Sept 08: We'll soon be weaning, and of a full nights sleep we're dreaming ......

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Hello ladies.

Pull up a chair, grab a biscuit and lets start talking about puree vs blw and sleep deprivation

Can you call NHS Direct?

pacita I would speak to the GP in person if I were you and ask him to examine Diego. It does annoy me when Dr's are so dismissive, first of all they make you feel a bit silly, then you realise you weren't being silly, so you start feeling annoyed about the whole thing.

Funnily enough I had a situation like this last week. M had impetigo, first of all he was prescribed an anti-biot cream, then oral anti-biot's. Neither of the prescriptions stated how long you should use them for, so I spoke to my GP and he explained that the cream should have been used until symptoms had disappeared and the oral medicine until it was finished up. Apparantly with children you should always use the course up until it's finished. Well no one had ever told me that. In fairness it does say as much on the generic stickers, but every prescription I have had always says something like 3 times a day for seven days. God I'm blethering, but I thought it was odd that the sticker wasn't more prescriptive about how long it should be used for, especially as it was for a baby.

thank you all for my birthday wishes, I had a lovely day, els had booked me in for an all body massage which is just what I needed. Els is still having dos but touch wood they are slowing down only 20 yesterday.
DH has taken time off work to help out. my family have been so supportive.
I just wish I knew what was wrong with him. but a positive I can take out of this is that the drs have sent him home without meds so they cant think that its that serious, however the consultants didn't see him have one, but we caught 1 on camera and showed them.
we knew he would be at risk of doing this kind of stuff because of his hideous birth. poor little boy :-(

barnpot glad you had a nice day to distract you from your worries

My baby boy is poorly, huge tonsils the doc says. Got antibiotics incase its gone to his chest. Temp keeps flaring up to 40, no smiles, really sleepy, struggling to feed (i get showered in milk as he tries to feed and breathe through his mouth at the same time)GP also gave me gaviscon to try for the sickyness, so funny how different docs have different opinions, the one i saw before wasnt keen to give it to me at all, this one suggested it!

Oh, and if i set that blummin cbeebies advert off one more time i'm going to scream

barnpot so sorry you're having a worrying time at the moment, really hope everything goes well and they figure out what is going on soon. x

DS2 still not well, he's not been sick (yet) but still has diarrhoea. Has had about 4 or 5 'episodes' since 2am this morning, some bigger than others. The last one was fluorescent yellow! Felt so sorry for the poor wee man at 2am as he had done an enormous one that was all up his back, goodness knows how long he'd been lying in it, his back is covered in a rash from it today. I'm not worried about him yet as he's taking is milk feeds as normal and doesn't seen dehydrated. Just not interested in food though.

Poor DS1 is going stir crazy though as we haven't been able to do our usual things.

Oh and those of us who think we're bad mummys, unless you'd do this you aren't (imho):
On Sunday I saw a car driving through a new housing estate with a man driving, a woman in the passenger seat and a toddler on the man's knee hoding the steering wheel!!!!! I couldn't believe what I was seeing

A is thriving and seems to be sleeping better than most babies here, so I'm not complaining. Except I've had nasty gastroenteritis - suffice it to say it is possible to throw up while bfing, and also running to the loo while bfing... and woke up the in-laws each time. 3 days later still feel ropey. Hope A doesn't get it as MrNC and sil say they're a bit off-colour.

Been giving A some tastes of food - all good so far except cooked carrot, but raw carrots are wonderful on gums. Trying to make purees only every time i cook anything it gets eaten first!

So... anyone else ttc yet?

barnpot - im so sorry to hear about your little one ....hope the docs will able to help me as much as they can.

i havent been on here for ages. ive been canx the last lot of jabs for dd2 before she reached 1 for the past 4 weeks or so as she caught conjuncitivis off dd1, now thats cleared - took a week and a half..now she got a cold and a cough, theres nothing on her chest and shes cheerful but i think i will have to canx the jabs again which is on Thurs.... (My HV is meithering me!! !!!)

oh and dd2 is learning to say her words now (she will be 6 months on 21st) as its "Nen nen nen" - i wonder if it means no! and also doing a shaking head game with me and everyone. its cute

oh no more poorly babies

pacita hope you get some answers from the doc

plusone hope your baby gets well soon too, how do you take his temperature? we don't have an ear themometer, but I do have a digital one. I stuck it under his armpit last time I thought he might have a temp. But no idea what a high temp for under the arms is.

biglips get well wishes for your little one

nc and a bunch of flowers for you too. no ttc'ing here (maybe a the odd practice though, which will hopefully become a bit more regular once A moves into his own room).

A is sitting up really well and trying to pull himself up into a sitting position by grabbing onto his trousers. Doesn't work of course. Still no rolling. Can babies skip rolling? He can fall forwards from sitting up into supporting himself up on his arms lying on his tummy. Does that constitute some sort of roll? I'm kidding myself here arent' I...

No ttcing, but I was when I got to this stage with no.1.

Soory about the poorly los.

BS had her 3 month jabs today

nc

lots of snow here

Barnpot, Plusone and Pacita sorry to hear about your poorly little boys Hope they all get better real soon.

NC not even contemplating ttc until at least the end of the year . Hope you feel right again soon; gastroenteritis is horrid!

DD has had a horrific cold for the last few days but it seems to be going now, thank God, she was out snoring DP with ease and that's saying something!

Notcitrus - I had a scare a couple of weeks ago and I can say categorically that I will NOT be ttc any time soon. Up until then I was feeling quite broody, until I thought I might actually be pregnant then I seriously freaked out, a lot!!

Digitalgirl - I believe babies can skip all sorts of milestones, some certainly don't crawl, they just get up and walk.

DD is sooo nearly crawling, she's up on all fours but when she brings her knee up under her she pitches straight onto her face! She will be 6 months on Sun, still in my room with not obvious end in sight as I keep on caving, I've been about to put her in her own room since Xmas! I'll be starting BLW on Sun, I want to start on Monday really but DP won't be here to see her first efforts so thought he should get the opportunity to see her make a mess of our house!

HANG ON!!!!!

did anyone say that they were trying to concieve?????

So sorry to hear about poorly babies (and poorly mums, Notcitrus. Gastroenteritis is horrid), and thanks for the suggestions re: crap GP.

I ended up calling my aunt the doctor (she is a pathologist, so her patients tend to be in bits, under a microscope, but still). She told me how to apply the ointment (canesten with hydrocortisone - round the opening of the willy, not the shaft, sorry if TMI but this was by no means obvious). Today the swelling has gone down, and there is no green discharge - which is, as you can imagine, a huge relief. I thought those things only happened in the exorcist.

At any rate, said GP will grant me an audience tomorrow. If I'm lucky.

Diego is in really good spirits though, chattering and playing on the floor. Digi, he doesn't remotely roll either, or shows any inclination to want to do so.

He will be 26 weeks in three weeks, and I still do not have a clue how I'm going to go about weaning. I confess that I gave him a slice of cucumber from my salad today (first ever bit of food he's sucked - hope this was not irresponsible!). At any rate, he was not as impressed by the cucumber as I was with the gamut of facial expressions he entertained me with. It was hilarious.

And finally, on Sunday we put him in his own room, as we had to extend the cot where he sleeps. I LOVE having my room back, being able to sleep before bed time and

OH MY GOD, HE JUST ROLLED AS I WAS TYPING THIS, on a blanket on the floor, back to front. This is a first. And is now crying because it was all unexpected. [Dummy]

As I was saying, he's in his own room and it's been great. He does not seem to particularly miss being with us. Last night, however, was rubbish. Bed at 7:35, feed at 10:45, settle at 1:30, feed at 2:20, settle at 4:30 and 5:30, up at 6:30. This morning I wanted someone to come and shoot me. Strangely, you get up, start the day and realise that the zombie state is now normality and get on with things. I do want it to end though, and am considering buying some sort of sleeping method from this Dana Obleman woman which I found online. Does anybody know it? It's probably one more of those stating-the-obvious, patronising methods designed to make you feel inadequate while you part with our money, but that's how tired I am.

Sorry about the long and rambling post. If you're still reading you've probably correctly concluding that it is a fair reflection of my mental state...

Sleep vibes to all.

TTC - no way José!

Sorry haven't had time to catch up been extra busy. just a quick qn for you BLW gurus - put some steamed broccoli and carrot in front of C this week and when she does manage to pick it up (not often) she sniffs it and drops it on floor. DP and MIL say try purees. My instinct is she's not ready yet and I really want to go down the BLW approach, she's 6 months next week.
Before i worry too much, can someone reassure me she will want to taste food eventually and eat it?! Thanks.

Additional - the temptation to spoon feed her all the lovely things that await her in the land of food is strong but I'm resisting. Feel cruel though - just need a bit of confidence that I am doing right thing.

imo You're doing exactly the right thing, and even though she isn't actually eating it yet, she is still learning about textures, colours and smells and familiarising herself. When she is ready she'll start exploring it with her mouth, and then start gnawing a bit and then swallow a little etc etc.

So, - I'm attempting to cook of late. What on earth is lemon zest? And what size is a 2lb loaf tin? And what is the difference between beating and stiring?

Many thanks in advance.

Thanks all for the good wishes, hope poorly babies get well soon.

biglips er, yeah... wanted to as soon as A was born, but MrNC reasonably wanted to wait. And we double-checked I'd be entitled to more mat leave.
Chance would be a fine thing though, took around 7 years for A to show up!

imo - A only got interested in food this week and he's 6 months on Sat. Been putting bits in his hands or on my finger for him to slurp - I'm not doing pure blw as his coordination is slower than his desire to eat new stuff and I think he'll enjoy yoghurt and stuff way before he could eat them.

snowlight lemon zest is the yellow outer bit of peel with all the oil drops in. Peel very finely if you don't have a zester (thingy to scrape with). 2lb is a typical large loaf tin, aroumd 9x5x3 inches. Beating = violent stirring to make a homogeneous texture, stirring = just get it all moist and not very lumpy.
You can tell that I was raised to cook from an early age and the first big word I learnt was 'homogeneous'!

Not ttc here either way too tired to contemplate anything that could lead to baby making.

Have strated giving robyn little tastes of foods, i.e. stick of carrot, chicken, broccoli and she quite likes chomping on it but still a couple of weeks before she hits 6 months. On the downside she saw me open up a packet of choc digestives and got way too excited. I think this is the start of an enforced diet or she will be chomping cakes all day long.

She is not rolling as much now, more breakdancing around in a circle and she hates being on her front, she can only last a few minutes at most before she flops on her face and cries.

Sorry to hear about all the sick babies i hope they all get better soon.

Lots of rolling from fraser to and he is starting to crawl army style he can also sit unaided for about 10mins.

Weaning is going well to well infact, he prefers food to milk i was hoping to bf untill around the age of two but i dont think that will happen, he is down to 3 or 4 feeds a day now, he will only feed for a few mins, im worried i will loose my supply.

No TTCing here either, but I'm pleased to report that my stitches/scar tissue situation is finally improving, so might be able to actually contemplate getting some practise in. Hoping to TTC by the end of the year, depending on job/T's sleeping/scar tissue recovery/DP not getting cold feet at the thought of more sleepless nights.

Had a flaming row with my mum today about BLW. I'm not religious about it by any means, but I do feel that I don#t want to force any puree/porridge etc into T until he's choosing to swallow the odd bit by himself. She said I was being hugely cruel not giving T purees and that it was unfair to expect him to feed himself and... you get the drift. I just kept asking her to respect the choice I had made, and she kept coming back with 'it was good enough for you' etc etc. It really upset me and it's made me really question whether I am being unreasonable to T - would we have evolved to feed ourselves or be fed? That's the question I'm now asking myself with respect to letting T feeed himself in his own time.

As far as I'm concerned he's doing brilliantly - lots of sucking on carrot sticks, cucumber, rice cakes etc, and sucking the yoghurt/fruit mush (boiled some prunes and water up in an effort to improve the gut situation) off of rice cakes.
A fair bit of gagging if a bit of rice cake/fruit breaks off unexpectedly, but nothing too alarming yet.

Anyone got any words of reassurance?

We're not ttc yet, but by the time dd was this age we were! Dh is mad for it. His solution to our names dilemma is to have another boy and use the middle name I love as the first name for that boy. So he says lets get cracking. If it wasn't for the 40 weeks of puking/spd/restless legs/being a rubbish mum to my toddler(s) I'd sign up in a shot. I would love to have my kids really close together in age, but I don't think my body agrees!
hopefully you're doing great! And I'm saying that as someone who doesn't do BLW, but I can see why you would, I've seen it work, and you need to have the courage of your convictions as a mother. You know your baby and you're doing great!
I can't wait til ds can sit up (rolling? CRAWLING lolly??!) as I really want him to start with finger foods alongside the purees, but he screams in the high chair or bumbo. Ah well.
lolly I've cut back ds's food a bit as he was eating so much I was worried about milk too. He has 4 milk feeds a day, with a feed before his solids at breakfast and lunch, one after his nap, and one at bedtime. I've had to cut back on the amount of lunch though so that he'll still take a mid-afternoon milk feed.
By the way, do I have to wait until exactly six months before introducing bread? What about lentils? I'll hold off on chicken and fish for a bit.
snowlight if you've got one of those tall square metal cheese graters then the side with the bits that take your knuckles off in the washing up is for zesting the skin of a lemon