December 08 Supermums: We are all doing fine and our LOs love us!!

[kayzr]

Hello.

Trace I went with your idea!!

arti great news about DD's breakthrough.

My DS is on one today refusing to sleep, he's had about 30 mins since 10am, and is getting really cranky. I went swimming this morning and left him with MIL, asking her to put him down for a sleep at 11am. Well I got home and he was screaming the place down, and hadn't had a sleep. I'm going for a drive in a bit in the hope it sends him off!

I too am off out on Saturday as its DH's 40th. He was wanting both DC's to sleep over at my mums. But a) I'll never get that much milk expressed between now and Saturday and b) I refuse to let anyone else snuggle my DS for that long just yet

He'll have to make do with a few hours out of the house instead as mum as kindly offered to come and sit at our house. Either way I am looking forward to getting out of the house!

hello just lurking. we all seem to have the lurgy in the Veggie house although DS1 is not too bad and is slightly driving me crazy. why is it when we have the least energy and tolerance they want more attention. i can feel a postman pat/chuggington marathon coming on.

Poor ds2 is a bit out of wack too either with what i have or post imms. he has been having quite unsettled but frequent naps today. He has just gone down now an hour since his last sleep and it has been like that most of the day. he is quite perky when he first wakes but rapidly becomes shattered.

Sorry about the Mastitis Trace, the AB's should make the pain and crap feeling better within 24-48hours if it isnt significantly better soon though go back to the GP as it could be a blocked duct which can quickly turn into an abscess.

Hello,

DS2 had his jabs today. He didn't cry too much which was good. He is now 12lb 12oz, so he is putting on weight well. There is a new children's centre here now with a bloody BF group once a week() I just wish it had started about 8 weeks ago.

Could anyone that likes or knows anything about camping have a look here or any of you really and give me your honest opinions?

I hope everyone is well and all the mastitis and lurgy goes soon.

Glad to hear that DD is settling again Arti. I wish she could teach my DS the trick!

Sorry to hear you are all under the weather Veggie. I hope things improve soon.

My DS had his jabs today and is not happy. When they gave the second jab something went wrong and the vaccine squirted out over me and the nurse, so she then had to stick him again, poor little man. Not surprisingly that leg is now red and swollen.

B just got hi British passport today!! Really quick!! Sent it in on Wednesday and back to my door today!!

Kayz My parents are very big into camping - and would probably go for it in the Summer since they come on a plane and can't bring the gear with them - although with International people, would it be easy to get them to pay? Not sure on the Brits though - I know my SIL has all their own stuff...
Yuk Nolda sorry about your LO's bad jabs experience - glad I wasn't there - would have passed out cold!

Wow Kmp that was quick, bugger I didn't get ours done until last Saturday so if it comes this Saturday unless it's really early we won't be here as we are catching the 8am breakfast train. Oh well good to know it will be quick though as we have cheekily booked the Munich flights, and very excitingly DH has gotten the low down from the people he is working with overthere that there are snow fields 45 mins away by train so we are going to stay for the weekend as well and go snowboarding yay!! The flights are over £350 for the boys and I but I have found a B&b hotel with a triple room near the station and cable car and apparently child friendly for £180 for the 2 nights! Ski places are notoriously expensive so I'm happy with that price.

Wow Kmp that was quick, bugger I didn't get ours done until last Saturday so if it comes this Saturday unless it's really early we won't be here as we are catching the 8am breakfast train. Oh well good to know it will be quick though as we have cheekily booked the Munich flights, and very excitingly DH has gotten the low down from the people he is working with overthere that there are snow fields 45 mins away by train so we are going to stay for the weekend as well and go snowboarding yay!! The flights are over £350 for the boys and I but I have found a B&b hotel with a triple room near the station and cable car and apparently child friendly for £180 for the 2 nights! Ski places are notoriously expensive so I'm happy with that price.

Oops sorry about double post and Nolda not nice about the vaccine mess up.

yeah Veggie I paid extra for secure post and i'm not sure how secure it was - they put it through the door just an hour ago and didn't make me sign (which they said they would) and I sent the dog down the hall thinking it was the paper! Fortunately she brought it in one piece (very unusual)

oh actually it will be fine if they drop it through the letter box, but thats a bit dodgy i thought they always had to be signed for cos its a passport.

hi all.

thanks for the boob sympathy. hopefully the antibiotics will kick in quickly

Vegggie - sorry you're feeling poorly.
Daisy - hope you have fun on saturday
Nolda - poor you with the extra jab I always find it reassuring to think that they won't remember a thing about it.

well it's been an interesting evening here. dh and i had a tense early evening. he was looking very miserable and was snappy. once the dds were both in bed it turned into a mild row - we don't really do rows! - and then an emotional honesty session. he's quite low at the moment but doesn't think he's depressed, but i think he takes it out on me and the dds. anyway, without boring you with the ins and outs, we got stuff out in the open about how we're both feeling, parenting stuff etc, and I confessed how i'd been struggling with my relationship with dd1, and it struck me that i share things with you guys, which is fantastically supportive, but that I've been withholding things from dh, as I don't want him to worry that i'll get bad pnd like last time. I've opened up to him now and feel much better (and completely drained and tear-stained!). Anyway one of the outcomes of our 'chat' is that I'm going to restrict my MN times...he thinks it's great that we support each other and cheer each other up with crap jokes (!) but i do spend a lot of time in an evening on MN, when I think it would be better for me to dedicate the time fully to dh. So I will still be around in the day time - what else can you do when BFing? - but shall be keeping the computer off in the evenings!

bye for now xxx

Hi everyone, I?m really interested to read all about the settling and everyone?s different methods ? and well done to Arti on todays achievement! DD generally settles very well at night time (when she doesn?t think sleep is for wimps anyway, but luckily she?s got better since I told you all about it, must be embarrassed about her behaviour maybe?) but I really struggle to settle her during the day ? either end up pram pushing or walking round with her in my arms. I?d love to get better at daytime naps. Do those of you with babies settling well in the day, take your babies to the bedroom for daytime naps? I currently just put DD in her pram, but maybe I should be taking her away from the daytime action?

SL I was terrified about my first supermarket experience with DD and insisted DH came with us. It actually went ok (DH was worse than DD cause he kept adding stuff to the trolley), but I still haven?t been back, although I?m lucky cause our local town has a great range of small grocers, butchers, bakers etc so I don?t need to deal with the trolley too often anyway. For those who mentioned the uncomfy seats in the trolley ? someone suggested I lie DD on a blanket in it, and she seemed happy enough on that ? the seats look so hard and cold on the poor littl'uns back.

Trace I hope your mastitis clears up quickly and the AB?s do the trick. Also, its good to hear you?ve had a proper good chat with your DH. Reading your post makes me realise how much I share with you guys and not DH, so I must make more of an effort to talk to him about the parenting too ? thanks for opening my eyes to that one.

OK, think DD is asleep now (no noises coming down the monitor anyway) so I will go and join her in the land of nod, night night everyone. x

DH and noticed a lady at sainsbury the other day who had put her car seat onto a little tray thing that was kind of abovevthe trolley and it had a strap to hold it on.

Will miss you in the evening Trace but glad you and DH have had that chat. It's always nice to reconnect even I'd it takes an aurgument to do it.

But I'll still be here most nights. DH is obviously in London next week with us going along but then he is in West Morling (wherever that is) then we all go to Munich and then he is away again somewhere else after that. So far I think he is going to be away during the week for several weeks to come. At least I have my boys to keep me company and Leo the cat. I actually feel sorry for DH even though he gets a bed to himself all night, it's not much fun staying in hotels all the time and he loves fresh veggies and home cooked food but he has to exist on takeaways and now he is on a gluten free diet as he has just found out he is intolerant. So being a wheat free vegetarian is not an easy thing to feed on takeaways. Oh well he's back tomorrow evening so will do him some nice food until we leave on Saturday.

Morning,

I can't believe I forgot to tell you that I won £30 on a scratchcard yesterday!! I might see if my luck will stretch to the lottery Saturday night!!

Morning,
We may have a mumsnet crush on the cards!!! jj and I went to the cinema yesterday and DS was rather taken with jj's DD! Cue lots of curious looking over and funny noises. Obviously when he was not stuffing his face that is. Funny as he has met other babies before and shown absolutely no interest!
Had a bit of a meltdown at him last night though. He's been pretty good in the evening recently so I was looking forward to getting an early night as I got quite a bad night before and kind of have cumulative sleep deprivation. He went to sleep at 8 and then just as we were coming to bed at 9:30 he woke up, and proceeded to feed and cry until midnight! I was really frustrated and I confess not that nice to him.
But in the end he slept pretty well overnight so he is back in my good books.
Feeling bad for being so down on him last night, poor little thing, but it was such bad timing.
trace that sounds like a good idea, hope we still see you lots in the day though
Kayz I like your tent idea. I think you would have to do the sums and see if you could make it add up. It depends how many times you think you could let them out before they were too tatty.
I guess you could go two ways, as well as offering (cheapish) tent equipment for hire for people who don't have equipment, you could maybe get an array of expensive tents, and experienced campers/hikers could hire them out to see what they are like? As I know lots of people who have spent quite a lot of money on expensive tents, and there are things about them that they couldn't really have known in advance that really annoy them. As tents really can be quite pricey and it's hard to know how usable they are in advance.
I think it is a really good idea, especially if you could deliver the stuff to a campsite for people, then you could get people who arrive by train who didn't really want to carry a load of camping stuff, even if they had room for it.

lol at baby crush. how cute. did jj's dd encourage him?

i will not go on about this today but will just say i am . after two great self-settling naps yesterday dd2 refused to self-settle for bed at 7pm and got v upset so i fed her to sleep and the same has happened for this morning's nap. oh well.

Kayz brilliant news will you be good and put the money in the bank or will you treat yourself. You could get some clothes for ds2, the baby Arsenal kit is less than £30!!

Arti sorry about the non self settling thing, I know you first born was similar to mine in the bottle refusal thing and he also wasn't much for self settling. Ds2 is not too bad but he uses a dummy where ds1 didn't want anything but boob in his mouth. Also ds1 was quite an angel baby as far as sleep went up until he was 4 months then he became a bit of a nightmare, so I take every good night as it comes cos I know it can all change. But as you know it eventually all sorts itself out (says she who slept with 2 boys in her bed last night and neither was her DH).

Morning lovely ladies. The birds are tweeting here and the snow is finally beginning to melt. It's been treacherous here, the roads are still so icy. I was in London again yesterday and the snow went days and days ago.

Self-settling - bit late on this, but I don't need to jiggle DD or anything or cuddle her to sleep or play her noise, BUT eight out of ten times she won't settle herself without her dummy. It is more or less essential. She loves it. Some experts will probably tell me this is wrong. But I am far too pig headed to care as I seem to have a happy baby. Mind you, I think that is merely her personality or a jolly great stroke of luck, and nothing to do with what DP and I do. And actually she has suddenly, this week, started creating blue murder if her food doesn't appear within three seconds of her deciding it's food time. It's like living with Michael Winner. Oh, and ZJ, I do find DD is faster to go to sleep if she is in the bedroom in her moses basket, away from stimulation.

Sorry we'll be seeing a bit less of you, Trace, but it sounds like a good reason. I think DP still views MN with slight suspicion but he is a lot better than he used to be.

Kayz, tents thing sounds like it could be good. Will post on your thread with my more detailed thoughts.

I have the next four or five days in Oxfordshire and much as I love London and my mates, I really need to do stuff here. I have been off for five months and have made very very poor progress on both the book and the script I am working on, which are both embarrassingly, horrendously overdue. Oh, and a newspaper piece about a cricket tour I went on last APRIL. The flat is a mess and I never seem to get on top of it, and it's only little. I have a pile of Sunday papers which I can't bear to throw away unread, and a bunch of emails and letters to write. And then there's my new fitness regime! DP has been off a lot recently and it is virtually impossible to get anything done with him around, lovely as he is, as he also has poor discipline and loafs around surfing the net or watching Dave all day (though he is rubbish at tidying he is good at putting on washing, or making up bottles, and preparing food for us).

Anyone have plans for St Valentine's Day? To avoid disappointment I always have to be clear about what I want to do so we are going out for lunch with DD in tow, and then we are hoping to see a late afternoon showing of Revolutionary Road if it's still on, and DD will go to a babysitter for a couple of hours.

I watched Wall-E last night. I thought it was a bit disappointing.

I fancy booking a weekend break - who was talking about this, was it Nolda? I was thinking about booking a trip to Bilbao (DP thinks taking a baby away for a weekend abroad is too much hassle and I feel I want to prove him wrong) but it is coming out quite expensive and also I need to do the passport thing. I wonder whether the money night be better spent on a health farm type weekend - I could do with getting the weightloss off to a bit of a flying start. And so could DP - he has as much weight to lose as I do.

I treated myself and DS1 with the money. I got a couple of jigsaw puzzles and DS1 a Thomas set of jigsaws.

Morning all,

I've just got back from my daily swim and sauna. It's bliss just having that hour and a half to myself. DH has gone back to bed now as he is tired after looking after the DC I really wonder how he thinks I cope all day...they're not that bad!

DS had a great night last night. He pretty much munched from about 6.30-8.30 (DH had to give 5oz of EBM and he still wasn't full!!) Finally fell asleep just before 9 (arti DS NEVER self-settles at night don't worry about it I've given up) and woke at 5.30am for a feed He is asleep again now...

trace great that you and your DH have had a chat and cleared the air.

kayz I think your tent-hire idea is great. Especially if you want to camp but don't want the hassle of all the stuff taht goes with it.

nolda Poor DS with his jabs, hope his leg is feeling better today

That would be 5oz on top of a 2 hour feed - that reads like I'm putting DS on a diet!!!!

flippin 'eck it's snowing again! when will i ever be able to wear anything but jumpers again?!!! I feel really cruel dragging P out in it twice a day for the school run.

finally got a smiley picture - not a full smile but a definite happy face - will try to post it on my profile now

daisy - well done - another supersleep in your household!

Ladyt - hope you get chance to work through your to do list...and put your feet up too after all your gallivanting!

Can I just tell you all that DP knocked a pheasant over yesterday (they are all over the place here and have zero road sense) - so it is now in the HALL as he plans to put it in the pot. I've been a veggie for 25 years and, er, the feathery corpse by the brollies is grossing me out somewhat. I suppose it's better to make use of it than just let it rot by the side of the road, but it just makes me feel a bit ill. I hope he never knocks over a deer

LadyT That is horrible. I'm not a veggie, I did try once but when my mum was making bacon sandwiches I just couldn't resist them. My mums dp once got a deer from a friend and he had to skin it and everything. My bedroom at their house used to be through the kitchen. It was horrible.

Trace It is really snowing here too!! I love it!!!!!

I don't actually want to get the door for the delivery of keep fit stuff I am expecting this afternoon, as it means I have to walk past the horrible thing. It's the eyes, beak and feet that really get to me - I only really like birds from afar anyway, and dead ones are frankly far beyond the pale.