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daisydora · 06/03/2009 17:15

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rosmerta · 14/03/2009 07:38

morning all,

cat Yay on T sleeping through, boo on you being awake!

I'll be joining you in having lots of caffeine today though. My first night out with friends last night but I still had to do the 3am feed so am shattered now. I only had a couple of glasses of cheerfulness as well! Oh well, seeing ds2 smile when I lean over to pick him up makes it worthwhile

kayz at MIL, honestly! When she meets new people does she ask for a full life story before deciding whether or not to like them?

It does make me glad I have a normal & lovely MIL, though her advice is a little dated. She did suggest putting teabags on ds2's eyes when he had a little eye infection, I think he was about 2 weeks old!

I haven't seen any of Comic Relief, though we've taped a lot of it. I'll watch some of it today no doubt. wg I'm looking forward to seeing the Flashdance tonight as well!

veggie well done on the jeans, am

Seems like its going to be a nice day today so we're going to have a family day, think we're taking a picnic to Kew Gardens. All the crocuses are flowering so should be lovely.

Oh before I forget, I have to get a teaching practice sorted for my tutorial on Monday, am doing it on self-induction. I can't remember if anyone tried self-induction methods when we were pregnant, if so would you mind emailing me what you tried & if you think it worked. I'd really appreciate it, tia!

katie3677 · 14/03/2009 07:58

Kayz give yourself a break, we all have different metabolisms and can't all look like Kate Moss, just give it time. I have managedtoput on all the weight I lost which is why you haven't seen me on the weightloss thread this week

traceface · 14/03/2009 08:22

poorly dd1 + greedy dd2 = BAD NIGHT! I think i would have got more rest if I had poked needles in my eyes all night
Oh well - no plans for today so it doesn't really matter.

Kayz - don't be too hard on yourself. You are doing really well and you have two gorgeous boys who love you. ds2 is only very young - you shouldn't have lost too much weight yet. Are you still doing some BF? I lost track - sorry!

kayzr · 14/03/2009 08:26

No haven't been BF since he was about 6 weeks old.

kayzr · 14/03/2009 08:30

Bloody DS1 pressed the mouse button before I had finished!!!

I was going to say. Sorry for a bad night Trace I hope DD1 feels better soon.

waitinggirl · 14/03/2009 08:52

yay yay yay yay yay caaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!!!!!!!!!!

that made my day (yes, i know you got up and didn't exactly have a full night's sleep, but yay yay yay nonetheless)

trace - sorry about yours

as regards weight - i'm still bf so not even thinking about losing weight yet, but might start to try cutting out the cakes/chocolates/biscuits that i've been eating (and all from someone who didn't have a sweet tooth until the birth).

off to a singing day with dd - leaving dh at home to cook for us when we get back to watch rugby. ah, domestic bliss...

waitinggirl · 14/03/2009 08:54

so says she finishing the prawn crackers from last night's chinese takeaway for breakfast!

rosmerta · 14/03/2009 09:00

lol wg

I'm wondering if I can persuade dh to take us to the greasy spoon for breakfast, I know it won't do my diet any good but so what!!

CatDean · 14/03/2009 09:36

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LadyThompson · 14/03/2009 09:38

Just a quickie as DP has taken DD out for a bit and I need to get some things done.

Cat, maybe this is the start of something big! DD had one or two sleeping throughs and then they got more frequent. It is only the last couple of weeks that she had jettisoned the 4am feed and now does 12-8 which I find v civilised. Babies are funny, they suddenly seem to turn a corner don't they? (And then turn back again, lol).

Kayz - I really do know just how you feel about the weight. Truly I do. It really bothers me, probably a bit too much. I am losing a miniscule amount of weight per week, despite watching what I eat and doing (admittedly a small) amount of exercise every day. I am trying to take the view that it will all accumulate and be noticeable by the summer. But I am not convinced. So I am going to have to work much harder. You have two kids so goodness knows how you have the time to do anything. Are you managing walks? Have you got any exercise dvds?

Oh, and on the subject of dodgy German I once got myself into trouble at a bi-lingual wedding by saying Ich spiele gern flote. It means I like playing the flute, which I do, but it meant something quite different to a very drunk Boris from Dortmund, and he refused to board the coach from the reception as he was hoping for - well, I will leave you to speculate. My boyfried of the time was none too chuffed, I can tell you. It wasn't my fault! But I have rested by schoolgirl German since then.

ZJ, very envious of the Ice Hotel...glad the thrush is dissipating a bit...

artichokes · 14/03/2009 09:43

Yay for SuperCat's super T!

And Kayz, your MiL actually sounds pathological. Has you DH ever told her that he finds it unacceptable for her to talk about you that way? I think I would want him to set some clear ground rules if she wants to be an active part of your family. I know how you feel re weight. I have had to take a break from the fatties thread as nothing seems to shift th lbs.

Zoe - you have been to the ice hotel??? I have always wanted to go. Tell me it was gorgeous and understated rather than tacky and Dusney-esque. If you do that I might persuade DH!

Another nightmare night here. DD2 just doesn't sleep well anymore. It is going on way too long to just be a goeth spurt. However I am modelling myself on Trace and listening to LadyT and not being bitter but instead counting my considerable blessings ( well, I am doing thatmost of the time... There may have been a little ranting earlier.)

SybilFaulty · 14/03/2009 10:36

Brings a whole new meaning to the "magic flute", lady T, which is of course the opera that our lovely Bisou is in just now....

I've only read the last 2 posts. Arti, M has lost the ability to sleep through as well - he only wakes once so I am jolly lucky, but he used to do a 6 hour stretch and now doesn't. But still, onwards and upwards. Can you get a little bit of kip today?

Thanks for all the kind words and thoughts re LUcy and her blood test. She was fine, I was (just about) OK and we will have the main results on Tues. She has no obvious sympotms of anything nasty (as I have googled) but clearly until we get the results we won't know for sure. I'll keep you posted.

I had a call from a dear friend last night at 10.30pm whose husband has been having an affair and has moved out. She has suspected things were wrong for a while but didn't think he'd have an affair. I padded down the road in my pjs to see her and did not get home til 2am. So am a bit tired, but she is in absolute bits, the poor thing. I am counting blessings here as well.

Will now do some jobs and try to find a few mins to read thread. Hope you are all well.

Veggiemummy · 14/03/2009 10:58

Oh Syb that is terrible for her. At least the one blessing she can count is having you as a buddy.

Cat sending you strong caffiene vibes.

I'm sorry your feeling down Kayz but remember your not the only one were all with you that's why the fatties thread.

Lady T a friend of mine back home is married to an Austrian. In Australia we call a cafe latte just a latte, so when visiting her family in Austria they all went to a cafe and he said to the waitress can I have... In german and then just ...a latte. The waitress looked a completely shocked and the table was silent then his wife started laughing and talking to her family in german then they all exploded into laughter. Apparently he has asked the waitress to erm...pleasure him orally.

jumpjockey · 14/03/2009 11:19

Wah! Am loving all the German blunders. My favourite is that you have to remember to say "Mir ist heiss" for I am hot, and "Mir ist kalt" for I am cold, if you say "ich bin..." it means either horny or frigid

Thanks for all the info about bedtimes, it looks like just going with the flow is the best idea. In the end she woke up shortly after I wrote that post, which may have been the power nap ZJ mentioned. In the end she had her normal bedtime but woke up for a feed at 11.30 rather than 2-3ish as usual

Cat you're completely right that they're doing so much learning at the moment - and whenever dd is awake she's a frenetic movement machine - so maybe they need to sleep at different intervals. Fantastic news about the sleep through for you! Funny about the feed, but they can be odd little buggers when they want to, maybe he was just a bit dopey after so much sleep!

kayz your MIL really is a piece of work. Can you perfect a calm and serene exterior whenever you see her, and have a punchbag at home with her face on it?

zj really glad to hear your boob is on the mend.

ros good for you having a night out hurrah for cheerfulness. Have a lovely day at Kew

arti sorry to hear the sleeping through isn't working so well, hope you manage to get a nap yourself to catch up.

sybil your poor friend - like veggie said, what a fanstatsic friend you are for her.

well we've got a sort of day of singing ahead as well, the choir Dh and I sing in (except that I'm on ML at the moment!) has a concert coming up soon and they're doing a rehearsal today for a few hours in the church where the gig will be. It's my first time to hear a lot of the pieces and hopefully dd will be fairly well behaved - whenever we've taken her to mass she loves the music, having got very familiar with it during her first 9 months When she doesn't like something she lets us know, and the acoustic in the church is huuuuge so that combined with her sturdy lungs could make for some fun! She's having a nap at the mo, has been down since 10 hence my active MN and FBing...!

kayzr · 14/03/2009 11:31

Now Jump that is a wonderful idea. Boxing is meant to be quite good for weight loss. You can get these, maybe I should get one!!

Sybil Your poor friend, I hope she starts to feel a bit happier soon. You are a great friend.

LadyT I'm not getting much walking in. My knee stops me from doing anything much further than 1 mile. I'm more used to doing 5-10 mile walks. I do have an exercise DVD that I'm going to start doing.

LadyThompson · 14/03/2009 11:34

Syb, that's awful about your friend. Poor girl. Does she have kids?

I would love to go to the Ice Hotel. Come on Zo, give us some more details. My late DH did some filming there once and got to go. He also zipped around on those skidoo things, watching the Northern Lights. I watched a documentary recently with Joanna Lumley in, doing something similar. One of my dreams is to see the Northern Lights and have a Husky ride (am I spelling Husky right? It looks wrong) whilst I wear a white fur (or fake fur anyway) hat. DP knows this and has promised that he will take me to do that one day. My other one is to go to a proper Viennese ball in a fancy dress and dance all night. Obviously that is more elaborate as it requires dance lessons etc. I am such a child

All this singing - how lovely, Jump. Verso does singing as well, doesn't she? And WG's off on her singing day. And obviously Bisou is a proper sooper dooper singer who does it for a living. What a tuneful bunch. I used to sing in a choir when I was a teenager - thing I most enjoyed singing was Faure's Requiem, it's still a favourite. And anything by John Rutter.

Arti, it MUST be just a phase. But what a tiring phase

kmp1 · 14/03/2009 12:47

Hello,
Must admit I have skimmed the posts again as it is so hard to keep up!
Arti sorry about the sleeping problems - B seems to have really settled back to normal feeding without too much fussing, so it was either a 3mth growth spurt or due to the jabs that he was irritable.
Went to our Aussie passport appointment yesterday. had to meet DH there as he was at work for the morning and getting the photo witnessed etc, so he was meeting me and coming on his bike. B kicked off hungry on the tube so since I was early decided to feed him in Cafe Nero - right at the back - but of course i had no cash, and they don't take cards, so had to tell them I was waiting for someone and would be buying a coffee when he arrived with cash - of course DH got held up leaving work and then went to the wrong Cafe Nero, so I left in shame after breastfeeding for 25 minutes and buying nothing Anyway, we had a late lunch at a Brazilian place I like (since we were near Waterloo) and I totally did a "LadyT" and managed lunch and a couple of wines with him in the Bjorn - unclipped. I had a salad since it was cold & was my first time at potentially spilling food on his head! We passed him back and forth a couple of times, and apart from the embarrasing attire (dh sitting there in all his cycling lycra) all went really well!
Hopefully 10 days time he's a dual passport holder, so the day it arrives I'm going to dress him in his "Wallabies" outfit and green & gold beanie and take a pic with passport in hand!
Kayz - horrified at your MIL - just when I think she can't sound any worse, she does or says something else!! Whoever it was mentioning me in my robe - exactly!! Most of the time I'm slopping around in robe, dog chewed slippers, and frizzy hair - add to that my DH head to toe in Lycra most days - not a pretty sight!
Not sure about the orange tongue thing?????
Sybil awful for your friend - I went through that with NO kids involved - in the US with a husband and a double life etc.. (well sort of) so I really feel for her. nothing but time will fix it - nice she has you so close by though.
Veggie I LOL-ed big time at your German language story!!
Really good news on the sleeping through front Cat Shame its started on your DH's offer to do night feed! DH has to be really pushed to do an early nappy change on the weekend... but he's really softening up to the change bag I want to buy after LadyTs advice to avoid bitterness however I still can't justify it, so I'm going to have an Ebaying clearout weekend! OK off to take photos of dresses and bags I don't use anymore!

Bisou · 14/03/2009 13:21

LadyT it's baby J's conception birthday in about 6 days. I think we'll celebrate it this year the same way we did last year The story about 'Lunch' made me laugh too - was he toilet trained? I hope he's still kickin about down at that farm and that his name hasn't been self fulfilling...

Cat our baby has more milk than the guidelines say, if it's any consolation. Having said that, he is above the 'normal' range for growth, but I'm not worried about him being overweight as he's long too - so he's proportional. Just another King Kong like LadyT's friends' baby Anyway I wasn't about to deny him milk when he was obviously hungry, and the doctor said not to worry as his growth wound probably start to slow a bit and he'd fall back into the normal range. Which seems to be happening, as I've noticed he's now starting to take less milk each day than he did before (down from over 1000-1200ml a day, to now between 800-900). Anyway is it the night feeds you're trying to cut down on? Because we're doing that now, and it seems to be going ok, though it's hard work. He goes to bed between 7-8pm, and was waking every 3 hours almost on the dot! So I've been reducing 2 of these feeds by 10mls every night, and keeping the feed in the middle where he can have as much as he wants. He has grumbled a bit as we're now down to only 10ml for the small feeds, but no screaming, so I know he's only doing it out of habit rather than hunger. Tonight though he will just get the dummy, or failing that he'll get 10ml of water if he gets too upset. We are also spacing out the day feeds more now too, as he was just 'grazing' all the time rather than finishing a bottle. Which meant he was having a snack every 1/2hr or so! So hopefully with this new routine in the day, he will cope better at night as he will be more used to longer periods in between feeds. It would be really interesting actually to do a bit of a survey to see everyones routines, for those who are keeping one of course! We didn't really have one till this week.

Rosmerta what a shock to hear about your cousin It's scary to think there are people out there with such violent tendencies, it's a reminder to be careful although sometimes it's just a matter of wrong place, wrong time isn't it? Anyway I'm so glad he's ok, he must be counting his lucky stars to still be alive!

jump hope your friends' daughter is recovering well. The thought of my little one being seriously sick is one of my greatest fears, as I'm sure it is for every parent.

arti you are too kind. I am terrible at: geography, remembering peoples names, being tidy, housework in general, and listening (I get a bit over excited and talk over the top of people sometimes, though not intentionally of course!) I also look a fright most of the time - pretty much all of those Facebook pics are my 'public' face so not a realistic indication of how I am 99% of the time. But thank you for your kind words. We should definitely pair up our DCs one day. If she is anything like her mother I'd be proud to have her as a DIL And I've got all this great classic MIL material ready to spout too after hearing all the wise things Kayz' MIL says [ffwink]

rosmerta how many times does S feed a night? J was feeding 3 times, with the 4th at 6/7am when he woke. Tonight I've just settled him for the first time without milk at his 10pm feed time, and it was fairly painless for us both, hurrah! I just reswaddled him there in the cot, popped the dummy in and went 'shhhh' for a minute and he fell back asleep after about 30 secs! Then when he stopped sucking the dummy so much (about 2 mins) I just took it out, and he's still asleep now, over two hours later. Of course now I've said this, he may wake up just to prove me wrong Arti it sounds like your DD was doing what J was too - starting to wake up more frequently for comfort feeds (he usually passes big farts in the night so feeding helped him to get them out, although this created more in turn!) We've gradually getting him back to sleeping longer periods though, with the above method. Do you guys use a dummy? I know some people don't like using them, but sucking is the only thing that will calm him when he's expecting a bottle/boob. It often takes him a minute to realise it's not the same shape as the bottle/boob though (nipple confusion) so we just have to hold it there until he grabs it properly with his mouth but then it's a lifesaver! This is actually the only time he uses a dummy now too; in the night for weaning him off those feeds. He doesn't seem to need it during the day, as if he grizzles I just pick him up and do something else to distract him from it until the next feed/sleep/bath etc. Anyway hope you find some way soon of getting back some sleep in the night!

Verso sounds like you have another child to look after with your (d)H's shanannigans! Perhaps you need to treat him as such too - with ignoring bad behaviour and rewarding the good? Therefore a few 'oh well, never mind' whenever he complains of man flu, but then lots of kisses and OTT praise when he does anything to help out?

LadyT I'm sad you didn't win your first class trip to Auz - guess I'll just have to work on getting some principal roles at Covent Garden then eh? Or.. I suppose I could settle for ENO ps: don't worry you're not missing out on too much sun, it was pi$$ing down rain here tonight. Bah!

Kmp if you do end up swingin by Sydney on your trip to Oz, I'll give you all a free backstage tour of the Opera House!

Katie I love the look of the Bumbo, thanks for recommending it! We've found a shop here that sells them and will pop there next week to get one as DS will be ready for it very soon I think. He is getting much stronger at holding his head up, and loves to watch us in the kitchen as we cook etc.

Veggie I'm sorry you're sad about not having a girl. My poor uncle & aunt had 5 girls (!) I too might be feeling the same as you when I (hopefully) have a 2nd - DH keeps talking about 'if we have a girl' and I'm worried he's jinxing it! But then I think about all the positives - having 2 boys is great, because 1) They can wear all the same clothes 2) They can play with all the same toys 3) They will have a lovely brotherly relationship which is something special (DH and his only brother are very close), and 4) having any child that is happy & healthy is a true blessing. And remember - your 'female line' doesn't stop with you, as if one of your DS' has a girl, then she is a direct descendant of yours, oui?

Kimberly you poor thing and poor little Judah! What a horrible scare, so glad he seems to be ok now. xx

Cat and WG I'd love to hear your routines if you have time to share them? Now that we're starting to get into a routine too, I'm very interested to see everyone else's too.

zoe I'm so relieved to hear you are responding to treatment. I think mine just got so bad because the doctor didn't think it was thrush so I went untreated for some time, despite me suggesting we both had it Now after this experience, I know it should never hurt to breastfeed, but am still very annoyed that it ended up in my having to switch to full time expressing before I was quite ready to do so. Anyway it's funny the little faces they pull when you put meds in their mouth - my DS would blow big raspberries at me (with just his lips, not tongue) because he didn't like it. Anyway after a few weeks of it he stopped trying to spit it at me, no doubt because they make it sweet and he changed his mind and thought it was yummy! I'm sure he'll be into the chocolate buttons as soon as he's able Also if you ever want a super hit of probiotics, the tablets have much more in them than yoghurt (the one I took had 25 billion good bacteria per capsule, it was this), but they are a bit ££. They're usually kept in the fridge section at the chemist.

Ok, so y'all have guilt tripped me into changing my FB profile pic I promise this one is a more realistic interpretation of normality... and the glamour shot of course was from my work, taken by a colleague. And looking like that involves 1/2hr in a chair with a professional makeup/hair artist - it's very heavy theatre makeup which takes an age to practically peel off, and fake lashes etc etc. But the fact that I turn up to the opera house most days wearing tracksuit pants and flip flops says a lot more about my priorities these days. In fact, I used to be quite the makeup queen and never went anywhere without putting on 'my face', but I'm quite proud of the fact that I haven't actually worn makeup (except the stage stuff for work) since the baby was born! I am a reformed woman (ie: I've let myself go)

I'm loving looking at everyone's photos on FB!! I must say we do have the most beautiful bunch of babies - Dec/Nov/Jan is clearly the time when all the good lookers are born Sorry to those without accounts - although of course it is possible to be completely invisible to others except for those you friend request if wanted? So you could just set up a kind of 'fake' account and just friend request us, and set it up so it just notifies you by email when new pics have been added. My MIL has done this, as she's an ex school teacher and doesn't want any of her old pupils finding her, so she's completely invisible to any except those of us who are friends with her. And yes I am a real friends with my MIL on there as I'm lucky that she's fairly nice - although I try not to bristle when she starts talking about how 'when her boys were babies, she...' as I know she only means it in a helpful way. At least, this is what I tell myself

Now, must go and catch up what I've missed! Just wanted to get that all down before my epic got too much longer (and yep I do always cheat and take notes, or rather just copy the bits i want to respond to)

Bisou · 14/03/2009 13:44

Oh and for any of you FB-ers who would like a smile, there's a sweet video of baby J vocalising @ 6 weeks with his daddy speaking to him on my profile

kayzr · 14/03/2009 16:15

Awww Bisou That video is great. J is soooo cute!!

I've decided to go and see the Dr. I can not get through the day without having a nap. I don't think it is due to DS2 waking as I normally go to bed between half 10 and 11, DS2 wakes up between 5 and 6. I sleep all night so I get a good 6 hours a night. I was told I was anaemic at the end of my pregnancy and I was taking iron. But MW said to stop taking them once he was born as it would sort itself out.

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kayzr · 14/03/2009 16:29

Turnip I am very , I hope they have a good time!!

Don't talk to me about weaning!! All that mushing stuff. I am very tempted by BLW but know nothing about it at all. But thats about 3 months away now.

HV keeps banging on about how he should spend an hour a day in his bumbo, so he doesn't get a flat head, but he isn't too keen on it. I'm still really worried because DS1 fell out of it loads of times, so I sit right next to him.

traceface · 14/03/2009 17:11

kayz sometimes I think your HV is as nutty as your MIL! I'm quite sure that God designed babies well - if lying down gave them a problematic head shape then he would have made them able to sit up sooner! I've never been a big bumbo fan (although I do see their benefits), mainly because if babies were meant to be sitting up they would be able to do it. At the moment they are happy lying down on their backs and starting soon to enjoy tummy time on their fronts. Give it a few more months and they'll be developing the muscles to be able to sit up. With dd1 I was always in a rush to get to the next phase (rolling, weaning, sitting, crawling, walking...) but this time I just want to enjoy each phase as it is (really I just want her to stay tiny for ever! - my boobs disagree though .