One small step for Baby, one large step (or mad dash to prevent disaster) for Mumkind

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Hi, Welcome to the new thread, the one where we can't drink a cup of tea in peace (there you go, we could have used that for a title!!)

I was in bodyshop yesterday and M trashed the place. Luckily the sales assistant thought she was sweet as she pulled things off displays and legged it out the shop with jars of body butter (several times)!!, cue me legging it after her with a handful of makeup . Luckily there were no store detectives aroud. She also tried to wear every shoe within her reach at the shoe shop.

starlight- buy a bread maker- much easier!

Welcome back eandz

Well done Becaroo's ds

Hello people!
SOrry to hear about the tough times lots of you are having.
We're OK - after posting about A's screaming fits, the next night he decided that a bottle of milk before bed was much more exciting than boring old bf, and now is uncontrollably excited when he sees it being prepared, so we watch the microwave countdown together! And slept really well for about 4 nights. Until getting a horrible cold, but even then last night we finally got him to sleep at 10pm and he only woke at 6, and then zonked out again til 10am! And is now happy and playing. So I've successfully quit bf. Now to stop eating all that extra cake...

Hi guys
So glad all went well star you must feel a whole lot better now.
Oh my Gosh Baby E put a fruit shot top in his mouth the other days, its so frightening. However, its a shame the putting items in his mouth has co-incided with my 5 year olds love for marbels, kinder toys lego etc. Bloody nightmare!
I have a kenwood breadmaker and I love ginger cake in it.
Welcome back eandz its nice for all of us to be together again. I kind of kept a bit in touch via facebook updates. Espesially the x factor updates. Your sister is fab A.
Oh whats ponymums news???? I cant find it

iliketomoveitmovieit

you always know how to cheer me up. sadly i know too many people cheating on their spouses at the moment.

As far as N is concerned-- he's on liquid meds that he only takes if we give it to him with a jar of apple sauce in view (because he gets rewarded with applesauce for taking it). He refuses all vegetables, solid fruit and pasta.

He eats rice but only if it's got teriyaki sauce on it. He also loves chicken wings from pizzahut but refuses most all other forms of chicken. (I've been trying to make chicken wings at home, but he won't go near them unless I put them in a pizzahut box, and still after opening the box he won't touch them. Also, he'll eat pringles. A whole can if you let him. the sour cream and onion flavor wont go near any other colored cans of pringles.

unfortunately, he's heard me complain about him and how slow he's developing and i can see he understands-- so he does try really hard. (is this in my head? or can they really pick up on this stuff?)

so i think that Noah and I have some major food issues and I'm at fault because I didn't learn to read cookbooks earlier. I also have a feeling that I need to establish a better feeding pattern so he'll start eating a variety of food, or at least trying it.

I am going away with Dh this sat for one night. I certainly have not got a perfect baby and am caught in the bf to sleep trap. Luckily my mum is babysitting all night but i know she is going to have a tough one as he wont settle properly without me. OOOPS! I have never left him overnight, but neeeeed a break. Am I being mean???

starlight
how do you get stuff out of babystarlights mouth? N won't open his mouth even if i've got a crowbar.

debithescot becaroo mamamufin i've been keeping an eye on you guys over fb too...actually most of you are on my fb.

Becaroo do not feel like a useless mummy. In that case, I am a useless mummy too. DD1 used to be in her bed till dd2 was born and she had the broken leg. It was easier to look after her if we co-slept as dh went to the Middle East and it is now nearly 14 months later and she is still in my bed. I cannot be arsed to get her out. As you know, I choose to cosleep with dd2 as for me she is still a baby. I have lots of early nights and sometimes I get up for a couple of hours to have some quiet time on my own.

You may wonder where that leaves dh. When he is home, sometimes he joins us 3 in the 'big bed' and sometimes he doesn't. We are doing what gives everyone the best night's sleep. Sometimes we all start out in the same bed and half way through I would migrate to the spare room with dd2 leaving him with dd1.

Oh, sometimes when I am down with dh in the living room at night and dd2 wakes, I just bring her downstairs and let her keep sleeping cuddled up with me on the sofa and take her up when we go to bed. He is working away all week so co sleeping makes night parenting a doddle. It has to be otherwise having a full time job as well would kill me. My house still looks like a midden though but I was never the world's most ardent cleaner.

Don't sweat it. It won't maim your kids emotionally and I suspect you and dh are big enough people to accept some temporary change in your 'adult life' till your kids are through this stage. It won't be long before they will look out their bedroom doors, sneer at you and dh and shut it again and you will be wondering 'what was that all about?'

Coming from a different culture is what makes me feel confident in doing and saying these things. I am lucky to have the view of an outsider looking in otherwise I could be the biggest neurotic about child rearing.

Good luck you are a great mummy.

EandZ - dd1 is also allergic to egg and milk. feeding her in the 2nd year was a bastard. Have you discovered Readybrek made with soymilk yet? (try to make it unsweetened soymilk.)

Foxy never heard of readybrek. will look it up now.

Star that sounds a bit like putting a bit in a horses mouth.
The second bit obvs, not the first, Horses weigh a bit too much to pop over your knee

Why is it Now Robyn is better? she has fallen back to her old ways and will not sleep? She was up every 2 hours again last night and I had to feed her to sleep each time. She ended up with us all night feeding, sleeping then screaming. She is now playing hide and seek with Daddy instead of napping(the car stopped so she woke up)

eandz I know it's driving you mad but some of those things about N made me smile. Like the Pizza Hut box. It shows he has a fun. cheeky personality and he's inteligent.

My ds2 isn't as fussy with food but won't eat potatoes and usually doesn't have the patience for rice or couscous. So what we do is we have pasta pretty much every other night as I know he'll eat lots of that. Then the in between nights we have something like potatos which means he doesn't eat as much of that meal. But I don't stress about it. As he eats enough other stuff throughout the day (although he doesn't eat bread either which is a pain) and sleeps fine I think that works for us. He's not being forced to eat something he doesn't like (or won't even try) but it is offered to him and one day he'll eat it.

BUT what you need to remember is that he is my 2nd child. DS1 went through a similar phase and I stressed out more with him. I don't know about everyone else but I think it's fair to say that mum's are more relaxed about things like food and sleep with number 2.

starlight I have a kenwood too and it's really good but we did have to replace the tin after about 4 years. My mum has a cheaper version from tesco but it's exactly the same and the kenwood tin fits in it which meant she could replace the tin easily when hers also leaked.

Foxy and becaroo Co sleeping rocks! I too am a major co- sleeper. Four in our bed but its superking. It works for our family. I love going to bed early and getting toasty with my boys. I have a tomy bedside guard on my side so e does not fall out. I understand that it might seem strange to some people but it works so well for us. Bring it on I say!!!!
oh chat soon ds back from school! xx

Hi everyone

foxy and mama Thanks for your posts on co-sleeping...It works for us in one sense in that both dc are happy and dh can sleep anywhere! I am the problem....I am a very light sleeper and am finding I am getting very disurbed nights because of this....but I will continue because it seems to be what my dc need at the moment. Woke up at 1.45am this morning with ds1 actually sitting on me!!!!! I asked him what he was doing and he just rolled of and went back to sleep!!! Little monkey! It would be great if he slept for longer though He is so tired by the end of the school day and fridays can be tough.

eandz I saw a panorama programme some years ago about food/feeding issues and children who ate very little/limited diet (like my ds1) It featured a consultant from Birmingham childrens hospital who is one of the only paediatric specialist feeding consultants in the UK and she was great I really wish I had seen the programme a year earlier because it really put my mind at ease. Basically she said that food is food....when children are young try not to think of "good" food and "bad" food, just remember that everything they eat has a calorific value and that even if they eat the same food every day for weeks/months on end, they are eating and that is what is important. I really stressed about ds1 as he eats NO veg and NO fruit and his diet was incredibly limited (to about 8 foods)...never has eaten fruit/veg despite all my attempts (growing our own stuff, bribing, crying, pleading etc etc) but now I just make sure he takes a multi vitamin with fish oil every day and dont sweat it. This year he has started eating tomato soup, pasta again (he stopped for some reason!) and fis fingers!!!! He also ate mashed potao the other day (normally it has be in the form of croquettes, waffles, oven chips etc)

I am sure that given time and when his medical problems ease, Noah will surprise you one day by suddenly trying loads of food he has never had before....until then try to remember that he is eating - hes not getting his 5 a day but then who of us can honestly say they get their 5 a day every day????? Not me for sure. I think you are doing an amazing job and whoever said that other mothers lie is spot on..dont believe a word if it!!! Some people need to belittle others to make themsleves feel good. Sad but true

ILTMIMI We are actually staying at windsor and going to Windsor Castle and Heathrow airport (dont ask!!!)

Ds1 came home from school today and is a sheperd in the xmas concert!!! Just got to dig out some old tea towels now....

Very excited as off to see "new moon" at the cinema tonight with my dbro (havent told him what its about...he will not be pleased!) Chortle....

Have a fab weekend ladies x

star Am very impressed at babystarlight getting that lot in her mouth!!!! I would have had a complete panic attack..you are so calm!!! Toby did fall against the sofa yesterday with a toy wooden spoon in his mouth - cue lots of crying and a bruised roof of his mouth Toby just puts EVERYTHING in his mouth...its very worrying. He picked up a dustbunny from under the sofa the other day and I just managed to hoick it out before he swalowed it!

Perhaps this is a sign I need to clean my floor more often?????

Ha ha ha! Your ds1 sounds very similar to mine becaroo poor sleeper, poor eater but a gorgeous monkey .
Eandz I second what bec says food is food so dont be too hard on yourself.If pizza hut chicken wings is all he eats then so be it. My ds1 eats No fruit or veg. It breaks my heart . He does not have the desire to eat and does not enjoy food.
IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT ds2 eats and eats everything and I have done nothing differently.
OW poor toby! that sound painful x

Yes, mama.....he is a monkey but I wouldnt change him for the world (well, maybe just to get him to sleep til 6.30am every day!!!)

DS also puts EVERYTHING in his mouth. He can spot a crumb on the carpet at a thousand paces

eandz - if Noah can eat the things you describe then you can rule out a physical problem - it's a case of he chooses not to eat certain things.

Do you want to establish a regular eating routine and offer different foods? Make a plan and put time aside to implement it.

There will be loads of help on here if that is want you want to do and if you need some ideas to get you started.

thank you all girls i love the support and information.

it's soo good to be back on this thread. My sister and her friend just went to go see New Moon too. Rob Pattison is sooooo hot. (and I feel incredibly dirty checking out such a young boy)...

so who has a BRIO walker and is it worth it?

mamamuffin it was me with the x factor sister! She's doing ok. Reall busy gigging.

becaroo I was waiting to see what the others would say about your co-sleeping. I know exacly how you feel about just wanting them sleep and feeling like a failure when they don't. We were in the middle of what felt like the hundredth attempt at cc but in reality was only the fourth. And we got as far as a week, where there was only deterioration not improvment in his sleeping. I had planned to give it two weeks but then had the mc and couldn't deal with that AND listening to my one and only child cry for three hours every night. So now we're co-sleeping. Took two weeks to break it when he was 8 weeks old. God knows how long it will take this time. But I'm beginning to think that maybe I should just accept that DS will be in our bed for the next few years and when he's old enough to understand he will spend more time in his own bed

But what do I know, I'll probably change my mind next month and spend two weeks listening to him cry for hours every night before realising (again) that ds cannot be sleep trained.

Oh and eandz lovely to see you back! Quite often I feed DS dinner in front of the TV [baaad mummy], but he's suitably distracted enough to just open his mouth when In the Night Garden is on. It's bad but sometimes (well most of the time) I can't deal with trying to keep him in his highchair for more than five minutes while he arches his back and climbs out and throws/spits food everywhere. Yet tv dinners go down without a fight. I know, we're supposed to socialise them into eating at the table. But I hate eating alone at the table so I can't really expect him to love it.

Oh no - this has dropped off my 'I'm on' threads.

I just can't seem to catch up with myself.

It was Grandma's funeral last Friday and what with all the sorting out my mum's house beforehand (it's like one of those TV programmes it's so full of clutter) and spending the weekend there. A vomiting bug going through the family and M seeming to be teething again (she's been up 4 or 5 times in the night) I'm just so tired.

Anyway, it's the weekend and DD1 is asleep so here I am.

Eandz just to reassure you that as a child (up 'til 18) I ate no veg except for raw carrots, and now I'm a vegetarian with a varied diet. It's really not worth getting too worried about (although I'd avoid the salty pringles). Have ou tried smoothiing fruit to make a drink? M eats lots of veg - well she puts them in her mouth then spits them out .

becaroo glad to hear about your ds1 - Dd (who's the same age) is still struggling with her literacy, but she does seem to be putting in finger spaces finally, so it's possible to make out some of what she writes. It's scary that it's SATS at the end of the year. Not that I ut any store by them, it's just the idea that they're ready to be tested

Star glad to hear the SWs are being more resonable...

M keeps trying to turn the computer off so I might have to post this before she manages - she's lost so much of my work sneaking up on me and pressing the off button