March 09 - The spring babies have sprung

[jollyjoanne]

Thought I'd start us up a post-natal thread for the new mummies of March 09 (or thereabout!)

slick DH got a referral 3 days after Gabe was born and he was offered an appointment when Gabe was 5 weeks old, but he is 36 (they have an age thing).

We decided to do the implant for 3 years to make totally sure we didn't want any more and some docs won't refer til your youngest is 3.

amy Yep, ringsling is available, I just gave the jersey wrap to fearless though. Do you still want it?

aw - your lo's are adorable slick - I will now refer to FB as just Boab - he is delicious and just a chunky wee man - no fat about him! And am very envious of your dd2's gorgeous hair - can she send some to the southside for my dd1

5.25am start this morning - felt like a lie in! Yup - I do go to bed early - I'm normally asleep by 9.30pm and because dh does the 11pm feed I got around 8 hours sleep last night. slick I am a good sleeper - I don't wake when dh picks up Rosie to feed her or when he brings her back. That being said, apart from 2 under 2, I don;t have much stress at the moment - my sleep goes tits up when I am working and stressed.

laumiere it sounds like your doctor wasn't terribly tactful in how he put things. I think it is something that they have to raise before a "snip" and it sounds quite brutal - but many people don't consider it when making their decision. I know a couple who lost their child and he had the snip so they are now going through IVF to try to conceive again.

We have Rosie's jabs next week. I'd forgotten how horrid it is when they are this wee. Just seeing their faces crumple into tears is horrible. It was bad enough when Rosie got the heel prick test done - they couldn't get enough blood and she got stabbed so many times that I had to walk out of the room. Not nice. Sympathies to those of you with tongue tie - just anothere stressful thing - but the babies won't remember.

Another beautiful day here - am trying to decide if I brave enough to take both dd's out to a play park. Can I deal with dd1's tears when we have to leave and Rosie's tears if she gets hungry........!

Slick

We were told by the doctor now is the best time of the year to have it done because it the beginning of the financial year so they are fully funded

Argh ! Horrid night last night - I guess thanks to the jabs. She seemed so sleepy yesterday and DD1 was v. sleepy with the jabs that I thought I'd be on for a good night. She would only sleep on me or in bed with me and fed and fed and fed (but that might be because she didn't feed much in the day yesterday because she was so sleepy).

Your children are gorgeous Slick . TRhanks for sharing re your DD and her tongue tie - what a brave girl. DH was saying last night that we needed to be sure she needed it done but I'm fairly sure I'm going to push for it if they say there is one as I really don't want to have to go through it in even 6 months time let alone a few years. All the reading I've done on here suggests it really shouldn't be too traumatic for her at this stage.

All this talk of the snip makes me want to get DH down the docs . I mentioned it at my 6 week check when being quizzed on contraception methods and was told not to because I might change my mind. I'm 99.9% sure I won't despite having originally wnating 3 children but anyway, I know it'll be a while before I can get DH near a hospital again. Laumiere - what's the age thing ? Is 36 considered 'old enough' ? DH is almost 37 so its good to know we shouldn't have a problem when the time comes.

tongue tie snip done ! Not too much fuss and took - L was most disgruntled at being held still and having her mouth prised open but she cried probably less than having the jabs. Am sure feeding is already less painful.

Hurrah for Patrick's smiles, fearless -- it's such a lovely feeling when they happen.

And hurrah for the not-too-traumatic tongue snip, wheely -- what a relief that must be.

slick, FB is adorable! You inspired me to put a couple (relatively) new pics up -- they're already ten days old, but still...

Quick question for everyone do you have any reliable info on how many hours per day it's safe to swaddle? Rhys has been getting swaddled from around 11pm to 7am, but last night he got into such a state in the early evening hours that I had to swaddle him at 7pm just to get him through the early evening feed and he promptly fell asleep for 3 hours before the next feed (let me tell you, it's the first quiet adult dinner we've had in six weeks, and it was BLISSFUL). But that's 12 straight hours of swaddling. Too much?

Corgi - I don't know for sure but I can't see how 12 hours of swaddling could be a problem. 12 hours is how long a baby/child would normally sleep (ha ha) at night so would think its fine.

Fearless - sorry, I meant to say earlier that I'm really pleased that Patrick is smiling and also that you've gota quick referal which hopefully will only need to serve to put your mind at rest.

With snips if they're over 35 with kids it's easier to convince docs.

12 hours of sleep a night.

Bwah hah hah hah SNORT.

On the sleep topic, oh why now Gabriel has a recognisable pattern (sleep7.30-midnight, feed, sleep 12-3/4, feed, sleep 4-6/7, wake) do I get THE WORST insomnia I've had in ages?!!

corgi sometimes they go more than 12 hours, you get your evenings back and wake up before them - honest ! I don't think swaddling will harm little Rhys (who is looking gorgeous by the way!) - if it is helping him stay calm he must like it.

wheely that is great news that the feeding is less painful - and glad the snip wasn't too traumatic.

laumiere insomnia is the worst - you poor thing - I had it when I was pregnant and I just wanted to cry.

slick meant to say that your dd's have the same shaped eyes

thanks laumiere, definitely still interested in buying the sling and came across your email add as i was reading through all the posts to catch up (it's taking a while!) so have sent you an email, hope that's ok! a x

laumiere insomnia is terrible, hopefully though sheer exhaustion will catch up with you and force your body to sleep quite quickly!

I'm a bit concerned as I have developed a lump at the top of my leg. Am going to the doctor's on tuesday for my delayed 6 week check up (not allowed it until 8 weeks so they can do everything in one go and save time! !) so will ask doctor to have a look then. Am trying to be sensible and think about trapped/swollen muscles and not go OMG!Z!1!!IT'SCANCER!! but had a bit of a sleepless night anyway! I bet I just did something during labour and it's taken a while to come up...

corgi I don't think there is a limit on swaddling. dd1 was swaddled all the time as that what she liked, I think we moved to leave her arms out at about 6wks. DD2 never swaddled she hates being tied down.

wheely I glad the tongue op was not as bad as you thought it would be.

Well i'm off to get ready for my grandad's funeral so if anyone is around Enfield at 1ish and you see a hurst with hells angels outriders then my grandad.

Slick and Corgi the photos are lovely, very very cute little ones.

Wheely glad it went ok with the tongue tie snipping.

Laurmiere isn't that just typical about the sleeping and insomonia. Mae's sleeping pattern has generally been like that although the last two nights she has slept through to 6/7 ish which is really impressive but I just keep waking up at 4am ready to feed her (enormous boobs ready for feeding) and then she is still asleep so I just lie there till she does wake 2 hours later - very annoying.

Law I hope the bump turns out to be nothing serious - could it be some type of hernia?

Just a quick warning re those with hubbies getting the snip - does anyone remember a number of years ago the story line with Ian Beale after his vasectomy reversed (on its own) - well supposedly this happened to my parents - obviously we'd been oblivous as a young child at the time but my mum told me about it when it was on Eastenders.

Lizzie sorry about your grandad, hope the funeral goes OK.

Hope the funeral went ok Lizzie - I had my grandmothers on Monday although it wasn't as interesting as a hells angels funeral !

law - am sure its nothing to worry about although that's easy to say. Hope you don't worry too much until tuesday.

Think L had delayed reaction to her tongue tie snip or still suffering from the jabs...or both. She slept for 4 hours last night and then was up virtually for the rest of the night. Arrrrgghh. She's seemed a bit better today- more awake so fingers crossed for tonight as I have to drive dd1 to a party 1.5 hours away tomorrow and back. Its fancy dress and DD1 has decided her and L are going as fairies so I have to somehow fashion a fairy costume for a petite 9 week old.... wish me luck !!

Thanks guys, got some sleep last night so feel a bit better! It just feels a bit never-ending at the moment.

I'm also feeling a bit lonely as most of my friends are either childless or child-free and with two babies and DH on nights I am starting to feel a bit isolated. Any suggestions?

Amy I haven't received an email!

Matthew slept 7pm till 4am this morning without waking up

So I feel totally revitalised

My and dd and Matthew went to lunch today at a really posh chinese restaurant and it was lush, dd has a bit of a cold, so we all went to bed for an hour when we got back!!

laumiere I made a shed load of really special friends through baby and toddler groups, and we still meet up socially and with the children now and dd is 3 and a half!
Would you try to go to a local group? Your local sure start will have some groups

My local NHS does not do a 6 week check for me any more, but baby get checked at 8 week when they have their jab.

I am also a little bit concerned about matthew preferring sleeping and looking to one side and I panic about flat head, but I guess it will pass ?

oh, how odd! sorry laumiere, i will try again now. let me know if it doesn't come through...maybe i have the wrong email add?
it is hard being stuck in with one baby all day, let alone 2! i agree with lilimolly about trying different groups out - could you maybe ask the NCT in your area to add you to a postnatal group too?

Ah. Fearless you minx - you threw me there. I was thinking, 'eh? Brightonrock?' But I have seen through your cunning disguise! Mwah ah ah ah ah.... Glad you are starting to get smiles from Patrick now, am sure there'll be many more.

Wheely well done on getting the tongue tie sorted - it should def make a big difference to the feeding and every child should be able to stick their tongue out!

Law Hope the lump is nothing, Wheely might be right, maybe a hernia or something? Will keeping our fingers crossed for you, let us know.

Laumiere I too suffer from insomnia and it is incredibly frustrating - drives DH mad that I get opportunities to sleep and just can't. Since my pregnancy, I have been concentrating on my breathing when I'm trying to get to sleep and any time a thought comes to my head, I try to push it away and just think again on the breathing. I have found this can really help. Worth a shot? Re; feeling isolated, you're not alone there and as Lily suggested, I would try a mother and toddler group. I made good friends from there too with DD1. Am still trying to get round to going to the one here with the wee ones on a Wed, but haven't got round to it yet.

Thanks y'all for kind comments re 'trouble makers' and the old hands and wrist scenario. Meep I think the shape of the eyes and the face are about the only thing that is the same between DD1 and DD2! I can't believe how one is so dark and the other so fair! It's mad how you can do the same thing - have sex, get pregnant, give birth (oh, if only it were all that simple...!) - and they come out completely different! Different personalities so far too! (Lots of !!! in this post, I think I need to calm down. (!!))

Well after a 6 day full on stint, with my hands and wrists hurting like buggery and my body just aching everywhere, I was also giving my DH a night off. So I had fed the kids early, ran him a bath for him coming in, (it was pissing down and he cycles everywhere) made him a nice tea with some wine (Like a good little wife )and then he went off to play guitar with his pal for the night and then sleep through.

FB did great, he slept from 8.30ish til 2.45am, but then did DD2 not just scream and get me up about 4 times?? (there didn't seem to be anything particularly wrong apart from dummy retrieval, damn those things!) Man, I was pissed off. So bugger all sleep again and then I was up with them all this morning for brekkie. I had to get DH up at 10am as DD2 was refusing to nap and screaming the place down and I was losing the will to live. He took over and I managed to get sleep and feel human again.

I find it soooooooo hard by the end of the week when I've had them all, day in day out and no time or break to myself at some point. I start to feel trapped, esp as I'm struggling to pick them up half the time which makes it even more frustrating. I'm just hoping this stage passes soon. I really think that because I had two pregnancies close together, I am just now unfit and my body can't deal with all constant bending and lifting and being on my feet for 14+ hours a day.

Anyone else feel like this?

Really really sorry for the mammoth post - may be the only chance I get today!

Wow Lily - what a good boy Matthew is. Send him round to have words with Lara would you ? . At least that addresses that nagging doubt I have in the back of my mind that its because L is breastfed that she doesn't sleep well (Matthew is bfed isn't he). DD1 was sleeping that sort of length at about this age and she was ff, hence why I wonder !

Fearless - great disguise, we almost didn't see you there . I was bought up just outside of brighton and my parents are still there. I'd love to move back too ! Are in Brighton itself ?

Had a mummy lion moment today - we went to teh fair of dd's future school and dh and dd1 were queuing for ages for face painting which is dd1's fauvouritist thing. Suddenly tehy come over to me, dd1 sobbing and no face painted. Apparently the woman doing it and suddenly said she wasn't doing anymore. Anyway, I marched dd1 back and got it done (without being nasty I hasten to add). God, what will I be like when 2 need protecting from the unfairness of life - sob .

Am working on DH. He'd love to live there too but he'd need to find the right job there !

I drink and feed. Usually only one glass but might have 2 tonight - DH and I are having a posh picnic in our living room watching eurovision and I have a little bottle of champagne to drink (yes we are that sad that we have to watch eurovision for entertainment !)