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May 2009 - we're all here! btw, does anyone know what the Hungry Cry sounds like?

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Momino · 14/06/2009 11:32

phew! how many threads have we done since last aug?

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FiKelly · 20/06/2009 02:25

blotted hope you're ok.. you know we're here if you need a good keyboard to cry/vent on/over

looby after my em cs with ds last time.. things were tender down there IKWYM. although i'd had the cs they had also done a manual evacuation after.. which i found had made things uncomfortable for the first few times maybe it was all the pre cs messing about that has you a bit sore?

smiling g has started smiling at dh and i after her feeding marathons from 5pm till 8/9pm esp when i'm chattering 'hiya i'm yer mum.. there's yer dad' they're gorgeous and don't care if they're wind.. although i'm sure they're real

momino i enlist dh when g gets overtired as i get stressed out. with a combo of me feeding and him pacing around with g over his shoulder she usually calms and gives in to sleep eventually.

runningmonkey · 20/06/2009 04:03

Hiya 4 o'clock shift here...

Not a bad night so far and amhoping from the gulping that's going on A is going to sleep for a good few hrs after this one

FiKelly · 20/06/2009 07:01

I reckon g would have gone 4hrs between her last feed and 6.30 if ds hadn't started yelling mummy/daddy i neeeeed you at the top of his lung power as he was ready to get up and start the day..

Momino · 20/06/2009 08:11

morning all. slept till 8am! what luxury. H had fallen asleep about 10 min after I passed her over toDH and he put her in another room. She then woke up at 5am for a feed on one side which I did in bed and both of us fell asleep again until now.

hope you all had a good sleep. gotta rush now as we're off to th six week check 6/7 week check. then we're off to pick up DD1&2 at grandparents in cheshire. hope they've not been too spoiled.

have a god morning all.

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Momino · 20/06/2009 08:12

that's 'good' morning .

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Febes · 20/06/2009 09:09

DD , DS and DH all have upset tummies and as I have to deal with 2 of them in nappies I am a bit over it. DS woke every 1.5 hours for feeds. I'm so tired and we have a wedding to go to tonight. It's a cbeebies day today. DH is working until 3pm. AND I have 2 lts of visitors coming today- SIGH.

FiKelly · 20/06/2009 09:38

oh febes i'm worn out just reading about your start to the day.. we're on fiver atm but may be joining you on cbeebies after. g has fed constantly since 6.15am and hoping she'll stop soon. i want to wash and do my teeth!

SpangleMaker · 20/06/2009 10:01

blotted hope you have a better day today.

ses my health visitor told me that breast milk has some kind of magic anti-bacterial properties that mean it's not so critical that bottles are thorougly sterilised. I read somewhere that sterilizing is a UK thing, in many other countries they just stick the bottles in the dishwasher.

(TMI) Relations were resumed here last night I don't think bf-ing helps in the fanjo department (Looby could be that?) but it wasn't too bad

Ooops better go - H awakes!

SpangleMaker · 20/06/2009 10:19

Aargh - since H woke up from his 'big' sleep at 4am he's been in a cycle of doze/few sucks on the boob/doze etc. Now dozing again! Might have to express some off as I'm feeling full.

H 'failed' his 6 wk check yesterday as he wasn't paying sufficient attention to a comic relief red nose being dangled in front of him to follow it with his eyes. TBH he doesn't pay attention to objects much at all, except toys on his playmat. He looks at people, lights and patterns though so I know he can see. Is that normal do you think? Do any of your LOs pay attention to toys yet?

SpangleMaker · 20/06/2009 10:24

Sorry, multiple posts. Meant to add H is 11.5 wks, or 7wks corrected for early arrival.

flippineck · 20/06/2009 10:39

Morning all!

blotted - hope everything is ok.

looby - I wonder if it's the BF too - hormones can do odd things. KY might help.

emmab - scary!

Well, I think I really must join the weight loss thread...DD1 (26 months now) lifted up my t-shirt yesterday and said 'hello big fat tummy'!!! Lol, but a bit depressing too. I don't know if it's worse because she was talking to my muffin tops, are they that bad?!

A is really unsettled most of the time, but last night was terrible, we were disturbed almost every hour!

Belgianchocolates · 20/06/2009 11:09

flippin That's not as bad as when I was an a/p myself in a previous distant life. One of the boys lifted their mums top and said that her belly is like a big ugly face, lol.

We had a lovely night. C seems to have more her alert time until a bit later at night. I took her up at 10 anyway as I was shattered. Put her in her crib awake and she went to sleep by about 10.30, without feeding or anything. She then slept until 3 and then had another sleep until 6! Never had such 2 big stretches in a row. I feel much more awake than yesterday I did wake up to an explosive poo, with poo running down her legs, so I dunked her in the bath first thing. Now she's quite happily lying under her baby gym.

I'm hoping to go out later on today to get my boobs measured. I hate going to town on a Saturday, but I want to take advantage of that 30% off code at figleaves and my bras do feel too big. Hopefully I've shrunk enough to be able to get some gorgeous hotmilk stuff

daizydoo · 20/06/2009 11:11

Febes, hope your day gets better.

Fi, hope you get to the bathroom soon ;)

Spangle, ds1 was 8 weeks old when he had his 6-8 week check and he failed the toy test, he started following things a couple of weeks later...

We've had a couple of smiles from ds2. A cracking one the other day for his big brother, who was playing about in front of him!!

Anyone want a spotty, hyper 2 yr old? He's well in himself, just these blasted spots need to crust over. I've been very tired and shouty the past couple of days. Didn't help that dh put his black apron in the washing machine and I put the whites in, not seeing it , thankfully the washing doesn't look too bad!

ds2 is going about 4hrs between feeds at night, which is great, but doesn't mean he's sleeping! I can't get him to sleep before 10pm and when he wakes at about 2/3 for a feed he's awake! [grr]
Am hoping to get out at some point to sort dh's fathers day present out, but dh is gardening and I need him to look after ds1. He can't do both it seems

MsG · 20/06/2009 11:19

Hello everyone, I've finally got here - will catch up when I can. Hope everyone is doing OK. I think I've got mastitis now - breastfeeding is hard enough already!

x

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SpangleMaker · 20/06/2009 12:14

Dandy H is 11.5 weeks old but 7 wks from his due date. He's being treated, as far as weight and development go, by his gestational age rather than birth age to give him time to catch up, hence them delaying the 6-8 wk check until now. It's silly really, because if he was born at 37 weeks (ie 10/11 days later) I think he'd be treated as 'normal' and have his 6-8 week check 6-8 weeks from birth.

In some ways I think (I don't have any experience!) he's more like an 11.5wk-old - eg he's much more interactive now and is smiling all the time. That's why I was wondering about the toys, because I would have thought he'd be a bit more interested by now.

Belgianchocolates · 20/06/2009 12:17

dandy Because spangle's baby was born early, they do the check at a time when he would have been 6 weeks if he had been born on time, IYSWIM.

W've got a slightly grumpy C today. Not ure why, but she's happy as long as she's being held, so it's going to be s sling day I think

sterilizing I think it's a European thing. They don't do it in the US where nearly everyone has a dishwasher. I think dishwashers use so much heat that bottles are supposed to come out ready sterilised, but only if you've got a good one that doesn't leave any bits behind.

Seems like it's been a busy night on the resuming relations side No such action here yet. Both DH and I are just too shattered to even contemplate such activities.

ladyhelen2 · 20/06/2009 12:44

Morning ladies. Seems like aaaaggges since I've been on.You're already half way through a new thread! I love reading updated on all the babies and glad everyone is doing well.

So quick update on our progress in the last two weeks:
Rufus is now 7 weeks today, and is 11lb 2oz.
He is a lovely chilled and smiley baby.
We are still BF but are topping up also every feed. I hope to do one or two more weeks with the BF as thats where I got to with DS1.
We are down to one feed in the night now which is bliss.
I have resumed relations with DH. Not too bad considering the third degree tear!
Hospital say I have to do more work however on my pelvic floor. Had to leave the dignity at the door as to check, the physio ( thank god she was female!) had to ..ahem...put her finger up me and do a bit of routing around. I got complacent over doing the old excersizes as I wasn't weeing myself when I coughed/sneezed/jumped/ran. So three times a day now, and Squuuueeeeeze!
I have lost 3lbs this week and am now back in my size 12 skinny jeans (albeit with a muffin top).
And lastly, I have bought a gorgeous maxi dress which I love love love. Worn once so far. Need more opportunites to do so. (Sorry about that shallow post but gosh I do love that dress). Its the GypsyO5 red maxi dress on this site bunnyhug.co.uk.
I think thats it.

blotted hope you are ok. Noticed your post and you've not been back on since. Come back and vent on here, lovey.

Will try to be better at keeping up to date on here.

DandyLioness · 20/06/2009 12:47

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ladyhelen2 · 20/06/2009 12:59

dandy god what a nightmare couple of days. Glad you've been able to offload it. Have you had your apologies yet? And how is your blood pressure now?

SpangleMaker · 20/06/2009 13:05

Oh Dandy, what a complete nightmare, and how incredibly frustrating that your experience was so awful not because of medical problems but because of the incompetence of the medical staff and their refusal to think past hospital processes.

I must admit, my opinion of doctors has plummeted following mine & others' experience of pregnancy/childbirth. Not in their clinical skills but in their poor ability to see 'cases' as individuals, lack of communication skills, etc etc. Surely it doesn't take a consultant to have those?!

runningmonkey · 20/06/2009 13:48

Oh Dandy what a nightmare. I am glad the consultant took notice of you and there is going to be an investigation. Not a nice experience after birth let alone alongside an em-cs. I agree with spangle re some DRs not seeing people as people just cases - in my case is was a grumpy anaesthatist who told me not to moan during a contraction as it wouldn't help she got her comeuppance when the epidural didn't work and she thought I might sue her! Hope writing it down was helpful for you - in fact I am going to do mine while I have 5 mins.

runningmonkey · 20/06/2009 14:27

Oh inspired by Dandy, here goes.

Tuesday 2nd June went into hospital at 4pm. Was examined and found to be 1-2 cm and soft so had first dose of prostin. 6 hours later was contracting every 2 mins and strapped to a monitor in antenatal ward. Either side of me there were people snoring. I was trying my best to breathe in the golden light. Was examined about 2am and still 1-2 cm but because of the frequency of the ctx they didn't want to give me the 2nd prostin dose in case it caused over contraction so had some paracetomol and a bath while we waited to see what happened (DH had gone home and they were on the verge of calling him back). Contractions subsided at about 2.30am so was decided to wait until morning.

9am next morning (Wed 3rd) had 2nd prostin and walked about 5 miles in circuits around the hospital having irregular contractions. By 1pm they were regular again and coming every 2 mins (was back on the bed and monitor again!). Was examined about 3pm and told that I was 3cm and that we could go up to the delivery unit where they would break my waters. At 5pm mw came to see me and said that because of emergencies there was no room for me and were waiting to see what happened. Ctxs had subsided to irregularity again so went for yet another walk around the hospital. 10pm still no bed so DH went home. I managed some sleep (snoring woman was one of the emcs's as I found out the next day!)

9am on Thurs (4th June) they finally had space for me in delivery unit. MW who looked after me was the mw who booked me in on Tues which was nice because she was lovely. Waters broken at 9.30am. Went for another walk around the hospital during which I had a massive row with my Mum as she had rung the hospital found out I was in the delivery unit and therefore presumed she should drive over as I must have had the baby (no pressure then!). Still having irregular ctxs. 1.30pm and waters leaking like mad I was 4cm so decided to start the synto drip to speed things up a bit. 5 attempts to get a canula in resulting in v dishy anaesthatist coming in and getting one into my left wrist meaning I couldn't mend my wrist or make a fist properly. By 3pm I was having mahoosive ctxs 2 mins apart and on the gas bouncing on a ball while DH held monitor to my stomach (the wireless one was broken).

4pm too much pain so had an epidural. Horrible horrible lady anaesthatist came in to do epidural and told me to quit moaning. I almost punched her. Senior MW also in room by this point , she was like Mme Ramostwe and so lovely and hugged me while epidural put in. About 5 mins later, lying on bed my face went numb. Epidural had travelled upwards. Horrid anaesthatist comes back, incredibly apologetic and resites epidural much more nicely. Epidural numbs my right leg from the knee down and that's it!

Loads more ctxs and by 8pm started feeling like I needed a big poo. Then A's heart beat dropped massively so they tried to attach a monitor to her head... while doing so they discovered I was fully dilated and the monitor started to pick up her heart rate properly again (the drop was that it was picking up mine!!). Was such a relief to know that I could start pushing that DH said I started grinning like an absolute loon (I don't remember this at all).

Synto drip was turned down a bit as ctxs were too close together for me to push enough with each one. Big mistake as they slowed right down again! Did a lot of pushing. At one point I turned to DH and said 'I feel like I'm doing a poo, not having a baby', he didn't have the heart to tell me that's exactly what I was doing at that point!

By 9.30 I was exhausted as epi didn't work and couldn't use the G&A anymore so asked for some assistance. Consultant came in to do a KIWI (manual ventouse thing apparently). It was also a shift change so although lovely MW who had been with me since 3 said she would stay, I also had the shift senior mw in and her student as well as the Dr. Was still pushing with each ctx at this point and holding onto DH and lovely MW for dear life. During one particularly big one, lovely MW caught the canula and ripped it out of my hand. Cue emergency call for another anaesthatist to resite that in other hand which caused a big horror movie fountain of blood to shoot all over her and the floor of the room. DH was at this point down the business end with the Dr grinning and shouting at me that he could see A's head with each push (and he promised to stay head end before this all started!).

So at 10pm with canula still being held in my arm by Anaesthatist, MW holding my other arm, Senior MW and Student almost chanting at me to push the Dr gave me an episiotomy, and had everything ready to yank A out. I gave it one more big push and half her head came out! Student Mw then delivered her onto my tummy 2 more pushes later.

Had the injection for the third stage and got to see my placenta which was cool - I must remember to tell my 6th form students about it (DH wouldn't take a picture!). Was stitched up with some local anaesthetic so didn't really feel much and anyway was far to busy gazing at DH holding beautiful DD to care.

Fed her with some help from another MW who I used to go to yoga with in the delivery room before being taken down to postnatal ward at about 1.30am where I gazed at Alys until the sun came up. Oh yeah, snoring woman form the antenatal ward was in the next bay to me so I wouldn't have got any sleep anyway!

Next morning, we became a project for yet another student MW which was lovely because we basically had one to one care until discharge at 2.30 that afternoon and she was fab.

So - not at all how I wanted to do it. I felt v helpless being tied to a bed for the duration because of monitoring and exhausted from the lack of pain relief and two previous nights in noisy ward. The lack of movement was what I hated - especially when pushing because all I wanted to do was get up and squat and probably would have got her out a lot quicker if I could have. If there is a next time I will resist induction completely unless there is a medical reason not too as I didn't feel in control for most of it. I won't bother with an epidural either!

Woah, an epic... sorry!

Belgianchocolates · 20/06/2009 17:27

Wow, what 2 very different but long birth stories.

Dandy What a horrible experience. Those 2 drs should have known better. Knowing what happens behind the scenes though I have a feeling the incidents will both be related to staffing. I bet they were needed in about a hundred places at once and tried to hurry. That is of course not an excuse. In our own hospital our poor paeds are run off their feet too, but it's quite unlikely both incidents would happen, because us MW's keep a close eye on the junior paeds . TBH we always plot the blood results as soon as they arrive and then a dr double checks or the other way around. I do hope you get an apology from those paeds. You deserve it.

runningm Well done! Inductions can be a long tiring process, but it sounds like you coped with it very well. I always think that being monitored + being on a drip doesn't mean that a woman can't squat or take on different positions during labour. Of course you would be a bit restricted, but I would have let you move around as much as possible, especially in the 2nd stage. A kiwi is a type of disposable ventouse. It's the most commonly used one. I've never seen the traditional type being used so far in my career.

I got myself measured in Mothercare and like I suspected I've shrunk! I've gone from a 36FF to a 36E That means I can get a hotmilk bra! I think I might try a 34F though, because I don't think I'll stay a 36 chest for much longer and pre-preg I was a 32.