Dec 08 babies are nearly one - PARTY TIME!

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As I accidentally filled up the old thread I thought I'd better start a new one

Sorry

Sorry you have had a bad day KAyz.

This woman is being GROSSLY unprofessional in discussing your medical history in a shop. It is confidential and not something which should be discussed other than at your invitation. I last had DS weighed a year ago today when he was 9lb 13oz. He is not that now and, as I am happy with everything, I have given the HV a wide berth to allow her to concentrate on those who need her.

If you don't want to see this HV, don't. SHe cannot make you and you have no obligation to see her or any of her professional colleagues unless you want to. Ask for another one or give them all a miss.

OMG kayz that is unbelievable!!! I think you should ask to speak to her manager, not only is she being unprofessional coming to see you at work (bordering on harassment) she has no right to say that about your plans for a homebirth. Some HP really to get very upset when bad things don't happen in homebirths don't they. Really Kayz you need to complain if you get no joy from the manager you can complain to PCT or speak to PALS.

Daisy the AB's needed for Urinary tract infection do need to be quite strong but should not make her tired. I'm not sure what to say in this situation, but my feeling is maybe they are not telling you something until after the new year. I would not mention that to your DH, I'm only saying this to you because I care about you and don't really want to lie. I suspect you have been wondering the same thing. The sleepiness could be from medications they are giving her for pain relief. I could find out more by asking a few things but I think if it is as I suspect it is her wish for you not to know yet and she has done it for her own reasons and I want to respect that. I'm hoping I'm wrong. Most of my cancer experience has been caring for children palliatively at home so I have some experience but not really of adults. I'm happy to answer anything anytime for you though Daisy. If you don't want to ask here you can always ask via email or facebook. I considered writing this on your FB message bit but I think we are all so close here now that you wouldn't mind. I hope that is ok. I'm so sorry this is all happening. I would say there are options for if she or your FIL want to be at home.

Oh and I tired as she is I think you & DH should visit as much as possible and maybe DH could have some time alone to talk to her if he wants. Also visiting is good for your FIL. Is he ok?

Kayz is that the same loopy women who advised getting sedating antihistamines from the GP to help D sleep?

Yes it is. Going to speak to PALS tomorrow I think. But there are only 2 HVs and the other one us worse and is MILs friend and she tells her everything I go to HV for.

veggie thanks so much. I suspect that you are right there is more to this than we (DH/IL's/me) are being told. I suspect although I have no medical knowledge that this is the begining of the end. I spoke with FIL earlier, the Dr who saw her today appears to be stumped as to what to do next, but she is also at a different hospital to her cancer specialist and I get the feeling that they don't want to say much for fear of treading on the other consultants toes iyswim. FIL is slowly coming to terms with it all. Before Xmas I was sending food parcels round and checking in with him everyday (well I still am). I just worry he will get forgotten and won't look after himself either.

kayz at your HV! Agree with syb & veggie you do NOT have to see this woman. Can't remember when I last saw my HV. Defo complain, totally unprofessional and she is completely bonkers to boot. Hope the headache has improved.

Kayz! Shocking! I remember when I was waiting for one of my m/w appointments at the hospital and a m/w picked up my file to call me next and joked with her colleague out loud about my inadequate reason for c-section request I was so shocked and had waited so long that day that I didn't mention anything, and I regret not reporting their unprofessionalism to this day. Please don't let her get away with that one

Daisy Hope you don't mind, I had asked dh as well, he said yes it does sound either like what Veggie said, or could be the UTI itself making her drowsy. Thinking of you and the family.

Morning,

Feeling quite a bit better today. My head is still a bit achey but not as bad as it was.

Veggie or anyone else really. Is there anyway I can do any research into what causes big babies and how common it is to have more than 1 big baby? I have looked on a few websites but they tend to bang on about diabetes which I don't have. I just feel if I have some info I can just fire it of at HV and shut her up. DS2 has his jabs next Wednesday so I will have to see her.

I hope everyone is well. DS2 is teething really badly so I can't do personals as he is very very grumpy. Poor baby

Kayz your boy was a big baby end of. The only reason is he is big is just because he is a big boy! I'm sorry if I'm wrong in thinking this but you should be proud of birthing him yourself at home not ashamed or embarassed. I have a friend who naturally birthed all her 3 babies with only g&a and the smallest was a little over 10lb. The only research you need is the fact that you have birthed one baby that size so you are therefore not a risk for homebirth. However, information is power so you could look up the independant midwives association IMA or any of the homebirth support websites. My midwife had loads of info on all sorts of stuff. One piece of research I do know about in relation to size is that measurement scans are only 20% correct.

Apparently I have a higher risk of another big baby because DS2 was so big. Also the chance of a big baby increases with each baby you have.

Maybe if I wasn't so bloody broody I wouldn't be so bothered but I really want something to say to the HV next time she goes on at me.

Back from a lovely time at my sister's - off to London later today and will try to do a proper post before I go but just for now -

DaisyD - I don't remember DH being sleepy like that so I don't know...but I am thinking of you all v. much. If she is on a lot of pain medication (esp something like morphine or tramadol) that would super zonk you out, though.

Kayz - that is awful - please report her. Rubes, also v annoyed at your experience. You probably know how I feel about people who are snooty about c-sections...

WG - get the car seat and please spend an equivalent amount of your own money on something gorgeous. I would have been upset too but really it was only thoughtlessness of a kind that many men are prone to, as others have said...Hope you are having a fab time away.

Aubi - S was either Rosencrantz or Guildenstern...and really wasn't looking at all foxy...you have a lovely time away too.

Oops, must go as DP needs help with DD. More later, love to all.

Good morning all,

rubs I don't mind you asking your DH about my MIL at all, it was lovely of you to think to ask. LadyT as far as I am aware she isn't on any pain meds as yet hence why it doesn't sit right with me that its the AB's. But she may well be keeping this from us....

kayz I wouldn't have thought just because you have one big baby you would have another. I asked my mum(recently retired MW) and she doesn't see any reason for big babies (apart from diabetes) other than the fact the baby is big. Simple as! My sister's 2nd baby was just shy of 10lb, yet her 3rd was a lightweight at 7lb 2 in comparison. Mum also said that when they measure the bump its also rarely an accurate representation of the size of the baby. My BF was told her baby was going to be a 10lb plus baby - he was 7lb 5. Shame you have to see her next week, we are lucky that the practice nurse does all jabs after the 8 week check so unless I need HV I won't see her till Ds's 2 year check

Hello guys, sorry very quick post as am parents and don't want to be rude.
But we have a bit of a sleep crisis on our hands, posted thread here but no-one has answered. Has anyone here got any ideas?
Will try and come back later!

I've popped on SL but answer is quite rambled and confusing. However, I've managed to possibly help my DS2's sleep problem!

Lady had a little giggle at your Hamlet remark I did Rozencrantz & Guildenstern are dead in year 11 and you not remembering which one your friend was amused me, also reminded me of school 3unit English classes.

Hello everyone,

Thank you so much to my secret santa. I got a special fancy lip balm and it is lovely .

Happy belated birthday WG. Anyone would have been upset about the car seat present. As everyone has said men don't think things through very well and I'm sure your dad thought you would be pleased with it. It must just make you miss your mum even more though. Glad the day improved anyway, enjoy new year! Oh and we were told to wake DD up to feed her too because she lost more than 10% of her body weight. I'm not sure I'd do the same again either!

daisy Oh your poor hand. It made me feel all icky reading your post and I'm not usually squeamish at all. I hope you have had someone look at it. Sorry to hear things haven't improved with your MIL. Sending lots of love your way.

ladyT Your comment about the boxing day shoot reminded me of being at my friends house one year and pheasants literally falling dead out of the sky into her garden. Urgh it was vile!

kayz That is just dreadful of your HV. There is no complulsion for you to get DS weighed.

trace So sorry to hear about your friend

Thanks for your kind words about my mum. Her hand is very sore yet she insists on trying to do everything with one hand including chopping veg. She is an accident waiting to happen. We went to my parents a few days after christmas and the meal was passable but you could tell my dad was at the helm! My MILs meal was better on Christmas day, DD enjoyed the goose. DH insisted on letting her try pudding and brandy sauce - weirdly she liked it.

Right best go and do some tidying while DD remains asleep. It has been lovely catching up with what you have all been up to. Byeeee all.

So I am evidently not going to have time for a catch up before we go off to London but will be back on 1 Jan. I hope you all have wonderful New Year's Eves - we are off to a party at friends which will be lovely. And dinner at the house of my cricket captain tonight.

I hope 2010 is fab for all of you. I am pleased as I have just found out that one of my travel pieces is running in the paper in Feb and they have also commissioned me to write up Egypt. My first paid work of the new year, yay.

Veg, I wasn't really concentrating on Hamlet, just peering critically at my ex-flame

ladyt That is fab news for the New Year! Well done

Can I just talk about me? (again, I know sorry but you lot are keeping me sane at times honestly)

MIL is now on a ward with 'several' suspect SF cases. Obviously I don't want the DC's to visit. DH thinks I am being totally unreasonable. Am I?? I couldn't bear them to catch it especially DS with his wheezy chest. I know these cases of SF are in private side wards but still. Even the nurses on the ward have advised against children going on the ward but, DH is adamant that the DC's should visit as she is going down hill fast and may not have as long as we think.

On a positive note my Nan has been told she doesn't need anymore chemo. Hooray! She has to have some Radiotherapy, and then she should be better.

We have friends coming round tonight, DC's are off to my mums for the night and i intend to consume copius amounts of cheerfulness!!

hmmm daisy it is a tricky one. I can see where your DH is coming from....is there anyway you can take them but minimise the risk?? E.g. keep DS in pushchair for most of the time? I can see why your DH wants you to risk it, but equally I can see why you wouldn't. I would probably agree to it but then I don't have the worry of DC who has been ill like your DS.
hurray for your nan!
Also ladyt excellent news on your articles!

Daisy (if it were me) I wouldn't take the dc's there. I bet your mil wouldn't want that either.
I think your dh would understand at some point but of course he is upset and isn't thinking clearly at the moment.
Great news that things are looking up. Enjoy the cheerfulness. Boy do you deserve it!

Gosh Daisy this all just gets harder and harder. I think maybe the nurses are erring on the side of caution. Generally airborne infectious patients are nursed in such a way as to prevent the infection leaving the room. However, I think if it was me I would be concerned. Is it possible for DH to visit without you. I have to say more than the infection risk I'm not sure if it is fair on the kids to see their nan like this. Very sadly these could be their last memories of her of they see her. Maybe ask your FIL what he thinks she would want. If you are really sure you don't want them to go you need the staff qualify what the risk is and also if the LO's could pose a risk of transfering an infection of any sort to your MIL? Your DH might listen to that evidence. Like SL I can see it from his side time to be even more diplomatic than you are already trying to be. Oh stuff diploma for now though, get necking that cheerfulness love!

Lady you are cheeky, was his acting ok then? I'm just a bit of a sad old Shakespeare buff and the whole Rosancrantz gulidenstern characters were undiscernable from each other hence funny to me but actually prob not that funny really. Is that the one that was on the BBC with David Tennant? Have been meaning to watch it on iplayer.

Daisy - having spoken to a couple of doctors involved in the field recently (one virologist working on the vaccines and one respiratory doc treating patients with swine flu) I don't think I would take the risk. I have to say, the virologist's insistence on getting his DCs vaccinated asap was a little bit scary. If they catch it, apparently SF can hit under fives very hard and if your DS already had chest problems, its not a risk you'd take lightly. I can totally understand your DH wanting to see their nan, but actually its probably more his need than anything else - not sure its something the children or your MIL need right now.

LadyT - hurray for paid work!

Have a fabulous new year all. We're having some friends who live a couple of doors down sleep over with their children who are about the same age as our two. Not too sure how much sleeping the toddlers with do...

Lady, great news on the travel pieces! Hope you had a lovely dinner at the cricketers and bet you have a fantastic NYE celebration in London! I'll be not drinking and watching the celebs on the tv Hope to catch up in the new Year!
Invis ds and I are both booked in to get our SF vaccination next week. As terrified as I am about needles I'm glad we are having it.

Girls, it's all frantic here as both DD2 and DS been up all night being sick, we have outlaws arriving in 2 hours and the cupboard is bare...... but I just wanted to pop on to wish everyone a very happy day and all the best for 2010. Look forward to more tales of our lovely children and the new babies of course.

Special love and positive thoughts for Daisy and your family. Thinking of you all.

Right, Sainsbury's.