December 08 Supermums: We are all doing fine and our LOs love us!!

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Hello.

Trace I went with your idea!!

And belated happy birthday to *ZJ too!

Hello all,

Sorry for not posting properly, DH is pestering for the laptop, but can I just ask a quick question? Confused first time mum alert

DD has her jabs on Wednesday morning, do I need to give her calpol or something similar before we go, or do you administer it if they seem out of sorts afterwards?

Hey.
Jolly - i gave P 2.5mls (ie 60mg) of paracetomol before her jabs and then another dose 6 hours later. She pulled a hilarious "that's not milk" face! I wouldn't have given her the second dose if she hadn't been so miserable (screaming!). When dd1 had her jabs she was absolutely fine - you wouldn't have known she'd had them, so I think it just affects them differently.

I think I might have a boob problem brewing My left boob feels sore in one place and it's red on the skin and a bit hot. I know P hasn't fed much for 24 hours so I hope it's not blocked. I expressed this morning but maybe need to again?

is anyone else finding their hair falling out by the handful? Or is that just me!!! I'm assuming it's hormones not stress

Oh and I did a baby-brain clanger...DH did a really nice Chinese meal this evening and I got the soy sauce out of the cupboard and drowned my rice...except it wasn't soy sauce it was Worcester sauce. Yak. not good with lemon chicken.

Oh my goodness I have just watched the reports on the fires back home, it is so horrible and so sad they were talking to a man whose 2 children has died, and another man who had lost all his friends and their young children it is just so sad, I can't stop crying, in fact sobbing. DH is panicking about friends of our that live near where it is happening bless him he rang just a little while ago to check if we should ring them, but they don't live close enough. Makes me feel so lucky to have my healthy boys it would be horrible to lose them, but in such a terribly horrific way....

pros and cons of having MIL to stay and help out:

pros:

• she looks after dd, takes her when she is grizzly and is happy to spend most of her time entertaining her while i get on with stuff which has needed doing for ages

cons:

• she bangs on about formula feeding and routine ALL THE TIME, as though i am an evil mother for not giving a bottle of formula every 4 hours
• she makes suggestions about my bfeeding choices/techniques, although she freely admits she hated bfeeding and stopped as soon as possible
• she takes dd off me without even asking, presupposing that as grandmother, she is allowed
• she follows me round if i've got dd with me, making me feel like i am going for a drive with my driving instructor watching me
• she NEVER ONCE ASKED ME HOW I WAS - i now realise i have ceased to exist for her outside of being the chief food supplier and nurturer of her granddaughter
• in spite of dh and i spending a lot of time deliberating about what name to give our dd, she insists on calling her TUPPENCE ROSEBUD, a nickname i find sickly sweet, contrived and faintly disgusting - she has never even asked us whether we mind her calling dd something different, she doesn't know tuppence is a euphemism for a lady's front bottom, and when asked whethe she doesn't like the name Rosie or Rosanna, says "but everyone calls her that"

has it been evil of me to feel a certain amount of schadenfreude every time MIL has taken dd and dd has screamed incessantly, as if to prove that MIL doesn't have the secret touch? if so, i am an evil witch.

also, if i hear the word tuppence used out of a monetary context again, i may well explode...

lovely evenings to all of you

have now put dd and MIL to bed, so am sitting with a glass of red wine and awaiting dh who is returning from cardiff.

VG - xposted. oh, how shallow i feel.

have also just heard a friend is in intensive care after nearly dying in a housefire in his flat.

MIL problems put into perspective.

Oh WG that is terrible.

Do you know your MIL post kind if cheered me up. WG she is so much of a nightmare it is laughable. I can't help thinking of the hypnobirthing course I did before ds1 was born and how we were supposed to imagine our 'vaginas opening up like a rosebud'. Sorry that name has now probably been made even worse.

hahahahahahahaha

VG, so my daughter's nickname is basically: vagina vagina???

anything to keep us laughing
x

Tuppence rosebud. May the Lord give is shelter...

Lal, glad the DH came up trumps in the end.

Turnip, Sharm is apparently very very developed and touristy but a good place to take kids as a result (the hostess on Saturday had taken her four year old and five year old there in December so I am merely parroting what she has said). It's warm and sunny, though, so who cares what it's like

WG, I could set about my MiL with a truncheon at the best of times, to the extent that I genuinely worry about her baleful influence on my DD when she is older. I have to hold myself in so much and restrict myself to smiles and bland politeness to such a pitch, that it's pretty clear she thinks I have no personality . I feel a bit guilty sometimes how harsh I am towards her (in my mind) as she does mean well, but she has said such yucky things to DP in the past, and I find I can't be charitable about it. One of these days I am going to b.l.o.w. and it will all be cataclysmic.

Jolly, I didn't give DD Calpol before or after and she was fine. I think it's a total lottery how they are going to be (as in all things!) so if you're worried, maybe a preventative dose would be a good thing.

Turnip DH has been to Sharm - I will ask him later and report tomorrow - he is doing something for work tomorrow at the mo.

B has def been upset tonight after his injections - just cries and cries even after feeding and it is real genuine crying - making me feel quite helpless... he got so tires and has now fallen asleep in his carseat on the tumble drier! I haven't given him any medicine though, so just hoping he is ok overnight

Veggie I know what you mean - it's sad watching the news about the fires - can't believe how fast they spread. makes you put things into perspective. Soo much rain up north and so little down south.

WG I must agree with V - It now makes me laugh about your MIL - or it might be how you write your posts - always a very interesting read - and I mean that in the best possible way!! But truly sorry she is such a nightmare!
Sorry to hear about your friend in the flat!

LT I am exhausted reading about your days!!!! But well done - I'm fine with the feeds and everything when I go out, but I get a bit panicked about nappy changes since he screams when his nappy is even remotely skid marked! I always hope i'm not on a train or something! However, having said that, I'm usually driving.

Just give a dose after, I am a mean mum comes from being a paed nurse I think, but I think you need to let there immune systems do some work on the immunizations antibodies before giving the paracetamol as it does suppress it a bit, but then as I said I'm a mean mum.

I went to Sharm twice one to the Hilton on a very cheap all inclucive deal and and second time on a liveaboard scuba trip. Both times I spent more time under the water than in the town and what I saw wasn't that impressive, above water I mean. As Lady says very touristy not much really to do with Egypt. But if your into scuba diving it's amazing. I've heard El Goona is quite nice not sure if it's north or south from Sharm. But either way if you want guaranteed sunshine Egypt will have it.

WG have you had your 6 week check yet, make sure you don't giggle if the doctor asked how's your Vagina?

Well my SIL has reared her annoying head again. We are arranging to meet her and her 2 boys and husband fir lunch while in London, so we can each meet each others new one and also see the respective ds1s. I had arranged to meet our nct friends and a couple of other friends on the Saturday and then SIL on Sunday for a late lunch. We are staying with friends on the sunday who are kindly going to put up with a 3.5 year old and a new baby so will potential have interrupted sleep so we didn't want to just run off on them on sunday. But SIL is worried that on Sunday afternoon that late that the restaurant will be busy and less child friendly, Its an old dim sum haunt of ours and the staff have always bent over backwards to look after us so I'm sure they will sort us out with a good table but no we have to change all our plans and see them on Saturday and the other lot on Sunday, when I emailed them to change the plans 2 of the couples can't make it on the Sunday. So now I'm even more cross with her.

Kmp ds2 hates being in a wet or pooey nappy too. It never bothered ds1 I wondered if it was because it us really cold this winter and so the wet nappy gets cold quicky or if he just has a sensitive bott. Your using non disposables aren't you.

I finally did the check and send on saturday, I should have done it earlier. I have found a decent price on flights. Hope they don't go up between now and getting the passport. Dh rang tonight and said there are snow fields about an hour from Munich so we are going to stay for the weekend and go snowboarding! I'm so excited I haven't been boarding for years and it will be great fun for ds1. We will have to hit the slopes separately but it will be great fun!

I'm a meany mummy like Veggie. When DD had her 1st immunisations she was fine afterwards, just a bit more sleepy than usual, so I don't intend to give DS calpol before his (tomorrow). But I'm very lighthanded with the drugs generally, to myself aswell as to my children. My sister (soon to be mother of 4) thinks I'm a little daft about this - and other things too no doubt .

Those with two, did you take DC#1 with you when you took baby to be immunised? I was going to but my mother suggested it might be frightening for DD. It's no big deal as my mother can look after her but it would be easier from a logistics point of view if DD came too.

Nolda if you are cool with injections it might be good for DD to see what is going on - so you can calmly explain - look the nurse is giving babe some medicine, it stings a bit etc etc etc etc so demystifies for her next set (preschool MMR booster?). I am like that about jabs and my two don't bat an eyelid. If you are in any way jittery about the babe being injected then prob not iyswim.

Veggie it is so so tragic what is going on in Oz at the moment. Must be so upsetting for expats like you and KMP. How can people do this stuff?? Its beyond belief.
And grrrr at yor sis in law. Mine is being similarly annoying about travel arrangements...

I normally give preventative calpol, but may not this time having been swayed by what you guys say. KMP hope B is much better. Poor pet.

Thanks for the info on Sharm. Yup heard it was touristy etc etc but my experience of hols with toddlers etc so far has been that you never leave the hotel and want pool, beach, kids club and some nice restaurants. So hoping can get that there. Can't wait though for kids to be older so we can have more like travelling of old. But my lot never want to travel about in cars etc in hot countries - grrr. We might bite the bullet and go whole hog and go Mark Warners...

thank you for all your vagina references - much appreciated.

VG - which dim sum haunt is this? am suddenly filled with the all consuming NEED TO EAT DIM SUM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

wg you made me lol with your MIL tales. Particularly where you said she makes you feel like you are on a driving lesson! oh dear - that would drive me mental. One thing my MIL does is talk to DS in the EXACT SAME voice as she talks to her dog. This is kind of understandable as they are both dumb creatures but nonetheless it really annoys me!

turnip i have heard the same as others re sharm. The diving is meant to be amazing though, and sure it will be good for a family holiday.

veggie terrible about the fires. Can't believe someone would start thrm on purpose - awful.

Sorry about annoying SiLs, Veggie and Turnip. Mine is really nice but unfortunately she lives in Bermuda. Sorry you've had to change your arrangements, Veggie - sounds like a real pain in the crack.

Well, Turnip and now Daisy on the fatties thread have set me off about holidays. Am now on a flight of fancy about having one of those holidays where you eat carrot juice and nasty brutes chase you up mountains shouting at you. I am so desperate to get some of this weight off and it might give me a good start...Unfortunately DP would have to take a week off and that's not really possible - or else DD would have to stay at my MiL's and I can't really cope with the thought of that...

me post! DP been made redundant just devastated. There really are no jobs going in his field so no idea what we will do.

Off to catch up on the thread back later.

Jam, I am really really sorry. That totally sucks

So sorry to hear about your DP's job Jam . What a nightmare. Had he been in his job long?

Hi all, just a flying visit as i must take advantage of dd2 being asleep to do some tidying.

Jam - so sorry about your DP.

LadyT - keep your chin up. Stubborn weight is sooo annoying and with the amount you rush around you deserve to be burning off any calorie in the surrounding vicinity, letv alone just on your thighs!

Turhip - I have been to Sharm twice and a resort 90 mins north called Dahab. I love SCUBA so, like Veggie, I was underwater most of the time. The problem with Sharm, beyond being built up, is that there is no beach to speak of - although lots of lovely huge pools etc. I would therefore recommend the Hilton Dahab. It was a lovely sandy beach and a big pool (Dahab itself lacks a decent beach but the Hilton is on a bay just outside. The beach is very calm and protected, It has a shallow coral reef that older kids can snorkel round. The hotel itself is fine and a 5 min taxi into Dahab takes you to a slightly less touristy place than Sharm (although it is fast moving from its backpacker routes to a more Sharm style). It is also closer to day trips such as Mount Sinai and painted canyons in the desert (if you could do that with kids). It may be that Sharm is better with tiny kids but I would at least look at Dahab .

That sounds like the Hilton we stayed at, maybe it as Dahab we stayed at then, shows how much notice I took of above water. I did think a few years later when we went on the Liveaboard from Sharm that it didn't look much like I remembered. If it is the one it is very nice.

Sorry to hear about dp's job jam - does he have a decent pay off to keep you going for a while?