May 2007 - I beg of you... Come out, come out wherever you are Scoot.

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Now where are you Scoot?

Elkie - I am not up on birthday but C was born on 5 May - what date was D born?

Charley, I didnt get offered nor did i know about a 37 week scan.... Great news that you are measuring bang on for dates. I was worried about my size given i looked pg from the minute i pee'd on the stick! Just remember that this is the 3rd time you have done this so you have 'lax muscles' compared to when you were pg with A.

Lucy has been much better today and is almost back to her normal self. Used the electric pump for the first time today as i am going out tonight!!!!! I know that she probably wont wake up, but just incase she does dh has a 2.5oz supply to get him through. Not going far and will be home before 10.30 (which is the earliest she wakes). The town is buzzing tonight as Peter Andre is doing a PA at our local nightclub - dont see the attraction myself..

Charley - ooh you should come with dh (if its local to me) and we can eat cake and drink tea - you can have raspberry leaf!

Anyway, better go and get my heels on xx

Firstly AM sut up with your 'heels' talk. I am sure mine still wouldn't fit

CM i have had to do all that gumf before. Signing my life away on forms and having midwives come tentatively to the house for check ups. The last consultant i had gave me all manor of doomand gloom stories and lectured me on how irresposible i was, putting myself and my unborn child in danger blah, blah, blah...He was spouting statistics for scar rupture that i knew where bollox and he did too as he couldnot maintain eye contact.

Thw twins were a section, dd planned HB but transfered in as she was stuck. Ds#3 home, ds#4 home, B induction in hosp and dd2 home.

The Hb they kicked up so much about was ds4, the midwife who came in the end had no time to read any notes and knew nothing of my history. (he came in 40 minutes and she was only there for 25 of those)She visibly paled when she read them afterwards

I am sure you know your own body and would transfer the minute they asked you too. A more relaxed birth at home is just what you need after the twins birth. When i had dd after the twins i was desperate to stay at home because i wanted her all to myself. The twins hardly felt like mine until they came home. I didn't let her go even after the transfer. Do you feel like that?

In fact i don't think i put her down for weeks.

It is only recently i have considered the fact that she has Turners Sydrome and could potentially have been born at home. But obviously they did not pick up on that in the paed check after her birth anyhoo.

Ask me anything. I am used to being harrased about it by consultants and some snotty midwives. It is hard to stand your ground and you need dh on side. At one point the consultant was talking over me to dh pretending i wasn't even there trying to get him to agree to a hosp birth! Lovely man.

Sky dd1 (always her!) had a rushed A&E visit one night when she was about 2. She was screaming in pain and i thought it was her appendix. Turns out it was those glands in her tummy enlarged and causing her pain. She was on oxygen and looked v poorly for about 12 hours when she suddenly perked up. They discharged us the following evening and when we walked in the door (exp) had bought KFC and the twins were eating, she sat up at the table and polished off a load!!

I was cross as i had been so worried the night before! I seem to remember i was about 7 months pregnant with ds3 at the time too.

Soooo nasty things those glands! Hope she feels better soon.

Aplos for mammoth post!

Sky, D and Geordieminx's son C were both born on 4 May.

CM, no advice on HBAC, though I'm concerned that if I had any further babies I would be facing very interventionist consultant led care myslf, but it sounds like a step forward that you're being offered a chance of midwife led care, at least. That must have taken some persuasion on your part, well done. This has been something that the NCT has taken up and some branches have named contacts you can approach to discuss VBAC and HBAC, who will know something about local hospitals and health care etc.

Twas a good night!

lg&t Fast Forward is fab, A and I are hooked & we have both got into Trinity too.

((Charley)) Knowledge is power.

MmeJ, get ye here. I'll sweat the alcohol out of you. Which sounds like a lovely yet rude offer and isn't. Have floors you can scrub...

Unseen cat poo in house = walked into carpets = 2 hourse of scrubbing, bleaching and cursing = dinner neglected and cremated = Mathilda unattended = 2 broken fingers = no hot water for bath after aforementioned scrubbing = unhappy child = fairly stressed parent = why is there no chocolate in this house?

I neeeeeeeed sugar. It's too much. I have such tremblings and flutterins all over my body. Oh hang on, thought I was Mrs Bennett there for a minute, turns out I'm not. Hey ho.

Is Sailor Joe wending his merry way back?

Sorry I have not been around much this week, besides I haven't a clue what the feck you have all been talking about, you teenagers. [dinosaur emoticon]

Scoot, I am so sorry to hear all about your FIL and the dreadful care he is getting. I hope you've been up there and stamped your little foot this weekend.

Sky I hope DD is a little better? Dsis had her appendix out and was only allowed home yesterday, poor thing. I do think, however, she might milk the situation for a wee while.

Any news on your dsis Jam? How are the swings looking?

LG&T, children are much more resilient than we think. You are a great mum to P and I'm certain any anxieties she may have you will be able to explain away in your wonderful confident way.

Charley, fight your corner! If you think you can do it, go and tell them all you will do it your way. How did dh get on today? I've got 2 weeks til mine.

I hope you are managing to get a wee bit of rest April.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA about the poo Sorry. Pets are a pain in the arse. Although scrubbing floors is good for your arse and those bingo wings. You don't have those though do you?

Poor Tilda with the fingers, imagine the horrors mine endure while being neglected 24/7 Is she ok?

B was squeezing toothpaste directly in to his mouth a la sqeezy cheese today. Looks ok so far.

Sailor Joe just gone

Clean floors? Nah thanks. Choclate sounds like a good idea though, I'll send you some.

Fringes to cut..... tis for par deux, Indians this week.

PMSL..... it was the drink I was chucking in the plant pot!

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god cheap wine should be banned. tis not envy that is the colour of my face.

SOme news from my DSIS still no news on the cancer but she has just been diagnosed with 2 golf ball sized stones in her gall bladder, poor lovey.

Will catch up properly tom off to clean the house we have a cleaner starting tom and I need to make sure it is not a pig sty.

Jam I think our disgusting cheap wine hangovers scared them all away!

Love to your Dsis, poor thing she is going through it.

Blimey I mention hangovers and everyone runs for the hills.

Charley lovey any more news on HB. I would be too terrified of a home birth but I can understand the frustration at being told something is impossible. I agree with everyone else fight your corner and get some factiods up your sleeve to bamboozle them with.

SKY how is your DD?

SOH how is M's fingers?

LG&T did DH leave his cocktail making book behind I reckon tou could get the twins to become your barmen i his absence.

Poor old shmoks is proper poorly have had to take him to the docs he has tonsilitis and is now on antibiotics he is barely eating and everytime he has milk it pretty much voms straight back up. Its so sad he is never unhappy and all he wants to do is be cuddled or go to sleep. Archie of course is taking full advantage of mummy being occupied and is currently on his 4th hour of TV.

Well the cleaer was a disaster I dont know why we are bothering everytime we have had a cleaner well this is the 2nd time it goes wrong. They turned up 20 mins late then I went to the docs with shmoks and was gone 40 mins and somehow they managed to clean the entire house in that time. Now I know we dont live in meadow towers but it takes more than 40 mins to clean a house. Then when I showed them what I was unhappy with ie not cleaning the shower or hoovering the kitchen floor they seemed totally taken aback that I would want that done. back to doing it myself.

Whinge whinge whinge.....

Ooh hello Mrs JB you feeling better today?

Poor shmocks.. Lucky Archie

yeah feeling much better today, god I was crap yesterday, lol self inflicted so no sympathy really! Was out with the dancing gang, have to face them all at class toinght, hope I didn't play the fool

How about you?

I had a hangover too yesterday so wasn't around much!

DD2 fine I think. She made a remarkable recovery after having to take the non brand ibuprofen that she hates

Potty training a bit on and off. He is good in the house still but very rarely wears pants so can't go anywhere. He is very resistant to pants - even the new George pig ones!

Hope L is better soon Jam - its horrid when they are so ill x

We are still having crap nights sleep here with both C and L. L teething a we are so knackered that by the time he wakes us up he has already woken C! Tag team bed sharing most nights and no spare bed!

Glad you have all recovered from your various hangovers....

Sorry to see that L is poorly, i hope that he recovers soon xx

Forgot to say congrats and well done to MrsJB on your teaching xx

LG&T how are you holding up??

Had a lovely time on friday night only went to Pizza Express but was nice to go out. Dh was freaked out by the snuffling noises L was making but thankfully she didnt wake. In fact she woke up about an hour after i got back which was brilliant.

Dh went back to work today and it has felt weird not having him to chat to although it has been quite nice to start getting into MY routine. First up was getting L to sleep in her cot for daytime naps as i dont want her to get to the point where she is too big for the moses basket and hates the cot. Was very pleased that it went well. Nap one lasted 50mins, nap two lasted just over an hour and nap three was 1.5hrs but then i had to wake her up to get J&E as dh is at college tonight. She is now in her cot for tonight (see how it goes), so far been there for 2 hours fingers crossed she has a good night.

Oh and i moved out of her room last night! It was so nice to sleep in my own bed. The last time i was in there was the 17th Sept!!

Did everyone else have a good weekend? xx

Glad to hear Lucy is doing so well AM. SOmetimes its easier when they go back to work as you can get into the swing of things.

HAve heard from my sister. She has level 1 malignancy and the consultant has said he wants to monitor it for the time being as treatment would involve removing her cervix. SHe is going to speak to him again tom to get a clearer view on things. Luckily her company is happy for her to transfer her healthcare so she can be treated in SF rather than over here. SHe will also have her gall bladder removed in a couple of wks. Poor girl its crappy she is so far away just want to give her a big squeeze. Hopefully I will find out more tom when she has a bit more info.

Your poor sister - i really dont know what to say x

Sorry to hear about your sister Jam.

That doesn't sound like a very good cleaner. Even my tiny house would take more than 40 minutes to clean if it had been done properly regularly.

Jam i am so so sorry. It is a horrid thing cancer. The waiting for test results and metings with consultants are unbearable Does she have lots of support where she is living?

My brother has his first major check in half term week (2 weeks) and he is nervous. He is coming here for it so i can go too. We all have far too much experience of this balrdy nasty disease

I have everything crossed for her.

AM glad Lucy is being such a good girl for you Did she sleep in her own room ok?

I am holding up just fine ta Polyfiller lasts a few weeks, no?

That reminds me how is the curtain situation Scoot? How is dh and fil?

JAM have fingers crossed for your sister and also for your brother LG&T xx

Lucy did really well and slept in her cot last night. Didnt seem to bother her at all. Woke at 00.50, 3.30, 6 and then 7.30.

Cant believe how cold it has become and how quickly it went from being mild to blardy freezing! Tomorrow will require hats and gloves for the school run.

jam, sorry about your disis news....fingers crossed for her. lg&t is right, shit, shit disease!!!!!! As you know two very special people in my life fighting it hard atm

AM, Lucy is doing brill.... she's going to be a sleeper

Cold here too this morning, was 7° on the car this. sent h&M in cardi's, def coats tomorrow, they were cold in the playground this.

Too much to do today and not enough hours, glad to have fitted you lovelys in though.

this? wtf?

Sorry Jam .Love to you and yours.

I stamped my foot a great deal at the hospital and believed it had worked.However was wrong as they have discharged him today, even though his blood tests were concerning, he has massive bead sores (and the necessary pressure mattress and cushion wont be delivered to his house until Friday !!) and despite the fact the MIL is registered disabled and panicking like anything.Apparently they needed the bed and he 'wont be getting any better, so...'MIL has already been on the phone 4 times since 5pm asking me how to work a nebuliser and how to work an oxygen tank, and how to dress a bed sore.Blimey.

I may have to take some leave and go and help her out.Work is hellish however so dont even know if I can.I got in yesterday and was faced with so many things that had happened over the weekend that needed dealing with that I seriously considered just walking out again.

On the bright side was off today as CM had hospital appointment and the girls and I have had a lovely day.M and I went shopping for craft stuff for our big Halloween window display (which this year will serve the double function of being seasonal AND taking the place of the still missing curtains, cunning eh?)Bought lots of Christmas presents for stockings whilst there-I am the embodiment of organisation this year.[proud of self emoticon)We walked to school to get Lily and twas lovely, crisp and autumnal.We made buns, we went to the park and in between all that I did about 20 tons of washing.So at least now we've got some clean clothes.I didnt have to tell anyone off today at all, and in all seriousness I cant remember the last day that happened.

DH is STILL not home.All this talk of cheap wine is making me quite fancy a beer.I may have one and a Gold bar for good measure.Gold bars are the absolute don of wrapped biscuit bars IMO.They knock Penguins into a cocked hat!

Watcha Charley..Hey do you fancy a visitor at some point?I wont be up this wknd as working but maybe the next one?Would love to see yer bump.

Hows DD SKY?

L sounds like a stat AM!

I LOVE Flash Forward.I find it quite unsettling though for some reason.Think its the little girl-she freaks me out a bit.Im no TV critic though, lets face it.Am currently watching Peter Andre-The next chapter, avidly

Big wave to everyone else.