July 09 - Sore ladybits and melons for tits! [grin]

[Quiltedrose]

Ok so there's only 2 of us so far but felt duty bound as the first July delivery to start the thread off!

'Pop' in when you're ready!!

Hi chellebelle
Sounds like you've done well to hold it all together for 6 weeks, especially as it's been the summer hols and yours are all so young. I have an occasional meltdown that sounds exactly like yours where I strop round the house and the DC's have learnt to take cover (they're a bit older than yours)!! Think I've only had one since DC4 was born, but it's only a matter of time It just made me laugh that you sounded exactly like me - you're not alone

Morning Jet Li
Wasn't ignoring you, just crossed posts as my typing is so slow!
Glad to hear you're having a chilled out day and that Hetty survived her jabs. Did she end up with dribbles of calpol all down her front or was that just me...?!

chellebelle your life could be mine

Today has been a crazy day. I must be completely mad to try and take the LO's to the park on my own. Its a good half hour walk from home. We get to the park after I let DD2 walk for a portion of the way (I have a double stroller). As soon as I start pushing her in the swing, baby starts crying! So I take her out (she starts kicking and screaming), give her some sand toys to make her happy, and whip out the boob for the boy. He nurses, then spits up the entire feed over my shoulder as I try to burp (while at the same time my DD decides to spill the juice box all over me and her). Good thing I brought my baby wipes! I plunk the baby into the stroller, clean everyone up, and try to feed him again on second boob while DD plays in the sand. She decides to run out of the park, so I have to put the boob away, and chase her since she doesnt listen when I call her. Baby starts screaming as a result. Get back to the bench, give up on BBs and pop a bottle into his mouth. Put DD back on swing while feeding DS. Put him back into stroller (crying) and forcefully remove DD from swing as I have now had enough! Both are in stroller screaming as I walk home. Thank GOD they both went to sleep about 10 minutes later. And this is just the START of my day today!!! If only you could hear the noise in my house right now! ARGGHHH!!!!!!

WHO told me to go and have a 4th!!! LOL. Its only a good thing that I got a good night sleep (baby slept from 8pm-2am, ate, back to sleep until 6am, ate, up at 7:30am), so my patience was recharged.

Waiting for DH to get home from work so I can get out of the house ALONE for bit! Either that, or drown myself in ice-cream (which is NOT a good idea since I have at least 2 stone to lose from last 2 babies!!).

Sounds like a fun morning babyblue

Very small moan of the day:
Why is it that whenever DS4 cries when we're out, someone will always say in a very authoritative way - "He needs feeding"?
I really want to reply "Oh do you think so, I hadn't thought of doing that!"
Then I want to shout really loudly "Babies do cry for reasons other than food you know and sometimes they cry for no apparent reason at all!"

Aaargh!

Instead I take a deep breath,count to 3, calmly smile and say "Maybe"...so far anyway!

JLo2 - that is so true!!! If someone else can't settle Jess it wouldn't be because she wants her nappy changing, or that she's overtired or just that she wants someone to walk round with her - it'd be far too logical for them to try those things themselves, just give her back to her mum it must be a feed she needs!!!

Babyblue - what a nightmare!!! I can so imagine that being me! You were very brave to do the trip to the park on your own in the first place!!! Have done a trip into town on my own but 2 of them stay strapped in or on me and my eldest is a grown up 9 year old so is actually quite helpful when we're out and about (not always so great when we're at home but at least he behaves around other people!). Do you have a sling for DS? Was quite proud of myself the other week as managed feed Jess whilst walking around Hatton Country World with her in the sling and you couldn't see a thing (DH had a good check for me and in fact was very impressed as he couldn't quite work out how it was working - skills!!!). I'm so pleased with my sling - it is very definitely one of the best purchases I have made over the four kids (along with the P&Ts).

Glad I'm not the only one that strops around , am working on getting DD1 to stop geting into fights with DS2 and getting her to come to me instead. It's not working so far but I'm sure persistance is key. Anyone got any tips on getting 2 and 3 year olds to stop arguing? Sometimes they play so so well together but other times they spend the whole time getting at each other and DS2 is going through a biting phase at the moment so if he's losing in the argument he starts biting DD1 which then escalates the screaming ten fold.

Have got 6 week check tomorrow, has everyone sorted out contraception yet? Am thinking I'll go for the injection as have discovered you can have this whilst breastfeeding, think DH is going for the snip too so hopefully we'll be covered on all bases!

JLo - I agree. People always want to hold the baby and coo over the baby, etc, until he cries! Then he is promptly given back and I am told to feed him! Its just an excuse! The person holding him has tried to calm him and FAILED, therefore he must need food! LOL

Chellebelle - I have and infant carrier, but not a sling. Thats a great way to multi-task though... lol. I could just see myself... shopping with a toddler, 2 older children, and one suckling away at the boob... lol. The looks I would get!!! Must look into those! Any brand in particular that is recommended?

Had a better day today. Picked a park closer to home, so of course both babies were behaved today. My DH thinks I am a glutten for punishment that I keep attempting. My whole reasoning is, I would rather be out than stuck at home listening to them cry. At least the fresh air makes them sleep better. Right now, both are down for naps, the older 2 are at school, and I can eat lunch in peace!

Oh... and as far as Birth control goes... I have finally convinced hubby to go for the snip. We are just waiting for doc to call him with the appointment. The pills give me bad headaches, so I don't want to go that route, and I am not getting tubes tied. It makes my AF so heavy and painful. To clarify... I had my tubes done a few years back, and got pg with my 3rd a year later! Was then able to get pg again (ended in MC in Oct 08) and then AGAIN with DS2. LOL. So I am done and its DH's turn!

Jlo2 That is so true!!! I can't tell you how many times I have been put with Max when he is screaming for no other reason than having a good scream and people stare at me like I am an awful mother and that I sohould be feeding him. Don't they realise that of course I have tried and he isn't hungry...silly sods. (Can you tell I have had a bad day!!)

Max has been hard work today, no sleep last night for some weird reason and no sleep today....I am hanging! Just off to express some milk and then curl up on the sofa for a kip before it all starts again.

Slings - I have just bought myself a new one as I needed a spare - one on one in the wash here the red stripe one if anyone wants to know! I am very proud of myself as on tuesday I managed to get on the bus and pay for my ticket whilst holding ds1's hand and BF DS2 in the sling 1st time I have managed it and no one seemed to notice - brilliant!
Handing back for feeds - yes this def happens here - "I can't settle him he must be hungry"
babyblue - your park episode could have walked straight out of my life
Glad the kids are back in school. DS1 had his 1st day in nursery today and he wasn't potty trained but they said to send him in pants and see how he got on. Well it was like a miracle apart from dribbles he has been dry and in the same pair of trousers till 5pm tonight - result! Lets hope he does as well tomorrow. [hmmm]
Sleep- I am one of the lucky ones. Alfie goes down about 7/8 usually feeds at 10/11 then once between then and 6.30 when he gets up. I have to keep him awake from 4 onwards though or else he won't go down. This in turn means he has to nap between 2 and 4 which is sometimes difficult as I haven't yet discovered a foolproof way of getting him to sleep. (I think he is the only baby in the world who doesn't go straight to sleep in the car / pram?)
birth control - I am now on the mini pill but DH wants to try for DC4 now... I think seeing I am the one at home with them all day I should make that decision.
Gosh - I can't get on here for ages then when I do I write a mammoth post

Slings - this is what I have. I absolutely love it!! Use it around the house when she doesn't want to lie and play and point blank refuses to sleep. Also use it for the nursery run, knowing that DD1 gets tired after nursery and won't always walk all the way without whinging and have used it tons for shopping etc too. Am very impressed at your getting on the bus whilst feeding and holding DS1's hand - now that is skill!!!

Queenfee - your DH wants to start for no. 4 now??? Yes that very definitely is your decision!! I had a broody moment the other day where I thought I might want more children in the future - I always find it odd thinking that at nearly 30 this will be the last time I that I was pregnant and gave birth etc, especially as I seem to be quite good at that bit but there is no way on this planet that I would want any more this soon! I guess even if they ended up being less than a year apart queenfee, they'd still be in separate school years

Babyblue3 - Well done on a more successful trip today - definitely agree with you that being out and about is better than being stuck in. Have taken the easy option over the last couple of days chucking them out in the garden for the late afternoon where they are at their most whingy. Might start doing similar though and braving the park on my own too. Will see how it goes.

WOW!! BF while getting on the bus! Hehe... MY DH drives a bus... must tell him to keep an eye out for that trick!! LOL

I can honestly say I have not had a broody moment yet and DS2 is 6 weeks old. The only thing I get sometimes is sad moments when I realize that I will not be preg every again. But I will not say never... since the last time I said that I ended up with 2 more DCs!! LOL. Can you imagine??? I was 25 and 26 when I had my first 2 and was pretty happy with that. Made the difficult decision to get fixed, then end up preg a year after the surgery. I was 34. Thank goodness it failed now and not when I was 40! After DD2 was born, I was immediately broody and thats how DS2 came along. How many DCs do you ladies have? Sounds like you all have more than 2 (which is def the norm here).

Those slings are fab!! I have seen them at baby shows here in Canada, but never tried one out for comfort. Do your shoulders or back hurt wearing them?

So today I had my first scare with Marco. He was swaddled and sitting in his bouncy chair (not fastened in since I figured he wasn't going anywhere ). DD2 came along and decided to try and rock him/chair, and ended up toppling the whole seat over. Baby landed on the ceramic tile with the chair on top of him. He let out one yell, but didnt cry. Scared the hell out of me. Thank goodness he didn't seem to have bumped his head (no bumps or bruises). Was very annoyed with DH, since he was in the room at the time and just was not paying any attention to DD2. She got frightened when I yelled out, which will hopefully teach her to not touch the chair again. Arghhh!

hi all! its been a bit quiet on here over the weekend!
slings i've got a moby one, a ring sling and a hotslings pouch one, the only one ive sort of been able to breast feed in is the ring one, cant manage it in the moby, not sure if it sbecause of my mahooosive boobs! i feel like i have to lift them up to feed he he!
babyblue dd is a little bugger for bouncing Bill in his seat, you tell her gently, next through you know his heads bouncing off the seat with her saying 'look mummy im a good helper!' bless her.
had a frantic weekend with me thinking bill wasnt feeding, (is in the breast and bottle feeding under 10 week old wont feed) dont want to bore you with all the details but bill wasnt feeding. didnt even register with me it might have something to do with his (late!!) vaccinations last tuesday!
anyway hope everyoen is ok! just a quick post between the breaks of miss marple wahoo!

I have 3 children now I said no more after DC2 and along came Alfie so I will never say never again! I always said I would have 2 or 4 as I was one of 3 and always felt one of us got left out. So I am going to have another its just a question of when... I am really lucky as Alfie is such a placid baby my other 2 definately were not! I am not brrody yet but would like to have them fairly close together so that the age gap between the oldest and youngest is small enough to mean we can go places that interests them all IYSWIM?
Breastfeeding in the sling was a bit of a fluke TBH I have never managed before when trying but he started o cry whilst waiting for the bus - I just popped him on and wahay it worked!
blue your other half is ok - I live in wales were no one would notice unless you were carrying sheep in the sling
DS is rather rough with Alfie too he like to kiss him too hard so he pretends to be nice kissinghim but presses so hard on his head it hurts he also likes to poke prod pinch him whenever I turn my back. Any advice gladly appreciated.

Just a quick hi.

Queenfee I can't believe you are already thinking about no 4. Sex is still off the menu for us. As a mother of 3 now, I do get concerned about the odd number.
What was the age diff w/you and ur siblings? What gender is everyone? Did that make a difference? I do get concerned about it.

Outings to parks with 2 or more I just can't do it. DS1 is fine (he is 4) but DD is 2 and wants me to follow her everywhere and still not big enough for some of the climbing frames....with DS2 now I just get all frazzled. I must get the courage really.

Lydia how is the feeding? If it is still iffy can you attend a group this week? If not do you have the money to get a lactation consultant over to your home? I found one on www.expressyourselfmums.co.uk They have a list of registered ones and it was the best £60 I spent when DS was 3 days old. Feeding is finally getting better with us. Still not 100% but not nearly as toe curling as usual. At 10 weeks this is the longest I have bf without introducing formula to the mix. I am still taking it each week as it comes.

DS1 starting reception tomorrow I am excited and scared. I think I am going to cry.

sorry only skim read posts. just back from 4 days in n wales. lovely weather. great caravan. dd2 very obliging on days out though still screams after 5 minas in car seat. am i alone in this? dd1 just used to fall asleep. dd2 dedicated tummy sleeper. maybe that's got something to do with it. hope evertyone ok. got a stinky cold. thought i's avoided catching it off dc but no. ill just as they are better. first day nursery for dd1 tomorrow. off to optometrist today. scuse typing. one handed

Hi all

Hope you're all doing ok!

Things are great here, Summer is still sleeping through. She hawful excema though, some of you suggested Oilatum and I am getting some today the bath stuff and a cream, doc just gave me something called Hydrocream which is an emolient. Poor babe has it all over her face and neck and tummy! She never cries ever apart from for a feed, she doesn't cry when she wakes up and a lot of the time I see the signs she hungry before she cries to tell me, however the other day she suddenly started screaming, SO loudly as I was just getting her milk, then she refused the bottle and carried on wailing, she was going stiff and throwing herself round. Horrid, I thought this is what babies with Colic must be like - an hr of this and then she fell asleep just cos she'd exhausted herself I think. This happened 3 days in a row so took her to docs but nothing obviuos like ear/chest inf or temp. Doc said she could be starting with something or it could be her skin!! Would hate to think of it being the skin hence me giving these Oalitum products a go. The cream from docs is working but it still looks pretty sore.

Anyway re - screaming maybe she was just having a bad few days...feel sorry for the one's of you where it is the norm to have a noisy baby!

slings Never had one, got a Baby Bjorn carrier but I hardly use it as the weather is always poo, very good when I have used it thoug.

more babies DP said the other day he can imagine Summer getting to ABOUT 14 MONTHS THEN WANTING ANOTHER.!!!!This terrifies me, we rent and neither of us have paticularly well paid jobs and Im not even going back to work...the thought of going from 2 to 3 scares me, is is a lot of hard work???

I'm still learning to drive and have booked my thoery test for the next few weeks so fingers crossed.

Still loosing weight, I've lost 12bs so far in about 6 wks and thats with going campping and not doing the diet and also a fair few takeaways and way too much wine! Happy so far but as of today back on the diet properly!

Hope all goes well with school today MissPaella - my nephew started last week and today will be the first school dinner (they do a staggered start affair at his school - mornings last week, mornings and lunch this week and then full days from next week). Unfortunately its chicken curry on a prison-style tray today so the poor little blighter might be put off for life!
All hail to those of you with more than 1 ankle biter - it's hard enough with just the 1! We are also contemplating No. 2 at the moment purely based on our advanced age . DP is 46 and I'm 38 plus it took us 5 years to get caught with this 1. But we haven't made a decision yet... Maybe after Christmas.
Bummer - I forgot to record Miss Marple - we were at MIL's until late.
slings - aww those pictures are lovely Quennfee! I've got the Close and also picked up a second hand Baby Bjorn as well to try - but we haven't used them a great deal yet. I did manage to peg out washing using the Close sling I think I should have started sooner with them so that she was more used to being in it as she seems a bit bewildered when I put her in them. I shall persevere as I think it will be great to use one over the winter - it will keep us both warm
We're loving the grobags in this house now. Used a travel one for the first time last night in the car on the way home from MIL's house - twas fab. She was toasty warm and slept all the way home . Then she just had some boob and straight into bed when we got in.
BF also suddenly more comfortable here too. And actually faster as well I think. It used to take 40 minutes to an hour for us, but we seem to be done and dusted in 20 minutes now. Bit of a bummer, that, as I was ploughing through books on the longer feeds . Really feeling the benfits of the BF on the chilly mornings now - I can just snuggle her in with me and don't have to get out of bed and Daddy traditionally does the morning nappy before toddling off to work.
Anyone heard from hunny? Hope she's OK.

evening! missp feeding is back on track, think his injections hit him hard. he's fine now but still being sick after his feeds. hope your ds got on well at his first day!
morebabies not a chance! we only live in a2 bed house and cant afford to sell! im having the implant put in on wed, im so scared its going to hurt! i can give birth, get tattooed but the thought of this curls my toes!
well done on the weight loss gillyan ive started my diet again with a vengeance yesterday! i even walked the 2 1/4 miles to town with baby and dd COME ON!

hunny seen bits on FB.

lydia well done , go for it!

I've had a bad diet day today, 2 curly wurly's bag of chilli doritos' 2 pieces of flapjack I made with DD1! Oh well there's a;ways tomorrow!!

losingweight I haven't lost any still a stone over weight but hey - I'm not trying
agegaps I was the baby my sis was 4 years older than me and my brother 2 years older than that. I do want to have them close together as I personally think it will be easier in hte long run. In some ways it would be nice to get it over and done with before i'm 30 then I can enjoy(?)40's with just teeagers!
ali all of my babies hated thei car seats till I put them into a bigger rear facing one (the birth to 4 yr types) they were all quite big so maybe just felt squashed. Alfie doesn't cry just winges about being in his which is slightly bigger than average (up to 13kg) so maybe that is why. They are all tummy sleepers though interestingly - maybe there is a link hadn't thought of that?

Gillyan well done on the weight loss. I still haven't lost any and feeling gutted about it BUT I refuse to diet. Hey ho, then really. I am going to spin after I feed Tristan in a mo'.

Tummy sleeping Tristan LOVES it for his naps but on his back for night time (from 11pm). I think it settles his tummy? We are quite bad and let him nap on our bed (no pillows and duvets of course) and sometimes if my other 2 are occupied by DH I go in there with him. I given up on thinking my bed is for adults only. All my children have napped in there or come in for a snuggle in the morning.

Babyblue it is hard to watch over the older DC's and not get cross when they hurt our new LO's. Mine want to cuddle DS2 all the time but can be quite rough so I have watch them like a hawk but I try and pull back a bit as I don't want it to become an issue for them (and jealousy or resentment rear its head...) I tell you something, our LO's will be tough cookies for sure.

I was wondering about Hunny too.

Jetli Lydia yah for better feeding!
Spkg of which better go do.

Oh Queenfee before I forget can I ask you how you got on with being young mum? I take it you had your first LO in your early 20's?

I only ask as my lil sis (22yrs) is having her first in Feb. It was an "accident" but she and her bf have decided they want to keep it and it is a blessing. She is at Uni and lives about 20 min drive from me but we are 12 years apart in age. I just wondered if you have any tips/advice. She is so excited but has no peers in the same situation.

x

he he, have just been watching dd try and breast feed her glow worm. she didnt think i was watching!! apparently her left boob was no good but the right one was better ha ha!