October 2007- These Little Piggies started throwing tantrums

[FloriaTosca]

The lastest thread for the fabulous women who were due their babies in the October of the Chinese year of the pig and who now have terrible tantrums and delightful cuddles in equal measure from their almost 2 year olds. New and old members welcome to drop in for a chat anytime....

OK so catching up - it is actually about 6-7 weeks since i was last on - sorry ladies!

Very much skim read but...

Eva so sorry to hear about your dh leaving. Sending you very big hugs and best wishes and hope that things are beginning to get more bearable a few weeks down the line...

WWAJC - sorry to hear that you and your dh are struggling too. Hope you manage to work things out for the best whatever way that may be - I am here if you need me...x

Dal - congrats on a (possible) second little boy!!! We had a swing for Sam which he loved but Adam didn't rate it! Best thing i had to cope with 2 was the famous hugabub as I could carry / cuddle adam while playing with Sam

Stefka great news on ttc!!

NC sorry to hear you've been in the wars what with your piles, endometritis and failed termination - sending you a big hug! Thanks too for texting me and giving me the kick up the bum to come back!

Floria well impressed with all your domestic goddess-ness!

See there has been chats about potty training - Adam is getting really into this too. Both toilet and potty. He'll ask to go on once or twice a day and is really pleased with himself when he produces (and needless to say we make a big fuss of him!). We are sticking to the same plan as with Sam though - keep encouraging him but not push it until he says he wants to wear pants. I am just happy to encourage him and take it from him.

Still catching up but want to send before computer eats my message - back soon!

OK so when I sent that last message I was only a couple of posts behind - that will teach me to read the date won't it?!

Hope I haven't missed too much and I will do my best to keep on top of things - reassuring to see that others have been a bit sporadic too...

Anyone fancy another meetup in york in New Year? Guessing if we could find a soft play place or similar that might work better now they are older? Thoughts?

Hi Alice.
Greaqt idea about York, found a few soft play areas.

here

here
and
here

All on the outskirts of York though, but quite easy to get to I'd think. I'll be driving anyway so any are good for me unless there are anymore in the Centre.

I'm good for the last 2 weeks in Jan, so what days can others do? I can't do Fridays.

right going to get on with some college work, DD1s Grandma has got Shannon for a few hours so need to crack on.

NC - things not too bad here thank you, should be able to get through Christmas ok. Not surprised you're a bit stressed - good news that you've finished one assignment though.

Alice - helllooooo! We've missed you. Glad you and the boys are happily settled into your new house - bet it's wonderful! Another meet-up would be great - although I am the worst person for being that organised . My days off are Monday and Wednesday, although we have Jo Jingles Monday mornings and I have to pay for the classes in advance so I don't want to miss one if I don't have to.

Anya had her Christmas party today at the junior club at the gym. DH had been asked to do Santa, which probably confused her lots! I'm quite sure she knew it was him. She did lots of singing/dancing/eating/running round so she's been so tired for the rest of the afternoon. She's already been in bed asleep half an hour now, so I've got a lovely long evening of internet catching up with jobs.

Good suggestions for places NC - personally I think option 2 looks best as there seems to be a lot to do both inside and out and cafe sounds nice (although haven't had a very close look and haven't seen where they are - would be happy with either really).

My days off are Thurs and Fri - WWAJC guess that means we won't be able to find a day that you and I can both get to unless one of us is able to change days / take a day of leave? Come April my days off might be Wed and Thurs again although for my own reasons i hope not!

Lets see what others can do and take it from there...

Off to watch who is through to x factor final now....

HI everyone!!!

I am so sorry a few of you are having tough times at the mo, am thinking of you all. I have been crap at keeping in touch but should be back to being a regular now life is a little more under control. Alice has done a great job in catching up for me also (thank you! xxx) xxx

I have news...
Toby has a tooth!!!

He's been crotchty and grumpy and waking up in the night and now I know why! Dh back from droping the boys off and now we're up for a week of catching up on jobs not done, cleaning and having a couple of days out -London and Bath. Seeing my Godaughter tomorrow and on friday we get Toby's cot delivered so we'll spend the afternoon putting it together. We can't use the same cot as Ollie + Hen as DH broke it -well and truly!- when Hen moved out of his old room and into his new one.

How's everyone with the potty trainning? Is everyone in a bed yet?

Henry is sooo ready for potty trainning -he gets the potty out and sits on it and asks for his trousers down!!! Itls me who's putting it off as nappies are so much easier. I get out quite a bit with them both but with him potty trainning I know it'll be way more difficult. January is it though as he's getting big boy pants for Christmas.

Vocabulary wise he's fab, telling me 'yellow digger, yellow car' and he counts to 10 on the stairs and when he plays, so all that sitting around on his arse must have been for a reason! I'm not saying he's a genius but I was quite worried about him for a time devlopmentally but he seems fine now.

Right, a large glass of rose awaits me also the x-factor final with an episode of the Tudors after -anyone watched that Johnathon Reys-Meyers is gorgeous!!!!

Love to all

xxx

Hello muppet! Lovely to hear from you! Are you about over Christmas at all? We're going to my Mum and Dads on 27th until prob 2nd so might manage a catch up if so? be lovely to meet your new addition (actually not so new now I guess!!!)

I'm settled in for the xfactor final though but we're sky plussing it so we can fast forward through all the dross that they are padding it out with - can't believe it is on for 2 hours and they're only singing 2 songs each!!!

Muppet - wow at Toby's tooth - that's really early. Hope he gets a few at once so he's not grumpy for too long. Enjoy your week off and your days out. Not started potty training yet - waiting until Anya's a bit more articulate. We've bought her a bed for Christmas so she'll be going in it Christmas Eve.

Hi Alice! xxx

Yep we're about would love to meet up x

WWAJC - he's been chewing anything like you wouldn't believe poor sausage.

x-factor
JUST TELL US WHO'S WON!!!!!!!!

wish we had taped it and fast forwarded!

Joe - no surprises there!

Muppet I'll email you my number so we can sort something out! Be lovely to see you

OK just realised you weren't asking ME to tell you who had won - just commented on all the bloody drivel!!

hope I haven't spoilt it for anyone who didn't know!

Hello WWAJC - hope Anya doesn't climb in and out of her new bed on christmas eve so you're all shattered for the big day! Having said that we were convinced that Sam would end up sleeping in different corners around his room when he went into his big boy bed and he still waits in it until we go in to tell him he can get up

Henry does the same in that he shouts MUMMMY!!!!!!!!!!! until I go and get him. We were so worried after Ollie was such a pain but Henry was fab. He LOVES his bed. We put his cushion in his bed that I made him and he had new bedding with planes and cars and he has nicked one of Toby's blankets and loves it.

Watching the Tudors now

Am still in love with JRM

am also slightly possed!
xxx

Alice - hadn't even thought of the consequences of Anya being able to get out of her bed on Christmas Eve night . Ah well, it's not like I'm hosting on Christmas day so I'll take the risk!

Hello everyone!

Alice/Muppet/Anya - Olly doesn't ever seem to stay in his bed till the morning! He tends to wander into our room at some point in the night, climb onto the bed and go back to sleep (often at the end curled up like a dog ) and we only notice in the morning! I suppose the benefit of this is that at least we all get a night's sleep.

Olly is in 'not-sleepy' mode at the moment, and is having a conversation with his trains on the sofa "no crash, naughty thomas, say sorry"

I think we may start potty training properly in March - I have two weeks off as my childminder is on holiday, so i will have plenty of time with him on my own. I found some Lightning McQueen (from Cars the movie for the uninitiated!) pants in Tesco, which Santa is bringing him for Christmas, so I hope that will spur him (and me) on.

I have to go and make the packed lunches now - hope you are all well xx

Hello ladies, pooping in to quickly wave. Everyone is so busy mowadays aren't they.
Alice, like I said any of them will be good for me and the second 2 weeks in Jan are definately the best for me if others can make it

WWAJC-Loved the pics on FB and hope Anya stays in the bed, Shannon stands at the gate on her door shouting for me or Rich-or DD1 if she's really desperate to get out

Muppet-Glad Henry has started doing more, he was just working things out before he did it all, he's going to think before he acts-probably a good trait to have!

Oh God I can't remember what else was written sorry

Have got Shannon at nursery tomorrow so hoping to get a large chunk of college work done-but I have so much else I need to do arghhh.

Rant Alert
Am so struggling for child care at the moment, the most obvious choice would be sil as she is sat on her arse not doing f*ck all staying at home and relaxing before she gives birth, but when I asked if she could have Shannon for 2 hours one evening while I take dd1 to the pantomime she said no as it is too close to her due date-my bro would be there, its her first baby due boxing day and I'd manage to get there within less than 20 minutes. So there isn't much point in asking for during the day even though Shannon sits watching Dora on repeat without moving-just wish I could manage to do some work with it on!
Maybe I'm being selfish but I really feel the need to throttle sil atm, she is so..fussy and convinced she is going to give birth before christmas so that she can go buy him a cute christmas day outfit. Can't wait for her to get a reality check, not usually this uncharitable but she is so annoying and never helped me out when I was pg on my own but expects my brother to run round after her. Right enough ranting, going to go to bed soon.
Love to all, and someone give me a slap over sil!

Oh god, I sound so bitter, wonder if I should get it deleted?

Nah NC no need to get it deleted - its what we are here for!!! Dear me she sounds a bit pfb even before the lo arrives - maybe you should steer clear a bit when he actually arrives or she might just drive you crazy!

One of my friends had dc3 yesterday - another little boy after a girl (6) and boy (4). He was actually due on New years day so a little early! Got her christmas card today too in which she said that she hoped the baby owuld be late as she still has loads to do!!! Oh well!!

Dh is away a fair bit this week - tonight and Thurs overnight and not back till after 9pm tomorrow. Got a few girlfriends over tonight though which will be lovely.

NC I can do last 2 weeks in Jan on a Thurs or Fri - just let me know when works best for you!

Hope you're having a lovely evening with your mates Alice. I can do Thurs but not Fri's. My friend had her baby too, a couple of weeks ago, going to see her tomorrow.
Oh sil really drives me potty, she really does think she's a princess, saying that (d)b came round this evening to collect some toys and started moaning about them being to old for the baby, I said he'd soon grow into them and he said well they'd just buy him new ones! All they ever do is moan about money, think I need to take a step away from them, which is a shame as I'd like to get to know the baby when he's born but its probably better to keep a civilised distance...maybe I'm being silly, just got so much on that I am quite resentful of everyone and everything at the moment!
Shanno has got her nursery party tomorrow, she's wearing her pink fairy dress and says she's a prinsssessss Then its DD1s carol concert thing tomorrow night, then we've got the pantomime on Thurs night, AAT all day Fri and meant to be out with friends on Sat but considering giving it a miss so that I can get some work done! God I'll have to stop coming on and moaning, sorry.

Everyone ready for christmas? Dal hows things with you? Dylan eating good?

Strawberry - at Olly talking to his trains - that's adorable. Anya's started talking to her dolls in her dolls house "bedtime, night night".

NC - not surprised you're annoyed with sil - you're trying to juggle so much it shouldn't be beyond her to help out for a couple of hours. Is this her first child on the way? Maybe she's in a pfb phase - unbelievably annoying for everyone else but we probably all did it to some extent. (Ah - wrote that before reading Alice's post - great minds and all that!) Enjoy all your parties and pantos this week.

Alice - congrats for your friend - what a lovely Christmas present. Enjoy your girlie evening.

I would love to meet up with everybody but I'm not going to commit to anything just at the moment - dh and I have swung back into a bad patch after a minor row yesterday so providing I can pluck up the courage I'm expecting major upheaval in the new year.

WWAJC-sorry to hear that, tbh it sounds as though it will be the best thing for you all, although painful for a while it must be unsettling to feel as you do. Yes its her PFB but she's always been like this anyway. Don't know why I'm letting her get to me so much, it just seems as though I have to fight to get everything and anything and she has it all handed to her on a plate, she's never worked ft as she has said(for the past 4 years) when she gets married and has babies then she doesn't want to from ft to nothing and her cats cannot be left all day alone and the cleaning would never get done if she worked more than 8 hours a week...oh I could go on, but I wont, for now
Sleep well everyone

Sorry ladies...awol again

Muppet! Alice! great to see you both back... see, the thread picks up again as soon as you two show your faces

Alice; I'm up for a meet up in York prob being my free days are Mon and Tues...though Weds or Thurs are possible-ish with lots of notice (and I'd have to leave early to get home for the impossible to move lessons at 5pm)

Looking forward to seeing you on Saturday at the TC Muppet if that is still on...any particular time in mind?

WWAJC; sorry you have has another contretemps I hope it doesn't ruin your christmas. You know how to get hold of me if ever you need me....but I'll see you too on Sat anyway (((hugs)))

NC; those assignments sound tough but well done on getting one done...wish I lived closer to take Shannon out for a few hours for you

News here is Alex slept through from 11pm(we were at a party)-6.30am on Saturday night and then on Sunday went down (with a fight)at 9pm, woke and came in to us at 11.45-12.05 and then slept back in his own bed untill 6.45am! and last night went down with only a bit of fuss, woke at 2ish, came in to us for 15 mins and took himself back and came in again at 6am and slept with us until 7! that is the very best run of good nights we have ever had....Dh is in Finland tonight, I wonder if the run of amazing sleep will continue?

I've been tarting up the main (unremodelled and very yuk) bathroom to surprise Dh when he gets home ...spent all (90mins) of Alexs nap time today sanding off flaking tile paint and rubbing the walls down with bleach...hope it looks good enough to last us another year or two when I finish because after all the work we have done on the house this year finances wont stretch to a new bathroom for several more years ...domestic goddess I, sadly, am not, though thanks for the vote Alicet but I think he needs something doing for him and he isn't getting much in his stocking this year and if it looks passable for a little while longer perhaps he wont goad himself into more DIY action for a while.
Better go take advantage of sleeping time...night nigh all!

oops NC; meant to say your sil needs a slap (round the chops with a wet fish) but no doubt the arrival of her little prince will give it to her

NC - sorry your sil's being a pain at the mo, it sounds like she's been preapring for this for some time and no-one is going to take away one second of her being able to grab all the attention by moaning or being demanding. I still think you're a legend for doing all that and more on your own! (I remember you fixing up your house before Shannon arrived ) You're coping with 2 children whilst re-training to give you all a better life, I think you're amazing and I only wish I lived nearer so I could help xx

Alice - hope you're having a great time with girlie pals -and getting a bit possed? x

WWAJC - really sorry to hear about possible upheavels would some time apart help or do you think it's a finality? Take care of yourself xxxx

Floria - you and dh sound so accomplished at diy I am quite I can paint and decorate but dh can't do a thing so we have to save up and get help in which means I'm not sure if the house is ever going to be finished before we have to start the first bit again! We've done the boys bedrooms, our shower room and the kitchen and hall but next year it's turning the dinning room back into one and getting the shit pit much needed playroom painted. We're lucky that the house was new when we moved in so it didn't need doing (so we didn't ) but it was only painted in builders magnolia so it desperately needs doing now (4 years later )

I am also really sorry but I think I'm going to have to cancel Sat as dh has double booked us with Ollie's godfather. He never organises anything and has just told me we were going to stay over thur/fri but tobes is struggling with his teeth so we figure it would be spending an awful lot to sleep in one room and not do anything for fear of waking him up and then waking up really early anyway. I think we'll be up again in feb if either of you 2 lovely ladies are around?

We had a lovely day in London yesterday, I have new hair and we had a lovely lunch near dh's work. He got to show Toby off to work mates and we did a little shopping. Traffic home was crap to say the least but it was my fault for suggesting we drove into London (why? was I possessed by the stupid Christmas elf??) we're having a jobs day today, sorting the airing cupboard -not been in there for a few years so goddness knows what I might find! We need to pick up the bowl that Ollie painted for Grandma and the boot pen pot that Henry did. I say 'did' in the loosest of terms as he did 2 splodges and said 'finished'

Hope all are well,
xxx

Oh frabjous day calloo callay!!!!!!!

A certain someone slept...yes..I said slept from leaving mums at 9pm last night (an hour late because he had the very devil in him and was making Mum and Db laugh so much)until 5am!!!! he then got into bed with me, bf'd and slept until...wait for it...wait for it...8AM!!!!!!! Never before in the history of Alex has he stayed in bed past 7am! I'm rapturous!.....I'm in serious danger of turning into a human being at this rate!

Awww Muppet! If anything happens to your plans (though I'm not wishing that on you, honest)and you want to see the TC after all, you have my mobile don't you?, just give us a bell....We can always do it without the crowds (or the carousel)in Feb.

Off to finish that bathroom now..if Alex will let me.

Morning ladies,

Sorry i've fallen behind again!

Come on for a bit of a hormonal moan really but I promise i'll catch up properly soon..

Floria - Great news on the slep, it must feel wonderful!

Muppet and Alicet, great to have you both back!

Muppet - Wow, that's early for a tooth, Dylan didn't get his first till about 10 months!

NC - Sorry youe sil is being such a pita, hope she gets brought down to earth a bit when the baby arrives .

I second what muppet said, you are amazing for all you manage to do on top of raising two children! Try your best to ignore sil, sounds like she has no idea!

WWAJC - Sorry you've hit another bad patch. Hope xmas goes ok and everything goes smoothly in the new year. You deserve to be happy

Ok, so my moan is a bit strange and quite . I accidentally descovered the other day that dh has been looking at porn on our computer, i'm not totally against porn, in fact in our earlier days we used to watch it together occasionally... It just came up in the title bar when I was typing in another site name. I searched the history and he mustn't be very good at covering his tracks cause I can see he's viewed about 20 different pages/clips on there over the last 3 weeks (doesn't go abck any further than that).

I haven't told him I know, I don't think he should stop but I just feel a bit insecure about it. I was just under the mistaken impression that he wasn't really that bothered about that kind of thing and the other reason I feel insecure is that I've almost totally gone off sex since becoming pg (we've done it twice in 28 weeks ) so I feel a bit 'replaced' for want of a better word . Since discovering this I have chatted to him about my lack of sex drive and assured him I still find him attractive etc but just don't feel in the mood that often when pg as my body is 'busy' doing other things. I did say to him however that i'm happy to do other stuff and we should make more of an effort to do this to keep the intimacy and that i've held off doing other 'stuff' so far as I don't want him to think we're going all the way then get dissapointed iyswim.

When we discussed this he said he was glad I brought it up and was happy with the 'offerings' so to speak . We even did stuff which actually led to sex (I was genuinely in the mood for once) the other night and I felt happy about this.

Anyway, I checked the history again today and it seems he looked at porn this morning before he went to work . I am open minded, i'm trying to be 'cool' about this and i'm not going to lie and say I never look at porn myself cause I do now and again but I just felt a bit hurt by this . I only chatted to him about it again last night and then he got up this morning and said something like 'i'm off, see you at lunchtime darling, you stay cosy in bed' and I thought, 'ahh that's nice' but now i'm thinking, no wonder he wanted me to stay in bed, he wanted to go downstairs and look at more porn

I think when I really think about it i'm not no bothered about the porn but the fact he's sneaking around to look at it. It makes me feel like he's not who I thought he was and as i'm feeling very hormonal and insecure at the moment it also makes me doubt how he feels about me...

Can you ladies make me feel better about this? I'm guessing someone at work told him about the site and he had a look and got hooked, he works in that kind of place, all men together... I guess I wish he'd just be more open with me about it feeling quite teary.