Dec 08 babies are nearly one - PARTY TIME!

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As I accidentally filled up the old thread I thought I'd better start a new one

Belated Happy Christmas everyone! And thank you to my Secret Santa who gave DD a gorgeous soft snuggly blanket which has already come in useful for cold wintery walks. So sweet!

We are having a lovely time at the in-laws, DD is apparently having some kind of Christmas growth spurt and stuffing herself silly (particularly on Christmas pudding, she stuffed a huge amount of rather boozy one in her yesterday, she's probably got a hangover today, oops, bad mother.. The separation anxiety has become a bit major though, she howls virtually every time I leave the room, even if I just go to the loo. Or even the other end of the room. And she's starting nursery in a week. Oh god...
She's also now refusing to go back into her cot after her night feed (and who'd have thought she'd still want/need that at over a year ). Now wants to sleep on/with me. Which is quite sweet as she used to refuse to co-sleep but I don't really want it to become a habit as I find it hard to sleep with her snoring next to me.

Beans DH would love to do another triathlon (we both used to do them) or some other endurance event but he knows better than to ask! I personally think it's FAR too much to do an ironman with a tiny baby - too much for you and TBH too much for him too, surely he's not exactly going to be getting loads of sleep??

Kayzr Can I add my DD to that list? As I am a latecomer to the thread! She was born 19/12 (due 30/12) Lily Sarah, 6 lb exactly

Merry Christmas everyone, I hope you?ve all had a lovely time? The house is peaceful for the first time in what seems like years ? DD is napping, DH is working, my family have just departed. I could make an effort to tidy up, but thought I?d enjoy the quiet and catch up with everyone.

We?ve had a lovely few days, with DD?s birthday on Tuesday and then Christmas. The mountain of toys and wrapping paper is mammoth ? she is one spoilt little girl. And next week she?s going to wonder where her next batch of presents are coming from, she?s starting to get used to this!

Happy birthdays to babies Invisible, Indith, Bisou, Summer, WG and baby Kimberley for today, who have all turned one since I last posted. And baby Kiwi who I missed earlier.

Firstly, a great big congratulations to Rubena, such fab news. Has anyone given you knowing glances when you?ve refused a drink yet? Its so exciting to hear pregnancy news (and Beans? scan news too) ? I?m a little envious, as its so special to be pregnant and I miss it hugely ... but not ready to be there again myself for a while yet.

Hurrah for P?s tooth, Trace. Is she using it well on her Christmas food? We don?t have much in the way of babbling either, plenty of noise just no distinct sounds yet. I am very impressed with all babyT's words

My DD always does the crying when I pick her up from nursery Kiwi, and has always done it when I?ve left her with someone for however short a period. I am a mean Mummy as I?ve always found it slightly amusing that she is trying to tell me that she was being tortured in my absence when I know full well it?s just a big fib and I heard her giggling away just a minute before. And DD is being super clingy too at the moment, which DH is finding a bit hard as she was always a Daddy?s girl. I hope it is a phase, I?m sure it is. I couldn?t cope with a 15 year old hanging round my neck while I?m trying to cook tea!

Daisy I hope you all got to visit your MIL on Christmas day? I remember my Gran being in hospital one Christmas when I was young and the whole family made a big effort to get to see her and spend time with her ? and I think it was her best Christmas because of it, as other years everyone is always dashing around trying fit everyone in. And it is a Christmas I always remember too, rather than them all blurring into one, IYSWIM, so I hope you and your family all have similar fond memories from this one. Your poor hand, I cringed a bit reading that, I am so squeamish, I would definitely have fainted if I?d been you

Jolly, did you get to your parents for Christmas? I hope your Dad managed the cooking ok

WG I am a little embarrassed to tell you our morning milk routine, as I?m sure it is terrible parenting and likely to give DD an awful disease. But she has very little milk at bedtime, so we leave the cup in her room and let her sip at the room temperature milk in the morning before bringing her down for breakfast

SL I found the stabbing in the eyes quite amusing. I used to work with someone who once told our boss to go and boil his head, so I use that one and then worry that someone might have just taken me literally!

Invisible I had Dear Zoo as a child, and loved it. I will have to get DD a copy as she is a book monster (MIL?s genes there ? who is a librarian and brings us all the new children?s books before other children get their sticky fingers on them)

A big thank you to my secret santa ? I am saving my basket of goodies for a night when DH is away so I can cosy up and indulge, what a treat to look forward to.

I had DD weighed and measured on her birthday, I?ve not been to see the HV for 3 months and was a bit shocked that she?s only put on 15oz in that time ? although she is a lot more mobile these days. She?s only 16lb 15oz ? the HV didn?t seem too concerned, but to me that is tiny. Kiwi your DD is also a petite girl, isn?t she? How big is she these days? Anyone else with a petite baby? I just want to know I'm not the only dainty one out there!

We?ve have had some awful nights for the last week ? I?m sure DD has a tooth on the way. She?s going to bed fine and then waking about 11 and screaming blue murder til about 2 and then waking again at about 4. We?ve been playing musical beds trying to find somewhere, anywhere she?ll settle and co-sleeping seems to be the best for her. However not for DH and I ? we didn?t co-sleep when she was little and we just can't do it, we both lie there wide awake so have had even less sleep than the little one. Her mouth must be very sore as she won?t tolerate anything in there (I keep trying to poke a finger in to see if I can feel that tooth), bonjela or the toothbrush is a big no no, she?s not eating much either. Oh, and her breath stinks at the moment, it is horrific, so we really need to get a toothbrush in there as she is not pleasant to cuddle. I hope that tooth pops out soon, I want my happy little thing back. I can?t believe she?s still asleep and allowed me to write such an epic post ? but she does need so I will let her.

While I have time to post (oh no, please stop ZJ and go and empty the washer or something), I am going to share a TMI with you ? as its not something I can really drop into everyday conversation, but I hope the basket doesn?t mind? I finally plucked up the courage to have my overdue smear a couple of weeks ago, they always take a lot of effort getting the sample and I often need to go back for a repeat until they can get enough cells to test. Anyway, this nurse was more thorough than previous ones and determined to get it first time and had to go off to get a super strength fanjo opener (the technical term) to get to my cervix. And when she got there, it turns out it isn?t where it is supposed to be! Cervixes (cervi?) should be nicely at the top of your vagina, but apparently mine is more like an umbrella handle and off at a very strange angle!! Apparently it can make conceiving and giving birth very hard ? so I?m very proud of myself for doing both. (OK so this isn?t a patch on Daisy and her 2 cervixes, but still, I?m strangely fascinated!) And on that note, I?ll sign off for now. Lots of love to you all xx

Evening ladies I wrote a post earlier but my itouch ran out of battery and when it does that it loses the post. So I'll try to remember what I wrote.

I've been pottering a bit today, the boys and I have a little lurgy nothing too serious just wet coughs and tired so we stayed in again today, got some more sorting done and the livingroom is starting to look less like a storage area and more like...well a livingroom. Also did some scrubbing in the downstairs bedrooms. The walls and window frames were quite dirty esp the window frames, quite mildewy in fact so scrubbed them and then wiped down them with hot water and eucalyptus oil so they smell a bit fresher now.

Kiwi, DS1 still had a late night feed in fact several if he is teething. You will get people saying what they should and shouldn't be doing ad far feeding (and everyhing) goes but basically our rule is if it everyone is happy with it just do it. That goes for where we all sleep too. DS2 sleeps with us and probably wil do for a while yet as it will save us having to get another bed yet. Holding out to get a bunk bed for the both of them. I guess I have the luxury of hindsite but I didn't with DS1. If I could go back to myself at DS1 as a one year old I would say just chill and do what feels right. He'll stop feeding/sleep on his own eventually.

Gotta go serve dinner oh and well done on the concieving birthing against the odds ZJ.

Gosh just reread my post, DS1 doesn't still have a night feed DS2 does. DS1 stopped his last bedtime feed just before he was 2. He is very sweet about DS2 feeding and sometimes when I sit down to feed DS2 he sits down pulls up his shirt and feeds his donkey!

Happy Christmas and thanks v much to my SS, the book is lovely and T is beside himself with joy with the sheer number of doors to open. .

Another vote for Dear Zoo here. Though T couldn't make the noises last night as he has lost his voice! He's got a stonking cold and a rotten throat so he sounds like he has a 60 a day habit!

Though I shouldn't make light - my sis's little four week old is in hospital with bronchiolitis, she can't feed cod she's so stuffed up and they're generally having a rubbish Christmas. .

Daisy, that is about your hand, how is it feeling now?

hello! Merry Christmas everyone! And happy birthday to the new 1 year olds
I refuse to call P a toddler until she can toddle - for now she's still a baby
beans I am a soppy old goat at the moment and I'm not pregnant! Adverts, songs, comments (by anyone, about anything!)...
daisy how was Christmas day? And how is your hand - I hope you've managed to get it checked.
Thanks to my Secret Santa - I got some LUSH milk and cookies bath stuff and I can't wait to go and spoil myself
We've done a bit of travelling between various family members over the past few days which has been tiring but lovely so see them all (well lovely-ish!). L has been pretty hard work and not-so-pleasant on the whole but we've had a lazy day at home today and she's been delightful. In fact we were watching the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe earlier, and at the beginning, where the children are put on the train, L didn't know what was happening, so I explained about them having to go and stay somewhere safe while the war was happening, and even though it made the mummy and the children very sad, it was the best thing to do so that they would be safe. Anyway L said "It's good I wasn't born then because I love you too much to leave you"
P now has 2 teeth! Both top front ones - she looks so funny! She's been a bit grumpy on and off but not by BabyAub standards. Having not fed her at night for a few weeks before Christmas I have now fed her for the last few nights - being in other people's houses I just fed her the moment she woke so that she didn't wake everyone else up - so now we I need to try my gentle sleep training again...
Anyway I must go, DH and I have some crappy Christmas TV to catch up on
Take care xxx

sorry spot missed you post there. Hope your little niece gets better soon. And MrT with his poor cold. P has lost her voice too! She just makes a tiny squeaky noise and sounds really cute!

Just adding Kiwi's DD to our list. Will be back later when I don't feel so rough.

14/11/08 - MrsMattie - Baby Girl "Bella", 7lb, C/S (due 28/11)
18/11/08 - DonnyLass - Baby Boy, (due 03/12)
19/11/08 - Flumpybumpy - Baby Girl "Niamh Lily", 6lb 13oz, C/S (due 02/12)
20/11/08 - pixsix - Baby Boy, (due 01/12)
24/11/08 - daisydora - Baby Boy "Harry", 8lb 8oz (due 03/12)
24/11/08 - Amy123 Baby Boy "Robbie Lewis", 7lb 13.5oz (due 3/12)
25/11/08 - Verso - Baby Girl "Frieda Harriet", 8lbs 13oz, C/S (due 04/12)
25/11/08 - LadyThompson - Baby Girl "Octavia Poppy Alice", 6lb 12oz, C/S (due 03/12)
28/11/08 - theyoungvisiter - Baby Boy, 7lb 2oz, HB (due 09/12)
29/11/08 - lal07 - Baby Girl "Nancy Elizabeth", 6lb 11oz (due 08/12)
01/12/08 - ChutneyMary - Baby Boy "Matthew", 8lb 6oz, C/S (due 10/12)
01/12/08 - jumpjockey - Baby Girl "Sarah Kirstin", 7lb 3oz, HB (due 08/12)
03/12/08 - mibbes - Baby Boy "Evan", 6lb 5oz, EmC/S (due 06/12)
03/12/08 - katie3677 - Baby Girl "Liliana (Lily) Alice Grace", 11lb 2oz, C/S (due 14/12)
04/12/08 - feb - Baby Boy "Thomas George", 6lb 11oz (due 28/12)
05/12/08 - penny99 - Baby Boy "Xavier Jake" (due 3/12)
05/12/08 - Alliebongo - Baby Boy, 7lb 11oz (due 12/12)
05/12/08 - modernlove - Baby Boy, 7lb 6oz (due 03/12)
06/12/08 - poisondwarf - Baby Girl "Nina Camille", 6lb 15oz (due 08/12)
06/12/08 - Beans33 - Baby Girl "Isabella Sarah", 6lb 13oz (due 07/12)
07/12/08 - snorris - Baby Girl "Lucy Grace", 10lb (due 18/12)
10/12/08 - rosmerta - Baby Boy "Sean James" 9lb 7oz (due 02/12)
10/12/08 - Kmp1 - Baby Boy "Benjamin", 7lb 12oz, C/S (due 17/12)
11/12/08 - traceface - Baby Girl "Phoebe Martha", 7lb 3oz (due 13/12)
11/12/08 - babblington - Baby Boy, 6lb 16oz (due 29/12)
11/12/08 - hiccymapops - Baby Boy "Luke Stephen Edward", 8lb 9oz (due 07/12)
12/12/08 - kayzisexpecting - Baby Boy "Dylan George", 10lb 5oz, HB (due 12/12)
13/12/08 - Veggiemummy - Baby Boy "Jordan Leong An", 8lb 1oz HB (due 15/12)
13/12/08 - kutilputil - Baby Boy "Daniyal", (due 13/12)
14/12/08 - GettingBiggerBird - Baby Twins "Hope Elizabeth" 7lb & "Victor George" 7lb 11oz (due 25/12)
14/12/08 - Nolda - Baby Boy "Edwin ('Eddie') George", 9lb 15oz (due 05/12)
15/12/08 - Jollybear - Baby Girl "Lucy", 6lb 13oz, C/S (due 26/12)
15/12/08 - hotmama - Baby Boy "Harry", 7lb 0.5oz, C/S (due 21/12)
15/12/08 - PinguRocks - Baby Girl "Matilda", 5lb 14oz (due 25/12)
16/12/08 - OrangeCrush - Baby Boy "Samuel Joseph", 7lb 3oz (due 07/12)
16/12/08 - abbymeg - Baby Boy "Max Walker", 10lb 9oz, C/S (due 21/12)
17/12/08 - JamInMyWellies - Baby Boy "Lachlan", 9.5lb (due 09/12)
17/12/08 - CatDean - Baby Boy "Thomas", 7lb 8oz, HB (due 27/12)
18/12/08 - artichokes - Baby Girl "Nina Rose", 10lb 2oz (due 10/12)
18/12/08 - Twiga - Baby Girl "Miriam Faith", 9lb 3oz, C/S (due 26/12)
19/12/08 - majormoo - Baby Boy "Jesse", 8lb 6oz (due 06/12)
19/12/08 - KiwiPanda (due 30/12) Lily Sarah, 6 lb exactly
20/12/08 - TheInvisibleHand - Baby Boy, (due 31/12)
22/12/08 - zoejeanne - Baby Girl "Eloise Frances", 6lb 7oz (due 24/12)
23/12/08 - Indith - Baby Girl, "Margaret ('Daisy')" 9lb 4oz, HB (due 20/12)
24/12/08 - reban - Baby Girl "Joscelyn Elizabeth", (due 20/12)
24/12/08 - DisenchantedPlusBump - Baby Girl "Aurora", 8lbs 5oz, HB (due 25/12)
24/12/08 - Lowrib - Baby Boy "due 25/12
25/12/08 - Bisou - Baby Boy "Joshua William", 9lb 12oz, EmC/S (due 12/12)
25/12/08 - SummerLightning - Baby Boy "Edmund William", 6lb 10oz, EmC/S (due 18/12)
25/12/08 - waitinggirl - Baby Girl "Rosanna ('Rosie') Annelie", 7lb 6oz, EmC/S (due 21/12)
26/12/08 - hattyyellow - Baby Girl "Ursula Isabel", 8lb 5oz (due 22/12)
27/12/08 - Kimberly1979 - Baby Boy "Judah Michael", EmC/S (due 29/12)
27/12/08 - simmo14 - Baby Girl "Samantha Jo Alana" (due 27/12)
28/12/08 - march29 - Baby Girl, 6lb 1oz, (due 31/12)
29/12/08 - IceCube - Baby Boy "Thomas", 9lb 2oz (due 18/12)
30/12/08 - Turniphead1 - Baby Girl "Liaden Joy", 8lb 14oz (due 24/12)
01/01/09 - EffiePerine - Baby Boy "Maximilian", (due 30/12)
01/01/09 - emmanbump - Baby Girl "Amber", 6lb 6oz (due 29/12)
02/01/09 - Olipop - Baby Girl "Heidi Francis Jacqueline", 7lb 5oz, HB (due 27/12)

We had 3 babies this time last year.

sorry to be a grump. today is my birthday. my dad told me there wasn't much of a present. it was a card - normally there is a cheque in it for me, which is just great, so i can go shopping and buy myself something. today's card said "go and buy rosie's next stage car seat and put it on my credit card". now, am i being unreasonable to feel really crap about that? have been sobbing all morning. i think i'm also overtired as madam has woken up at 5am for the past 5 mornings and it is becoming v hard.

Morning all Just wanted to say WG Happy Birthday! Sorry you've had a bit of a let down there. Could you use your dad's card to get yourself a present for the same amount as a car seat, then get the car seat yourself? Seems onlyfair frankly! Early mornings - yuck. Can you bring her into bed with you to try and get her back to sleep?

will write morewhen the keyboard is working better, at te mo it misses random lettes ndgoing back to fil in is driving me rounth bend... nyone with anycompuery knwledge kno what the problem might be? It's not the same leters evry time, someim he space doesnt work either Grrrr!

ps i don't want to sound ungrateful, but i just wanted something personal for me. if mum were alive, she'd never have let him do it. it's funny, you have a child and suddenly you become invisible.

WG Happy birthday lovely! You are right to feel a bit sad about what your Dad wrote in your card. I'd feel really put out if it was me. Also I'm certain the early starts and lack of sleep makes everything seem bad. I do hope you have a lovely day despite this mornings set back.

veggie thanks for the advice re: my hand. Yes my mum is a nurse, well MW but was a general nurse for several years. She has cleaned it and as yet I haven't gone to see the Nurse for her to look at it, but I have checked my Tetanus and that is upo to date. TBH it appears to be healing quite nicely. The knife was clean, I was using it to seperate some 'Aunt Bessie's Yorkshire Puds' for DD. I wouldn't normally put them on the Xmas dinner but DD is such a fussy eater and she does love them!! Don't ask why I picked the knife that has recently been shrpened

I am already partied out, need a lie in but I have my sister and nephews coming later!!!

Happy Birthday WG! Sorry you are so tired and low. Can you think of your dad's present this way: a 2nd stage seat is £100ish and you would have had to buy one. So he has essentially given you £100 to spend on yourself. I am sure he would be devastated if he knew his present upset you. Like many men he has let practicalities rule over sensitivities. I hope your DH has done better.

LadyT - gutted I missed Hamlet. Who was S playing? DH's gran campaigned to watch it but we overruled her as there were 7 under 10s in the house all of whom would have been bored to death. I am sure you will look gorgeous for the wedding, don't fret about that.

We are off to Devon on Wednesday so I am contemplating taking down the tree and decis tomorrow. Is that really scroogish? Our house is overrun with decos and pine needles and piles of new toys. I literally can hardly see the floor. We have friends coming for dinner tonight and I spool want to tidy. I am itching to pack the tree away now and have a nice tidy house but DH thinks we should leave it up for the full 12 days of Christmas and pack it away when we get back on the 4th. aaarrgghh.

WG, just wanted to say Happy Birthday and sorry you're feeling so crap about the present, I would do exactly the same in your shoes. Is there any way you could mention it to your dad? Or would that just make it worse?

Glad your hand's healing well, Daisy, good luck with the nephew and niece this afternoon.

Have a lovely time in Devon, Aubs. We're off to Preston tomorrow to see the ILs. Will be lovely to see them but am dreading the lack of sleep that accompanies travelling with T anywhere.

Hello all.
Aub I am with you on taking down the Christmas decorations. I get an urge every year to take them down around the 27th and it really bothers me to have them up still in the new year. I always feel that after Christmas day is over, it's kind of a little depressing so I want to move on however dh mumbled something about the 12 days of Christmas yada yada yada so I have left them [rollseyes]

WG happy birthday, and sorry about the gift situation. I'd do what they are all suggesting and possibly even explain it to him - however he doesn't really have to know. I'm sure he didn't realise at the time. We've got to buy the next stage car seat very soon too.

Glad the hand is on the mend daisy

I bought a really nice solid dining table last night - so excited. Can't afford the chairs yet but it seats 10 so I'm insisting on Christmas next year at my house or maybe that's not so smart
Better go - there's a really big nappy calling [yuk]

Just popping in to bookmark will chat later oh and happy birthday WG!

Oh WG I completely understand why you feel crap, that is crap. I mean if he is going to get something for madam instead of you on your birthday at least make it something interesting! Like I don't know some rediculously expensive one off hand made dolls house. Anyway I have a plan, how much were you planning on spending on the car seat. Maxi cosi have one with the isofix (bloody cheeky buggers you can't use the 1st stage isofix for the 2nd stage you have to get a new one!) and it's a bit under £300 so get that, subtract the amount you were going to spend on a more reasonably priced one (we spent about £180) and spend the difference on chocolate and hard liquor, or clothes if your on a health kick. Better still just take his credit card shopping and stuff the carseat!

I know none of this gets the point accross but I'm not sure if you want to. Would it be worth talking to his lady friend.

Now I'm off to take down my MN name decoration, you ladies sound like you've had enough of tinsel and holly!

WG, sorry not time to chat but HAPPY BIRTHDAY DARLING and have this in the meantime. I don't think men mean to be so crass but they don't always engage their brains.

dear all - thank you for finding the time to make me feel better and putting it all into perspective - after a lovely day of seeing friends in the pub, i feel slightly ashamed i reacted so badly. but but but...

we are off to devon (aubs - whereabouts are you going?) tomorrow at crack of - we have a big group of friends who hire a big house and spend new years together. there will be 24 adults and 12 children in a massive sort of stately home. they were all there last year when we were ensconsed at home with madam. speaking of which, i found my diary of her sleeping/eating/pooing from teh first month or so the other day - gosh, she was tricky, and gosh we didn't know what the hell we were doing. we kept waking her up to feed her - did you do that? we were told to do that - i'm not sure i'd do that again - there was no problem with her feeding as such. it did remind me of the hell that was the first few weeks/months. and i want another one??? my bf in america rang yesterday to tell me she is pregnant again - she had her first 4 months before us, so it would be nice if we could conceive relatively soon to keep up, as it were. speaking of which, i've had some right old awful cramps lately, which feel just like period pain with referred shooting pains down my leg (which i get with really bad p pain), but no show of anything. did a test yesterday and nothing, so just waiting for it to come now. mind you, what with my completely irregular and long cycles, and the irregularity of us having sex these days, it might be a while.

i will check up as and when i can, but lots of love to you and a wonderful new year to all.

WG - other than a big happy birthday, don't have much to add to what's been said, I'd be annoyed too. Your Devon trip sounds like fun - have a fabulous time and a very happy new year!

Daisy - glad the hand is better. Hope you also got some rest.

Really looking forward to tomorrow - we have the unheard of luxury of having childcare while DH and I have the day off. The original plan had been a big walk somewhere, but the weather is looking dodgy, so it might be a gallery, nice lunch and a film matinee or some such which TBH is more my speed! Not sure exactly yet, but some proper time with DH is long overdue.

aubs & wg Enjoy DEvon and a Happy New Year. I am a bit of a scrooge over New Years, no doubt I will be in bed by 10pm. Even when I was younger it never really excited me.

veggie Can I ask a question you might be able to help with in your medical capacity? MIL is still in hospital, not sure exactly what is happening but they are saying that basically she has a water infection and she is on intravenous AB's. So far she has failed to respond to them, so she is on some others now (as far as I know she has no pain or discomfort from the infection). The problem is she is permenantly asleep, DH visited last night and she fell asllep (literally snoring) after 20 mins. FIL claims its the AB's that are causing her to be so weak and sleepy all the time but this seems weird to me - is it possible or more likely to be the cancer?

Hello jsut a quick one to say have a great trip WG! That sounds like such fun - it must be a massive house!! Good luck with the testing That sounds promising (period pain without period) as that's exactly what I had and perhaps the test is too early to pick it up yet! Yes I remember your feeding problems - hopefully the next one will be smooth sailing - eek I never woke ds up to feed him? Was I suppose to? He usually woke up himself and the longest was only a few hours I think but to be honest I can't really remember.... It's all a blur!

hi all.
daisy as far as I know antibiotics wouldn't cause such tiredness, so I would assume it was the cancer, but I must say I know almost NOTHING about cancer so someone else will have more to say I hope.
On the same sad subject, I found out yesterday that a friend and colleague of mine from my old job died on Christmas Eve. She'd had skin cancer years ago but had been fine for years, then found out only a few months ago that she she a tumour in her chest and 3 tumours in her brain. Anyway she died on Thursday peacefully and pain free, and leaves behind a husband and 2 sons. .
Was going to write more but P has woken. Back later.

Trace, that is so sad about your friend. Hope her DH and sons are as OK as they can be in the tragic cicumstances.

Daisy, I don't know anything about ABs or cancer really, but am thinking of you and sending love. Hope Veg is along soon.

Had a text from Verso today and hope we are going to meet up! Must sort out a London evening meet for us all for Jan and also the fatties thread. Not tonight though, as still in holiday mode.

WG, sounds ominous. Test, test! I have had my first period today for 3 and a half years, with 2 babies in the meantime. Feel a bit gutted actually as it's periods al the way for me now til the menopause as there will be no more babies. I'd so love another one but am too old, fat and poor. I just adore my 3 so much and they are growing up so fast.

We had a big family lunch yesterday o I did some facial grouting to greet everyone. My DD1 brought me a huge sparkly necklace and said "wear this, mummy, so you will look beautiful." I asked if I would look beautiful anyway without it and she said no! That'll teach me to go a fishing! My family doe not age well. When he first met my sister, DH asked me (after she'd left) why there was such a big age gap between us. I asked how much he thought there was and he said 15 years! SHe is 43 (and was only 35 when they first met and he put her late forties!!) Ouch! That'll be me in 3 years.

Right, wine o'clock beckons. Love to you all.

Hello everyone.

I am not having a good day. I have a migraine that has lasted 2 days, the oven broke at work so I have had nothing to do all day and the ruddy HV came into the shop and moaned at me in front of customers. Number 1: D hasn't been weighed in ages, I don't see the point really as he is happy and healthy. 2: She heard my MW from having D talking about me to a student that is working with her. She was just telling her about how I had D at home and he was a big baby etc and that I would like another baby at home etc etc. Well the HV says I can't have another homebirth and I should be thinking of the safety of my baby. The bloody fucking woman needs to mind her own business and leave me alone. I am going to ask if I can change HV as I am getting pissing sick of this. She was complaining to DH about it a few weeks ago.