May 2007 - I beg of you... Come out, come out wherever you are Scoot.

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Now where are you Scoot?

She's really good thanks. She loves going and barely gives me a backward glance as she goes running in. She had Harvest Festival today and was on the stage singing. I got a bit teary eyed. She was by far the loudest (and most out of tune) child on there Everyone was giggling at her

Tills that is so cute! I would have sobbed

All the stress they give you! Little horrors.

Mine all watching Incredibles as we speak, B and B asleep. Vino GOOD!

Tilly too cute, dont stay away we are all whingy occasionally thats what we are here for.

LG&T I too know not what he did but am imagining the worst. Your children are a testament to your fabulous mothering skills.

AM try to take it easy a wee bit. I am assuming your DH is involved in some sort of gaming night. Hope you have headed to bed with a large bar of chocolate.

Charley, Tilly & PJ you will all be glowing with health at the spa.

Where is MrsJB & TYG??

Gin, you won't come now will you? MIL is normal. She's funny and great and loving and a fab friend. Just a little on the mad side.

On stage? Singing? I can't watch other people's children without sobbing, how do you hold yourself together? Come and whinge on here fgs woman. That's what we're here for. And my mother would have had a catheter bag thrown at her for such a fecking evil comment.

AM, will post the blanket I have crocheted for Lucy next week when dh gets paid. I'm so sorry it's late, it's just heavy and I suppose we'll miss the mail strike too.

Gin, will bring the one for Bluebell when I come for tea and a recount of my latest livejournal escapade.

PJ, I warn you, am crocheting for Lucas... Tilly, you and Rudi next... Charley you will be suffering the unique SOH gift too.

All emotional abuse, just of the worst kind. Very manipulative, deeply disturbing. He told them many lies, mostly so that they would hate me He is also neglected them pretty badly too when he had them.

I fucking hate him for what he has done to my precious boys.

Lovey they are with you now just think about that.

You can't crochet for others!!!!!

Course i will come, i will bring her new colour coded cloths that will better hers and introduce some systems of my own She will love me Oh yes she will.

Are you free next weekend SOH? I might come.

Have no dc till Sunday/Monday, well only the babies.

Yes. DH off weds, thurs, fri. Easier then as I don't drive but whenever. Come come come.

We can stay at MIL's! You can stay in SIL's old room (double bed) and I have a ready bed and a travel cot that the babies can use and they can be in with you. Alternatively B can sleep on the other side of the house and I'll sort him out in the night by encouraging him and M to draw on the shower screen with crayons. Ooh let's do it.

You having B is a given. Tilda will sort him out wont she?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Will check child collection date and come back to you. Am at mil next week. Probably Friday arrival. We can sqish in my car (will be poncy one as exp will have the tank)

Iam getting withdrawl symptoms of Tilda, her in her rockets set me off yestarday.

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Ta Jam Must come and see your mansion too.

AM is Lucy ok? Still packing it on?

Oh but she loves the rockets. Spinning round shouting about what a lucky girl she is to have a friend like Bicky. She'll sort B, show him exactly where the ILs keep their full sized drum kit (loud, very, very loud) and will no doubt drag him into the pond to look for 'frogpoles'.

Let me know, my door is open. Well it's not because it's cold and, er, the handyman painted it shut but the thought's there...

Thinking of you LG&T, hope court goes well on Monday.

Have been running around making the most of my last week of maternity leave.

Posting here to make sure this is still in threads I'm on, I need to watch for news of CM now don't I? How are you doing with plans for the birth? I really hope you can get your HB.

SOH that's so kind of you. MIL crocheted for the other two but didnt do anything for Lucy so am very pleased she will have her own special blanket

'frogpoles' love it!!!

Also i think that your MIL and my mum could be related! I was chuckling as thats what she used to make us do. The aim was to have a shower without anyone realising that the shower had been used and GOD help you if you missed a drip of water. In fact that's the only way that she knew that dh (obv not dh at the time, just bf) had stayed at hers whilst she was on hols. The water splashed higher up the shower than it would have done if i was showering and i hadnt dried the shower high enough - tsk tsk

LG&T you are in no way a failure as a mother. You are AMAZING (MOTY, dont you forget that). There is no way you could have prevented anything that knobhead did/said to J&S as you werent there. Will be thinking of you on Monday xx

Oi JAFFA where are you????

Lucy is doing well thank you, only gained 5.5oz this week, but that still makes her 10lbs 3oz at 5weeks!! Honestly i cant believe where 5 wks has gone, its total madness. She is still doing well with her sleeping and last night went from 7.30 to 3.30 in one go . She is smiling lots and her little head is just so strong.

J is having issues with a boy in his year which is making me a little This child has smacked him in the face and left a mark and then in the same day put mud down his t-shirt. The following day he tried to 'fight' J Have spoken to the teacher and they are going to keep an eye on it. I said to her that i know they are boys and also i know that J can give as good as he gets and that i could understand the smacking if they were play fighting BUT i dont understand how a teacher didnt spot the mud incident...... Upside to school though is that he is KNACKERED and sleeping for an hour longer at night and also not waking. He has also been dry at night for a month which is amazing

E has also had a good week - all week without any toilet accidents We had been going backwards and we had been resorting to pull ups as an easy option, but this week she has been dry

Tilly, Charley & Pink very of your spa day. Have a great time x

Scoot, how are things at work, with your FIL and on the curtain pole front?

JAM what happened about the climbing frame? Anymore news on dsis?

Friday was supposed to be FORZA night as the new game came out but dh wasnt feeling great so didnt bother. All the mechanics for our touring cars team had it and were all online playing. This means that dh is a day behind and has a lot of catching up to do LOL

OK I lied - I wasn't just teary eyed at Tils on stage - I sobbed horribly. At least I could blame hormones I suppose

Crochet sounds fantastic . Thank you.

I meant to ask you SOH how your PTSD counselling was going ? I saw you giving some very sound advice (as usual) on another thread and really hoped you were taking your own advice

Gin - a friend of mine is just going through hell at the moment with her ex. He locked her 3 year old in the bedroom and slapped her 6 year old during his last weekend of access but her solicitor is telling her there's not much she can do because he's entitled to see them . I am clueless about such things but I just feel so bad for her and her dd's. She's also going through cancer treatment atm as well. She's 25 and just seems so lost . I've told her to ask her solicitor about CAFCASS

Really looking forward to spa day - and meeting CM & PJ obviously. My SPD has been getting me down horribly and I also seem to have one ailment after another - tonsillitis, infected sinuses, headaches, tummy bugs, blah blah blah. I just start to feel slightly better and something else comes along. Anyway - I got fed up of hearing myself whinge, never mind anyone else. DH reckons he has earrache .

On the plus side, Tils seems to have sussed potty training pretty quickly. No wee accidents after day 1 and seems finally to be getting hang of poos in potty, albeit still reluctantly and requiring much cheerleading

Oh AM, tricky school situations, I dread them. Keep talking to them, hope it resolves soon and ds is okay. Lucy sounds wonderful. DD was a similar size, if not a wee bit bigger at 5 weeks and I remember it with such fondness. She didn't sleep though, what the heck is the secret to that? Lucy sleeps more than Tild does now!

Tils, CAFCASS can make or break a child residence/access case. A good CAFCASS officer is a wonderful thing. I don't believe for a second that a decent family solicitor wouldn't see the need for action to be taken in a case like you describe. Your poor friend. Do you have a surestart centre nearby? They are very good places for gaining information/support as a starting point. Local social services should be a good presence in surestart centres and contrary to terrible press, can and will help your friend.

Me? Counselling?

Would you like to talk about the birth?

When you look back, what stands out?

What would you like to achieve from these sessions?

How are you today?
Absolutely fine, thank you, with bells on.

Then home to cry in my cornflakes. Counselling not my thing.

Martha jeans might make me feel better...

TSM, while social services aren't actually about in my surestart centres, there should be people there who your friend can talk to - in my area each children's centre has a Family Support Worker attached. If she doesn't want her kids to be treated like this, Social Services should definitely support her if she gets in touch with them.

whispering incase anyone in RL is watching we are thinking about eloping the whole trying to organise everything thing is getting us down. What do you all reckon there will have to be a bit of style and beauty going on to help me get ready. Panic panic panic, excited

What a brilliant idea. Where are you going to elope to??? NYC? Bognor?

More details. Will you be working on a honeymoon baby too?

Oooo Jam, how wonderful . Where, when, how???? A honeymoon baby is a given.

Tils, I'm afraid I sob too, even when they are not my own children, especially when they are singing, with their sweet little tiny voices .

April, how wonderful is that baby of yours! What a great sleeper. So sorry to hear J is being a handful at home, it is more than likely related to what he is going through at school poor thing. Do they have a buddy bench where the children can sit and escape a child or go when they are on their own? The idea is that an older child then comes along and picks them up and gets them involved in something else. Does he know any of the older children who might keep an eye out for him in the playground? Dd certainly found that helpful.

Good luck today LG&T. Tough times for you all. I hope there will be some end in sight soon. Did you and SOH come up with a suitable plot? The mind boggles...

We have gone backwards in the potty training. Accidents everywhere, still pooing in the pants. This little bugger darling is messing us around. He is laughing too when he does it. He was sent to test me. He is going to be a special child. The upside though of a week at the beach is that he can swim on his own with no floaties. He is such a fish.

I ran a half marathon yesterday and my knee is a little sore today, but it was great fun and I was really pleased to have done it without walking. I managed about 2hrs 10. Charley thanks for your wishes, tell dh I ran through the knee pain .

Can you ladies with bumps remind me of your dates? Are you all on the final stretch?

Hope it all goes well today lg&t. Thinking of you all x

I hate the winter, no work, no money, no sun, blah, blah, blahdy boring!!! Not posting as too miserable but Love to you all.

LG&T is at her MIL's. Today was disappointingly inconclusive. Back to court in March for a review hearing. It's blardy interminable. Today I mostly wish I lived nearer to her and to PJ. It's no good. Move to Norfolk the lot of you.

TMAM, you're so clever. Just like ds2 the fish.

How disappointing for LG&T.

TMAM well done you.

Right then the hunt is on girls wedding outifts

Oh God I need to man up. Somebody slap me.

When your dh is working late what you do not do is watch a film that you admittedly adore but know will seep into your brain and leave you sobbing for hours. My head hurts with it all. And now I'm reading the book of the bloody film.

Pathetic. M is laughing at me singing Mummy the Red Nosed Reindeer.

I do not cry. Ever. I am ice woman, hear me roar.

Was it the Notebook ?