be meeting friends for a curry tonight but its been cancelled as my BF is down with the lurgy. I on the otherhand am feeling much better today.

Hi everyone else.

Loobylou36 · 09/12/2009 16:03

afternoon all

thanks for all your support about my mum

sorry this is going to be a me, me me post again
have no one I can talk to about this stuff in RL

We didn't meet the SS lady in the end, they rang my dad this morning to say they're sending mum home on Monday, dad said we'd be over to see her today with M but they said they'd talk to him on monday when she was back at home. So we went over to see her and take her some sweets, got to the ward and sat down to talk to her and she was in bed with a sick bowl which rang alarm bells, we'd been there for 5mins when a nurse came in to say it wasn't a good idea to visit her as mum and the other lady in the room had a vomiting bug - so we said goodbye and came home again . Just wish they'd told my dad about this when they rang him so we didn't have to make the 28mile round trip and risk infecting M.

So anyway we came home to find a letter telling me I have to go for a colposcopy as I have severe cell changes. I had a colposcopy and biopsy before we tried for M when I had mild cell changes. So now I am bricking it!

I know it's probably nothing but my sister died from cervical cancer so I always get panicky.

Plus the consultant I saw last time is a misoginistic (sp?) who was very rough and the same man bodged stitching me up after my c-section.

Loobylou36 · 09/12/2009 16:05

on the plus side M's new shoes arrived from Funky Feet (ladybugs) and she looks so cute in them

and she can't kick them off!

Parumpumpumtumm · 09/12/2009 17:29

Afternoon all

Looby please rant away. It's important you have a channel to vent on, and we want to support you though this difficult time. I can't believe that the hospital didn't warn you about the bug. Also about the colposcopy news. At least they are being proactive. Will be sending prayers for you and your family at this difficult time.

Fi hope you are feeling on the mend. Oh, and fantastic outfits btw.

Febes glad you are feeling better. How's the kitchen now?

Momi how's the choccie cake going?

Running wow, you have cool friends. I would never have the imagination to think of that fancy dress idea !

Flip glad you are getting some support from the GP

Belgia grrr at Drs. Sometimes they can be useless. But hope it was reassuring about DD1

Ses yay for great night

Jael hope you are feeling better, and at your lovely trip

Llare MILs are made to annoy us. How lovely of her.

Sorry if I've missed anyone out.

Speaking of MILs, both DH's and my family are being a nightmare at the moment. These situations have culminated in both my and DH's parents coming to us for Christmas. Yes, that's right MIL and PIL are at my house for Christmas !!! I suspect I will need a vat of champagne to get me through. My M&D have been visiting for a couple of days, and also to help wallpaper my dining rm wall. My Mum made me really because she is rubbish at communicating about anything important. In fact she was incredibly rude when I tentatively brought up a subject I wanted to talk about from my childhood. It makes me so sad that I can't have a decent relationship with my Mum when I really want one, and I really hope that my relationship with my DC (and DDs in particular) is better and stronger. I suppose the good thing to draw from this is that I won't be like that with my kids.

llareggub · 09/12/2009 17:51

Oh loobs you rant as much as you need. I'm sure everything will be fine, but I'll say a little prayer for you.

Tummum if it all gets too much, you can decamp to my house if you like!

HeadlessLadyH · 09/12/2009 20:05

looby keeping my fingers crossed for your coloscopy (sp?). Can't beleive that the hospital want to send your mum home. I really hope they give your family some proper support. Rant away. You know we will always have a supportive shoulder for you to cry on.

tummum I feel your IL pain. ANyone remember the wearing odd safety shoe story from end of October? Well the PIL will also be with us over Christmas aswell. Oh joy. My mum also as Dad not back from South Africa till the 29th. I'll join you in the champagne vat!

I'll post a pic of the new carpet when I get a new camera. Lost mine at the wedding we went to on Sat. I think someone walked off with it. Am hoping accidentally......

Still can't think of a christmas name. Inspiration has well and truly left the building.

flippineckitsnearlychristmas · 09/12/2009 20:31

Evening all.

looby - grr at all the stuff going on with your mum. I can't believe they are sending her home. And to not warn you/your dad about the bug. Kick up a stink. And sending you very best wishes for the colposcopy, thinking of you. Can understand it must be very difficult.

febes - glad you are on the mend. Hope your floor is finished soon, but hey, no washing up tonight!

Our day has been ok, DD1 has got antibiotics for her throat and ears. She wasn't too bad today, a bit pale and subdues but not terrible until about an hour before bed time when all of a sudden both girls descended into tantrums/inexplicable screaming. Think they were both incredibly tired, bed and bath was hell as usual but they both crashed out quite quickly. Fingers crossed for an ok night, we'll be alternating calpol and ibuprofen for DD1 to get her through the night with hopefully not too much upset.

flippineckitsnearlychristmas · 09/12/2009 20:38

at the thought of parents and ILs all together for Christmas. No way, it would be a nightmare in our family. But llaregub - how nice of your MIL.

ladyh - what a pain about your camera.

essenceofSES · 09/12/2009 20:51

Just had this email from a friend. Sorry it looks lengthy but it made me smile

My Mum has had me for 7 months. The first few months were great-I cried, she picked me up and fed me, anytime, day or night. Then something happened. Over the last few weeks, she has been trying to STTN (sleep thru the night). At first, I thought it was just a phase, but it is only getting worse. I've talked to other babies, and it seems like it's pretty common after Mums have had us for around 6 months.

Here's the thing: these Mums don't really need to sleep. It's just a habit. Many of them have had some 30 years to sleep -they just don't need it anymore. So I am implementing a plan. I call it the Crybaby Shuffle.

It goes like this:

Night 1--cry every 3 hours until you get fed. I know, it's hard. It's hard to see your Mummy upset over your crying. Just keep reminding yourself, it's for her own good.
Night 2--cry every 2 hours until you get fed.
Night 3--every hour.Most Mummies will start to respond more quickly after about 3 nights. Some Mummies are more alert, and may resist the change longer. These Mummies may stand in your doorway for hours, shhhh-ing.

Don't give in.. I cannot stress this enough: CONSISTENCY IS KEY!!If you let her STTN (sleep through the night), just once, she will expect it every night. I KNOW IT'S HARD! But she really does not need the sleep, she is just resisting the change. If you have an especially alert Mummy, you can stop crying for about 10 minutes, just long enough for her to go back to bed and start to fall asleep. Then cry again. It WILL eventually work. My Mummy once stayed awake for 10 hours straight, so I know she can do it. Last night, I cried every hour. You just have to decide to stick to it and just go for it. BE CONSISTENT!

I cried for any reason I could come up with.
My gro-bag tickled my foot.
I felt a wrinkle under the sheet.
My mobile made a shadow on the wall.
I burped, and it tasted like pears (I hadn't eaten pears since lunch - what's up with that?)
The dog said "woof" (I should know. My Mummy reminds me of this about 20 times a day.)
Once I cried just because I liked how it sounded when it echoed on the monitor in the other room.
Too hot, too cold, just right--doesn't matter! Keep crying!!
It took awhile, but it worked. She fed me at 4am. Tomorrow night, my goal is 3:30am.

You need to slowly shorten the interval between feedings in order to reset your Mummies' internal clock

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essenceofSES · 09/12/2009 21:05

Looby - fingers crossed for your colposcopy. Also agree that you should complain to the hospital about lack of communication about the bug.

Tumm - woah!! You are brave! Hope it all works out ok.

Febes - glad you're feeling better!

flippin - sorry for sterssful bedtime but I hope they stay crashed out until morning!

Running - v imaginative idea for fancy dress but I have to confess I hate fancy dress parties

Hello everyone else. Sorry of I've missed anything important...

Hoping O can repeat his great sleeping tonight...
He should be tired as we had a great day off seeing Santa. He loved it and was full of smiles for Santa. He got a small cuddly penguin as a present. We also did our secret santa today within our NCT group. O got some bath toys which was great and we used them this evening.

Tomorrow night all the couples in our NCT group are going out for a curry. I've asked my mum to babysit but she thinks she wouldn't be able to pick O up if he cries after her keyhole surgery on her shoulder 5 weeks ago. Let's hope he sleeps well tomorrow too...

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HeadlessLadyH · 09/12/2009 21:06

Brilliant ses. LOL!!

Loobylou36 · 09/12/2009 21:11

essence of ses crybaby shuffle v.funny

runningdonkey · 09/12/2009 21:16

ses like it

flip sorry to hear dd1 is poorly. Hope she feels better soon. Hope you are ok too, am sure she will forgive you for shouting (if she remembers)

tum both sets of parents sounds v brave. Am just glad our house is too small for any such behaviour

loobs so sorry for all your stresses with your Mum. I would make a complaint about the vomiting bug not being mentioned tbh although you probably don't need the extra stress atm. Fingers crossed for the colposcopy too.

febes am sure you'd be welcome to crash the party if you bring vodka

tum I think my friends would be v chuffed to be described as cool, they include a mathematician and several geeky computer types

Right must go to bed. A went to sleep after drinking only 1oz of milk. Am sure that I'm in for an interesting night.

Jinglebelgina · 09/12/2009 21:19

ses I read this on another forum. It also made me smile. TBH I think C has read it and thinks it's a brilliant idea

flippin Hope your dd1 gets better soon. You're not the only one. I've shouted at the dcs before only for them to fall ill later on in the day/next day

ladyH How annoying about your camera. Hope it turns up

looby I can imagine why you were angry with the hospital. I also can't believe they send her home without listening to the family first and without discussing any help that might be put in place either. I also hope your colposcopy will turn out to be OK. Sending you some non MNy hugs Also, if you don't like the dr you saw last time, you can change consultants you know. You need to see someone you're comfortable with.

I'm feeling a bit poo at the moment. I'm coming down with something. That's lack of sleep for you I suppose. I'm hoping for a better night as C woke up with a new tooth today. Off centre at the top to the left, which is funny, because dd1 had her first top one off centre, but to the right. I've also not fed her for when she wakes before 4, so lets hope she's getting the message. We also went to baby clinic today. Despite her not eating all that much solid food, her weight is still following the line, so BM is clearly still all she needs and still enough too

I'm quite excited about tomorrow evening. Someone organised 'mebay' in the village, so I'm going along with lots of clothes and I'm hoping to sell most of them. She came up with the idea, because she found putting stuff on eBay a bit tedious.

pulacracker · 09/12/2009 21:35

Ses- that made me laugh! Sleep training is going OK here, or at least at night it is. Last night S fed at 12.30 and 6am (although we did cosleep until 3.30 after the 12.30 feed as i just cant stay awake!). But in the day, S hasn't slept more than 20 mins at a time for 2 days, and has only napped for 1-1.5 hours in total per day for the last few days. Not sure why . So i am still feeling tired.

essenceofSES · 09/12/2009 21:52

Glad that made some people laugh

I think I'm off to bed now. On recent form I'm expecting O to wake up at around 2am.
Here's to good nights all round!

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