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waitinggirl · 15/06/2009 08:01

i hope people don't mind, i took the bull by the horns and did it. title a bit naff, but more important the thread exists rather than search for a better title. hope i haven't stolen anyone's thunder...

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tillyfernackerpants · 28/06/2009 14:50

spot sorry T is unsettled, the heat does probably have a lot to do with it! We put ds2 into a summer weight sleeping bag with just a vest on, & we have an aircon unit as well just for a couple of hours. During the day, I try to leave his nappy off as much as possible.

mom glad you're enjoying work a little, it must be a bit of relief to know you have family looking after him?

kayz Did ds1 get to the castle? I would definitely recommend CP, you'd get to use your bikes loads as its the quickest way to get around! And both boys loved the swimming pools so much, we kept having to bribe ds1 to get him to leave!

zj you do have a very clever dd there! Ds2 keeps rolling to pick up pizza leaflets, not sure if he's trying to tell me something

I did the 5k today, 45mins . Was good fun though very very hot. Thank you to everyone who sponsored me, I raised £80 in the end!

Kayzr · 28/06/2009 14:54

He did Tilly!! He did really well. He got a bit grumpy on the way home and is now fast asleep. He asked us to leave him at the train station!!

modernlove · 28/06/2009 15:08

Well done Tilly. You should be very proud of yourself. x

tillyfernackerpants · 28/06/2009 16:56

Thanks modernlove, I do feel proud of myself! What made me laugh though was ds1 not wanting my medal because it was 'a bit pink' . Btw, sorry I put a comment to MoM in my last post & it was actually meant for you, duh!

Turniphead1 · 28/06/2009 18:47

Well done Tilly that is so good - and in this heat, wow! Saw it on FB and felt very proud of you.

ZJ hope that boob resolves and you don't get full blown mastitis. Arti's advice seems spot on.

Arti hope this week is ok for you - I will be thinking of you over your Mum's anniversary and hope some good things happen on your birthday. Will you be meeting friends?

PMK hope you get that fraud sorted soon! How agravating for you all.

Trace your strawberry skewers sound delicious - glad you had a good BBQ. It was chucking it down here last night with a big thunder storm.

spot hope things have improved with T's teeth and that you get a good night tonight. Is your DP back? Have mailed you about an air con unit.

My DH has been in Ireland on a golf trip since thursday so am massively looking foward to him getting back and giving me a hand.

We have reached a seminal moment...all three of my children are now simultaneously engaged by cBeebies. God bless, Charlie and Lola

Veggiemummy · 28/06/2009 20:06

Blummin heck Tilly you've run the thing and I still haven't sponsored you, is it too late to do it now or could I be cheeky and say I will sponsor you £20 if you do another?

Modern was it Westmead you works at, that was the main hospital where we did our prac training when I was at uni, one of the campus' I went to was right near the hospital. You must have gone to the Westfields in that one month. Parramatta is not exactly cosmopolitan, not a great way to spend a month in Australia for you, but close to Sydney I guess. Did you catch the boat up the river?

ZJ you did all the right things and have sorted you Mastitis by the sounds. It is simply an inflamation of your milk ducts etc which can, but doesn't always have an infectious cause (like Arti used to get a lot of, hers did need AB's). So if you can do what you did it can sort it out. If you hadn't done that it may have ended up as a blocked duct or the sitting milk would have becomeinfected. Well done.

Arti £100 isn't that bad at least you get a caring person to be with your child. I wonder what training she has maybe I could get into that? I have been thinking of getting into Nannying on a part time basis. Not sure though. With your DH being away I find the more you don't look forward to it the easier it is. I think if you think the worst will happen, the reality of being by yourself with the kids isn't that bad. Also don't plan any big outings stay close to home but do stuff to occupy them that doesn't take too much effort or organising from you. Plenty of time for that when DH is around. Just go to the park or maybe a local museum or better still just stay home, have a DVD afternoon, make popcorn (with lots of butter) and chill out. Also to help incorporate coffee easily into your day, you can all have 'coffee' make a milk of frothy milk for DS and all 'sit down' for a coffee. Also going to a cafe all together is considered an outing. More than anything be relaxed about what you need to do with your day, try not to have to rush to get somewhere or be ready for something just leads to frustration, fraut tempers and general tears. Finally, if you do lose it it's ok you'll all survive and I find just apologizing for being a big grumpy bum and having a big hug works a treat. Oh and ALWAYS have chocolate in the house, do not be caught short.

Camping was great fun I went for a training run up a hill near Hope called Win hill. Was more of a walk run because it was quite steep. After I posted to you the other night DS2 had a massive screaming bout, I think it is still those nasty teeth. But other than that he did amazingly well with sleeps he had his naps in the tent quite happily except for once when it was hot in there so went in the pushchair, and the tent was quite bright due to the sun in the morning but he slept quite well, so bodes well for Holland, and Camp Bestival. DS1 loved it, he loves camping grounds, he and our friends ds kept wandering off to find friends, it's just one big mates fest for him. There were lots of other kids so lots for them to do just around our tent. When the daddies went to compete in the race thing they were in the mummies chilled out in the sun, was lovely.

Hi to everyone else, Trace glad Lucy had a lovely time and would love to see photos of her as a kitty. PMK sorry about the money, same happened to DH and the money got sorted quite quickly. Can't remember everyone elses news will try to think what else I was going to write and post later.

traceface · 28/06/2009 20:33

hello
well the incredible sleeping Phoebe lasted only the 2 nights Last night she woke and fed at 9 something, 11, 1, 3 and 4 then after that I brought her into our bed where she slept (and I didn't!) till 6.30. yawn. She had napped really well in the day but I'm wondering if it was too well. Today she has only napped for a total of 1 hour so I'll see what happens tonight. It seems there's no rhyme or reason!
Tilly well done on the run. We're very proud of you.
Veggie you are such an inspiration - so full of energy and enthusiasm. DH has been trying to get me to go camping and I just point out all the pitfalls of camping with a mini-kid - but you just go ahead and have fun! I should chill out more I think.
modern at the 'sitting doing nothing' comments!
zoe - glad the boobarella is on the mend Sorry no strawberry kebabs left - they lasted about 0.78 seconds and I accidentally ate all the left over brownies
Wow - Stephen Fry is on Top Gear and he's lost 6 stone and is looking quite distinguished!

traceface · 28/06/2009 20:36

oh and spot in the heat I have put P in just nappy and vest with no blanket or sleeping bag or anything. She's slept in a sleeping bag from day 1 so I was scared of breaking her by taking it away - but that was the night she did her amazing 8 hour stint so it seems she's much less scared of change than I am!

EffiePerine · 28/06/2009 21:03

Is anyone else having trouble with biting? It seems that now DS2 has discovered the joys of chomping on food he's decided to do the same with my nips especially when he's tired. No sign of teeth yet thank goodness!

Tilly: well done!

notjustanumber · 28/06/2009 21:19

Blimey, well done Tilly.

traceface · 28/06/2009 21:21

yes effie i've had a couple of OUCH moments when P's gums of steel have chomped my nip! I think I remember Veggie saying she would un-latch her ds1 when he did it and he learnt not to!

Verso · 28/06/2009 21:34

veggie we've suddenly decided we'd like to go camping but everywhere is booked (used to go a lot pre-children).

Have posted a new pic, taken today...

Veggiemummy · 28/06/2009 22:17

I don't if it was just because DS1 was such a boob man and feared not having access to the boob, but taking him off suddenly put the fear of losing it into him and he never bit again.

ZJ was it you who had the rolling and reading baby. Very impressed, DS2 would have eaten the paper! I left my baby Om book out open on the floor the other day whilst getting a drink in the kitchen then the phone rang by the time I got back DS2 had eaten 2 pages!!!! I'm gutted I love that book and was hoping to pass it onto someone when I'm finished with it.

Hey if Arti & ZJ continue to have problems should we start a new thread? Are you guys having problems with other threads you post on?

Trace, by all means give camping a go but I have to say you either really like it or you hate it. I have friends who I have been camping with who hate it and end up being miserable. But it is brilliant for kids, they live it. DS1 last night was sat eating his BBQ sausage sandwich telling us he wanted to live at the camping ground.

Where did you want to go Verso? Is that for the school holidays?

Veggiemummy · 28/06/2009 22:19

Oh Verso! So cute, and so clever sitting up!

Kayzr · 29/06/2009 07:48

Morning,

Tilly Well done. Would you do it again?

I love camping. We're currently looking for a tent but I need to learn to drive first.

I've got to ice DS2's christening cake today. I am really worried it will look awful!!

Hope everyone is well.

waitinggirl · 29/06/2009 07:58

hello hello hello, finally! madam is in her playgym (also having done a nearly proper, though not triangular, poo), dh is asleep upstairs and i am at the laptop, yeee haaa!!!

portugal was lovely, but again, a real shock in terms of what a holiday iss now like with a madam. there was precious little sitting in the sun for me (v unusual), even though dad and ladyfriend took madam for a lot of the time. the combination of madam having her first cold, which i then got, plus the searing heat (didn't reach below 31degrees c in the bedroom at night for the first 4 nights), plus the new travel cot meant sleep didn't really happen. but on return, things are getting better (only 2-3 wakings)

we also started solids - solids, what a misnomer! more like gooey babyrice watery stuff, although now exciting carrotsz, butternut squash, banana etc. way hey! quite enjoying pureeing at the mo, although early days...

i have skimmed but cannot remember much. apart from - go, arti with mrs sleep!!! how are things now?

dh has finished his series now - went really well, and he is taking 2 days off, so we are doing baby rhyme time, cinema and swimming together - yay!

madam calls...

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notjustanumber · 29/06/2009 08:05

Morning. About the worst night sleep ever here, none of us like the heat DS2 would just not believe it wasnt morning ! At 2am...

DH and I had a massive fight yesterday, doesnt happen often but when it does is a biggy. He is stressed at work, as usual, and I've had the kids on my own for three days and am rather tired, as my nights arent great still. He was lying in bed/on the sofa all day as he wasnt feeling too well, and when I asked him for help, he said he expected me to just "deal with it". I'm quite worried abour going back to work on wednesday (my job involves havig to use your brain), and how we will cope with it, but that is not uppermost in his mind, at all. He is a loving and caring man, but is not always best at remembering I might have my own stresses, probably becuase I am a "coper" and he isnt. I feel that I'm the one that always has to "deal with it" no matter how I feel, and when I said that, he said I never got ill so it wanst a problem !!!! I do get ill, but BF, changing nappies etc, doesnt just stop . Anyway, rant over, just sometimes I wish I had some IL to be irritated by just so we could get a break. This was in front of DS1 too, but I suppose thats unavoidable. Unfortunately we had friends visiting yesterday shortly afterwards so we couldnt talk about it and hope they didnt notice the frostiness

DH wants to talk today as he has the day off work, but I have sleep deprived-fuzzy head. And DS2 is supposed to be visiting nursery all day, but I'm too knackered to be sitting at my desk when I'm not paid to be...

spotofcheerfulness · 29/06/2009 12:14

Hi folks, huge sympathies on the night waking babes, I was up with T at 10.20, 12.40, 3.10, 5.10 and then up at 6.10 for the day, now not so convinced it's teeth as there is still nothing to show and he had a really stuffy nose yesterday so maybe just heat and a bad cold? Who knows, either way would really like him to get more comfortable.

WG, sorry the hol was not what you would have ideally hoped for but v glad things seem to be settling a bit more now you're back and that you've got some quality time with DH and madam. What is baby rhyme time? Sounds great.

congrats on the race, tillly, i'm so impressed. and v glad you had such a lovely hol.

NJAN, commiserations on the row, sounds really tough. i hope you're able to come to some kind of meeting of minds. Sleep deprivation just makes everything worse and the arguments more vicious (certainly chez spot at any rate). PLus the fact that all the conversations become all about practical matters. Sorry, probably projecting a bit there, But i hope you manage to work something out.

Glad you had a good time camping, Veggie, sounds like your sons take after you!

And that is a great pic, Verso.

row78 · 29/06/2009 13:43

Hi,

MomOrMum put up a link to here fom the non sleeping thread so here I am!

My son was born on boxing day, and is wonderful, he doesn't sleep, drink milk or eat solids properly but he more than makes up for it. he has also ripped off the shift key on keyboard so i may sometimes lack caps as I keep trying to fix it and it seems to work a few times and then falls off again :-).

I've had a quick look over the last page and yes effie, I've been used as a human dummy and now I am a human teether, wonderful isn't it? Seeing as it's a struggle to get him to have a proper milk feed these days I can't threaten him with withdrawal. Whereabouts in essex are you?

NJAN - sorry to hear about your row - I find that my hubby irritates me a lot more these days, but I know a lot of it is down to the lack of sleep, and the lack of sleep prevents me fom being able to articulate how I feel to him as well, so he just winds me up more! sometimes a row is good to clear the air.

LadyThompson · 29/06/2009 13:53

Hello luvverlies

Just bookmarking, back later this afternoon.

I like this heat but DD is not a fan, she keeps crying which just isn't like her, and I think it's the temperature. I don't think she's going to enjoy Italy in a couple of weeks....

sybilfaulty · 29/06/2009 14:09

Welcome Row

Spot you sound exhausted, you poor thing. Can you put T in the buggy (too hot for sling) and walk so he can drop off and you can have a cup of coffee in the shade?

NJAN, you sound as though you need a bit of a cuddle too. I hate arguing as it;s so very draining. How are you feeling now? We have lots of lively discussions here so I am with you on the squabble front.

I am still gutted about the nanny thing, so much so I could not stop crying this am in the car and had to retune to Magic FM to get me back on track. When I got to the pool I got the car in a space and could not get out my side, so I had to ask a workman to re park while I stood on the pacement and sobbed. Fortunately you can't see tears as you are swimming. But I am off to a dear friend's in a minute and ano friend has texted me her CM's number and she may be able to have M, so just Lucy to deploy for a daya week. Must pull myself together as I look like pants and keep crying off my eye makeup.

Hope all are well. BAck later.

row78 · 29/06/2009 14:14

Just been flicking quickly through the thread, artichoke whereabouts do you live? I'm seriously considering a sleep consultant but don't want to do CC, if someone could shhhh pat him to sleep other than me (I'm too tired) then could be perfect.

notjustanumber · 29/06/2009 15:02

Hi,

Thanks, Spot, Sib and Row ! Big hugs back to you too for sleepless nights and nanny problems. I'm always blubbing in public places, which is odd, as I hate crying and hardly ever do it, but it always seems to happen. Today DH asked if he should take me home after dropping the kids off instead of me walking round tesco sobbing, but I said no-one would notice anyway.

It turns out the real problem here is our sadly neglected relationship, which is kind of what I thought. Neither of us feels loved or supported by eachother at the moment and I think this is causing us both a lot of stress. I always find leaving the kids at nursery for the first time very hard so am very emotional at the moment anyway. Any tips, apart from ditching the kids ? How do you keep things alive between you ? I said we should have no more children as clearly it would break our marriage. DH was very sad at this, but we'd have to work out a way for us to both get a break if we did want to do it. I'm hoping as they get older things will be a bit less intense...

tillyfernackerpants · 29/06/2009 15:27

row hi & welcome!

njan big hugs to you. Dh & I have had our fair share of arguments lately too & I've said much the same about a 3rd child. What we've started to try & do is have a date night . We turn off all distractions (such as MN!), either cook a nice meal or have a takeaway & have a chat. Then we might watch a film or something. We can't really afford babysitters atm so its hard for us to go out to have time alone so this is the next best thing. I guess we have 'rediscovered' each other & it has helped our relationship. Hth, & glad you & dh got to have a chat.

spot hugs to you as well. Has T had a nap today? Hope you got to relax for a bit

sybil hugs also to you. Fingers crossed the childcare situation is all sorted soon & that your eye makeup can stay intact!

veggie I'm not sure, I think you can still sponsor me. I'm pretty sure I'm done with running though, just not my thing. Am going to stick with cycling & swimming!

arti am thinking of you today, hope you're ok.

kayz how did the cake icing go? We've got ds2's baptism on Saturday, but I'm being lazy, the pub is sorting out all the food for us . Well done to ds1 on his big walk to the castle, lol at him wanting to stay at the train station!

I think ds2 may become the terror of the baby group. He just rolls everywhere & grabs or kicks the other babies . Not on purpose of course, everyone is really nice though & just laugh it off (phew)!

Ds1 has just been crying over his accidents, bless him. He wets his bed a couple of times a week but as I was trying to get him to have more water as its so hot he said he didn't want any water as it will make him have an accident! I've tried to tell him the accidents don't matter, we'll see if I've got through!

Right, we're back off into the garden. Just doing short bursts out there so a bit in & out today!

Veggiemummy · 29/06/2009 19:13

Have been lurking all day but have only just gotten around to posting. Hello and welcome to Row, with your non feeding, non sleeping baby you will fit right in with this thread! Oh and your house needs to be a bit of a tip as well. I quite like the idea of Mom going out and recruiting more Dec 08 from the MN metropolis.

Very happy Leyton Hewitt won, in another of his 2-down-comebacks. He does it the hard way but makes for exciting tennis.

Feeling quite garden proud today. Havng been away for the weekend I returned to some perpetual spinach, lovely peas and little broad beans which I made into a soup for lunch. Also a surprise cauliflower which has popped up way ahead of the others will leave it a little longer to see if it gets any bigger. Also thinned my carrots out today and have 15 in total so not many but they have to be 10cm apart so hey ho. Unfortnately also returned to some merauding(sp) caterpillers 10 on one brussel sprout plant. I cut several of them in half with my little scissors and transferred the others to a shoe box full of leaves with DS1. He insisted on putting them into an empty broad bean pod for comfortable transportation to the shoe box. It's funny how their little minds work. He also explained that he would need a couple of the basil leaves that I had bought to make pesto to feed his friends.

Now before you think I have fallen headlong into domestic perfection I am happy to announce that our house is a complete mess. The only thing I hate about camping is the clean up and packing when we get home. DH has put the big stuff away and I've a the washing but we still seem to have a pile of 'bits' in the front room.

Also DS2 has developed a nasty cough overnight, he still fairly happy but had four naps today, one was only 40 mins after he'd woken from another. Poor little fella because it wasn't when he usually has a nap I didn't know why he was so upset, he ended up completely beside himself screeching. When I finally worked it out I took him up to his cot and was so happy he stopped crying when we got to our room and actually smiled as I put him in the cot and then immediately closed his eyes.

NJAN Syb and others sorry about the fights I know the feeling. I think we are due for a tiff sometime soon. We also don't often argue but when we do it's big time. I think the reason we don't fight so often though is that DH knows how hard it is. He was talking to a dad at nursery today who has recently become a SAHD and he said he knew it would be difficult but he said he just doesn't know how women look after the kids and keep their house reasonably tidy.

Right gotta go I think this one is asleep and I'm off our for a ride.