April 2009 - Chapter 4 - Rollin, rollin, rollin............and they are over but the arm is stuck

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12 Feb: Skiingone: MARIANNA 4lb 4oz
20 Feb: Glaskham: RUBY MARIE 4lb 3oz
04 Mar: Barbarella: ESTELLA, ROSANNA, OTIS
05 Mar: Kazkiss: ISABELLE FLORENCE 4lb 6oz & OLIVER THOMAS 3lb 7oz
15 Mar: Babypringle: OSCAR WILLIAM 7lb 2oz
28 Mar: Claireykitten: VIOLET ROSE 7lb 9oz
31 Mar: Mumblemum: ORSON XERXES
02 Apr: Oddeyes: ELEANOR 9lb 8oz
03 Apr: Bleuravin: MEGAN LILLIAN CONSTANCE
03 Apr: Bumpalump: JACOB 8lb
04 Apr: BabyBolat: KARAHAN 6lb 5oz
05 Apr: Mrsfossil: ISLA LILIAN 7lb 10oz
05 Apr: JumeirahJane: MILLICENT ROSE 5lb 15oz
06 Apr: BoffinMum: FELIX DAVID GORDON 7lb 9oz
08 Apr: girlylala0807 JAMES EUAN
11 Apr: SpringySunshine: GEORGE NATHAN 8lb 15oz
11 Apr: RachelinScotland: CLEMENT JAMES 8lb 14oz
11 Apr: Lou031205: ISLA SOPHIA 7lb 9oz
11 Apr: Electra: ISABELLA CAROLINE 6lb 3oz
11 Apr: AuldAlliance: ALEXANDRE 7lb 6oz
12 Apr: Phdlife: Name TBA GIRL 9lb 3oz
12 Apr: BethDivine: Name TBA GIRL 9lb 9oz
13 Apr: MathsMummy27: AMELIA CHARLOTTE
14 Apr: Purlease: ADAM 9lb 2oz
15 Apr: Juwesm: HUGO GEORGE 9lb 2oz
15 Apr: Bronze: ISAAC JOHN
15 Apr: HeidiT: HEIDI
15 Apr: Kalikaroo: Name TBA BOY 8lb
15 Apr: Minush: ZAFIRAH ROSA 7lb 12oz
15 Apr: FatandFedup: EMILIA ROSE 7lb 6oz
16 Apr: PuzzleRocks: HOLLY ELIZABETH 8lb
16 Apr: Brettgirl: HANNAH GRACE 6lb 15oz
16 Apr: ReallyTired: Name TBA GIRL
17 Apr: DungunGirl: ADEN LEE 9lb 4oz
18 Apr: Staryeyed: Name TBA BOY 7lb 11oz
18 Apr: Dawntigga: SAMUAL 5lb 11oz
20 Apr: LuLuBai: SEBASTIAN 9lb
20 Apr: Swaliswan: BETH 7lb 9oz
21 Apr: Kittycatisgettingfat: GABRIELLA AUDREY BIANCA
21 Apr: B52s: SAM MARTIN 7lb 9oz
21 Apr: Schulte: HAZEL LOIS 7lb 9 oz
21 Apr: Mrsgboring: EDMUND 8lb 12oz
23 Apr: Tristaleejac: LEWIN 8lb 4oz
23 Apr: NuttyTaff: TIAHNA SKYE 8lb 8oz
23 Apr: Purplemonkeydishwasher: ISLA ELIZABETH 8lb 14oz
24 Apr: Soon2befamilyof4: TALIA 7lb 6oz
26 Apr: Carameli: THEO LAURENCE 7lb 6oz
26 Apr: Surprisenumber3: EVIE ANNE 8lb 2oz
26 Apr: Bicnod: OSCAR MATTHEW 8lb 1oz
27 Apr: Lauren61: OLIVER STEPHEN 7lb 7oz
27 Apr: Gingersarah: VERONICA ROISIN 9lb 1oz
30 Apr: MegBusset: ARCHIE 8lb 15oz
01 May: Satheresitting: Name TBA BOY
03 May: Conkertree: Name ANGUS ANDREW 8lbs 8oz
06 May: Frekkles: HARRIS MERLIN 8lb 5.5oz
07 May: TarteTatin: ALBERT JOHN
10 May: Ilovesummer: Name TBA BOY

SAW a thread on that.

Feier, does she feed properly when she feeds at night? Or is it more to send her to sleep?
Does she have a dummmy?
I have fobbed A off with a dummy before in the middle of the night, which he sooks on for about 5 seconds before falling right back to sleep.
Does sound a bit as if she hasn't got her nocturnal/diurnal rhythms sorted out and I don't know what the solution is for that.

I'm not listening to DS1, don't worry! I am just trying hard to be patient with him as everything becomes horribly complicated when he is involved...Alex seemed v happy for an hour at the CMs, and smiled and looked chirpily at everyone while I was away, apparently, and drank most of a little bottle of EBM. It will be harder when she tries to get him to sleep, I think, but it was a v encouraging and guilt-free start. Though my heart was heavy as we walked away leaving him there.

No, she does feed properly at night. More so than during the day. Sigh. I am hoping this is not the sequel to those weeks of having her day/night confused when she was tiny.

I am planning to try and space her night feeds out to 4 hourly to start with... i.e. I will make her wait for her feeds when she wakes up. Dummy has worked once or twice but I have thrown them away now and am not going back there.

Could it be the 4 month growth spurt still Feier? Orbit was very wakeful for a patch like that. Or teeth?

Orbit has settled down to two feeds a night now - one at 10pm and one about 3-4am, but he was behaving like H and waking up every couple of hours for a while.

Hello beautiful April mums... I'm back

FINALLY got the laptop to replace the one that I poured tea all over so I'm back in the land of the living. Thank god. I felt so cut off it was ridiculous - I'm clearly addicted to the internet and MN in particular.

SOoooooooooooooo... its beeen so long since I posted I can't possibly catch up, but just wanted to say Gui - really really don't beat yourself up. I know that's easy to say and hard to do because being a mummy is all about the guilt, but you have done your absolute best for your little one and are continuing to do so. As everyone else has said, if he was starving he would have let you know - he's a happy little thing and beautiful and has a truly devoted and wonderful mummy who has put herself through it for him and should be proud of herself.

Also, who is Feierabend? Assuming a name change - are you on FB? Can you post there? I'm all confused...

Oscar is just 4 months and we started the baby rice two days ago because he was demanding more feeds (every 2 hours during the day and every 3 hours at night) which was killing me - he's HUGE... getting him weighed tomorrow so will let you know just how huge, but 4 weeks ago (so just over 13 weeks) he was 17lb 6oz, which is over the 98th percentile. I just can't keep up with him. So I've gone through the guilt as well as I really really wanted to hold off until 6 months but he's just so hungry. Anyway - he LOVES it. First time I gave it to him he was grabbing the spoon and jamming it in his mouth and banging his fist on his highchair for more every time he swallowed a mouthful!

I'm seeing the health visitor tomorrow (third set of jabs hate it) and I know she's going to tell me off. ARgh.

Anyway - sorry for the ME ME ME post... as I said, too bloody much to catch up on but I'll be on often again now so will get back into the swing of it...

I've missed you guys

x x x

WTF is wrong with giving formula or solids at 4 months? Generations of kids were on the end of this and have survived!!!! Including three of mine.

The WHO surely has complex reasons for issuing the 6-month exclusive bf guideline, to do with global health sociology and politics impacting on issues such as hygiene, formula marketing, and so on. I am sure the intention is not to force middle class mothers in Britain with clean homes and large babies to stay awake at night worrying if they are effectively poisoning their offspring by giving a bit of formula, baby rice or the odd banana. Seriously.

Chill people.

BTW hello Bicnod, and good to see you back.

Fuck me, Felix is CRAWLING on his mat!!!!
My children are usually disabled!!! They don't do crawling. He might actually be ... gulp ... NORMAL!!!!!

Thanks Boff I know you're right... (and your post made me giggle). The guilt is definitely lessened by the fact that O loves it so much...

Apparently I was weaned at 8 weeks () and my mum and dad have been on my back to wean Oscar since he was 8 weeks as he's always been a hungry baby and a crap sleeper... Quite proud I held out until 17 weeks with that sort of peer pressure

CRAWLING?!!! bloody hell... that's amazing! how old is he now?

Sometimes I think I'm the only person who's ever actually read the WHO guidelines.

To sum up, they are:

1. It does no harm to wait till 6 months in terms of iron status and general nutrition

2. Breastfeeding for six months exclusive reduces the incidence of gastrointestinal infections in babies (essential in developing countries, of lesser concern here)

3. Breastfeeding for six months exclusive reduces the incidence of female cancers in mothers (the major benefit for mothers in developed countries)

There is actually a clause in the review saying that individual babies may need different treatment and this is not a contraindication to giving food early.

The way it's talked about on here you'd think it was the new religion or something. It's NOT

Would link so you can read for yourselves but I've left E propped up watching the Simpsons so you'll all have to take my word for it

Helloooooo Bicnod nice to have you back. Alex regurgitated milk on my laptop so the 'c' key is iffy and I keep having to double check for typos, so I can sympathise.

Had a crap afternoon, was knackered as didn't sleep v well last night (me, not Alex), and DS1 was manically hyper and annoying. I blew my top when he woke Alex up after I had just painstakingly got him to go to sleep. Then we had a long chat and he reiterated his feeling that I no longer look after him, I only look after Alex. And tonight as I was putting off his light he said, "When I am Daddy's age, if I have a little girl or a little boy I will pass (his French way of saying 'send') more time with them than you do with your children and I won't go out to work." Talk about a guilt trip...

Boff, crawling? That is not normal, that is superhuman!

Crawling? Not bad. But sounds like he's not the only one on here!

We're off to Germany for the weekend. Will have to leave the house at 6am, aaaargh, and the flight with 2 dcs will be interesting. At least I'll have the easier one to look after while DH deals with DD1!

Have a good weekend everyone xxx

Auld, it was not proper crawling, but actually a sort of slithering towards the curtain on his belly, with arms moving in a crawling fashion, getting some purchase on his biffing mat as we call it (i.e. baby gym thing). But I was impressed nonetheless. He was pleased because he reached the curtain and was able to have a jolly good chew of it.

Alex is just a little jealous. I would not be too bothered or feel too guilty. But methinks from time to time it might be nice to have a little outing to a cafe with just you and him, and a whopping great ice cream could be involved. Just a thought.

bicnod over on the naughty spot for ages for being guilty about how you feed your child. Don't argue get on the naughty spot!!!!

MrsB would you join me in banashing guilt around here?

NotGoingToFeelGuiltyAboutWhatSheFeedsSamTiggaxx

Have a nice time, Feier. Whereabouts are you going?

Boff, Felix's achievement is still v impressive. A has begun lifting his bum and trying to get his legs going, but in vain. Shall have to babyproof the stairs pdq.

DS1 is indeed transparently and pitifully jealous. The café idea is a good one. I think that as I have some free time this year, due to my 80% workload, I'll try and take him out for lunch occasionally. I thought he'd be pleased at having an hour for just the 2 of us this morning when we left Alex at the CM's, but he was so sad on A's behalf that it didn't seem to have that effect.

He has taken to asking me to buy him things whenever we go in a shop, as if he were anxious to be reassured by material demonstrations. It got so wearing that I told him to stop asking for stuff all the time. His new line is, 'Mummy, if I don't ask you, can you buy me a ...?'

Hi everyone, glad to see I'm not the only one weaning

E has had a bit of food last 3 days and I have to say is loving it, she is feeding from me more often (thirsty perhaps?), but not for as long. She is also sleeping through again (yippee!), and has been going to sleep in her cot on her own. Bless her

She seems to have really grown up last week or so. Not crying as much, sleeping better, really alert and interacting during the day, real little character, it's lovely!

Finally got my child benefit through - should I get the CTF form through now then?

Ok ok... no more guilt

no, no baby rice here.

She has had a steamed pureed pear and some pureed potato and cauliflower. She will also take EBM in a sippy cup, not enough to be a substantial food, but enough to give her a little drink after her food. It must be teats she doesn't like, eg bottles and dummies.

Tigga I was actually going to propose a fines sytem - serious breaches of the no-guilt rule will require the mother in question to purchase and consume chocolate (we should draw up a table of fines giving the number of grams for each specific guilt offence)

Proper catchup tomorrow. Am supposed to be clearing up kitchen while DH minds E (I have already eaten my guilt penance chocolate today and then some)

Yup, Boff, he's not the only one. Holly is shuffling forward on her arms with her knees fully up and doing one-two. It's insane, I keep expecting her to stand up now and ask to borrow the FT from me.
Apologies to those who have already heard me say this three times. Yes I am STILL banging on about it.
Is Felix quite lithe? I think skinny babies find it easier sooner. Having said that I have no idea if she is big or small since I haven't bothered having her weighed since she was 8 weeks old.

Fei - I hope the weather is better than you expected. Have a lovely time.

Oh and by the way, about half the food Edmund has had so far has been shop bought from a packet. About 200g worth of guilt there don't you think.

Hotel Chocolat - mmmmmmmmmmmm

I suggest 'April 2009 - Chapter 5 -The one where no-one feels guilty (except about all the chocolate)'.

Back later when I have more fingers to type with.

xxx