October 2007- These Little Piggies started throwing tantrums

[FloriaTosca]

The lastest thread for the fabulous women who were due their babies in the October of the Chinese year of the pig and who now have terrible tantrums and delightful cuddles in equal measure from their almost 2 year olds. New and old members welcome to drop in for a chat anytime....

WWAJC ;Know exactly what you mean about the garden looking odd...I looked out and it was as if I had forgotten that we had flogged ourselves all summer to turf......pleasant surprise though

Muppet; the grass seems to be doing pretty well...wet but not a quagmire atm so the financially ruinous drains are working (thank the Lord)..and I fully intend hosting a big meet up BBQ this Summer...it should be a good one after such a cold winter..(fingers crossed emoticon)

Eva; I hope the unworthy one arranged childcare and you got the time to get your assignments done. Bravo you for looking forward to providing a good future for the 2 of you...oh and fwiw I wouldn't worry about A. sleeping in your bed either, she feels more secure and probably sleeps better for it... they grow up so fast, why not enjoy these precious moments while we can. Good luck with the exams. I'm just north of Manchester (approximate mid point for our wide ranging piggie mums) I tried to organise a BBQ last year after we had done our garden but the weather conspired against us and we didnt get the garden turfed until the end of September so too late for a gathering. It will definately happen this year when the weather is better

Hello everyone. I thought I should let you know that I've been lurking on the thread again - I always have a read to hear how everyone is doing . Inzi - this sounds like a hard time for you - but I'm also so pleased to hear of your pregnancy. Hope you feel better soon. Dal - good news too on the pregnancy! Floria - night weaning is tough, but sounds like it's going really well. WWAJC - we too have just been turned down for DLA, and I'm deciding whether to appeal or not. It's such an awful form to complete in the first place isn't it? I hope your appeal is succesful.

When I do manage to mumsnet I'm usually on a different thread as dd2 has been ill with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome / ME for the past 9 mths and I've found the ladies on that support thread have been amazing - all have children with CFS. I'm sorry I haven't been able to keep up with this thread too, but I have enjoyed reading all the funny things the lo's are doing! Rory is a turbo charged boy so we have very different energy levels to manage in the household. He's just started at nursery x 2 days per week to give hime some time out of the house as I'm fairly well house bound with dd2. He sounds a lot like all of your 2 yr olds - very funny and can't be left unattended for long at all, or it's candles in the toaster and washing up on the floor His favourite film is Barbie Swan Lake ( spot the influence of 2 big sisters! ) and this morning he was acting it out with his toy farm animals - a cow got to be Barbie and a pig was the "naughty man" . 2 really is a great age isn't it?
Anyway I hope you don't mind me popping on to say hello to you all.

Wrote most of that yesterday but got caught up with rl and forgot to send

WWAJC; I hope you get to see the house soon..if you need any help whatsoever please call...we have an estate car and a picasso both with van size capacity....

Muppet; love the sampler.Your household sounds like so much fun though I don't envy you and LLL your long journeys to school/nursery...are ther any soft play type places you could camp out in whilst waiting for Ollie next year? We are very lucky to have a very good village school just at the end of our road...shame it doesn't have a nursery attatched but the nursery round the corner has an excellent reputation. Sad that Jeffs mum said no...I hope the next potential home is the one for him.

Alice; what car did you replace the old one with after the sad accident before Christmas?

Dal;so glad your fil is improving..hope he is home soon. and also hope the midwife aspiriations come to fruition (it will give you something to discuss with your MW in 7 weeks time anywayas if you won't have enough on your mind)

Chocstar; are there any toddler classes like swimming lessons/softplay/tots gym/dance class you could do on a weekend to get to meet Mums in the same situation as you?...I know I'm priviledged to be able to go to classes any morning of the week as all the pals Alex has were met at baby massage, talk first and swimming and their mums and I take it in turns to host tea & toys sessions most weeks (free playschool plus a cuppa and a gossip/whinge and your house only gets trashed once every 2-3 months )..it only takes one person to suggest it (guilty as charged)

We had a busy weekend, dog club xmas dinner on Friday(after origional one was cancelled due to weather). pals' sons' 18th bday on Saturday (Alex had a ball because they have 2 other 2 yr olds in the family...cue Alex, the smallest, leading the others on a mad rampage through the very large house shoutng "come on guys!")and a
Dhs family friends' wedding yesterday (2nd marriage for both of them..3 boys aged 7-14 between them and another on the way ( 12wks pg))...oh, and between all that Dh started to install flooring in the loft, a new loft hatch/ladder and put in new spot lighting in the dressing room in preparation for us furnishing it properly (he just can't stop DIYing!!!) and [drum roll] Alex slept through both Friday and Saturday nights!! (though they were both very late to bed nights) and only woke once last night.
...oh and fil has announced that he is retiring early in 3 months time, has cashed in his insurance policies and is feeling so flush he is taking us all to Spain for a week in July!!!! [mixed feelings emoticon]

run out of time...sorry I havent mentioned everyone...love to all

Katch!!!! xposted (yes it takes me that long)
lovely to hear from you too. So sorry to hear of your DD2 , a pals daughter suffers too ...got it at 17, had to defer a year of A levels.. and then dropped out of her 1st yr at Uni but is coping ok-ish with uni (a different uni and course) this year...she was put on a strict bed/get up regime and a "stoneage" diet ...not a miracle cure but worked enough to get her through her A levels. I hope you find a way to help your DD too. Glad that you have a good supportive htread on here. Lovely to hear Rory is as naughty mischeivious as our lot...candles in the toaster!.

Really must go now!!!

Wow FT busy busy bee :D great news about the holiday too

crochet - could use your help on this thread please!
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hi all

wwajc - please give a shout if you want any help / advice with dla stuff. Have been through it all with my dd. The forms are utterly soul destroying.. best of luck with yr appeal. I'm on fb if you want to contact me there. My first name is same as muppetgirl's

crochet - my posting name on an thread was v similar to yrs - initals and numbers

going to hoover and clean skirting boards now. pretend our chaotic house (we the same!) is actually quite the opposite. We have a viewer tomorrow. Woohoo!

Good news about the sleeping and holiday ft. Is everyone's oct baby out of a cot now? Mine still in his but going to have to swap so dd can go in the cot (still not got her bed. Grrrrr! She really has come close to launching out of her bed now so that will have to do for the meantime)

I put a video of ds on fb. Tis from a late xmas party and he gets a pressie he is less than impressed with. Our fault for bigging up the return of santa all week I didn't see it cos I was at panto with dd. WE had a ball at least!

We all loved gruffalo on tv at christmas. We went to see the tall stories stage production over the hols as well. Was ok - acting and songs were good but could have done with being a bit more.. wow spectacle. Gruffalo costume was good but the rest were barely there, theatre in education stylee. Also gruffalo wasn't much bigger than the mouse - could have used some shadows or something for better effect. ds wasn't interested in production until gruffalo came on - ran around shouting 'park'. Hence his absence from panto

OMG at this rate we'll be needing a new thread within days

Herjazz-?Can't believe you still ahve not got DDs bed, that's terrible. Saw some of your pics in the the snow, very cute. Shannon has been out of a cot for a few months, about 6 I think because she learnt to climb out.

Muppet-Crap about Jeffs mum saying no, fingers crossed for the next person to be suitable.

Oh bugger, friend just got here, will try and be back later.

Well it took two hours to get Dareh to go to sleep tonight so no progress there.

Floria I have started to take him to a baby ballet class but the mums don't talk. I dunno - maybe I just don't connect with people very well - or at least I don't seem to where I am. The mum's that I knew I would see here and there when I was at home full time but they are with their families at the weekend and they are really more aquantances the friends if you know what I mean. It's weird - it's like people I meet these days don't really talk if that makes sense. They just chat. Not that I am against chatting but I would have no one I could talk to if I was struggling with something if you know what I mean.

Katch so sorry to hear about your DD2. It's nice to hear from you!

Ah I wanted to reply to people properly but my brain is much - I need sleep!!

Herjazz; Good luck with the viewing today. It's hell I know; took us 18mths to sell our last house (3 yrs ago, before the recession!) I was heartily sick of keeping the place spotless and farming the dog out for viewings...and that was of course pre-baby. SIL has had hers on the market since she kicked her adulterous ex out 3 years ago, without a single offer .I hope yours sells very quickly. Alex had the side taken off his cotbed ages ago (about 6 mths ago I think) when he tried to throw himself out headfirst wearing a sleepsac. What has caused the delay in the delivery of dds bed?

Choc; I can't believe that you don't connect well with people Perhaps you just have some clique-y mums in your babyballet class. Have you tried other classes like swimming .. or do you have a community play group type thing; My friends little boy adores Sunday School and she has made lots of friends in the church social group/Mothers Union)...feel free to tell me too shut up and keep my ideas to myself...you are more than bright enough to find such things for yourself ...as for wanting to chat, well we are here for you at anytime Hope you got a good nights sleep.

We have tea&toys at one of Alexs friends this morning so I had better get a move on..I'm trying to walk everywhere atm rather than use the car....everything takes 10x as long

sorry to hear yr so sicky inzi

chocolatestar - ds has recently got v clingy and difficult to settle at nights.I'm not having the game yr having just that a lot of our progress from last 12 months has er kind of gone! re actually meeting up with folk and forming proper support / friendship rather than just chit chat is there any local boards on internet (mn local?)/rl groups you could try? Are you under Homestart? They are v good and can help you if you are feeling isolated / in need of chat. Their groups facilitate making friends / sharing support and ideas much more than the structured activity sort of groups (ime I often found these to be rather competitive. Fine if you just ignore / transcend and enjoy the activity - like we went to sing and sign and there was some of this going on but I stuck at it and got a lot out of it. This was with my dd who was about 18mths older than rest of group and has moderate deafness and ld - kind of liberated me from the competetive side )

katsch - meant to say in previous post sorry to hear about yr dd

we haven't got dd's bed cos of squabbling over funding - STILL. The logical approach of pct paying half and ss paying half is obv too straightforward! each body needs to send round their own people to ascertain how much of the bed is for a medical need (like it tilts cos she aspirates, needs to be soft cos of her seizures, have holes in it for feeding tubes) and how much social (er its a bed - she needs to sleep, she needs high sides cos has no sense of danger / concept of falling out, needs to accomodate hoists, lift and raise for carer etc). Tis just going round in circles. Feel like just spending 2 and half grand out of house deposit we've saved and buying the bloody thing ourselves but have been urged by her physio to stick with it.

thanks for yr cot/bed experiences. ds hasn't attempted to get out yet. I put it down to the fact he was in growbag but obv he just prefers to holler and get one of us to pluck him out instead! Hey ho. Will get a stairgate thing (thinking that canvas roll-y one) and see how we all get on with swapping over

YESSSSSS FT selling house is just a norse. We have had 2 buyers already. Alas they both pulled out. The stress of practically shovelling all our stuff into the alleyway/ car each viewing is really getting to us now. Hope these were are ones - they seemed v positive but pah the hardened cynic that I am, I've seen that before. Making all the right noises and gushing about how GREAT house is and talking of where their furniture would go only to then call agent up next day and say 'nah wasn't feeling it' Grrrrr

Awwww Inzi, I really hope the ms/tiredness/feeling drugged wears off soon!

be back later, am off for my first run iof this year [bad muppet emoticon!]
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x-post herjazz!

Herjazz - I hope you get the bed for DD sorted soon, bloody politics and also hope the house viewing goes well and you manage to sell.

Inzi - sorry you are having such bad morning sickness, just think about the beautiful bundle of joy you will get at the end of it

Muppet - hope your run went well :-)

Hey all,

Inzi that sounds hellish - hope it passes soon. Keep eating the ginger snaps!

Thanks for the advice Floria/herjazz. I would really like to do some sort of course or something - actually I would like to do a show but not sure if I would have the time as I am so busy with school and obviously would need to commit. I am hoping the right kind of opportunity shows up soon.

Dareh still crying - almost two hours. Trying to stick with it for a week - been giving in up until now so really inconsistant. It's soooo hard though. Makes me feel really guilty.

I need an early night tonight for sure - Dareh was up in the night last night and still up at six! Hope everyone is well!

Just realised I mixed up old and new chatnames last time - sorry! - I get so confused I have to go through everybody's old name and rl name in my head to keep track when I read posts and I typed what was in my head rather than what I should have typed.

Choc - hope you're feeling better. Sorry you're feeling a bit low - I agree with FT - spread yourself far and wide and I'm sure you'll find mums you can talk to. Sending lots of sleep vibes for Dareh too.

LLL - love your honesty about not bothering to read back through posts! It's great that the thread's so busy again though.

Katsh - hi! Yes, DLA form is a nightmare, even though I found lots of assistance on the web. Decided I didn't have anything to lose by appealing and there was lots of stuff that they'd completely ignored in their original decision so might as well give it a go - they can only say no! (again!) Sorry about your dd. Loving Rory's rendition of Swan Lake with the farm animals - that's really cute.

Herjazz - thanks for offer of help too with dla - will shout if it all starts to go pearshaped! Good luck with the getting the house sold. Sorry you're having such difficulty with dd's bed - it shouldn't have to be such a nightmare. Hope it's sorted out soon.

Inzi - Lol! Sorry you're suffering hun, hoping it passes soon.

FT - weekend sounds fun - lol at Alex leading the others astray, that doesn't sound like him at all!! Well done Alex sleeping through - hope that's the start of him doing it every night. Thanks for offer of a car - I will bear it in mind as I might need to get some furniture, even if it's just a toddler bed - house comes furnished though so shouldn't be too bad. This is all still in my head mind you, which is a whole different ball game to actually doing it in practice.

Realised I haven't given most of you much background to what's going on - this is how bad things got a few months back, and despite what I said at the end of that thread neither of us have made an effort since then and I've pretty much withdrawn while it's dawned on me that I don't want to try any more. I've arranged to see the house later this week, so we'll see how that goes.

Anya had her swine flu jab today - doesn't seem to be suffering any ill effects except for sometimes holding her arm saying "hurts". She's had some calpol before bed so hopefully she'll be ok.

WWAJC - I have a mamas and papas toddler bed you can have if you need it? Was bought for when (takes deep breath!) Toby would be in the cot/bed so Henry would have needed a toddler bed BUT dh broke the cot/bed and it's now a toddler bed and we had to buy a new cot for Toby. When Toby needs a toddler bed Henry will be in a single bed so he can have the cot/bed.

It was second hand to me but nothing wrong with it as the lady I bought it from (Ollie's school friends mum) is a very clean lady!!!

Muppet - oh that's so nice of you, thank you. TBH I was just going to go to Ikea and get a bed + mattress for about £50, along with whatever else I needed. It would probably cost me that in petrol to pick yours up - although I would have the added bonus of meeting up with you and seeing Toby!

Just read your link WWAJC - I'm so sorry I didn't know it was that bad
I would seperate and give it say, 6 months. If you and dh miss each other then it's worth talking about. If you find you're happier without him then I think you have your answer. Staying with him when things are this bad doesn't give you any perspective as you as both just anoy each other. At least if you are apart you have space both emotionally and literaly so you can both think. I think the way to think of it is the day you walk out the door to your new house is the first day to the rest of your life -whatever path you decide to take.
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WWAJC ((((((HUGS)))) I really didn't realise how bad things were, as you say, he really is charming and smiley when guests are there. It is so sad that he had a dreadful childhood and that his first marriage failed but he doesn't appear to have learned from those experiences, it is a shame he won't get help to become the man you origionally married again but he is the one who is at fault and is refusing to take any responsibility. His insistance that it is all your fault is childish and bordering on emotional abuse. You are a happy person, especially when we meet away from your home...being aware of the background now I am more aware (in hindsight) of how you are more quiet and to be honest appear to be treading on eggshells when he is home. I think Muppets idea of an initially 'trial' separation would probably do you both the world of good, for you getting away from the stress and relieving the burdened of guilt he has put on you and perhaps it might make him realise what he has done and needs to do to make amends...though personally I'd hire a little flat, hand him the keys and his bags and let him have the upheaval, but I'm not as nice a person as you are
What ever you decide, whenever you decide to do it, if there is anything whatsoever I can do to help please don't hesitate to call.

I can't believe I wrote 'she is a clean lady!!!'

WWAJC - so sorry you have been going through so much shit, hope you can get on track soon and start enjoying life

Oh and by the way, I do read everything that is posted, but just can't seem to find the motivation to answer everything when it gets too busy :D

WWAJC ((hugs)) to you, you have tried and it's not your fault things aren't working out. Remember we're all here for you. I'm sure that, scary as it is, once you get moved you will be able to see things a lot more clearly and will feel a lot happier in general

Back later ladies, just wanted to pop in to say that!

Thanks all for supportive comments - it helps to know you're out there.

We've had a very low key day today - Anya is feeling a bit poorly after her jab yesterday, she's hardly eaten except for loads of yoghurt and although she's played as she normally would she's had to keep going for a little lie down on the sofa every hour or so. She fell asleep on the sofa at 4pm and is still flat out - me thinks it's going to be a very late night then but I just want to let her sleep as much as she needs. Anybody else's lo had theirs yet?