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Dec 08 - 9 months in, 9 months out!

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jumpjockey · 03/09/2009 21:34

Hope you don't mind the dodgy thread name but all our babies are 9 months old now or in the next few weeks

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Veggiemummy · 17/09/2009 11:09

Oops posted before I meant to just wanted to also ask where PMK is and hope Trace is ok and Kayz DH is ok? That is a quite bad side effect for the anxiety pill, esp when anxiety itself causes shortness of breath, not much help really.

Veggiemummy · 17/09/2009 11:28

Sorry cross posted Kayz glad DH is ok.

EffiePerine · 17/09/2009 15:39

Veggie: that's exciting news! And WG: really pleased abou the sleep.

DSs ill with nasty cold and DS2 has developed croup . took him to the GP who was great and wants to see him again tomorrow to check he's not getting any worse. We are now a three-inhaler household (blame me and my crappy genes). He is wheezing and barking away, he's having a tough time of it .

DS1 demanding telly so no more from me...

zoejeanne · 17/09/2009 20:16

Happy birthday Sybil, and Jolly for Saturday - hope you get extra cuddles from your DCs in honour of the occasion. And happy birthday to MrVeggie and LadyT's sister too

Well done to MrVeggie on the job interview, so exciting for you. Do you know yet when you'll be going? And will you be able to carry on with your BF work?

Lovely to have you back Arti, your holiday sounds really lovely - so much better than you hoped for. If your DD1 enjoyed the day with the nanny, I'm sure all will be fine. Children are the best judge of character IMO.

Sorry you have to go away Jolly, but on the positive side, at least it will be over quicker and a v long time before you have to go again.

Wow Invis, I'm very impressed you've been head hunted, I would love to be - the ultimate proffessional compliment I think. Surely you'll be snapped up when the time comes.

Kayz has your DH got some different pills today, without such scary side effects? That didn't siund good

Effie I hope your DS2 gets better quickly, sounds really nasty, poor little man. And Trace, are you feeling better today?

Not much to report here, DD still clapping, all the time ... even a poo got a round of applause yesterday! Its getting quite tedious now

SummerLightning · 17/09/2009 21:18

Hello everyone!
Well i am back from my little trip away. It was great, DS was very well looked after while I was away having fun, to the extent that he did not seem to notice that I had gone. I got some smiles when he was back but that was about it! Very impressed with DH, looking after the little man so well.
My biking trip away was AMAZING, to the extent that I am a little grumpy to be back, especially as I think DS is teething so he was grumpy yesterday (my first day back). Back to sunny little self today though! I also missed him but not to a silly gut-wrenching amount like I thought I might. And the biking was AMAZING, I was slow going uphills and on the last day didn't keep up very well, but more than made up for it on the tricky downhills which is the fun bit. I thought the best bit of the holiday would be getting a full nights sleep and a lie in, but fortunately although that was good, the biking was the best bit, as that was what I was there for. In addition it was nice to be somewhere and talk crap that didn't involve babies - lots of blokey talk - about bikes, tyres, cars, rude jokes, and lots of beer. No talk about nappies, sleep routines, and Annabel Karmel recipes(! Not that I am not guilty of talking on these topics from time to time as much as the best of us!)

So Veggie wahoo on the Amersterdam move!! Very exciting as well as a little scary I expect. Well done on the triathlon - did you get your time yet? I was amused at the story of the enthusiastic swimming bloke that held you up!

arti your holiday sounds like it was fab in the end. Well done on getting off the beaten track and making the most of it.

Happy birthday to jolly and sybil.
jolly sorry about work forcing you to go away, but I hope it will not be as bad as you think. I know it is not the same as it is work, but I really enjoyed a few days away from DS

zj I have been trying to persuade DS to clap or wave, to no avail. He never copies anything I do! But if it is annoying after a while, maybe I will stop trying to teach him.

jb I was thinking the same thing about the no pg ladies! maybe someone is but is keeping schtum til 12 weeks! I just had a wee scare, as periods not come back yet, but test was negative. I felt relieved so maybe I shouldn't be trying yet.

kayz glad your DH is feeling better. Sounds v scary.

Oh yes, and the MIL stories, there isn't really any specific stories from our holiday apart from my parents were there too, and she was just basically quite rude a lot of the time, talking about herself, abrasively disagreeing with things other people would say, making it rudely obvious that she only wanted to spend time with DH (not my parents, or me, or even DS), sulking when people wouldn't do exactly what she wanted, and generally acting like a child. SHe is often like this but was much worse than normal, which is probably because it is her first holiday since her husband died so we should try to cut her some slack but basically it was quite unbearable at times. DH is very patient but he said it was the worst holiday he had ever had because he felt caught in the middle (but equally I can't pretend I am having a good time and not tell him she is peeing me off, if you see what I mean). Sigh.

urbanewarrior · 17/09/2009 21:28

Happy birthday Sybil. Hope you had a fab day and were suitably spoiled

waitinggirl · 18/09/2009 07:18

hello all. update from waitingtowers on the sleep front.

lovley millpond lady gave us a plan to follow this week to break the boob/sleep connection. but unfortunately this has coincided with madam sleeping like a . teh night before we started, she was waking very nearly every hour. and this has continued, so now we are combatting this with boob only at designated times (rather than feeling we can use it to sort out stubbone non-sleeping as and when needed). seh does, thankfully, go back to sleep most of the time v quickly, but at times refuses to be put down in teh cot (i think that is next week's goal) and my back is now so ed that i can't hold her in my arms for too long, so dh has to take over, which means neither of us get any sleep. a consequence is that i am so dizzy from lack of sleep that i can nbarely stand this morning. poor dh has to work on this type of non-sleep.

i am reading the thread with great interest and would like to say hi to everyone, but sorry personals are beyond me right now.

good job madam is so cute, otherwise i'd be tempted to put her on ebay. ironically her cuteness means we'd get more for her on ebay. ugh.

waitinggirl · 18/09/2009 07:19

just seen that my 4 s comes up as only * on MN. suffice it to say, my mind is littered with swear words which i wouldn't want to inflict on any of you refined ladies, especiall yat this time of the morning.

oh, and not bold any more. hurrah.

traceface · 18/09/2009 14:04

hello.
Am feeling better now. I had a headache still all of yesterday but today I feel fine (albeit like a sleep-deprived-zombie kind of way!). I used to get a lot of headaches and was investigated for it when I was younger, but never migraines. Hopefully it was a one off.
Veggie wow! That's amazing - you're so brave and up for anything! I feel a bit overwhelmed because I we have to go to Sussex for a night in a few weeks time, and there's you taking your whole life to yet another different country! What's the time scale? I guess you'll still be on MN so we won't have to lose you
WG big big sympathies. I'm feeling that P and Madam may be in cahoots. Up every hour last night [yawn] and Lucy's nightmare happened to fall in one of my 30 minutes of sleep. grr. I'm trying not to feed her over night but she just wakes up and cries so often and I don't know why. Still no teeth so maybe that? or maybe it's just a habit. Does Madam have any teeth yet?
I've only done a mini day at work today because I've done more hours earlier in the week, so I'm home with no children for a whole hour! Cuppa and MN catch up
Still loving my job and my new colleagues. I took a few photos in today and put them on the wall near my desk so I can show off look at my lovely family all day! I went out with social services yesterday on some home visits and saw some truly shocking homes . My phone rang today and I completely ignored it because I forgot I had my own phone! My colleague had to point out that it was ringing
JB how's nursery going? Is she in properly yet or still on visits?
ZJ we have clapping here too, and a kind of wonky wave! And if I ask for a kiss she opens her mouth and drools on my face. nice
Saw my CPN on Wed and she's really happy with me - will see her again in November and if all is still well I can start to reduce my happy pills then.
The other day Lucy asked me where the lungs are on a nectarine . I love kids' minds!
Well I ought to go and put the washer on seeing as I've abandoned all domestic duties while I've been at work!
might be back later. WG can you catch up on any sleep in the day? Thinking of you.

EffiePerine · 18/09/2009 15:57

WG: sounds really hard . Have the sleep ladies given you a def timescale in which you should see improvement?

Well, we've spent most of the day at the GP/hospital, to be told again that DS2 does indeed have croup and get some steroids. The GP didn't likehis breathing so sent us off to the children's ward, then (of course) he had perked up again by the time we got there, so lots of waiting about feeling vaguely guilty for wasting everyone's time, in between trying to stop DS1 from breaking anything. DH has now taken DS1 into town soI have a bit of peace! Only DS2 is on the move again so better go stop him flinging himself off any steps...

urbanewarrior · 18/09/2009 19:54

Effie how is DS2 doing? Must be really tough. I hope tonight is better. Steroids are magic. You absolutely weren't wasting people's time - always better to go especially if GP said you should.

And wg I wish I could magic you a night's sleep.

And glad your head is better Trace. You should write down the things that L says...

DS spent all today building dens. So whole house is a tip but I'm lying on sofa watching TV instead of doing anything about it [there really should be a lazy slattern emoticon].

Also in case you didn't see this. Made me laugh.

zoejeanne · 18/09/2009 20:03

Summer welcome back, you're holiday sounds great, I'm impressed with the downhill cycling, I was scared to ski down the big hills in the pyrenees, but then I am a big wuss!

I love reading your posts, you sound so happy. Great news about the happy pills

WG I think you're doing fantastically well to stick with the plan wnen you're so tired. On another topic, how's your Dad?

Effie did you get aything for DS2?

Mum came over today on 'project bonding', and for no reason DD threw several tantrums for her. But Mum persevered and was rewarded with giggles in the end,phew DD was not helping the cause!

Kayzr · 18/09/2009 20:08

ZJ, do you think DD 'knows' and mucks about on purpose? MIL came round today and was telling DS2 he must be able to wave as my neice can. He didn't move his hand at all!

Oooh he crawled last night. Proper crawling, but none today.

Summer, glad you had a good holiday. Sounds fab!

WG, Hope you get some sleep tonight. I wish we could help somehow.

Going to a MN meet tomorrow in York. It's my old TTC thread and we now have a Ante/Post natal thread. Most of us have had our babes but there are still 3 to go. DS2 is the oldest so will nice to see some smaller babies

Hope you are all ok.

Veggiemummy · 18/09/2009 20:24

Evening all, we went to thomasland today, and apart from banging my head on Clarabel twice (fuck, actually just said that to see if it will be bleeped out) and ending up with a sore head and a bump on my noggin, and apart from a stupid train ride man shoving DS2'a pushchair to hard to get it onto Annie (or was it Clarabel) and snapping the hood bit quite comprehensively. Apart from all that we had a great day. It's quite expensive esp now DS1 is 4 but he loved it. Most of the rides are perfect for him. Unfortunately there was one ride that was a bit scary and I took him on it and it made him cry. It probably didn't help that I screamed! But it was quite high and fast. Anyway it was great fun and DS2 is shattered and asleep and DS1 is nearly there just settling down with daddy now with a book.

WG I really truely wish I lived near you so I could give you a break for a few hours. You are having it so tough. How is your dads leg by the way, and did things work out with his ladyfriend. I saw the most hilarious skit on The Mitchell and Webb look the other day and am dying to know if your DH wrote it. It's about asking for chairs in pubs and flushing the toilet at peoples houses overnight. I'm giggling just thinking about it.

Arti I wish I could be you nanny, that would be cool, though I might drink your home out of coffee.

Trace I'm glad your headache has gone and doesn't come back in a hurry. Why do you have to go to Sussex?

We are slowly getting our head around Amsterdam. We may have finally decided where we would like to live. There was a university town called Leiden that we visited a couple of times when over there that I really liked. It us quite close to the beach, is around 30 min by train to both Amsterdam and Rotterdam ( DH will be doing some work in Rotterdam) and there is a nice looking little international school near there, which has a good phys ed arts and music focus. And it seems to be attached to a Dutch Montessori school so that is a bonus. It seems most of the Montessori schools teach in Dutch and while we want DS1 to learn Dutch and think he will pick it up quickly it might be a bit much for him to speak English with mummy, Mandarin with Daddy then Dutch at school. Poor child will be getting his ma(s) and his Yah(s) all mixed up. Also I have checked and I can jump on a train in Rotterdam at 7am and be in London by 10.30am so can still do the odd London meet up and see friends in London. It actually feels quite special that I will carry you all over there with me, in my itouch. Also Derby east midlands airport has just started an Amsterdam route so we can pop back to Derby and quite cheaply too. The next thing is what to do with the cat?

SL glad you had a nice weekend with lots of burping and farting and beer. When is the next one? I did my tri in 1 hr 25 min which I was happy with. I used to do the sprint ones in 1 hr 18-20 min but I'm 12kg heavier and no where near as fit. I was happy because even though that moron slowed me up I still did the swim in 8.5 mins which is my old time and I've done very little swimming, but the ride was a little slow and the run was well I kind of jogging, it took me 30 mins. But most importantly I didn't come last. I came 413th out 599 total, so all competitors from 18 year old guys and gals to vets in the 50+ age group. I would like to see where I came in my heat which is the 30-39 ladies but they didn't seem to count that.

Oh gotta go dinner time

Veggiemummy · 18/09/2009 20:44

Oh just sneaking back in as still waiting for rice to cook. Effie croup is hard I used to work on an infectious diseases ward and we used to get loads of croup kids. Unfortunately it's one of those things where you just have to wait it out, support as much as possible with whatever they'll drink and then just wait it out. Steroid will help him breathe but otherwise not much else you can do. Oh I did mean to mention though with the inhaler was it a ventolin or atrovent inhaler? Atrovent would be better as babies immature lung muscles don't react with ventolin until they are about 12 months.

Right rice ready.

Veggiemummy · 18/09/2009 20:51

Oh bit of cross postsing. ZJ shame about tantrums but giggles are good.

Kayz your MIL strikes again then. My DS2 doesn't wave but he could bop up and down for England. He has just discovered that he can spring up and down to music and he loves it. We seem to all developed it as a dance move and when a song comes on the radio we all like we all start boping babyveggie style.

SummerLightning · 18/09/2009 22:27

Evening,
Did anyone get stuck to a chair by Derren Brown then? DH claimed he was but when I stood up and told him he was being silly he suddenly found he could stand up too.

kayz my DS doesn't wave either but some babies definitely can at their age or younger as DS's friend, same age has been able to wave and clap for a month or so now, it is very cute. Apparently girls learn earlier, but who knows!? Tell that to your MIL anyway. Or just yes "Yes my son is a bit dense, didn't you know?". That's what I say if anyone implies that DS should be able to do something that he can't. Though I have said I will stop doing that since I am worried I may still be saying it when he understands.

veggie well done on the triathlon time, sounds v impressive!

wg v sorry to hear about the crap sleep situation. I hope the sleep ladies' plan starts to work soon.

Veggiemummy · 18/09/2009 22:37

Lol SL that's quite funny about the dense child thing. I want Kayz to say it, just not when her DS1 is around as he might repeat it.

Kayzr · 18/09/2009 22:47

Talking of repeating things. My brother called someone a cheeky little sod the other day. You can probably guess what DS1's new favourite saying is.

DS2 does not want to go to sleep at all. DH is currently sat next to his cot trying to get him to nod off.

It's talk like a pirate day tomorrow!! Shiver me timbers!!!!!

SummerLightning · 18/09/2009 22:50

oh and in other exciting developments in my thrilling life today....I got shat on by a bird! Lovely!

artichokes · 19/09/2009 07:59

Morning All,

Sorry to hear about the croup Effie. How is DS2 now? Improving I hope. Did your DS1 ever have it? My neighbour has three boys all of whom get it. For some reason it is apparantly more common in boys.

LOL at your DD's well-timed tantrums ZJ. These babies can really pick their moments can't they.

No chair sticking hear Summer. I thought I was a pretty suggestible type but I'm clearly less suggestible than DB's average audience member.

Well done on the triathlon time Veggie. Amazing aftervtwo kids. I am currently struggling with the couch to 5k podcast so am in awe of you.

Sorry about the sleep WG. Big hugs.

On clapping/waving and the rest DD2 has had a massive developmental leap in the last fortnight. She has gone from sitting still and refusing to copy a thing to moving about, clapping, waving (and sometimes saying bye-bye whilevwaving) and pointing. She has also cut three more teeth in the same period. No wonder she has been unsettled! I love this stage though, she seems much less baby like and more little personish.

First few days at work were fine but the nanny settling has been painful. DD2 has cried a lot for the nanny, probably 90% of her waking time with her. It's heart breaking but it's how she is with everyone but DH and I at the moment. She will smile for Britain if you are at a distance but if you pick her up it's like her world has ended. However, the second DH or I take her she dissolves into fits of giggles and smiles. Schizophrenic child. DD1 is settling better but is going through a naughty phase and bit DD2 yesterday. She actually bruised her and I was very shocked and may have overreacted (or so say mumsnetters on another thread I started). Oh dear. This mothering malarkey is hard to get right.

Veggiemummy · 19/09/2009 13:57

Crikey Arti what did you do try to smother her with a pillow, that would be over reacting. Seriously you should always run stuff past us first, Trace will a test to that. Sorry about the nanny but really as heart breaking as it is it would be the same if it was nursery so what can you do, at least it's one to one. DS1 was held by the same nursery worker for 2 months before he finally settled in. I doubt it's the nanny. By the way how is the nanny handling it.

Also wow on the bye bye, is that a first for our dec 08 babies. First to verbalize, babyArti!

What sort of bird SL?

Veggiemummy · 19/09/2009 14:14

Oh and happy birthday ZJ.

We are having a low key day for DH, we actually went to a soft play that does a really good breakfast for his birthday breakfast. But we have booked a sitter and will have a nice posh dinner tonight.

tillyfernackerpants · 19/09/2009 18:06

hi all, have been v busy last couple of weeks so MN dropped to the bottom of the priority list unfortunately.

Ds1 started nursery school this week, and proclaimed his uniform was 'beautiful' . But he seems to have settled in well and is enjoying it.

Ds2 is now waving & eating everything in sight including electrical cables if he can get his hands on them!

Hope you & the dcs are all ok, sorry I haven't done personals, am just taking a quick break from an essay!

zoejeanne · 19/09/2009 19:28

Kayz I am sometimes convinced that DD is deliberating trying to wind my Mum up, don't know where she gets that from, obviously I didn't spend my teenage years trying it on with her

SL isn't it good luck to be pooed on? I hope so, DD got pooed on recently when she was napping outside in her push chair (fortunately just her trousers)

Veggie it sounds like you've had a great time celebrating your DH's birthday

Arti I completely agree about our little people, DD is so entertaining right now and enjoyable to be with. I always thought I loved tiny babies the best, but she just gets better and better. I am v impressed with bye bye

Hi Tilly great to hear all is well with you and the boys. hope you get that essay finished quickly

DD's godparents have been with us today, and have been setting DD a good example by taking her to the pub this afternoon . They've just gone to get a take away now, so that strictly and some wine means a good night'