October 2009 babies - Waving arms and gummy smiles make the sleepless nights worthwhile.

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Here we are on the other side-finally. Well done ladies!

On 2nd lot of AB's and they are suitable for BF so no expressing needed.

HC
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Hi everyone.

Seems ages that I have managed to get on here.Have had nightmare with night-time sleeping last week Nathaniel woke up around 5 am and took over an hour to get back to sleep.
It just been horrendous and now I`ve got mastitis too which is b*** painful.Never had it with other 2 DCs.
Since his jabs sleep just has gone downhill he used to sleep quite well at night beforehand.Dreading the next set next week.

Naps are still hard so migt start some sleep training too migh order that book treats.

HC lovely pics Nathaniel has the same dungaree set as M have to see whether it fits him yet.And what a good weight.N was 11lbs 7ozs at 13 weeks seems so small compare to others on here.

Nathaniel seems to be suddenly reacting to Huggies nappies not sure why.Did try some reusable nappy and liked them was some nice fluffy one.Which ones does everyone use?
Thinking of trying them properly now as before just had no time but would like to now.

Calypso Nathaniel gains weight slowly too so have decided not to weigh him too much as he looks fine and my body will give him excaclty what he needs.Looking forward to meeting you two on friday.

Treats watched panorama too lots of sugar in follow on milk too.Found it funny how Annabel Karmel try to justify the sugar and salt levels in her food range.Am glad I cook everything from scratch myself for kids and have always been carful with sugar and salt.

Hugs and kisses to you all and lots of sleep vibes from me.

HT would you like to contact me through contact sender? Understand if you don't.

treats just orderd that book thanks

Had lovely afternoon yesterday at MILs. Got some shopping done and then played board games with my neices while various people came and cooed at Joseph. The walk there and back nocked him out and cleared his nose. Then, after legging it to the library yesterday to pick up The Sensational Baby Sleep Plan, I decided to try the suggested bedtime routine. Had only read part of the book but thought why not try. Joseph got off to sleep much easier AND (whispers) he has been asleep for 9 straight hours only stirring twice to feed in his sleep. Still co-sleeping but the cot beckons! Treats -big thank you for the rec, methinks you are going to be v popular!

How are all the colds? Joseph is still really congested. Saline nose drops and a humidifier are making the biggest difference.

fidelma Wondered where you were. So very sorry that you are going through the terror of referral, I know how scary it is. Most lumps are harmless but they have to be on the safe side. I've now got 2 small cysts on the underside of my left breast since Joseph was born-have lumpy boobs anyway but this is app very common from what my doctor said. Bit scary when I first found them though. I remember how terrified I was when referred urgently a few years ago. GP had said he'd refer me as urgent so I'd be seen in 2 weeks. 3 hours later I got a call from the hospital telling me to come in 2 days later. Up popped all sorts of buried memories of my dad's cancer diagnosis and I had 2 v fearful sleepless nights.All was well, thankfully. My advice would be to stop googling, stay well away from the breast cancer forums and don't read too much into it if your appointment comes through quickly. That sunny, positive disposition of yours (and frantically busy life [grin)] will keep you going until then. Remember-google no more! I will work out how to contact sender through MN.

henrietta welcome

bella uggh, mastitis is horrible, hope you feel better soon. Have you tried combing the affected breast with a wide-tooth comb when in the shower? That helped me a lot. My issues around poor weight gain started when I had mastitis so that might be what is causing it in Nathaniel? It too us a few weeks.

Calypso I hope you get some answers soon re Annalise's weight gain.Could it be reflux related?

Love to all x

Argghh-my k key seems to be sticking-apologies for apparent typos

Hi all

Welcome Hooray, the more the merrier.

fidelma-no wonder you are so worried but please don't google. Does sound like a cyst but hope you get seen soon to confirm this.

HT-lol at yout fabric conditioner blunder.

Still feeling poo here so FIL has taken the girls to school and nursery. Need to summon the energy to collect them later.

Matthew has started crying and screaming before he goes to sleep at night. Awful to listen to. He is fine when I pick him up but doesn't want to feed so had to let him cry or I would be holding him all night.

Must go and get some hot orange and honey.

HC
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thanks for your messages.I am not worried at the moment.

I am off to meet my Dad and grandma who is 84 and living on her owne to try and convince her that she needs to move to a retierment village!It should be interestingHaving said that the village looks so fantastic that I think I will move in

Off to perpare the ballet and swimming bags,snacks for tea.I hate doing these sort of things.Would much rather eat cake and drink tea !!!

Connor went to bed at 7 fed at 10,12,3,6 Sadly that is a good nightHe is in 6-12 month clothes today,they are alittle big but not much.We have been looking at photos of DS1 and C is the double,they could be twins.

Fidelma, what a scare! Glad its all sounds like a cyst, but it must of been really scarey when you first found it. Glad to hear the dinner party went well

Must get that book, sounds good.

Been up all night again, this time both of them are sick but its easy to tell that Faith has injection now. Phoned the wonderful med centre, and guess what....they can see her & DS on Monday . She even ended the phone call with "is that ok?" No its bloody not! So Faith, and only Faith, as there is no more room, is seeing the nurse. I cant leave her over the weekend. She is waking up screaming after coughing alot, and cant breath with her cold, not much bottle being taken as she coughs & sicks everything up. Honestly, poor wee things have to go through much. How is everyone else getting on with the colds etc?

Bella we are using German nappies here which seem to be great. When DS was a baby, the only nappies i could use on him where Tesco's own brand.

Well its snowing here again! Getting really fed up with it lol.....only so many snowmen you can build!

Hi to everyone!!

littlepea-put the shower on in the bathroom and after letting it run 5 mins, try feeding Faith in there. The steam will help unblock her nose and she should feed more easily. I so feel for babies with colds, it must be awful not to be able to blow your nose. Hope they are both better soon and you can get some sleep.

Back home.No way is my Grandma moving and that is that.

Lots of steaming for all thoes bad colds.

hc - that is like charlie, he seems to need to be put down sometimes when he's overtired and he's asleep within minutes.

Glad the book was helpful HT. I didn't get much of a look at it tbh - the assistant came and asked me if I needed any help which I interpreted as "If you're not going to pay for that book, then kindly stop spoiling it for someone else....." . Let us know how it goes.

fidelma - fingers crossed for you. I'm sure it will be fine, but I'm sure you don't need the worry right now. What was wrong with the retirement village????

Calypso - I hope the dr is helpful and you can figure out a way between you to get Annalise's weight back on track. I shall get all on your behalf if you just get sent away and told to give her formula.....

My cold has cleared up nicely, but Isabel is still blocked up. I bought a nasal aspirator (sp?) today to see if it helps with the congestion

Bumbo warning!!! Don't know if anyone else has one of these. We put Isabel in it quite a lot as she prefers sitting up to lying down, but can't support herself yet. But I changed her nappy after she'd been sitting in it this morning and the poo had been pushed all the way up her back to her SHOULDERS thanks to the supporting bit at the back. Boy, was that a fun clean up......

Treats-that sounds like one of Matthew's nappies and that is not when he has been in the Bumbo.

fidelma-oh dear, perhaps your Grandma may reconsider in a few months time.

HC
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Treats my mum just sent me a nasal aspirator, its great! Didnt think it was working untill i saw all the "stuff" in it. At first i wasnt putting it in far enough, but i now wish i had gotten one earlier on.

Fidelma was the village bad? Or did your Grandma just really not like it?

HT im going to try the shower, never thought about giving her a feed while it was on, roll on tomorrow

Faith has a chest injection, but not matter what she goes through, all she does it smile (when she isnt crying lol).

Now for the exciting stuff ....my holiday has been paid!!! I cannot wait! Im going to Montana with 2 off my girlfriends for a week. 11 years ago i went on holiday on my own, and i went to Montana to a working ranch. Ive been back a few more times & the owner Tony is like a 2nd father to me. I cant wait to see him! Will be good to have a break with my mates, but not sure how i will feel when i have to leave the kids behind, im sure they will have fun with my DH though. A whole week working on horseback, even though im scared off riding i think i just love the fear it gives. So i go in August & i cant wait!!!!

Treats the bumbo story was funny . But thanks for the warning, Faith loves it so i will know what to except if she does a poo!

Nothing wrong with the retirement village just she isn't moving to another country (England)

Nor leaving her home of 40 years despite needing new windows and central heatting. (she wont have workmen in either)Sleeping upstairs despite only being able to come down them backwards.Also locking herself in the bedroom at night.Using a bath lift but never wearing the panic necklace.

And anyway Grandad is under the rose bush so that is that

I think I need to visit more often as my dad is in London.

I don't mind too much but if you know the song "you canny shove your granny off the bus" you will understand because "she's my Daddys mammy!!!"

All 4 in bed drinking tea and eatting a whole bag of mini eggs S!

I want some more xx

Filelma sounds like your Grandma is as hard as nails! Doubt you will ever get her to move unless she wants it lol....She could teach us a thing or two, but how can she go without central heating in this weather! xx

littlepea she has heating but it is very old and not very efficiant.

i have finally decided that c has silent reflux.any advice ?i seem to remember my others got much better once solids were introduced.

WAVES Hello at everyone!

The Scout family is still in the US until the end of the weekend but I've been reading the thread, just not able to respond since we've been running around shopping, visiting friends & family, being visited, and enjoying being spoiled. I seem to be dreading going back to the UK, which makes me sad because I like the life I have established for myself there.

Poor BabyScout doesn't seem to have any sort of pattern or routine here which, for the most part, doesn't seem to be bothering him too much. Except for the fact that I've noticed he's had a meltdown or two because he's been so overly tired he can't seem to settle. The result has been hubby or I bundling him up and taking him outside for five minutes which does the trick. He seems to like my parents' recliner and the last two/three nights we seem to have fallen asleep together on it and been left to stay there, wrapped up in blankets, for hours so we can both have a good sleep. The sleep has been wonderful, but I hope I haven't set a precident with the young one and that he'll always want to sleep with me on a recliner (we don't have one at home). He was never the best sleeper to begin with, not liking his basket, needing me to fall asleep, etc -- though I've been able to more-or-less break his need for comfort sucking on me to fall asleep when I finally found a pacifer he likes. He still prefers to fall asleep on me or in the car than on his own.

When we get back home, after having the adjustment back to UK time, I'll definitely try to start more of a routine/structure and get him to sleep in his own little space in our room. Anyone have any advice/tips? I was reading some of the "experts" books in B&N the other day and nothing I read really seemed to summarize BabyScout's personality/habits/needs to a tee. I decided long ago I know my baby best, and I know how to do what's best for him, but sometimes I feel so lost I need a bit of help.

On a positive note, though, because I hate ending things on a downer (even when I need a moan like now) I must be doing something right cuz Seb's been growing like a weed before our eyes. Even my brother, who knows nothing about babies except he thinks they're cute and they tend to love him, commented last night on how much BabyScout has grown since he saw him on Sunday.

I hope all of the poorly babies and Mommies/Mummies soon feel better! Just think, spring is right around the corner!

I think I am going to give C solids today (gasp)I gave all the others solids at this stage.C is over 17lb (i think) he is in 6-12 month clothes and I also have read that it can help the reflux.

Oh my hair is so thin.I must get a really sharp bob cut sooooooon.

Fidelma i have been thinking about solids for Faith, but at the minute she is so ill im fighting to give her the bottle! But she is now 18lb so im going to give them a go. My hair is really falling out! Everything i look at is covered, and Faith always has a handful in her mouth, hairdressers for me too.

Scout my dream is to move to America, if i were you i wouldnt come back but at least you can have holidays. Wouldnt care about the chair, just great that you are having sleep! Long may it continue

Don't think it will be long until we're on solids either-Joseph grabbed half a banana from me this morning and started stuffing it into his mouth. Most of it ended up in his face and hair, something he found most amusing.

Have finished the Sensational Baby Sleep Plan. Its ok but I can see me just cherry-picking as I don't agree with everything in it and am not comfortable with the idea of watering down feeds. Its been helpful in terms of sleep deprivation signs amd establishing bedtime routine though.

Have a good weekend all x

have started waking charlie at the same time each day so i have an idea for naps. have been putting him down awake and he's been settling very quickly (5 mins crying but not distressed howling). hope it continues this way. last night he went to bed about 8 and i had to wake him (haha) at 5 this morning as my boobs hurt so much.

planning on waiting until 6 months for weaning as that is what i did with ds1.

i'm off to london today with my sister to go the see the woman in black at the theatre. apparently it is realy scary! eek, i'm not very good with scary things! dh will drive us and go to his mum's with the boys. i hope charlie takes the bottle. i have no idea how much milk to take for him, last time he drank hardly any.

can't believe he's four months already, he's getting so big now. i must get him weighed soon.

has anyone else's older dc had the swine flu jab? ds1 has his this week.

ht - what is the sensational baby about?

I am planning on waitiing till 6 months to wean too. I had him weighed this week and he is 13lb 8ish oz. He is 3 months and 1 week. He only put on 3 oz in 2 weeks as he is poorly again. Has antib's. Think I said that in my last post...

DA that is great that you can put C down awake. If I do that with F he goes CRAZY! He screams till he's purple and almost choking If he was just tired and wimpering I'd leave him for a while.
How long is he going inbetween feeds? F still feeds a lot, with not much of a gap between feeds and short naps on me (feeding at the same time). Sometimes he'll do an hour long sleep.
It is quite draining and tying.
I escaped to Matalan and Sainsbos yest evening after feeding for a long time. Felt very odd!

I am saying to myself that he will be older soon and then easier to read. I know that the way he sleeps i.e on my boob (during the day) is the reason he's not having long chunks on his own, but I haven't the urgency to do something about it yet.
At night he usually wakes once at around 4. Sometimes goes till 5/6
Last night he woke twice at 1 and 4 ish. I think that was just due to his cold...

Dh has gone paintballing today. I was going to take kids to the farm but it snowed in the night! I am not happy driving in the snow , my tyres need changing, they are almost bald. A man is coming to do that on monday.

Hope you're all ok.

I weaned the girls at 4 months but am trying to wait until nearer 6 months before I wean Matthew. My boobs leaked in the night for the first time and I was desperate for him to wake up.

Haven't had DD2 swine flu jabbed as DH not overly keen on the idea. Don't know what to do when M is called for his.

Must get some tea on as girls grumpy with tiredness.

Big wave!

HC
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well i went to the theatre, was out from 1.30 til 7.30 and left 3 x 4oz feeds.

charlie had

no milk at all.
little bugger! all that expressing.

he refused the bottle completely. he had a quick feed when i got in and fell asleep in the car home from london and is still asleep now.

so it just goes to show, they can go for longer than they let on wonder how he'll sleep tonight.

theatre was great, woman in black was spoooooky. had champagne and cocktails with my sis in covent garden and felt vaguely like the woman i used to be!

good night everyone x