December 2008 Coven - white light and basket cases

[EffiePerine]

Seeing as LadyT broke the thread...

Good timing JJ! I'm still here...lurking and occasionally posting. Would be a shame to lose the thread, but totally understand the fear of not staying anonymous. I'm keen to join the FB version and can follow this thread wherever she may go. Whatever works!

am so behind on the thread but would hate to lose it. I only have Bisou on Facebook. Have not got time to now to read what has been happening as about to eat and going out later but will try to catch up over the weekend.

Arti-glad to hear you like Brighton. I've been living here for six years and still love it.

Hello ladies,

Please don't go yet ! I have been a lurker for months now, and reading your thread really perks me up. I joined the antenatal thread quite late, and you all seemed to know eachother so I spectated rather than joined in. (DS2 arrived 27th dec)

I normally work 4 days a week, and find maternity leave quite isolating as I dont have any family near by and hard work with two ! I love my DH but he doesnt fully understand the broken nights from BF, and post natal body issues. Its been so comforting to me finding that there are others having the same downs (and ups) as me.

I realise it might seem a bit strange that I have been hanging around not posting, but I'm not a weirdo, honest, just shy. And your chat has been immensely comforting in what has been quite a difficult time in my life

Hi NJAN glad you popped in. I'm not saying you need to lose weight but you said you were having post natal body issues we have a heavy step weight loss thread too. I will need to get someone else to post the link though as I'm on tv itouch and can't cut and paste. I'm off over there now as today is weigh in day. You don't have to post your weight though you can just say how much to lost (hopefully) each week or you may choose to measure you waist hips or whatever. Where do you live?

Oh and mom I suggested the Aveeno but I think it was Kimberley who suggested the bottles. I have been bathing DS2 in the Aveeno bath oil a lovely GP wrote me a script for him. As ds2 and I bath together I have quite lovely soft skin at the moment. My hands were getting quite dry because of all the extra hand washing after nappies and they are so much softer now.

Also is anyone getting tummy cramps? They are not quite period pain cramps but in that area. I didn't start my period with ds1 until he was 10 months old so don't think it's period pain.

Girls I just have to put my two pence in here. Although I am desperatley sorry for V and what is going on in her life and how it would appear someone from RL has followed her onto here and the consequences of that have meant V has felt she has had to depart us for a while I really feel that to move somewhere private takes away the ethos of the whole thread and it does not for me anyway tally with what mumsnet is all about. I do hope the V will be able to come back to us in another guise and in the meantime we can keep up with her on FB.

Thankyou

I do need to lose weight, I have been doing online WW which has been working. But I'm kind of thinking I should try and do it when things are a bit less hectic, as I think its just one extra stress.

I live near Cambridge, and work in science when I am working. I originally come from Birmingham and spent some time at uni in Manchester and Sheffield so been about a bit.

I'm torn between loving spending time with my children, and hating handing them over to the nursery when I go back to work, and just wanting ONE day to myself.

I think I need to talk actually. I think I have been going slowly mad at home, and I dont have many other friends with children...today I just wanted to run away

Notjustanumber there is a few girls around the Camb area and I think we all feel like that sometimes. I am a SAHM and to be honest there are some days I would just like to run away and forget my life as it currently exists. So you are not alone.

Hi all,
Have to agree with the people saying we should stay here. We all know there is a chance of people finding out who we are in RL and reading stuff on here, it is a shame what has happened to V but I think that moving somewhere surreptitious would change things. Obviously facebook is there if someone has something to say that they definitely don't want to be out there on the net! Verso I do hope you feel you can come back though somehow.
njan I think it is very tempting to just lurk and not post so I understand where you are coming from! I am in Cambridge whereabouts are you?? You should meet up with me and jj as she is in Cambridge too, we can have a mini meetup.

I am feeling a bit behind! Just been off for a couple of days to London for my friends daughters 1st b'day. Due to the M25 though I managed to miss the entire party. Sigh. Fortunately I was staying the rest of the day and overnight so was not the end of the world. Found the whole thing a bit stressful travel wise on my own to be honest. DS just screamed whenever we were in a queue, which was often as the M25 was its usual lovely self. Think I shall chill out this weekend to recover.

Arse, arse, arse. I am coming down with mastitis again. Bloody, bloody hell. Lovely Brighton duty doc has given me strong ABs to try and head it off before I get like last time but still Arrggghhhh. Poor Dh is driving round lost in the dark locating late night chemist. Why me? Why does this happen again and again? What am I doing wrong???? I was good at this breast feeding malarkey last time. In fact I love BF and don't want to give it up. ARGH.

Arti am so sorry for you. If ABs aren't working ask the lovely Dr if you can up the dose. Can ward it off if you get a big shot in early. I don't think you are doing anything wrong - it's a completely horrible illness and the one thing that would really knock it on the head is probably lots of rest. As if. Complete catch 22 (which is book I've never been able to get on with). Am crossing everything for you that you've caught it early. Something like Floridax to help build your immunity might help in the longer term.

We have ILs here - so went out tonight to see The Loop. Is very funny. And reminded me of work in a good way. And we have ILs here. So am now drinking in bed. Hmm.

Hair not too purple. In fact quite nice - if a little susie quatro. Was very lovely to be in salon for so long. I used to find getting my hair done so boring.

I think PD is right. Lets hang about here. Speaking of which hello NJAN. Jam hits nail on head. Think we've all probably felt like running away at some point.

SL sorry your traveling about was stressful, although I have a bit of a thing against those baby on board stickers I do think they're useful signposts for other drivers when you are driving like a nutter because petrified of waking the baby (creeping up to red lights because you're petrified of stopping the car and then shoot off like lightening). We had terrible journey up to Yorkshire on Good Friday - took us 8 hours. Of listening to bloody Paddington. We had to stop in Doncaster for light relief. Unlikely, I know.

LadyT I really enjoyed the story - thank you. And has prodded me to find something proper to read. Have had pile of worthy tomes next to bed for months (In the Shadow of the Prophet anyone?) which I can never face reading so have just been reading WMD and PG Wodehouse again. Which makes me think of SL

Ha ha ha DH just fell over taking his trousers off. Am now in trouble for laughing too loud and also still being on laptop. Good nights. And really hope you feel better soon arti.

Just got to the story now, LadyT, but enjoyed it. Great dialogue. Thanks for sharing!

Welcome NJAN! Glad I'm not the only long term lurker.

Saw In The Loop today and really enjoyed it. Lal, it reminded me of work too. Though not sure if in a good way or not!

Arti - So sorry you are facing mastitis again. Amazing that you have persevered with breastfeeding through all of this! I don?t think there is anything you can do differently. It is just bad, bad luck. Memories of painful feeding from before DS had his tongue tie sorted make me wince. And now his feeding patterns keep changing so much day to day that I am sure I am going to get an infection at some point.

Just back from a night out with girlfriends. DH was supposed to do the first night feed with the bottle. Don't you just know that DS woke up for a feed at 12:00 before DH even went to bed?? And of course now DS will wake up again at 2:00 or 3:00 and I will be back on the feeds. How bad is it really to feed when you've had numerous spots of cheefulness?!

MoM not bad at all. I think we've pretty much all done it at least once (ahem)

having another shocker here. Went up to bed at 11, she woke up windy. Onto boob, as it's usually the only way to calm her quickly. An hour and a half later she's still there, every time i try to take her off she whinges and kicks about. Onto other boob, still kicky and scratching me a lot with her free arm. Try the lullaby music on her monitor, nothing doing. Come 1.30 dh brings her downstairs so I can try and get some sleep, she's ok for about an hour, then starts yelling (as by then she's beemn awake for nearly 4 hours). Tried putting her on the boob yet again to try sleep, she keeps staring around the room but as soon as I turn off the nigthtlight she yells and kicks. My turn to bring her downstairs and now she's fecking well awake and playful, but if put on the playmat, yells again. Of course she looks bloody knackered, but squealing and kicking and flawiling limbs is much more fun than letting herself sleep...

Any clues as to what to do?! Has two nights of this during the week, last night not too bad.

Oh dear lord, this is really taking the effing buiscuit. Gave her some calpol in the hope that if it's teeth problems that would help and might get her to sleep too - no dice. Put her in ther sling and wandered round the living room in the dark, she finally nodded off at about 4. So I lay on the sofa with her til she seemed totally out of it and went upstairs to try and put her down so we could both sleep a bit. Waaaaahhh! What are you doing, cruel and selfish mother? Pick me up immediately! She's back in sling, asleep within moments, but obviously I daren't try taking her out again...

Unfortunately DH is leaving the house at 7 for a training course so can't even help out if she does her usual up at 7 to play for the day thing.

Well, mtime to catch up I guess...

arti you've really had it hard with the mastitis, you're really brave to carry on with the bf despite that. Well done for making a decision on the house, it must have been hard but there will be other houses.

lal drinking in bed, tut tut exciting sounding hair, any chance of a pic?

hello NJAN, like SL says I'm in Cambridge too, fancy a mini-meet-up?

v impressed with all you literary types, I'm on trashy novels at the mo as it's all my brain can cope with. Currently reading one featuring a "retired pop star turned girl detective" in which the first murder vitim is a cheerleader whose head is found boiling in a big pot

argh, am so rubbish my brain isn't up to catching up beyond the current page, sorry guys. See you all in the daylight.

Hi all! Am typing one handed on iPhone so expect misdakes! Inspired by the email, I have actually managed to read this whole thread.

V I am so sorry for your troubles. I did see your fb status too though andhope it will help at least a bit. Thinking of you.

LadyT ha ha that your phone broke the last thread! I remember when you posted loads of messages when my ds was born. I read it on my phone in my hospital bed while he was in nicu. It made me smile at a difficult time.

That all seems such a long time ago! My lo is nearly 5 months now and he's really well. Despite suffering with reflux he has gone from the 9th centile at birth to the 75th as of last week! He is a milk monster. After our rocky start we are still bf ing which seems to suit us both. Wesaw the paed this week and have agreed to take him off his reflux meds which I am realy pleased about as they had some unpleasant side effects and are annoying to administer.

More to come, phone cut me off!

JJ just saw your message. Hope she has gone down now and you are asleep. Love the sound of your book!

I'm currently keeping ds upright after a feed. He hasn't had a nightfeed for ages but he woke himself coughing at about 3am and it was exactly likesomeone else said: while I was settling him, he suddenly thought oooh I quite fancy a feed. I have tokeeep him upright for a good while before I put him down at night though so his milk goes down and his reflux doesn't bother him in the night.

I agree with everyone who said coughs seem to linger, he was I'll with a cold last week and is pretty much better now but the cough is still rely bothering him at night.

I'm really impressed by people going out! I still haven't got organised enough to get ds on the bottle so haven't left him for more than an hour or so. I must make a concerted effort soon.

Right, I'm going to try and put him down now and hopefully get a couplemore hours. Love to you all, I hope I will be less rubbishfrom now on and try to keep up a bit more.

Hi JJ, hope you are getting some sleep now, I thought my night was bad, but not in comparison to that

Its good to know that I'm not the only one who feels like running away ! I feel bad for wishing the baby time away but I find the 24-7 nature and sleeplessness really hard work.

I felt so broody for another about a week ago and now I am thinking - never again...

SL I am in Saffron Walden, so pretty close by. A meet up would be great, lots of my friends are still childless (or working) so I dont see anyone much

Thanks for making me feel welcome and sorry for lurking !

Rant and 'me' alert - despite having spent 2 nights up for most of the night with DD trying to relax her and ease the snot so she can breathe, as DH was away I was confident of more rest last night as he was home. Ha! Up 4 times, and he's just asked that I bring DD downstairs so he can have another hours kip . Please all send him a virtual bucket of cold water to pour on him. In fairness to him, he did spend an hour in the night walking round with a crying baby, but I was still up 4 times rocking and shushing and cuddling and feeding as well. DD is being particularly beautiful right now and loving playing with her muslin , so I've forgiven her. And I already feel less angry, seeing that JJ was here earlier and knowing that I wasn't the only one. I hope your DD is fast asleep now JJ and has no intentions of a 7am playtime.

NJAN welcome, a very good reason why we should stay here, the more the merrier! And I too have been wanting to run away in the last couple of days - with DD and her snotty nose and endless sadness and DH being away I've really wanted to go back to work, which surprised me as I've always wanted to be a SAHM (although it won't be possible just yet). Can we bring back the commune we started, so there's always someone to provide a cuddle to a sad baby and some respite to a tired Mum?

pixsix welcome back, so great to hear your LO is thriving - 75th centile what a little fatty (in the loveliest possible sense, I HEART babies with dimples on their thighs)

arti I hope the AB's have kicked in. Poor poor you, and as you were so much looking forward to your weekend

I will end on a positive note - I took trace's tip of looking for a lovely moment at bad times. The night before last I was sat in a steamy bathroom in the middle of the night, to clear DD's nose, and she had hold of my hand. As she dropped off she relaxed and let go, but then sneezed and woke herself in a panic, arms flailing everywhere until she found my finger to hold again and relaxed immediately. I was so happy that I'd reassured her

morning all,

jump hope you & dd got some sleep last night, no advice to offer I'm afraid but hope it gets better quickly

pixsix nice to see you back again

arti sorry to hear about the mastitis recurring, hope the ABs work so you can enjoy the rest of the weekend.

njan hi there, welcome . You'll find this thread as a great place to let of steam! I'm a SAHM as well so this helps me keep my sanity at times

Ds2 had an unsettled night last night as well, I think it was his teeth giving him trouble poor thing.

Have read all arguments for & against moving the thread & agree with those against moving I'm afraid. Same reasons, we do have people coming & going, it would be a shame for them not to be able to find us. I really do feel for V & hope feels able to come back to us soon

oh, and to add insult to injury, DH was farting all night and everytime I came back to bed, the room stunk!

Hello njan . Thanks for outing yourself - always good to hear from new people on the thread.

Pixsic- hello! Lovely to hear from your and so pleased DS is doing well. He is a cutie

ZJ: loved your story about DD clutching your finger. Good thing they can be sweet in the middle of the night... (as you may have guessed another bad night here)

JJ: does DD hate being in the dark and quiet? Cos otherwise I'd say try and keep lights dim etc. everywhere even if you're taking her downstairs, might help in signalling that this is nighttime. Feel free to ignore if this will obv not work.

One box packed. Hum. Cup of tea first...

zj x posted with you, bucket of cold water coming dh's way. So nice to hear the story of dd holding your hand, ds2 does the same thing if he wakes up, it really makes me feel I'm doing something right

lal must admit, I did giggle a little at your post (dh falling over). Poor man probably knows we're all laughing at him!

effie one box down, how many more to go?!

Morning,

NJAN, Hello and welcome to the thread.

Lal, your poor DH(supresses giggle), hope he isn't too injured.

Arti, I hope the ABs kick in soon. Enjoy Brighton, it is lovely there.

ZJ, Sending 1 bucket of cold water in your DH's direction. Love DD holding your had. It is so nice isn't it.

Pixsix, lovely to hear from you.

Jump, I am sorry for your bad night. I hope you manage to get some sleep during the day.

Effie, I hope your packing goes well.

DS2 woke us at 4 but went back to sleep, then woke up again at half 4 and actually wanted feeding that time. He is currently on the floor trying to roll over but gets onto his side and just rolls back again.

Hope everyone is ok this morning.

Oh and a little excitement here. I am looking at going back to college to do an Access course in Midwifery. Hopefully I'll get accepted and I can be a midwife.