Dec 08 - Nanny Anne's Apprentices.

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ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! VEEEEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGGGGGIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

I could not watch the penalties!!! It was horrible! But we won!! YAY!!!

DS2 slept from about 22:45 until 6:35!! He woke us up and I looked at the time expecting it to be about 5. These long nights are normally a fluke so I am expecting to go back to 5 o'clock wakings.

Verso I hope you are ok and are getting more sleep now.

Hope you are all ok.

morning all

bisou wow at your posts! You must take notes or something to be able to get everything down!! So far we haven't done anything about trying to get him down to one feed a night, everytime we try he wakes up crying. We will have to make a big effort though!

You're right btw about the conflicting advice, especially from the HVs!

JJ, thinking of your friends & their little girl, hope it all goes well.

veggie sorry to hear ds1 isn't well again, hope he gets better soon & that the rest of you don't get it. Oh, I tried your Nanna Mac's answer this morning & I just got 'why' again!

turnip quick question if you don't mind. Do you have any ideas where we could get a rug from? We want a very thick one, almost like carpet, have tried the usual places (Ikea, John Lewis etc) but they're not thick enough. Sorry to pester you, you should never have told us what you do

Bloody Hell. DD2's nights are getting worse and worse. My little girl who used to sleep a 7 hour chunk followed by a 5 hour chunk woke every two hours last night. That is the worse night she has had since the day she was born. She has been waking approx every 3 hours all week and that was bad enough. Amy ideas what I can do? I BF her at every wake otherwise she goes mental. However I think she wants it for comfort mainly as she doesn't feed very vigorously. Help!

JJ, I'm thinking of your friends and their DD.

Arti Could she be having a growth spurt?

Now of to GP. I'm seeing a different one this time so will see what they say about my knee.

Help me not to be bitter! Here's the thing: DH woke up this morning "feeling dreadful". Says he has a temperature. Took it - 36.9C. Has taken day off work and taken to his bed .

So...

as I say, help me not to be bitter!

Tablets working I think - at least I feel a lot more human than last week. Thanks for thinking of me everyone.

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Think you'll need a lot of sweets and sugar to avoid being bitter on that one. Ummmm thinking very hard on how to make you feel ok about it. All I can think of is smile and go make yourself a cup of tea make a big noise about it then drink it but don't make him one.

verso glad you're feeling a little brighter. Am with you on the dh thing - mine is on his 4th day in bed...seems a bit snotty and has a husky voice. I guess as a teacher the voice thing is a bit of a pain, but come on - 4 days!!!! He didn't wake up till 1pm yesterday then complained that he barely slept last night - that's because he's gone nocturnal! The only good thing is that I've been able to leave Phoebe home rather than drag her on the school run
You should watch 'man cold' on youtube - it's hilarious

Kayz -hope gp goes well...has the face calmed down?

Veggie - can I pick your brain too? P has quite dry skin which seems to be getting worse and more widespread. HV suggested E45 which has helped her legs but not really anything else. SHe loves having it rubbed on her and smiles and kicks, but when I put it on her face she SCREAMS! Do you think it stings? I just used vaseline on her face last night which she didn't object too, but not sure if that'll really help. ANy thoughts O Skin Guru?

Arti - sorry about your nights. Maybe it's the growth spurt thing, although that seems to be an option at any point! P is still a very frequent feeder.I get excited if she goes 2.5 hours between feeds. Most of me is happy to go with the flow...she's only young...blah blah blah...but a part of me thinks I should be doing something different. My friend's baby is 6 weeks younger than P, and after a month of not knowing what she's doing, she's started Gina Ford and after 4 days he's now feeding 3-4 hourly by day and only wakes once at night. That makes me think I'm going wrong somewhere. If there were no other babies in the world I would be happy with P's pattern (or lack of) - she's so very happy and placid and healthy - why can't I help comparing?

and who was it whose baby does the hands to the ears headphone style thing? Was it KMP? Phoebe has started putting her left hand up to behind her left ear when she cries don't know if it means anything!

Bisou - you are wonderwoman! Great to hear you sounding so well and happy

Oh Kayz I watched it was painful poor Eduardo, he looked so sad he was so brave coming up first. DH was at his sisters and they don't have sky but he left in time to get to a pub to watch the penalties and found a nice bunch of Arsenal fans, which is lucky because his sister lives down the road from The Chelsea Stadium!

Rosemerta Turnip will obviously give a better place but we bought some thick rugs from B&Q for our London place we needed a large rug a runner and a smaller rug (we had a bit of a dodgy floor which needed covering for the tennants). I managed to get all three that matched and they looked quite decent.

Verso I'm glad you are feeling better. I think you should do what Veggie suggested. Make yourself a cup of tea very loudly.

GP wasn't too bad. She said my knee problem will be caused by pregnancy hormones and has given me ibuprofen. She said as I didn't have a bad reaction to the make up there isn't any need for her to give me any cream.

'man cold' YouTube genius!! still bitter though. Also have snotty/husky baby who wants to do nothing but feed and posset today, poor lamb. Nothing more pathetic and heartrending than the sound of a croaky baby trying to cry .

Sorry Trace xposts. Skin on the face is more sensitive than elsewhere so it could be they something in the e45 that is stinging her. You could get some prescribed but actually the vasoline is perfect although a little thick so hard to apply. You can rub it between your fingers to soften it or get some epaderm or 50/50 these are really just the same as vasoline buy easier to apply. If it is just small areas on the face just use the vasoline. Basically it protects the skin but doesn't let it lose moisture so the skins natural moisture can be restored. In fact a good way to keep your hands nice and moisturised it to cover them in vasoline and put cotton gloves on then leave them over night. You'll never have dry hands. Jerry Hall does it.

Trace J's feeds are a bit random, don't compare yourself with others do what works for you if you want to try out introducing a routine because you think it is right for you and P then go for it but it has to be right for you both, if what you are doing now works then don't change.

I have an explaination for the ear and hair rubbing bug J is screaming so has to wait

Daisy I know what you mena about violent games and nephews - my 10 y/o Nephew plays Play Station with my DH and gets irritated with my dh (when they are a team) as he doesn't "just run out there and shoot them in the head" (nice)
bisou massive post - wow well done. Your baby is 1 week younger and 2kg's heavier than my B - impressive!
Veggie are you talking about me asking about the ear touching and head rubbing?

trace sorry missed your post!! Yes! it was me with the headphones thing!! He's still doing it!! Even had him checked for ear infection but nothing....

Oh Verso your poor little poppit. Ds2 is quite capable of crying right now I think he is in the last days of feeling crappy his spots seem to be crusting over and the big ones are looking less angry. He is still so itchy though. Poor thing has them everywhere, even under his little balls.

With the ear rubbing it can of course be an indication of an ear infection but more often it is a self regulation or self soothing technique. In a way they are trying to copy the way we pat them to help them settle themselves when they are upset. They can do many things including ear rubbing or pulling, hair rubbing and even hair pulling, to the point of pulling hair out. It doesn't mean they are stressed to the point of wanting to pull their hair out it is just a way they are trying to settle and well they don't really have the co-ordination to let go I guess. Does that make sense.

Morning girls

It's half ten and I've got the telly on, which is shameful. My mother would not be impressed. I put it on about an hour ago to keep me going on the working machine and somehow it's stayed on as all these house tarting and money saving shows are so addictive. Guuuuuuurrrrr. Must do something less boring instead. KMP, you did make me laugh about lolling around like Hugh Hefner. I suppose he never gets out of his robe, you are quite right. Why would he?

Verso, I am so glad you are feeling humanoid at least, as that is progress of sorts. I've never understood the 'retire to bed as I am too ill even to recline on the sofa' thing. Only ever done that a couple of times in my entire life (once with proper 'flu, once with food poisoning). Bitterness is one of those emotions that will spoil your life, even if wholly justified. Chuck it out the window. Not worth it. A waste of your precious life. Same goes for any of its negative siblings, such as envy or regret. Every time you start to feel any of those, check yourself, stop, think about the things which mean you are lucky instead, then go and give yourself a little treat as a reward, anything from a nice coffee, listening to a song you like, a fancy bubble bath or a pair of shoes!

Jump, your poor friends. Let us know how it goes. I can't begin to imagine how I would feel if DD had to have surgery...

Bisou, your DS sounds like he is thriving! My DD is one of the oldest on here and last Thursday she weighed 12lb 6oz, so quite little really. Mind you, we were given so many clothes it is nice to get a chance to wear them. And yes, you are bionic, no doubt about it! I hope work is going well. I didn't win the lottery last night so sadly I won't be flying Maharajah class to Sydney, buying the best seats in the house to see you perform and enjoying a spot of (I presume) lovely sun. Not this week anyway....

Arti, my goodness, it sounds tough. I hope things calm down soon. How did the survey go? They can't do mine until next week and I am a little nervous - I have a strict budget for works inside and out and I don't want all the money to be used up on structural works or damp coursing...

Kayz, I wonder if your knee thing is like my 'post-natal arthritis'? My wrists, particularly the right one, are v tender. I try to ignore it but I wonder if they will ever be right again. Playing badminton the other night was probably a bit stupid as it's been worse since. Ibuprofen will help as they are anti-inflammatory. If they don't work, ask for Voltarol, which are stronger.

Cat, I am so sorry you had a row last night after your first evening out. We are all cheering you on. I think you will all end up so used to the hoover that it will be a soundtrack to your daily life in perpetuity

Right, off to get out of my pyjamas, shower and make myself beeyootiful.

Yeah both you and Trace I meant to say something the other day but kept forgetting. Trace reminded me.

Oh and I was a bit naughty ds1 had normal poo this morning and mo further spews so I sent him to nursery, I know I shouldn't have but I think he it has more to do with a very bad diet last week rather than something nasty. I'm actually a little worried he may be getting constipated, I wish he would eat fruit!!!! And that I didn't have to hide veg.

thanks veggie - yeah I think it must be a self soothing thing - he does it when he's tired a lot - then sometimes falls asleep like that - it's funny as it looks like he's trying to block out noise like he can't get to sleep!

I meant rowing machine, not working machine. Freudian or what.

Cat thinking of your Hoover (moving onto British colloquialisms now) sleep soundtrack, ds1 always listened to a baby classics CD to get off to sleep. He now still listens to music at 3 to go to sleep but has moved onto nursery rhymes, my brother jokes that as a teenager he will be needing death metal to get him off to sleep.

Oh that Lilly Allen song is on 'The Fear' I love this song. Oh and I love coffee. Ds2 is asleep in my arms at the moment he gets a bit upset if I try to move him. I could probably take him upstairs and try to settle him but it is a good excuse to sit here on the couch and not do any house work.

Oh and last night it was late and I couldn't get off to sleep so I decided to step outside this thread and have a look at some other threads. Oh they're a bit cranky out there aren't they, they either take things too seriously, miss read peoples intentions, or they are just down right mean and bitchy. So I ran back very quickly to this post you are all so much nicer here.

LadyT I have the TV on too AGAIN!! But I'm inspired by you, and I'm off to get changed (de-hef) and get out for the day - oh and I LOVE what you said about negative thougts - I'm just going to buy that leather change bag i've been wanting! Oh and I feel better your O is similar weight to B (well a little heavier but she is a little older too I guess)
Well done you for the rowing machine in the morning - I can only manage to get on the xtrainer in the afternoon as I've made myself feel guilty all day, however it'd be nice to get it out of the way earlier...
Verso your dh
Arti I think it's a growth spurt - Although I've continued to have good nights I've been having nightmare days (hence the day time robe wearing)
Veggie hope your DS1 is OK at nursery today and hope J starts feeling better soon
Cat did you sort it out with your DP? We haven't been out (ok twice when my family was here) without B as our inlaw lives too far away to just drop him off unfortunately.

LadyT you are wise and sagacious indeed (and right). I think I need some retail therapy! Maybe a wee cup of tea first...

Is it ok if I kill DH????

He was meant to be at the job centre on Tuesday but forgot. He rang them and went today. They have stopped his money for that day and have restarted the claim from yesterday. But he needs to go back in tomorrow morning and we were meant to be going to York. But to be able to go to York afterwards means it will cost £25.40 as we will have to get the bus to Malton which is £5.50 return each and then Malton to York return is £7.20 return each.

I suppose in his defence he was at hospital Monday and Tuesday for ECG's and to have a heart monitor fitted which he had to take back on Tuesday.

Ah, but you see Verso, I speak from (bitter!) experience. My late DH's estate still isn't properly wound up after four years. This is due in part to the dread machinations of his first wife (they had been divorced five years by the time I met him, I hasten to add), which I won't bore you with, save to say that it made a terrible time for me far worse and resulted in my being banned from contact with my two stepchildren. It was hideous. There were spiteful emails, threatening texts, threats of taking it to the papers. (She has form for this: when my DH left her many years ago, she had a newspaper column in the Daily Mail about it). I tried not to feel bitter but it was very difficult, especially lying in bed at night. And I don't know why she bothered, really - she was remarried with another lovely child as well as the two she'd already got. I was widowed at a very young age and with no kids. I could have let the bitterness envelop me (it did at times). Even now, now and then I get all furious thinking about it. But whenever I do, I try to stop myself, and THINK. Because I don't want want that mould, bitterness, in my life. Not even one speck. And the reason why my Dh's ex was the way she was, was purely because of bitterness. Not merely about the break up of her marriage many years before, but because of general resentment and envy of others. So...here endeth my rather dull bit of explanatory biog I hope you get yourself lots of treats. You deserve them!

KMP, I was only on the rower because DP told me that it was more effective before breakfast. And I only ever manage a few minutes. I am toning up, but UNDERNEATH the flab. And not really losing weight. Hmmm!