One small step for Baby, one large step (or mad dash to prevent disaster) for Mumkind

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Hi, Welcome to the new thread, the one where we can't drink a cup of tea in peace (there you go, we could have used that for a title!!)

I was in bodyshop yesterday and M trashed the place. Luckily the sales assistant thought she was sweet as she pulled things off displays and legged it out the shop with jars of body butter (several times)!!, cue me legging it after her with a handful of makeup . Luckily there were no store detectives aroud. She also tried to wear every shoe within her reach at the shoe shop.

sorry. accidentally posted on wrong thread.

Contratulations PONYMUM!!!!! That is tooooo exciting!
One of my friends who took three years to conceive her dd is expecting her second in June too, it must be the month for it!

jenpet good to have you back, so sorry you've had a rubbish summer

DG your sis was amazing as always, I'm absolutely loving the backstage information you share, gives such great insight into what's going on. I'm thinking that with KR gone, and the twins won't last long, Louis will then focus all his attention on Miss Frank and hopefully he'll continue to bring out the very best in them. I thought Simon was outrageous referring to 'the bookends' although its true that DigiSis is waaaaaay the best (at least that's how its been put across in the media, and I am of course in no way biased ). I hope they continue to gel as a group and really grow. My friends are loving that we 'know' someone and are really rooting for one act over the others, they're all on board!

Congrats ponymum {smile] Very happy for you!

Hope everyone is well...we are ok. Toby is now tearing around EVERYWHERE He is great and his big ds is doing really well in year 2 so far.

Love to all x

book marking.

Ponymum that is amazing news and now I am so broody!!!

DG MF were fab - can't believe those 2 man-child idiots still in and Kandy Rain should have dressed differently.

Hello IOM - I haven't seen you around for ages. I hope you're all well

After the initial success of ds waking up at 7am, he had reverted to waking at 5.30 again . So sleeping regime number 2 starts here today.

I am totally cutting out the morning sleep and

M has had a 1-2 hour morning nap every day since he was 6 wo, so I'm guessing it's going to be a tough few days.

To try and take his mind off being tired we went to the supermarket this morning. We got there a few minutes early and were waiting for the doors to open I held sleep off until 11.15am, but I just had to take him up to his cot because he started to lay down on the living room floor!

God I hope this works! If not I'm stuck for ideas. Anybody else have an early waker?

ILTQITI ds2 has recently been waking up at 5.50am. DH was getting him up then and then sometimes he'd have a wee doze on him downstairs. But this morning we left him and he dozed on and off until 6.40. I'm hoping when we move and he's in his own room that if he does that we won't even hear him. Of course what's more likely is that he'll just be louder as will be trying to get our attention.
He doesn't usually have a morning nap but has at least 2 hours in the aft.

DS1 fluctuates quite a lot with his waking time and always has. He does a couple of weeks of waking at say 6.15 then changes to 7.30 for a few weeks then changes again.

The woman who lives next door to the house we're buying came and spoke to me at toddler group this morning. She'd seen us go in to the house last week and recognised me so came to say hi. Seems lovely and has at least 2 small kids about the same age as mine. Oh I really hope nothing goes wrong with this sale.

debi fingers crossed for house sale

ILTQITI i've been lurking and on facebook but only grabbing minutes here and there - kept meaning to post but by the time I'd caught up with thread, I had to leave the pc.
We're lucky that C is not a very early riser - 6.30 to 7am generally, though if she does wake very early we tend to ignore her mutterings unless she is upset. She occasionally wakes for a few mins about midnight sometimes and does cry but we now only go into her if the crying last for more than a few mins. Generally, she'll settle herself.
As to daytime naps - she is so close to dropping to one nap a day. Some mornings she will have one, some she won't and she won't normally sleep in her cot during the day - prefers the pushchair.
She has about 45 mins in the afternoon. If she does have 2 naps, it'll only be a total of 1 to 1.5 hrs a day.
We then have bath at 6.45 and bed by 7.30.

The one thing she won't take to is cows milk!
We're still on infant formula cos don't see the need to change to follow on as she has wide diet but she refuses to drink cows milk. She's a water fiend - drinks loads and nothing else - and has one bottle in the morning and one at night but won't enetrtain any cows milk at all - warm, cold, bottle or beaker = no!

Anyone else found that?

ILTQITI how do you feel about letting your ds have a short morning nap - wake him after 20mins say? Then he could have a longer nap in the afternoon, go to bed slightly later, and hopefully sleep in later in the morning? My ds has 20 mins somewhere between 9 and 9:45, and 2 hours between 1 and 3 and goes to bed for the night between 7 and 7:15.

debi I really hope and pray your house move goes quicker than ours! Our solicitor lied to me about posting a really important document last week, and they people still haven't received it - so she said she'd email the contents to them. Well why not do that a week ago?!!!! She's still talking about us completing in the last week of October, but the removals firm aren't sure they can fit us in now, and we don't think we can get everything arranged in time, and I have to find a hotel for my parents who are coming up to look after the kids. Seriously, how bad does a solicitor have to be for you to dock their pay?!

carrie & debi I can't even read the house moving posts without getting stressed! I think I have PTSD after I moved here 5 years ago. The sellers estate agents were a joke and I when I can afford to move from here I'm avoiding them like the plague.

DD bit me today . She seems to think it's a great game. I said "no' very sternly, put and down and ignored her for a minute, I hope she gets the message.

IOM DD isn't keen on cows milk either. We're still on formula. I did think I'd cracked it when I heated the cows milk up a little but DD seemed to be a bit burpy and sicky afterwards so maybe her tummy isn't ready for it yet. She's fine with other dairy products though.

Another early morning wake-up - gggaahhhh.

I'm going to do the 20 min nap thing in the morning and 2 hour nap lunchtime and see how we get on.

He was still knackered after waking up at silly o'clock so part of me thinks it's also a bit of habit creeping in now.

I will NOT be defeated!

You go girl ILTQSITI! Victory shall be yours!
Incidentally who are you supporting in strictly...? I have stronger feelings towards those I'd like to see leave (Craig and Flavia) rather than outright favourites at the moment as there are too many fab couples. Probably Brian and Ali would get my vote...but then there's the Rickys...

how do you have the time to keep up with strictly and xfactor?
In the past I have watched strictly more than xfactor but obviously can't dothat this year and so haven't seen any strictly at all.

Why do solicitors take hours to phone you back when you need to speak to them? grrr

OK a belated answer to the earlier questions about iodine. Sorry if I scared anyone, as it may be total quackery but here's what I read: There is a condition know as hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid). The symptoms are unusually long cycles, extended periods of fertile-type cervical fluid, and low basal temperature (first waking temp). It results in long, often infertile cycles.

I have/had all of those symptoms. There is some suggestion that iodine supplements may help correct it, which I tried by using iodised salt while away on holiday (I only heard of the condition just before hand so couldn't get to a doctor to find out more). By the time I got back from hols I was pregnant, so have now stopped worrying. If anyone else is worried I would see your GP.

Meglet C doesn't bite yet - except big toes! If DP or I are sitting with bare feet, she loves to crawl over and put our whole toe in her mouth and bite! She's damn quick too!

And we've tried heating the cows milk but she actually reverted back to newborn tongue reflex and pushed the bottle out with her tongue.

And we watch X Factor (& Merlin, Harry Hill, Hole in the Wall etc - loving Saturday night TV) by Sky + The only way to watch X Factor,IMO, as you can fast forward all the crap adverts and of course, Cheryl Cole's voice...

imoscarsmum i'm sure you've tried it, but what about 3/4 formula and the rest cows milk, gradually reducing the formula by a bit each time? (sorry for rubbish typing. its one handed due to hungry and tired Samuel being carried everywhere!)

Strictly - I don't tend to support any celeb in particular. I like both of the Ricky's and Ali is great to watch but needs some self confidence.

I sky+ Xfactor too. It's the only way to watch programmes that have adverts in!

Gawd I hope we don't have a 4am wake up call tomorrow. However dh has to be up and out by 5.45 in the morning, so even if M does sleep in dh will probably wake him

Jenpet - we adored our holiday in Normandy in August. We went to Versailles, Giverny and Chartres, and we can't wait to go again next year. I can see why you live in France

Pleased you enjoyed Normandy ILTQSITI did you find a suitable gite? (sorry if you've said this befoer & I missed it)- We're over in the UK again at half term & I'm looking forward to seeing family & doing "England-ey" things etc, but only as I know I can come back home again

T's sleep is fairly random, but he seems to be really good at getting what he needs (I very very rarely have a whingy tired baby). Most days he only naps for a maximum of 90 mins in total, usually more like 60, but some days (maybe once a week) he'll have a freakish 2 hour nap, all naps are in the pram, usually with me jiggling with one foot for most of it, or he wakes straight back up. His night time sleep is bloody brilliant (bed by 7.15 most nights, don't hear from him at all until at least 6:30 the next morning). The worst I have to endure is that about one night in five he'll wake at 5:30am, I'll give him a bottle and jiggle him in the pram and he'll sleep in that till 7:30. It means I'm up early, but at least I can stare vacantly at the computer rather than playing with a baby!

I find it amazing that T's sleep is so fine after being soooooo horrendous. He was still waking 2-4 hourly at 8 months, then suddenly just decided to sleep. I am formulating a theory that babies that cluster feed sleep a longer stretch at night - until 9 months T fed at roughly the same intervals around the clock (hourly as a newborn, then two hourly, then three hourly), whereas everyone I know that was trapped in front of the telly all evening seemed to get at least a four hour stretch fairly early on, then anything from 6 hours up by about 10 weeks.

Ponymum huge congratulations!

M woke at 6.45 this morning. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Yes we did find somwhere great to stay jenpet. We were in a village near L'Agile and Verneil (sp? there was a Centre Parcs there), which is why we were able to visit the places we did as they were all within 1.5 hours drive. We were totally gobsmacked by Versailles, it was AMAZING.

DIGI - your sister had defo made it. She is in this weeks Heat magazine and they say she is their fav in the group. Of course please understand the Heat wasn't mine ......... it was a friends copy .

What have you been up to hopefully, I haven't seen you round for a while

Oh, and meant to say watch out for diving babies.

M got out of his cot yesterday There was this bloody great thud followed by a huge wail. I shot up the stairs at 100 mph to find him laying splat on the floor.

He quickly stopped crying so I think he was more shocked than hurt.

He managed it with his grobag on as well Needless to say the cot has been lowered to its lowest height now.

DS is tall, but be aware and lower you cots now!

Blimey ILTQITI even my super climber baby hasn't done that yet!
I was going to ask you if M could be cold and that was why he was waking early. I thought that as I wondered if it was why my ds2 was waking early. He was still in a 1tog sleeping bag and I was complaining it was cold in our room but took about 3 days to twig that he might be cold. So last night he was in his new 2.5 tog sleeping bag. BUT he still woke early so it obviously wasn't that!

IOM I never drank Cow's milk and neither has DD1 (M loves it) I had slight eczema as a child and I believe that there was a reason I didn't like it. There are plenty of people who are dairy intolerent so personally I wouldn't push it. I think yoghurt etc are easier to digest.

M's most recent thing is spinning, she saw her cousin spinning at the weekend and decided to have a go. So she turns round on the spot and because we clap, she does too. It sooo sweet seeing hr getting all giddy turning and claping!!

Her sleeping is still broken, she's had a couple of nights in the last week where she's just been up once, but for the past few weeks it's usually been 3 times She has a cough now and a cold before that so I haven't been inclined to do anything about it but yesterday I felt so faint with tiredness that I think this weekend we need to do something. DH is on call during the week so net keen to help before then.

No he's not cold. He's got his winter tog on, a sleepsuit and a vest. He's been like that for about a month, because before we changed he was waking up because of the cold!

Ninja, getting up 3 times is harsh. Have you got a plan in your head about how you would like to approach it?

Meglet I get bit too. For a couple of weeks it was constantly and I had marks all over. It's when she's excited, tired, hungry or wants my attention

When she comes close with an open mouth I've ot into the habit of saying 'no biting, just kissing' and it seems to be making a difference....

Ds has been so chatty today, mostly just saying 'ooh' but in a really animated way. Now that he's moving we're telling him not to touch certain things (like the tv and stereo) and tonight he was sat there pointing at it, when dh said 'no', ds signed 'no' and said 'ooh' in a tone of voice that said 'gosh, thanks for telling me'. Its really cute! He's also taken to pointing to stuff and saying something that sounds a bit like 'there' and signing please.
I won't bore you with today's house update. We're all out of snacks