May 2009 - we're all here! btw, does anyone know what the Hungry Cry sounds like?

[Momino]

phew! how many threads have we done since last aug?

Emma well done for being so honest with your GP and HV. It really is good to get it sorted now. Am sure the antid's will help .

Had a lovely day today. Hope B is getting in to some sort of routine (or maybe I am getting used to him) - can't believe he is 8 weeks tomorrow.

We had our post natal check up this week, and all is well. But I still get quite bad back / coccyx pain, presumably due to pushing whilst in bad stirrups position. The dr said there's vey little I can do about it other than take painkillers and time will heal. Boo.

emmab sorry it's PND but glad you've 'caught' it sooner rather than later. Hope the tablets help you.

runningmonkey poor you. I know how you feel. It's exhausting, literally draining. It's probably a growth spurt, or at worse a short phase, just keep reminding yourself it will pass. H has the hands issue too - sometimes it's like he's trying to help getting my boob in his mouth but they just get in the way. I try to trap his lower arm underneath; his upper arm, these days, he likes to occupy pulling my hair/necklace/sticking into my top.

OK tell me I am being hormonal and unreasonable: DH has just rung to ask if he'd left something at home, then drops in the conversation he's off to a customer's (no problem with that, it's his job) and is staying for dinner No asking how H has been (bearing in mind what a nightmare we had last night), whether I need any help, had I prepared anything (OK I haven't!). It's not that I think he should need permission, but bearing in mind I don't get a break until he gets home he could at least ask out of politeness if I'm ok on my own this evening. Grr.

saus grrr at your DP. I never got DH to stop smoking, he doesn't smoke much at home (and only outside) but still....... I would love to hear from Polony, I always liked her posts.

emmmabemma good on you, you know what it is and you're being treated. I was put on anti-depressants for a while, they made me very, very, very randy . I hope you start to feel on more of an even keel soon.

momi I listened to ISIHAC on I-Player. Not the same without Humph but still wonderful......

blotted lol at saucepot temptress antics, baaaad girl!

looby and running sorry for your probs with feeding, S is just starting to get a bit fretty, feeding more. She does the head bobbin' hand wavin' gum chompin' routine.

I'm hungry.......

Emma Huge hugs my dear

Belgian Wicking is when one layer of fabric pulls wetness through from the layer below - fleece and wool can be bad for that. I had bamboozles for N&E and was deeply unimpressed with them, N peed right through them more than once. I got a couple of bear behinds nappies and loved them but the fleece retained the poo smell after a while

Momino If there's anything in particular he's anxious about I can ask my DH about it? Do you mind if I ask why he's going for GA rather than local? (Round here, it's a 5 year waiting list for vasectomy under general or 6 weeks with a local. DH was in and out of the family planning in half an hour)

Sausage - MEN!! Grr.

I have decided tomorrow night I am going for a long bath and an early night. DH can look after H and bring him too me just for feeding. Perhaps I will express so he can do some of that too. So there.

spangle, sausagen, [anger] at your DP/DH... when will they understand our feelings?

emmabsmom, I didn't get help for PND until 9 months after dd2's birth and really suffered until I realised I couldn't handle my DCs the way i was feeling. i am so glad you were honest with your GP at this stage, not an easy thing to do with PND/depression. it will be hard for your DH to understand but try to be as honest as possible with him. I hope the antid's help you and am so relieved you're getting support. hope you're feeling better soon.

to not too

see I am so cross I can't spell!

blotted, my DH had surgery on his testicles at a young age (one hadn't 'dropped' i think ?) so was gen anest was recommended to him by the consultant. he got an appointment so quickly because there was a cancellation; I think that is one reason he is nervous is that he didn't expect to have this surgery so quickly after 1st discussion. 2ndly, he'd heard that 20% (or is it 5% - big diff i know) of men who have the snip have chronic 'discomfort' (whatever that means). don't know if you know anything about that.

I think he'll be fine and it's just last-minute jitters. i wish there were a thread on here for men to discuss such things. they wouldn't be as chatty as us would they?

i hope none of you is a teacher, my grammar, punctuation, repetition, spelling are awful. 1-handed typing is difficult and i don't proofread till a few posts later. sorry if i confuse people with my mistakes!

Wicking is where the moisture passes out of the nappy, into the wrap and then leaks out onto clothes. A bit like capillary action, fabric that draws up liquid by capillary action is a wick.

I started using washable today with Rueben. I have pocket nappies fuzzi bunz, honey child and wonderoos- not sure if they are all avaiable in uk. I have small for R and medium for DD. I would like to use them 100% but am easing into them and have disposables for going out at this stage. I have wool wraps and fleecy things and bamboo nappies and terries and loads of bits and pieces but I am only using the pocket ones so far as they are easy.

FFS MN you are a pita tonight.

emmab Great you got seen so quickly and a prescription. Most antibiotics though take about a month before they fully work into your system, so don't be upset if they aren't the wonder instant answer to you problems. Hope this helps.

If anyone's up to meeting me somewhere I can get to via bus, I will, I feel abit left out. I'm still dissappointed I didn't get to meet Belgian and Detsy at the farm I Know that makes me sound really sad and pathetic, I don't mean it to

What are you all getting your DP's/DH's for father's day? I need some inspiration...

I had another hospital appointment this morning. I'm actually quite proud of myself for getting J and DD who's 3 and a half out of the house by half nine, we then walked to town to catch the bus to the hospital. J has been so unsettled allday, he cried earlier for an hour without stopping at all. It was a strange cry too, it sounded like he was in pain...he was dry, wasn't hungry, i kept trying to see if he had wind, nothing would settle him, until eventually after an hour of me rocking him, he drifted off, for 10mins...It's so stressful though when he's like that, I have to give him all my attention, poor DD. I like to give her, her bedtime story without J there, like Mommy and DD time, and tonight I had to struggle giving her the story with him on me, cuz he'd only settle lying with his head on my shoulder...(sighs)

jenn I'm sure you meant anti-depressants? Also thanks for the explanation re wicking. I suppose thats why fleece makes good liners.

I use my reusables during the day. For short trips I use re-usables for day long ones disposables otherwise I'd be carrying about 5-6 nappies in my bag and there's just no space. At night I use disposable too, the re-usables just don't seem to last even with booster pads. I bought the bamboo ones because they're supposed to be very absorbant, but I haven't really noticed a difference at all. Funnily enough the best ones so far are the old Kushies I used with dd1, this will be the 2nd baby I've used them with and they're still going strong. The blueberry one and wonderoo I've got are second best, but cuter . I do like the few pocket nappies I've got, so when we move a size up I think I'll go for them as I haven't got any of ds and dd's old nappies left, because the older baby/toddler size nappies I had were completely worn out.

spangle O'd be angry too. With a baby etc... you're right to expect him at least to ask how you both are and getting some notice that he's not home for dinner would be nice too.

sausagen I'm a bad parent and usually if dh goes to the pub I follow and so do the children . Unless he's on a boys' night out of course.

yes just read that. antidepressants not antibiotics

jael bedtimes have been the same here. I often read the dcs story through C's crying or while rocking C on my shoulder trying to prevent her from starting to cry. If I'm lucky she'll bf. I keep telling myself that it's only a temporary thing, because in a few months she'll be happily reading along too.

Jael Sounds like you are doing great. 9.30 departure is brilliant!

EBsmom- glad you saw your GP so quickly and that you have some ADs which should hopefully make things a lot more manageable soon.

Jael- I expect to get DH some chocs for fathers day- not very exciting but he'll enjoy them. I also ordered DH and my dad some photo cards from moonpig.com with photos of the kids on. Hopefully they will arrive in time. I did try to look for cards yesterday but had to leave the shop quickly when Sam decided he was fed up of shopping.

Apart from the rare occassion when S has been asleep between 6 and 7pm, DH usually manages DD and DS1 at bedtime. I do miss it (even though they are really difficult ATM) and am hoping to get into expressing so DH can do a swap with me. I also miss getting the DCs dressed in the morning, or at least choosing the clothes for them to wear although i am lucky that DH is around to do these things.

Hellloooo girls

Am so impressed with all your posting - goodness knows how you all manage to post so regularly, I just am hopeless and run out of time evey single day

Really miss everyone tho - how sad is that!!?? Can't keep up and have speed read a couple of pages so sorry if I'm out of date. I'm using disposables (how awful am I) so can't comment on the washables - sorry!

Spangle shall we meet soon? Tues, weds, thurs are good for me as Lotti in nursery (so i miss her tons but its a lot less hassle!) Unsure where we could go for a girly gossip and maybe a small glass of wine...

Erm Belg Tum and llare now girls whats all this i spied about a shopping trip, a shopping trip and no one has asked me, how very sad and terribly rude!!

Archie is gettign very big ( really need to be thinking about no 3....!!?) Yup am decided tho running around after a toddler and a newbie is hard work - i love it and am desperate for another. ANyone else feeling like this or am i just mad solo?

DP away tomo, first night solo (well solo literally....if you get my drift) Men def do not get it - they are the priority, followed by work and their own playtimes and then maybe, just maybe family..

Shouldn't grumble as DP is not bad really

Ok big post but not been on a while - hope all are ok xx

Lotti covered in hives and is dosed up on piriton - no idea what it is a reaction to as nothing new has been introduced today. Just looking at her makes me itch bt she's sound asleep now, bless her.

Momi there is a dads section on here and no doubnt there will be a V thread - tho i agree that they won't chat like us - being blokes and all that. MY DP keeps threatening to go and get done but obv I don't want him to just yet for the reason posted above!

Am joining weightwatchers this week/next week hopefully, I seem to have slid to a halt and have a couple of stone to get to my original goal weight of 9 stone. I may givwe myself some slack being older now but i need to lose at least a stone and half. Trouble is I'm starving most of the time, snacking and eating crap as never any good food in the house. \need grumpy over here to stock my kitchen

Ok so no one talking to me so am off to do an on line grocery shop and try to get organised with menu planning and being a proper mother....kind of

And maybe some green and blacks choc, wondering hy i'm not losing weight...

Oh one more thing...

sausage will prob be in bromley at begin of July sometime - if you wanted to meet for coffee in glades or bluewater, that might be fun?

detsy, 3 children are lovely .

Detsy- I'm still not as convinced of the merits of 3 as momino is! The thing i find hard is when me and DH are both out with all 3 and we lose track of who is watching/looking after who, as obviously someone has to watch 2! I guess though as they get older, they will need less watching...

Another vote for 3 DC here... it's fab (but utterly knackering. Would advise waiting until DC1 in school so you have some time to yourself in the day.)

Well, this evening Tummum is a very happy bunny because ..... DD2 went through the whole day without accidents . Probably her doing a poo in her nappy this morning before getting dressed helped, but still, fab news .

EBsmom Well done you for seeking help. It is absolutely the biggest and best step in your recovery.